LIVE! Lawyer Reacts: Read Trial Day 12: Colin Albert Takes Stand + DNA Expert & Harassment BOMBSHELL
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I am a retired 28 year police officer, and I can't wait until this Trooper Proctor guy gets on the stand, because he is gonna get destroyed
Agree that the witness am waiting for
He is just gonna do what they all do: lie and deny
❤❤❤qq😊@@pumpkinfield100
Someone commented today that the prosecution is spending so much time trying to defend the Alberts that they’ve forgotten to prosecute KR. I keep wondering if they’ll get around to it but who knows at this point.
They have nothing to prosecute her with.
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Heard that from somebody in Emily D Baker’s chat today.
Seems like if they had a lot of evidence, that's what they'd focus on. Doesn't seem to be the case so far
Agreed @@brandonman1315
Best part of the day was defense asking the animal DNA lady “would you store samples in red solo cups?” and her response is just “…I’m sorry, what??” 😂 amazing
They were taking samples of the snow. They packaged in evidence bags. I don’t see what’s wrong with that.
@@bcoull290Putting blood or DNA samples directly into plastic cups could lead to contamination from the cup material itself leaching into the sample. It also provides an environment conducive to bacterial/enzymatic degradation of the DNA. Sure putting them in evidence bag may have helped..the DNA integrity was already compromised. It's kinda like.. being served a beer in a dirty glass but was wrapped in plastic. Would you drink the beer?
@@bcoull290they're not civilians. There's a reason investigators have required tools for these things. I've read and watched cartoons that trat evidence better. They also could never confirm when it was put into evidence. It was just left on the floor, in an OPEN bag.
@@bcoull290well a crime scene not being guarded from the public to throw anything to taint the evidence, the red solo cups not sanitized not covered and a grocery bag.. it's like a nurse using a dirty needle on a patient..
@@bcoull290Because it makes the DNA collection completely useless. It might result in something very confusing, like pig DNA.
“Re-homed their phones”
Peter, you’re the best! 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it!!
I mean sometimes phones misbehave, have minds of their own & no amt if training works😂😂😂
So…the state is saying that Karen hit him on purpose, then came back to the scene when police arrived hours later just to say, “I hit him!” over and over? None of their theory makes any sense.
Ya know, I never even thought about this. If she did it on purpose wouldn't she not say that?? If she was so drink she didn't remember, yes, but then how can you stack charges like that? Just go for invol manslaughter and this whole circus of a thing wouldn't happen!
My 19 yr old eyes bulged when the screen shot of texts came into evidence. He said those so easily could be doctored or created at a later date! This trial is mind blowing.
Mine said the same!
Happens all the time in divorce, cuatody, and criminal cases!!
@@stellaallbright4750 it shouldn’t, get an extraction done or it doesn’t come in. A picture of a screenshot is completely unreliable.
An overwhelming amount of reasonable doubt and more doubt gets raised with almost every witness so far
Its impossible for this many things to go wrong without it being intentional.
HOLY FREAKING HECK!! I watched this live on EDB. I completely MISSED that she said "When John was there." Just freaking WOW! 😮 😮
I caught it. Just before she broke into tears.
Alison was talking about the vast amount of nasty harassment the family have been subjected to. She actually said that part of that harassment was that bloggers/online persons were accusing Colin of murder when they said that Colin was in the house when John was there. She qualified this by saying “but he wasn’t, I drove him home.”
People only heard the very last part of her statement “Colin was in the house when John was there,” and they ignored all the rest. That part of the statement was used on CZcams to get sympathy for Karen Read.
I wish the defense said something after that
I don’t see this as a wow. John was there, on the lawn.
I had a thought that she started crying because she slipped saying "when John was there. ".
Poor John O’Keefe…RIP……💙🖤 I hope he somehow gets justice💙🖤
I hope so too, I feel like he gets lost in this.
Me too!
I didn't catch Allison stating "when John was at the house" before, but now that it's been pointed out to me, I'm guessing that slip is part of why she broke down crying; not only has she been harassed but she's covering for someone or more than one person and she knows that didn't sound good for the prosecution.
