LIVE! Read Trial Day 30: Is This Thing Over?
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
0:48 Intro
02:36 Dr. Frank Sheridan - Forensic Pathologist - Testimony Summary
04:15 Dr. Sheridan - Direct Examination
12:25 Q&A
14:19 Dr. Sheridan - Direct Examination
20:00 Q&A
23:36 Dr. Sheridan - Cross Examination
31:00 Q&A
33:57 Dr Daniel Wolfe - Accident Reconstructionist - Testimony Summary
34:20 Dr. Wolfe - Direct Examination
56:31 Q&A
1:01:00 Dr. Wolfe - Direct Examination
1:11:27 Q&A
1:15:40 Dr. Wolfe - Cross Examination
1:24:20 Q&A
1:27:45 Dr Andrew Rentschler - Testimony Summary
1:28:08 Dr Rentschler - Direct Examination
1:45:06 Q&A
1:51:51 Dr Rentschler - Cross Examination
1:59:35 Q&A
2:04:26 Dr Rentschler - Cross Examination
2:12:00 Q&A
2:18:58 Conclusion
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‘The worst day of the trial for the commonwealth’ makes me so happy. It should NEVER have gone to trial.
The sickest part is the CW was told this and knows this and went forward.
Not only Not Guilty but INNOCENT as well! And can they/will they throw the DUI at her? How do they know if Karen didn't drink heavily once at John's house?
The CW waived the DUI minor offense for the three murder charges. So they can’t get her for a DUI. This was done during the arguing of the directions to the jury.
YES
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Not one time did the reconstruction expert FBI guy use the word "STUFF". Incredible!
Top comment!
It was NOT ordered by FBI..show me positive proof. This was a third party Karen lover that paid for this and handed it to the defense. The fact they didn’t even examine the SUV baffles me. You jump on Paul but a glass cannon? Give me a break. MVA and how it happened with always be opinion based.
@@PEBBLEZ21 last tuesday this guy said in front of all the attorney's and the judge that the FBI hired him.... try actually watching the case
@@momofsix8365 I can tell you this…I’ve watched this trial WAY more than you..I’ve watched and rewatched..if he said that then why didn’t he say it today in court? Because this is a states case so why would the FBI do any investigation. Federal investigation is different. Brainwashed much?
@@momofsix8365I think Jen is in the comments. Lol. The experts did testify that the fbi hired them.
Initially, I thought Karen Read was guilty. Initially, I thought she was a scorned woman…NOTICE, I SAID INITIALLY. Now, I feel like the police have something to hide. Here they are policemen and their families are crying they are the victims. I feel for Karen Read. I am glad she has family. I might recommend she move away from these people. I don’t think she is at fault, but these families that have testified against her are dangerous. They don’t care about what happened to John. They are only crying about themselves.
I came into this case feeling the same way you did and similarly I was swayed pretty early. I wonder what JO’s family is thinking now?
@BaoVwm4Christ They're wondering whether she has umbrella liability and, if so, how much? The civil standard is just preponderance of the evidence. Cha ching!
@@DruDuksuch a gross comment🤮🤮🤮
@alison9642 I agree she needs to go far away from Mass. Maybe AJ or Yanetti will hire her for something, she is certainly smart enough! 🤷🏻♀️
So glad you followed the trial, instead of being like so many others, who initially thought guilty and just carried on with that mindset and run to the internet, speaking without knowledge. 🎉🎉
Lally only seemed to suddenly understand the science with the defense witnesses. Yet with his own, he was able to pretend like science isn't a thing. Total failure.
Yeah it’s like he only ate his wheaties for cross.
It was making me so irritated that he CLEARLY wasn’t listening to understand, he was listening to respond. The defense reconstructionists testimonies truly went in one ear and out the other because he knew from the beginning that his “gotcha” moment was going to be “if we had other information, it could change our opinion”, when it fact, none of it actually could have. He had zero interest in anything they had to say, which is concerning given the prosecution should be operating under the terms of being truth finders for justice.
@@kimberlykendall3835
Yes exactly, well said.
@@kimberlykendall3835It sounds like he whining…”but she admitted she did it! Didn’t you hear that she said she did it?”
@@sallycinnamon5370 right!! Like the whole point of the scientific evidence is to be able to view what happened objectively. That’s why it’s so believable and doesn’t really require an explanation!! lol
The last Dr/witnesses were truly experts . They spoke to the jury in a way that made actual SENSE.. they were educating as well as testifying. The NFL reference made SENSE … and stuff
He was good. But the FBI has a bunch of incompetent corrupt people, more so the higher you go. This guy did good though
And stuff 😂
And stuff lol
Still scratching my head....How did this case even get to trial?
Nobody know. 🤷♀️
And would this have cost tax payers a ton of money?
That needs to be reviewed. What a waste of tax dollars
Especially given that the prosecution got these reports too!!
They expected her to take a plea. That is why they overcharged her.
None of them expected her defense team and the Feds to get involved.