John was there, everybody knows it.
That is very obviously correct, as his body was found at the house. The question is whether he was IN the house.
@@kylatripp8315 lol true that... don't upset the trolls
@@kylatripp8315which of this witness saw john at the house ?
No one has disagreed that John was there.
Not one witness has seen John at the house, just the black suv. Go look at John autopsy photos.. you don’t get all that from someone hitting you at 24 mph.
Complete incompetency of Police investigation!!!!
Yes, a complete mess!!!
its not incompetence. Even an incompetent investigator knows if you request a persons cellphone, and they tell you they cant give it to you because they brought a new one, that an iphone will sync all the data over to the new phone automatically, a regular person with no expertise knows this. Incompetence doesn't create a situation where none of the neighbours have security footage of the event and there is no data confirming who was at the home and when. Thats intentional.They are just making up excuses thinking the public and jurors will be stupid enough to believe it.
@user-vv7ze9ii1t Don't be misled. What looked like missteps and incompetency resulted directly from their immediate efforts to cover this up as quickly as possible.
Of course they weren't going to do some top-notch, thorough investigation. Not because they're idiots, but because in doing so, they would have exposed THEMSELVES as murderers.
A good investigation seeks the truth, leaves no stone unturned, and catches the bad guys - who get punished. Expect the opposite if the investigators ARE the bad guys.
If the truth got out, they would lose EVERYTHING. I would add to that, "and they still could (lose everything)," but we rarely see that kind of justice. Money & power, corruption & intimidation. C'est la vie
corruption
INTENTIONAL half-ass investigation because if they did anything more than that, they would EXPOSE THEMSELVES.
I'm hoping the verdict is not guilty, but even if it isn't, we'll never know the truth of what happened. Which really sucks for John and his family.
The Defense and the State KNOW the truth!!!! The Feds are still investigating
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Karen dropped John off and came back at 6 a.m.when he hadn't,come home.If he wasn't,at the Albert's for the missing hours, where was he.
@LEABEE2329 I totally agree. Let's say she's found not guilty, I highly doubt the commonwealth is going to look any further into the case to find out what really happened that night. Hopefully, the Feds figure out the truth.
@@Beautifuldisaster16 100%
Too bad they didn’t let the Federal investigation finish before bringing this to court. ( iMO)
Why do you think it’s being done the other way around.
@@vee5294 exactly, and the fact that the fbi didn't step back means they know what happened too.
The Feds are still Investigating as of 2 weeks ago
@@vee5294 Because this way all the "witnesses" are forced to answer questions. Questions they couldn't be asked otherwise because they all lawyered up.
They did convene grand Juries but that testimony can't be used against them for anything but impeachment.
The feds used to use a trick to investigate public corruption. They would grant an innocent defendant immunity and let crooked trials happen. So they could gather tons of evidence against crooked public officials.
I feel like this case is so over the top because it has to be. They know if there's not pig DNA and all this other crazy stuff a jury just might buy Morrissey didn't know Karen Read was innocent bullshit.
This is a very weird case. Not only is the defendant innocent. They know who killed John O'Keefe. They know where in the house it happened. They know why he was killed.
Most of all. There's no way the prosecutor and judge doesn't know it all too. Because both know this case inside and out and have seen all the evidence.
They know Brian Higgins turned. They know he gave a federal proffer.
They know Wanless removed Karen's tail light before it was smashed. Another person on the defense witness list.
Two people who were in the Canton police garage when that part of the framing went down. And they're willing to testify for the defense.
I’m sure they are watching this trial…
I don’t think Life 360 is off enough to create entire trips accidentally.
If Allison didn't think the "screen shots" of texts weren't relevant then why did she take them?
Boom 💥
Got her!
💯🎯💯🎯
Exactly. I cant believe he didn’t ask that. But he did ask when she took the screen shot and that is very telling as to when. Of course she answers “I don’t recall”. If the screen shot was taking within that first week or so, that would definitely signal a plan to protect and provide Colin an alibi. If it was done a year later or after the iPhone upgrade then it wouldn’t seem as nefarious; assuming that it is the truth.