The MSP are not used to being questioned.
I would vote not guilty-the worst prosecution and investigation ever what an embarrassment!
100%
We had video of rittenhouse defending himself and he still got prosecuted
I am also Not Guilty.
Didn't watch any pretrial anything just the trial.
And this judge has the audacity to claim they haven't proven it to Boden Defense for jury instructions!
Those last 2 witnesses for sure…SLAYED! Lally could never expect to outsmart those guys!
They all never expected anyone to question the MSP.
They never expected the Feds to get involved.
This trail will be over very soon, but they have been exposed and it’s not over for “them”.
Totally agree!
I would definitely vote not guilty and I also think she's innocent. These highly educated accident reconsturctionsist do not see anthing indicating he was struck by a car. Innocent. Full stop.
There was no frost on the pieces of the tail light, being in the snow for that long IMO
Good point@@rachbethhuff4943
Totally agree
I agree!
The fact that the only person saying that she isn't is a trooper Paul that took a 3 week crash course on how to tell and can't explain basic physics concepts as a person that has to know how forces work since they have to reconstruct an accident where things fly around or fall. Plus, that same trooper kept saying "maybe" and "one of many possibilities" tells me even HE wasn't convinced of his own theory.
The state takes care of their own. The judge is an embarrassment.
She is so blatantly for the Commonwealth it is scary.
Must be a sad world if you don’t trust law enforcement. Next time you need help call Karen Read. Narcissistic, sociopath that has all you people brainwashed!
@@acemannwthat’s bull. She helped the defense in his questioning. You brainwashed people really make me laugh. The Karen read cult.
Whatever happened to justice? I do wonder how folks like this look themselves in the mirror, and sleep at night! Imagine trying to put a human being in prison after seeing what the evidence actually was?? Shame on all of them!
@@kristentrep5038That's why there's a Federal investigation going on. Basically, it's organized crime. RICO, which is Federal. From low-level criminal cops like Proctor, the Alberts, etc to the DA's Office and possibly including Judges. This case is only the tip of the iceberg.
I was a juror on a criminal trial where the prosecution failed to make the case. The defense could have not called a single witness and I still would have voted to acquit. And honestly, 5 years later I’m still kinda pissed that the prosecution made 14 of us spend a week listening to the sexual activities of a group of college students. It was a terrible case to bring to court and it was 1000% politically motivated. It really opened my eyes to how some people are horrible abused by the criminal “justice” system.
Only after today I am convinced that she did not hit him with the car whatsoever…..I have no idea what happened but I also am more convinced than not that his arm sustained injuries from the dog.
I think they got into a fight, he threw the glass at the vehicle when she left to go home. And then Jon and Colin got into a fight. Colin has a history of fighting.
@@flatminniI was thinking maybe he fell and hit his head while throwing the glass and Karen didn’t know he fell! Buuuuut, being in the house is the only way to explain the other injuries and the McAlberts actions afterward.
Chloe could've gotten out of the yard... attacked JO arm after he fell (or caused him to fall). Could explain why the dog was "rehomed" and some of the shadiness exhibited by some people in the house. I don't even think JO even went into the house.
@@billyb5847well- what if he threw the glass, lost his balance, hit his head, started going towards the house with the head injury fell by the flag pole, and later they let the dog out to go pee and it started attacking the strange man on the lawn? Then they just called the dog back in and never knew anything?
The dog causing those injuries is further confirmed, for me, after hearing the complete nonsense lying the Alberts did….saying the dog was silently chillin in the room when McCabe burst in and all of that. Why would they do an over the top lie like that, if not to try to just downplay the dog’s existence.
Not guilty, 100% innocent. Not a chance her vehicle rendered those injuries which was confirmed today, finally...for all to hear.
Exactly! We’ve waited 2 months for this 2hr explanation
Taillight plastic in John's clothes..of course she hit him..duh
Watching the replay...absolutely NOT GUILTY across the board. This SUV did not hit JO. More convinced than ever. I just pray the jurors are not compromised in any way.
That is my concern also. Crooked town!
Not guilty the wrong people are on trial .
Karen Read is NOT Guilty on all counts - that’s my vote. 🙏
if she gets hit w drunk driving all of them should be n put on desk duty
@@kellypujue999 There is no separate DUI count-they all include her hitting him with the car!
not just not guilty, but innocent. big difference
Its the Albert's not coming outside and no investigation inside the house for me. And so much more
Anyone with a dead body on their lawn would be woken up and talked to. A warrant requested to check the house to rule out people in the house!
Same. The fact that they destroyed their phones. I mean...yeesh
Agreed . Proctor decided on his own Karen did this. So we spent 8 weeks focused on a tail light. John died in that house.
@@joannephillips4110anyone with a DEAD COP on their lawn would be detained in handcuffs. Warrant? Cops would have used intimidation to get consent.
"Its the Albert's not coming outside and no investigation inside the house for me,"
I still can't wrap my head around that. Are there any other cases where a dead body is found on a lawn and the police don't search the inside of the house?
I would vote Karen Read is INNOCENT not just NOT Guilty!
I am with you. Absolutely innocent.
yes!
I agree. Colin Albert, Brian Albert & Brian Higgins are John’s killers.
Same, something smells fishy with this case also.
I agree with you 🎉
Definitely not guilty! Hope she sues all involved that framed her!
Today is the first time I could understand why someone would want to push ahead for wrongful prosecution or however you go after these miscreants.
Now wonder how systemic the rot is. Whole case has been sadly illuminating in that regard.
I have been watching trials for years. I love seeing blatantly guilty defendants go to jail. This is one of the poorest cases I have ever seen for 2nd degree murder. The physical evidence and injuries on John do not match him being injured by the Lexus.
Right? Most of us true crime/trial followers are fans of justice and are usually supportive of prosecutions. That so many of us believe the defense in this case is telling, imo.
Dirty cops need prosecution!!!
@tararyzemcg. They do! The sad part, however, is unless someone flips, nobody will ever be charged with Mr. O’Keefe’s murder. It’s crazy
I don’t think she’ll be convicted but I believe she hit John and left him there.
His phone data and her car data along with the evidence at the scene did it for me.
@@Steve-qn8gn You believe she hit him despite the testimony of two highly educated independent witnesses? How odd
@@Steve-qn8gnI don't think we watched the same trial
@@HighlandBhoy yes I do and I explained why. It’s not difficult. The defense said he went into the house, his phone proved he didn’t. Her car backed up at 24mph right where his body was found. She called Kerry Roberts at 5am screaming John’s dead.
I don’t know about you but that is more that circumstantial evidence and the fact you would take an experts opinion over the hard evidence that can’t be disputed is pretty sad really.
I think we'll get the verdict tomorrow. Not guilty.
Hopefully.
I think 100% by Friday. There are not going to spend anymore weekends doing this. But tomorrow, I would want to chat with my fellow jurors!!
I thought that at first too but then I thought man they have A LOT to talk about lol even if they come to a not guilty, after not being able to talk about it this long, they're going to need to converse.
I think so too! The jury won’t take long, they’ve been at this circus for too long now!😂
Anyone with common sense , the body was nit hit by a car, u don’t need experts omg what a country we live in, it’s like try to prove that a cow jumped over the moon.
I bet these Arcca experts watched T Paul’s testimony and were laughing their asses off. 😂😂😂
Yeah I can see them making a meme about it and having it in their office
@@InLieuTube I’m pretty sure they were pissed they wasted all those years on a phd and solving problems while all this time you can just ask the crime scene.
Trooper Paul (expert witness) "you would not use this equation in a pedestrian collision. " Mr. Jackson "is the pedestrian out of the realm of physics and calculations. " Honesty makes me wonder how trooper Paul feels after watching these real expert witnesses.
Lally Arguing with 2 neutral 3rd party witnesses, made him look absolutely ridiculous and shady (in my non expert opinion).
Well, I'm an expert. Not an expert in determining if someone is ridiculous and shady, but the CW didn't let that stop them either, so I feel confident enough to say that, yes.. He is ridiculous and shady.
ALL the defense experts were AWESOME! ⚖️
And the best best part of this is ......
IT WAS FREE .. ZIP , ZERO , NADA 0000000
So grateful for Josh Levy and his incredible investigators.
It’s almost over for KR and the jurors. It had to be torture for days on end. Not Guilty and hopefully the FBI investigate the obvious corruption and lawlessness of the Massachusetts State Police. Proctor and Paul have sent innocent people to prison because they’re lazy and corrupt
Proctor should be back to writing speeding tickets if he isn't fired from Mass. Police
You feel sorry for Karen? What about the kids who lost both parents and now John? She hit him! It’s so obvious! I just hope the jury is smarter than you and most of the other people commenting on this video! It’s pathetic..
I absolutely agree with this comment. It's sad that normal everyday people can be railroaded like this.
@@ibemiked323this is why people like you aren't in the jury. I have watched from day one not knowing anything just happen to come across it. I absolutely don't share your opinion, yes I feel bad for John and the children, but that doesn't mean she is guilty
@@missybrewer423 you’re right it’s all the evidence that proves she’s guilty! I’ve been in juries, I’m not biased one way or another, I only follow the facts in evidence!
The feds actually saved her ass.
Paul was that bad I think the Commonwealth lost the jury for good. I can’t wait for interviews after this verdict.
@Austins126 yeah the prosecution changed my mind to not guilty before the FBI experts, i mean I never thought murder 2 but figured manslaughter until I watched the trial.
true. Corrupt Canton LE didn´t see that coming
The liters of blood are covered by cement in the Alberts last home
should go drill it up
May be some on the bulkhead door they didn’t replace before they moved.
It has been removed now.
You know they jackhammered that out & disposed of it. They had all of the materials like Luminol to make sure that blood is gone.