OFFS, she took it when she was asked.
One of the investigators who took DNA swaps failed the course to make sure they were proficient.
Ryan sat behind KR car for 5 mins and didn’t notice a broken taillight. He said the break lights were on, meaning there would be one white and one red break light if one was broke
Have been watching all of trial from beginning. I didn't have any prior knowledge and have now found myself skipping the prosecution as it got to the point where I was losing the will to live.
Peter, can we have a “What’s. Up. Every. Buddy.” shirt? I say it with you every time.
I agree!! I’d definitely buy one!!😂
I so look forward to the “what’s up every body” intro. It’s so simple but effective
Adorable u say it along w him 👍🏽
I came to edit my reply and it's gone (maybe auto-removed because I included the link) but there's a few styles that say this! I have the tyedye one with it embroidered on and love it ❤ but there's also plain black and a tank top
@@amandamacabre for sure but he says it like “buddy”
The solo cup part had me rolling this morning 😂
She said “excuse me, what?” Lol
@user-uv4cl5vf5i the look on her face was priceless
That was a riot!!! 😆 🤣 😂 that & yesterday's "Of Course" moment. Lmao!!!
@@Usermemo8787 twice!🤣
1:27:20 Allie: "He was not at the house when John was there. So, I drove him home.
1:27:57 "So he's, people are harassing him saying he was at the house when (pause), not true."
At the pause, was she going to say it again, that John was there, but caught herself because of the previous Freudian slip?
I noticed that too. She paused to make sure to not repeat that part of the sentence and then immediately started crying after realizing what just happened.
The defense AND the Commonwealth agreed that none of the harassment issues should be brought up, the Judge disagreed!! Btw, her MOM is the one that brought these poor kids in.
Absolutely 💯
I think they both agreed that it should Come in and she disagreed with both of them.
Also I read that the adults in her family are doing plenty of harassing too!
I agree with you.. I do feel bad for her at the end here, however she & the kids should be looking back at their parents who brought them into this mess.. how will it affect their future? very sad.
Who's mom?
You dont even need to edit the messages. I could get a second phone, save the number on my phone as anyone I want like say depp, have a back and forth with myself where "depp" admits to hitting his misses for fun when she did nothing wrong, screenshot it, and based on the screenshot alone you have no way of telling if that convo is authentic or not. screenshot of that fake convo would be indistinguishable from a screenshot of the real thing.
here theyre using the screenshots as evidence that supports them not not being at a location at a time, theres evidence that goes against the texts, but the witness vouching for the screenshots came across sympathetic to the jury with her cry about harassment, so who are the tech illiterate jurors gonna believe?
All of this being allowed in was so messed up. I hope the defence has enough material and by the end the jury wont put much on this witness and her "texts".
Good post, it is absolutely laughable that a screenshot would be allowed, even with all the exif data intact could still have been edited in the photos app. If we are looking at a copy with metadata stripped out that's even worse, and then it seems like we are looking at a SCAN of that - which is absurd and destoys any hope of proving photo manipulation.
That month with no texts between best friends is smoking gun evidence that cell phone data was tampered with
Or, something happened and they didn’t speak…….
That’s not evidence of a crime. These people are all grown up with jobs. I’m sure that they don’t sit texting each other in the way they did when they were kids. Either way, how does no texts between friends prove that Karen Read murdered her boyfriend or not?
Only Karen Read is on trial for murder.
i think it’s interesting that the next text says “on a zoom” saying like “don’t call or text…go to zoom” OR is it referencing her interview with cops that was ON zoom? 🧐
@@aubreyedison1011
I believe that her interview with the lawyers was carried out on zoom. Emily D B repeated that on her live.
@@aubreyedison1011her police interview was on zoom but didn't happen until months later.
I give Peter SO MUCH CREDIT for remaining objective & only watching & discussing what the Jurors see/hear.
This case is wild!