They filled in the pool with chloe and the bloody flooring. Probably higgins and Colin's bloody clothes and whatever John's head was hit by too.
If Karen or her dad would have taken a photo of the Lexus before it was taken away on the tow truck, we may not even be here. And no way I would have let anyone take my ride without a warrant.
Or if the police did a proper investigation and took a picture before it was taken from her.
The fact that they didn't take a pic speaks to me. They had no idea this would even be a possibility... Can't cya when it's outside the realm of possibility to you
To piggy back. If the states whole case rests on this they should have snapped a picture.
Did the tow guy take any, to verify nothing got damaged during transit? I would have thought at least crime scene photos of the car before the transport to the Sally Port to make sure nothing fell out during the towing of the car..... serious lacking in evidence photos.
Usually, the tow guys take pictures before, and after towing something to prove they did nothing during transport
It’s about time honest witnesses were on the stand
I went into this trial believing she was guilty now coming out I believe she is not guilty!
I initially believed it was plausible KR hit JO and that potentially the dog found him in the yard and bit and/or scratched at JO's arm... Now, after these experts, I don't think KR hit him at all. I have no clue what happened, but I hope the jury votes not guilty on all charges
I dunno about that, even the defense experts said it was possible that he was hit. Strange how two people can hear the same thing and walk away with such disparate views.
@@Kensbev You are the only one, who thinks that… That’s NOT what they said, you should listen to it again!
@@soude85 - Okay, then. 😄 Actually, you should listen again yourself.
The question is why the commonwealth didn’t ask an expert prior to bringing charges. This feels criminal.
Oh they did.
They just didn’t like the answer and went forward anyway.
When you are used to being in power you lose sight of what could happen.
Their “expert” was Tooper Paul
“You can’t deny science and physics”
My favourite quote of the day thanks to Dr Rentschler! For Lally and anyone else grasping at straws saying ‘yeah but the DNA, the fragments of taillight on his shirt, she said she hit him’, they clearly don’t want to get this simple point. The injuries and the damage to the taillight simply do not fit the theory that she hit him with the back of her vehicle.
For me at this pt, even if Karen did say ‘I hit him’ multiple times that day, it would be akin to a false confession due to stress and panic and worry after he didn’t come home to his niece and nephew, something that was very unlike him. And then everything else IMO was either planted (in the case of the taillight pieces and hair) or just general day to day interaction with the car beforehand (DNA on the taillight panel).
She is totally innocent! From day 1 the evidence shows a big time cover up!
LOVED the ARCCA guys. So intelligent and well spoken.
Me too! Those guys explained everything so well it was actually interesting to watch. They need a show because I want to hear them talk about some more science-y things
@@Liska78- They are the real life MythBusters in suits.😂
Not guilty vote for me. I also believe she is innocent.
On Day 28, Trooper Guacano the Prosecution second and last phone/Cellbrite expert said Karen's vehicle made it home and connected with JOK's home WiFi at 12:36 a.m. He repeated this at least 6 times. The Prosecution agrees this timestamp is correct. Then he also testified, without batting an eye, that Karen Read made her 3-point term, which the car data allegedly showed to be in front of 34 Fairview, at 12:45 a.m. But, she wasn't at 34 Fairview then...because her phone conncted with JOK's home WiFi at 12:36 p.m.
Guacano said the defendant's phone was a half mile from 34 Fairview at 12:21 a.m. when it registed walking 248 feet and going up/down 3 flights of stairs...so Guacano said KR's car w/ JOK as passenger was just driving up and down hills. But Ryan Nagel and his two passenger's saw Karen Read's SUV at 34 Fairview at 12:21 a.m.
The Prosecution's own data can't explain how KR could have hit JOK at 12:45 at 34 Fairview when she had already made it home to 1 Meadows Drive at 12:36.
If the Cellbrite data don't fit - you must acquit.
The key to solving the case is Jen McCabe's seven "accidental" butt-dials to John O'Keefe (and their seven associated hang-ups before going to voice-mail) between 12;18 and 12;50am.
"Guarino".
I love the grin that the guy gave while he was talking about the glass cannon they built! I also love how Lally kept trying to catch the accident reconstructionist in something, but only managed to accomplish screwing his case even more in the process.
He was adorable talking about his canon!! Loved those ARRCA guys!!!
Lally is just out here grasping at straws. I cannot believe anyone in their right mind would vote guilty at this point.
Right. "Did you know Karen said something? Does that change your opinion on the laws of physics?"
They removed a juror today, it’s starting the get a little crazy regarding deliberations, they’re getting desperate
The experts were clear and scientifically factual. This trial needed some facts!
My theory: he got in a physical fight at the Albert home, got beat NEARLY to death, the dog attacked him during the fight, the fight broke up, he left, was walking outside, either slipped or fell over from being brutally beat up, and died in the snow. I don’t think the people in the home actually thought he was dead when he left, but put two and two together when they found out he was dead. Got lucky that Karen read drove by the house, made those comments to Jen McCabe, and from there, they knew they could “pin it on the girl” because she was drunk and didn’t know if she hit him. Got their story straight, with the help of trooper slime ball-Proctor, made it so they wouldn’t be looked at twice when this all went down.
Yep. Would make more sense than everyone in the house keeping their mouth shut about a murder in the house and him being dragged outside and placed there. Fight in the basement, went or pushed out the basement door and fell where he was found. So no one inside actually knew he died and the handful of people in the basement could keep their mouth shut about a fight.
I think that could’ve happened why didn't anyone say it like you did here. Makes sense for sure
The thing is, though, that after his head got hit during that fight, that would have been it; he wouldn't have been able to walk. At that point, his brain would have begun to swell, and there was nothing that could have been done to save his life. The only thing his body could do at that point was to breathe, and eventually that stopped too. He had to have been carried outside. And the head injury wouldn't have been caused by a fall outside on the grass or the snow. It would have to have happened from hitting something as hard a the concrete floor or the weights.
@@My-22-Centshe died in that house. That head injury was too severe. Remember the cop across the street had a ring cam video that suddenly stopped working. One of FOUR times video has mysteriously disappeared. Along with the basement floor being replaced and the dog being rehomed.
I’m right there with you Peter. I started thinking it was over charged…now I think any charge towards KR is an over charge. Same with Lally! I’d have quit before I tried this case. A question that applies to several people involved in this- Where is your shame? Time to clean house in MA, IMO. The citizens deserve better.
She has to be found not guilty, there is a whole Frankentruck full of reasonable doubt blown all over the case with a leaf blower borrowed from a neighbor and stored in unsecured red solo cups.
I love the Frankentruck full of reasonable doubt commenr 😂. I also can't believe there has been so much other craziness in this case I kinda forgot about the solo cups!
@@shawneedimaio314 seeing the grocery bag full of red solo cups full of blood unsecured next to the unsecured vehicle is where I actually started believing that she was framed. When the lawyer stood up in open and claimed that, I was like “sure buddy… riiiiiiight” but then… red solo cups full of blood…
Deleted/missing video evidence, no chain of custody, barely any written reports, Higgins drunk in the PD at 01:30am, Colin Albert hiding his bloody knuckles, but dials and 9 deleted calls to John, “That Guy”, Chloe rehomed, phones rehomed in Army dumpsters…
I think frame up (even with “good” intentions) is no better than cover up. Even if we assume a rush to judgement, messing with evidence is still unethical and or criminal.
But it sure is a fast-track to becoming the Chief.
@stugrant01 that's seems it may be unfortunately true in some places.
The first witness is phenomenal! Wow 🤯
Not just not guilty but 1000% INNOCENT! I can't wait to follow what happens in Fed case! There has to be accountability! How many ppl are wrongly convicted that couldn't afford the dream team KR had?
If he wasn’t hit, they must acquit. Not guilty!
Awesome comment!!
Fantastic 😂
Not guilty all day every day she’s been accused !! #FreeKaren
I knew she was innocent at butt dial and phone, destroying.
I'd Have to go Not Guilty only. They did not PROOVE that she did this. I've been on 5 jury's overs the years. I think it will come back fast.
I think a lot of people are confused by reasonable doubt & don't understand the burden of proof. They are ready to convict someone based on their personal "feeling" about the defendant. Like using her voicemails or her personality as their "proof". You have to have more proof than a few voicemails. 🤦
I like how you explained it in simpler terms that they can understand. If you don't think the car hit the victim's arm & caused those marks... then spun him 30ft, blah, blah, blah... Then you can't convict her. You would think that's common sense, but it's not. 😉
Always enjoy your knowledge & experience as an attorney. 👏👏
“This is good court.” 1000% agree Peter!
Yes, I vote not guilty. There was no evidence , at all, to prove Karen hit John.
100
There was plenty you just refuse to listen. You were a Karen lover before the trial.
@@PEBBLEZ21you are delusional! It’s ok Jen, you’ll be next! 😂
@@PEBBLEZ21? I dont even find her likeable in the slightest but I still don’t think the state proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. 🙅🏻♀️
I’ve seen less evidence in a no body circumstantial murder case. I hit him I hit him I hit him..what more do you need..she did it and backtracked. Shame on her.
Oh for Pete's sake! they murdered him in the house then tried to lie their way out. It was a fight. Butt dial, destroying phones etc.
All lied and corroborated.
Yes, that turtle guy messed their game because otherwise she would go to prison if not publicity, and not FBI. Being lully sucks in this case. He can't quit and letting it continue hurts him long term.
But why the seven "accidental" butt-dials by Jen McCabe to John O'Keefe right at the time in question?
@@stugrant01they were looking for John’s phone.
Agree . They got into a fight and John was accidentally killed. Everyone was drunk and went into self preservation mode. John died in the basement.
How did the phone get under him?@@karinaz8756
I came into this thinking she accidentally hit him, but after hearing both sides I can’t see how any juror can vote guilty here. If they do, it will be a sad day for the justice system.