Amen
Super coverage by Peter clarifying details
He seems to be strongly leaning toward the defense, even though simple people like me see through the defense and how they are sneaking in false information with their questions. The witnesses stories mostly match. The defense has been sneaky and I hope the jury sees through it.
@@barbaramay1866 "simple people" apparently means "bloodthirty wine moms" now, huh? Because y'all are the only ones who think she's guilty.
@@-Monad- I didn't say she was guilty. I DID say her defense is absurd. She probably did hit him. It may have been an accident, but the evidence does point to her. Show me a defense team that doesn't pick apart every investigation right down to the dumbest things imaginable and making a BIG deal out of the tiniest of details.
I totally caught the Feds comment and the one about John being at the house! Life 360 was a great find too.
I feel like her not being on Wifi is stronger evidence than anything that she didn’t go home.
Whose phone doesn’t auto connect to their home Wifi?
@@sallycinnamon5370
That was my first thought but we shall see what the data experts say.
@@sallycinnamon5370well, some people (me included) turn off wifi on their phones when they leave the house and might forget to turn it back on. Sometimes it takes me hours until i realize 😅 i don't like my phone trying to connect to random wifi when I'm outside. So unless wifi was turned on on the phone that might be an explanation for that. Or I'm the only one too dumb to turn it back on 😂
@@sallycinnamon5370
Life 360 doesn’t create trips either. I’ve had this app on my daughter’s phone for 10+ years and it’s never created a trip. It’ll be interesting to hear an expert on this!
“He was not at the house when John was there” the Prosecutor has always said John was not there. Whoopsy… I’m not doubting she’s been harassed. Imagine how Karen Read feels being framed for murder! IMO
John was at the house doesn’t mean in the house.
Everyone agrees John was at the house. His body was found at the house.
@@Sunshinestatejen hmm…way too many fishy things in this case. His injuries are not from her Lexus. The Feds have established that.
@@catelewis7223 if true, I’m sure the defense will have a fed on the stand.
@@Sunshinestatejen I hope so. Yes defense already quoted them in their opening statement which from what I’ve gleaned they can’t say something Wout backing it up. 🙏
It feels like everyone had something to hide in that house and the guests. Then the series of the unfortunate events we will never know about happened and it led to this tragedy. The more we get through the trial the more confused I am…..
The whole idea to to confuse. Common sense says she did it.
@@Jack-bc5xg cmon dude be for real.
@@Jack-bc5xg The prosecution is confusing me. The defense has been remarkably straightforward. I saw nothing about this case beforehand and only watch these trial recaps or the trial itself. I don't understand what supposedly happened, when, or how John O'Keefe passed from his injuries. Just "she hit him with her car and it snowed". There hasn't been any clear evidence around this besides the taillight (which could have happened before/after, no timeline on that). Who do we need to hear from all of these people or what they drank?
@@aliceiscalling remarkably Straightforward 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
I don’t know if she did it or not, however I can say for myself if I was to premeditate my partners demise, it would not be in front of the house of someone like Alberts. Not to mention the risk something like that would carry, with all the people who do not seem to like her inside that house…..🤷🏼♀️ Just my thoughts.
I feel bad for the kids. In my opinion if anything was going down it was at the hands of the grown ass people acting like the frat party and the kids got caught in the crossfire. Sadly
I caught that too, Peter! She said “when John was at the house”!!!! HUGE Freudian slip! I wonder if that’s actually why she got emotional, because she knew she slipped.
To be fair tho, he was at the house, they just claim he wasn't ever inside it ... ??? Id probably speak that way too even if the person I was talking about never came IN. So 🤷.
Unless I've missed something. Coz I haven't watched that part yet so I might have.
She absolutely played the victim after slipping up. It was so see-through. It's all everyone us talking about. Too bad, so sad Allie!
Did John punch a raw pork roast....where'd the pig blood come from?
@@dawnkladerman598@dawnkladerman598 😂😂
It was just pig dna, not blood. The scientist said that DNA can be picked up from food...maybe he had some kind of pork earlier in the evening?