Same here. Not only is there reasonable doubt, I don't think she was involved in it at all at this point.....
@@hollypgh84 agreed.
I love waking up in the morning with Peter here in Australia. It's so good to have a dose of education, commonsense and decency to start the day. The eye candy is a bonus 😍
Way to much reasonable doubt to put someone in jail for which is terrible for the victims family that is what we have learned by Peter
I knew nothing of this case. I've never read anything about it before or after. I have watched this case every day, faithfully from beginning to end. My honest opinion is, she is not guilty.
I love that Dr Wolfe loves his job. This is the exact ‘type’ of person I’d want reconstructing an accident I was in. I would cry if it was Trooper Paul with his maths , and stuff🤦♀️
I think Paul was just a puppet.
@@mariee.5912 absolutely but has testified in court before after actively handling cases, terrifying!
That’s how fd up MSP is.
After Trooper Paul's testimony, I told my husband I wouldn't even want T.P. testifying to a minor fender bender in a report to my insurance company let alone a homicide case! 🤯
Imagine that not only did he give testimony, like he's a trooper worked on the case -- HE'S THE GODDAMN EXPERT?!?! 💀
Rewatch here. I was exactly like you before these witnesses. There were points in this trial where I saw each side as possible but the investigation was so bad, could only vote NG. But after today’s witnesses, truly feel KR had no part in his death. Still don’t know what actually happened but it was NOT a car.
Not guilty in all charges. Shameful investigation for a Boston Police Officer (or anyone for that matter). I want so badly for Officer O’Keefe to have Justice and I regretfully believe this will not happen. I hope KR sues as there need to be serious changes with police and DA do business so this NEVER happens again.
Extremely credible testimony the defence team rocked it...
if I were on the jury it would be not guilty for me
Thank you for covering all these cases without being rude and disrespectful towards the lawyers and witnesses
I agree today those last witnesses she is not guilty😊
No one cares what you think.😂
@@Resmith18SRno one cares for your comments
@@Summersun34 You're not on the jury and your opinions weren't explained with any specific evidence.
@@Resmith18SR my opinion is I don’t care for your comments my evidence is that I wrote it 😂😂😂
@@Summersun34 Evidence from the trial genius. Evidence from the trial is what a jury bases their verdict on, not your opinions which are a dime a dozen.
Beware if you ever have a cracked tailight. Might be more than just a caution to get it fixed before driving on the road......who knows, you might just end up being charged for murder.
😅😂😅
The scary part is that if they had left his body at the curb, she might have been convicted; with just enough of a bump to knock him off balance backwards, and some rando dog biting him. The distance from the road did them in. I bet they were originally aiming to frame the snow plow driver
Why did Jen McCabe want to shift the timeline of the evening?
When John O'Keefe called her to say he had arrived at the Albert house at 12;15am (or whatever), Jen says that those two calls back and forth to J.O were actually so she could give a far away J-O'Keefe "directions to the Albert house". Her false narrative would shift O'Keefe's arrival at the Albert house forwards to fifteen minutes later, after hooligan nephew Colin was already gone.
Why would Jen want people to think that O'Keefe and Karen were far away at a time when they had already arrived at the Albert house?
I think that it has something to do with giving nephew Colin Albert an alibi. They wanted to get 20y/o hooligan Colin Albert back to his own house right away so that he would have an alibi on his own home's WIFI at 12;30am, (which is the fake time that O'Keefe had "arrived at the Albert house").
*If I were a juror, my vote would be Not Guilty across-the-board.
*Imo, justice for Officer O'Keeffe needs to include his friends and family understanding the evidence proves that Karen didn't do this, but the people who did have been hiding behind the lies they've been told - unfortunately.
I went into this trial thinking the defense are not going to prove their theory. Wow was I wrong. THE PROSECUTION WITNESSES PROVED ME WRONG.The more I looked into this the more I could see how the defense is right. I think that Jenn convinced Karen that you were so drunk you probably hit him. SOthe Karen starts to think maybe I did. But then the defense looks into it and the Albert's have a history like Chris Albert getting 6 months were he crossed the lane and hit and then ran. If he was intoxicated by the time he turned himself in he got 6 months. NOW Chris is Colin's dad . LAST NIGHT turtle boy went to eat . But the Chris and Colin and others had gone before a judge and said that the Albert's and mccades were afraid for their life to get a protection order against turtle boy. Last night the Albert's Chris And others circled him slapped the phone out of turtle boys hand but girlfriend turned hers on. ONe of the Albert's told him to come over trying to push him so he would violate the protection order. Watching them I can see the Albert's surrounding John and it getting out of hand.
Oh wow that's insane if that's true.
I think that Jenn gas-lit Karen into thinking that she had hit O'Keefe, and then Karen went around telling people "I hit him".
And to top it off...Judge Bev's brother was Chris Albert's defense attorney. Go figure.
@@stugrant01But Karen doesn't seem like the type to be talked into something like that? Seems very strong-willed?
@@shazzaseesIn the moment of panic, I don't know if it was Jen so much talking Karen into anything but the power of suggestion. 🤷🏼♀️
Pretty sure the mode; and year of her Lexus has automatic breaking for rear pedestrian too… notice Lally objected to that - when Dr. Wolfe started to talk about his study/ report on this. And the judge sustained the objection. This is someone’s life at stake. That information is critical and should have been allowed. 💔
That was scary! When the Judge wants you to be found guilty! OMG!
It’s insane that she objected to that, because Dr. Wolfr literally wrote a paper on that very type of car.
Not guilty lally didnt prove beyond a reasonable doubt
Not guilty and absolutely innocent!
Defense witnesses were incredible. They spoke well and clear. Everything they said made the most sense yet!!!
Glass cannon?? lol..no examining of SUV but they were incredible? Garbage.
@Pebblez
Just give it up already.
Common sense.
Science and physics.
John was not hit by a vehicle.
@@PEBBLEZ21- as they stated when they litigate a case and they’re called in it can be years after the crash or crime has taken place. They don’t actually need the SUV to be able to reenact what would happen to SUV that’s the whole point of them creating the canon, dummy. These guys literally crash dummies to come up with scenarios of how things happen and WHY they happen that way. They had all the pictures. They had the medical reports , and that’s all they needed. The best evidence they had on their side science, logic, and physics.
I'm sure the expert with the dimples was well-liked by the jury. Handsome and dimples and very intelligent! What's not to like??
He was🔥🔥🔥
It does not matter murder or manslaughter “ the car did NOT hit John “ and John was NOT hit by a car “ that didn’t ever happen
@lisollete1
I’ve agreed with every comment you have had on this 😀
Dr. Wolfe.😏 EDB’s chat nicknamed him “Crash Daddy.”😂
I already believed cover up about halfway through, but after finding out about the Sandra Birchmore case in Canton today, I believe that entire police force and DA office need to go. To jail probably.
Sandra Birchmore... I guess I need to check this out.
Terrible life not trusting your law enforcement. Next time you’re in trouble call Karen Read the murderer. The conspiracy is BOGUS.
@@PEBBLEZ21do tell us what evidence leads you to her guilt. Your comments point to an emotional verdict instead of factual evidence.
@@PEBBLEZ21 my father is a retired Army colonel and sergeant detective. He is the most ethical and respectable person I know. It’s not that I don’t trust police. But I know what the standard should be. Why don’t you look up the Sandra Birchmore case and see how you think the Canton police truly behave if you don’t believe the corruption in this case. Sleeping with a 15 year old girl… I’m sorry statutory r*… and then passing her around to your cop friends… yeah. Scum of the earth.
I hit him I hit him I hit him?? You want it all??
The defence have presented a flawless, professional and slickest I have ever seen x Alan Jackson is memorising x
#FREEKARENREAD She’s innocent it’s obvious
Dr. Rentschler wrenched the Common Wealth's case and operation.
Yes! I hope the defence quotes him about what he said about not being able to deny science and physics in their closing!
I had to work in the neighborhood John was killed. It’s hard enough going 30mph by that area. Absolutely no way Karen drove over 25 backwards. I suggest anyone who lives near by to examine it themselves and they will come to the same conclusion. Absolutely disgusting that the police went along with this garbage.
Absolutely horrendous.
Mr. Wolfe was the kid that while his friends were playing tag and hide and seek, he was building ROCKETS!
I would vote not guilty and I think she’s innocent. The witness testimony is overwhelming that the injuries are not consistent with impact by a car. Even common sense from the beginning would cause you to ask where are the bruises from a vehicle going 24 mph?
If the canton police, the CW and the Judge all seek to be so Shady to me. How can we expect these Jurors to be any less SHADY THEN the ones I’ve mentioned above. I understand all of us with Common Sense are able to see through this BS but I’m not so confident in this Jury. I worry they will side with the Police. Statistically that’s been a common problem with Jurors. We all need to say a prayer over this case. That this Jury can see through the BS!
@LisaJeter9511 - Try to think Positive - Aidan Kearny (aka TurtleBoy) has been in the Courtroom for Days giving Breakdowns of the Jurors Reactions to Testimony & he's been saying for awhile that they've all but Checked out when Lally was still Questioning his Witnesses, but would perk up when the Defense would Cross them. The Jurors were also taking Notes, Smiling during parts where it was Proven that Things said by CW Witnesses were Lies... I have High Hopes that the Jurors are on the SAME EXACT PAGE as us in Believing Karen isn't just NOT GUILTY, BUT INNOCENT. As in, she had NOTHING to do w/ John's Death.
In Fact, I've come to the Conclusion that they were initially going to try to pin John's Death on Lucky, to make it look like John got Hit by a Plow, but that Ship Sunk when Karen Woke up, got on the Phone & then immediately got in her Car to start looking for him... & that's when Blaming Karen was Birthed.