Trial today was such a roller coaster! Thank you Peter for taking the time to recap the trial on a daily basis with all of us! 💗 I appreciate it immensely and always learn something new.
Ha that doggo has a bear.
Lets talk about the judge stopping cross. I PERSONALLY THINK THE CORRUPTION IS SO DEEP IN THAT COURT ROOM THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CONTINUE
This is getting juicy. I knew it I'm originally from Boston, and we are very hot 😮blooded and loyal to the end and I live in upstate NY. I remember when you said you didnt really want to cover this case. Thanks for covering this case you break it down so simple for us. Justice for John O'Keefe. And Karen Read. Love ❤️ and hugs 🫂
I don’t feel sorry for them.The defense didn’t put them on the stand, their parents and the corrupt system did.Nobody from their family was found dead in the yard.
The entire family was DUI incl underage...even the children have cognitive memory loss.... conveniently. Every last one "upgraded" their phones (a euphemism for spending $1500 on a new iPhone)
Exactly!
This family looks like conspirators to me.
How many ppl in your life would cover up a murder for you? At this point, there’s about 26 people involved in this conspiracy. That’s pretty ridiculous.
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Important detail Ryan and the girlfriend in the truck said the dome light inside the dark SUV (KR Lexus) was ON, This giving them better visibility. Only saw a women, not a man like they had noticed when the SUV first drove up. Plus, all 3 in the F-150 said they were not watching the SUV or front yard/ house when Julie Nagel talked to them at the truck for close to 5 minute. J O Keefe could have walked into the house at that time without them seeing him. Their focus was on their phones or on Julie during this time. AJ brought thought out in his cross. Did anyone hear what time of the night this was?
There's no clear timeline except for evidence that KR was home by 12.41. These witnesses just say after 12
Why was everyone hiding the fact that Colin Albert was at that house that evening ?
It’s even more concerning when you see a photograph taken a few weeks later & his knuckles are all cut up from obviously punching someone or something.
His explanation on how he got those injuries is absurd.
As a jury member I am voting to acquit. Way too many inconsistencies and things not tracking.
As a jury member you should not be thinking about innocence or guilt until the trial is absolutely over.
You should be removed from the jury if you have decided the case before all the facts and deliberations. This is so wrong for you to post your a jury member and already made up your mind. This is what’s wrong with our justice system jurors not keeping an open mind until ALL EVIDENCE is presented .
Maybe you didn’t hear the part where Peter asked “if you were a jury member how would you vote?” I was answering Peter’s hypothetical question.
Please chill. I live on the opposite side of the country. And I am not on any jury. And should I be on any jury I would never talk about the case or post on social media on any pending trial.
@@pearlskid8425people aren't very bright!
Do you realize the prosecution keep bringing witnesses that help the defense more than it help them?
Could it be that they're trying to throw the case instead of dropping the charges?
Maybe they're afraid to drop charges due to the power play in that small town.
She is lying. We have life 360. Never off like that. The whole crying thing. She seems very manipulative to me.
She deserves the razzies award for that fake cry boo hoo
As someone who hid my addiction from my parents for many years, the first thing i thought of was that she was out doing something she wasn't supposed to and doesn't want her parents to believe it now that it's out. I've picked up many a drug in a school parking lot lol
@@janedoe1573right or even had a booty call at the parking lot with Colin
The fact that your 360 works does not mean that every single users’ 360 never fails.
@@enigma_-_79 Please!! Is Canton the black hole of technology? All their apps and phones malfunction, call and receive calls on their own…
Colin not there when John was there…….WOW big slip of the tongue😄😄😄😄
There's no dispute that he was there.
Why did Ally think to take screenshots of the conversation of she didn’t think it was relevant until over a year later? If the texts were still on her phone why are these texts coming in from a screenshot and not an extraction report?
Holy crap look how her face changes immediately after she says John was at the house 😮😮😮😮
The defense heard it but they don't want to call it out they wanted to keep going they want her to feel comfortable telling the truth.