It's sickening to think about what was done to Karen that she's never really had a Chance to Grieve John, but to think that it could've been Lucky in Karen's Shoes is unconscionable!!
#KarenReadIsInnocent
#FreeKarenRead
#JusticeForJohnOKeefe
@@ColorMeErinThere is such an unjustice going on. I totally agree above what you just said. I cannot believe the judge doesn't allow the truth to come in. I cannot believe Lally could be a bully to some of the witnesses. It is just unbelievable how she has handled this case. And I really, really feel that the feds and anybody above the d. A goes after these people, including the Albert's and the McCabe's.
I'm _wicked_ confident in the jury of my peers. 😂 Us Massholes are cynical AF. I'm not concerned at all.
NICHOLAS CANNON It's not as many people as you think.In this framing they were going to blame the Plower, Lucky However, they had to switch gears.I cannot believe you within karen is guilty with all the evidence that has presented through today
CHANENP You need to watch the video on this. The Dr was DPPT ON, completely correct on the Anatomical Postion,
I enjoy the passion and competency of Crash Daddy Dr. Wolfe. It makes me excited about science!
How can they even say guilty to manslaughter dui when these experts literally proved John wasn't hit by car🙃🤔
That's my thoughts too
So proud to hear you say that Peter. You always remain professional and I appreciate that about you. But I have to admit, I’m proud to hear you say bravely that you can rule out that she hit him.
The flow between these two without prepping him is absolutely incredible!
The glass found on the bumper didn't match the glass found on JO from the cup. Proctor probably thought it would be a good idea to throw a cup and they would think it was the cup JO had. They didn't think this case would get so big and thought she would just go with it and not fight
I swear, at times I feel like Lally thinks Karen is innocent and wants to be certain she gets acquitted! This couldn't be from a car? No. Are you sure? Yes. Are you REALLY sure? Yep, pretty sure based on my decades of experience. You mean it couldn't have happened this way either? Nope. No way, no how. OK, then. Glad we cleared that up.
Crazy.
Dr. Wolfe is a magical man
He was a great witness. Clear definitive answers. Easy to understand the technical info.
Perfect expert witness 👌
Wolfe's Testimony was the nail in the coffin for me personally.
Watching the trials during the day and you in the early evening, I go to bed feeling like a smarter version of myself. Thanks for your awesome coverage & feedback, and reminding us to keep an open mind during trials.
Prosecutions expert said the glass on the bumper was not from the drinking glass found in the yard, but Lally said today that it was.
turtle boy should of stole a glass lol and compared since his iphones didn’t match JO data going down a hill as stairs
Lol, who is this turtle boy that everybody everybody’s talking about?
Thank you, Peter, for all you have been doing to keep us informed. I loved Dr. Sheridan, what a stellar expert. It would be shameful to doubt his excellent expertise. The Alberts should be worried, especially the younger thug!
Can the victim family sue Canton Police over their investigation who ruin their only chance of getting justice?
I think they are pretty confident KR is guilty. I'm not sure if that's based off of what witchy Jen McCabe has been feeding them and the prosecution or if they knew the FBI results until today. I'm not sure.
Was totally thinking about this. Like Karen could potentially sue but John and his family deserved so much better and 100% should sue if it’s possible.
They believe KR is guilty.
@@user-fc7vf7rz5h even if they think she’s guilty, they could/should still sue because they made really unprofessional decisions that, if Karen is somehow guilty, couldn’t come to light due to their bad investigation.
@@user-fc7vf7rz5h That still could be motive to want to sue the state. If Karen was guilty, and she is found not guilty, it's not hard to argue that their absolute failure of handling a crime scene or investigating contributed to her not being found guilty.
Before Closing Arguments, how's everyone feeling? (I think KR is 100% Not Guilty)
The prosecution keeps repeating things that they were never able to prove. Strange
💯 innocent/not guilty. Thorough investigation into police.
Ohhh my goodness
Those Dimples
And an intelligent man too
I went to EMT school (training). I did my clinical studies in the ER, then Paramedic, and now a nurse and my theory is there was an alcohol induced altercation, and in the midst of the fight, that got completely out of control real quick. I think the dog, Chloe, attacked JO protecting it's owner. Dog's are extremely territorial of its owners and we know this dog was aggressive to start with! Ive never seen any car accident patients without injuries to the body. If his arm took the full impact, there would be serious trauma to his elbow, shoulder, and wrist, all the bony prominences. There would be broken bones with severe bruising. I don't now and will never believe that JO was hit by a 7000 pound car in the arm and thrown 30 feet causing a skull fraction! Just my opinion..My heart aches for this family, never knowing what truly happened to their son, I can't begin to imagine how painful they must be 😢 xx hydie
I just want to know what is going on with Higgins. Why did he go to the Police Station after drinking. Why did he go to a base to break his SIM card and throw away the phone. What’s the deal with his Jeep being there and then not being there.