It would've come across badly recrossing a young woman supposedly in tears. I think they did the right thing to just leave that sitting in the jury's head overnight. It's certainly blown up the lawtube comments over the past 12 hours.
What's the time stamp when she says john was there?
We all know he was there.
I missed this how long into does it happen ?
@@lorrainebyrne2496 right before she started crying
I'm outside of Boston and when I saw you on the news, I laughed and sent it to my friends and said, I TOLD YOU HE'S THE BEST! Haha great job!
Great coverage!!
Love your channel. Thank you so much for the nightly recaps and the time you give all of us with your busy life!!!
Messages usually only show a timestamp if a certain amount of time has passed between messages but that doesn’t explain the texts from Colin having no bubble around them or the comma after the year in the timestamp among other issues
That is weird. Mine does it as soon as the day changes and I send my first message irregardless if it is 12:01 or 12:10. So, I find that hard to believe.
If there's a silver lining to see here, I think it's the way so much of the public has had Karen's back and expressed disappointment that she's even in this situation. Not that it makes up for much but it's atleast good to know the public has the good since to see through the 🐂💩.
Great analysis!
Hello, I have watched all of your videos and I really appreciate your explanation of the process and overview of cases.
Karen Read gave an interview that aired on Nightline a year ago. She said she was waiting in the car for John to confirm they were actually invited and welcome there. She told John that she did not hear the two of them be invited. She seemed to think John admired Brian Albert and wanted to go, but it was really other family members at their table who were being invited. She said she saw John walk toward the side door and waited for him to check with the residents and call her, but he didn't call her or answer her calls, so she left. I've wondered how she expected him to get home with no jacket. She may have thought he would call her when he wanted to come home. In any event, it appears there was a lot of snow under John's body, and there should not have been. Even when Julie Nagle left at 1:45 am, she said you could still see some grass. It's as if he vanished. Heather, the former girlfriend of Ryan Nagle, saw a male in the passenger seat of Karen's car when it made a right turn into the street right before they made a left turn into the same street. The next time she looked in the car, it was only Karen. There was no high speed or reverse movements of her vehicle. All I can figure is that maybe John snuck off to take a leak on his way into the party and that he was assaulted then. His body was moved, because there wasn't enough blood under his body from that gash on the back of his head. I think those are claw scratches and claw punctures along the outside of his right arm from a dog. I don't think a racoon would do that. The dog may have found John's body after it was already down. The fact that people upgraded their phones and deleted evidence means they were hiding something, but I don't know if it means they were hiding evidence related to John. His death may have been an accident, but I think his body was moved. So, why?
Erin Brockovitch is rumoured to be en route to Canton to take water and soil samples to see if she can get to the bottom of the mysterious memory loss.
You win comment of the day!
The forensic expert was NEVER entered or established as a PROFESSIONAL EXPERT. 🚫
I'm wondering if this stuff was decided outside of the cameras/audio? It's definitely different from every other case I've seen but 🤷♀️
The pig DNA is important I think because that is found in dog treats!
At this point, im convinced the prosecution is going for quantity over quantity. Ive taken to watching other YT videos while Lally is questioning the witnesses cause we all know it was snowing, but he continues to ask every witness if it was snowing. Along with a litany of other cumulative questions. 🤦🏻♀️
Yep trying to fool the jury into them believing they having so much evidence. That’s why he is stretching out each direct.
When candy crush was popular it you lock you out from game play for a few hours and my mom would go in the settings on her iPhone and change the time which would speed up the time in the game to unlock the next game
Lol!! Great hack! 😆 🤣 😂
Hardly anybody in this entire cast of characters has to be on a conspiracy. One or two people are enough. Everybody else’s memories and perceptions could easily become slanted in favor of the Albert family, their trusted lifelong law enforcement friends. Karen was an outsider.
Great coverage Peter
Could Allison have broken down because she knows she blew it saying John was in the house???
Yes I believe that's exactly what happened....I feel bad for her....her mom put her up to it😢😢😢
And OJ was innocent
@@Jack-bc5xgso your saying Colin is guilty? Hmmm
She didn't say "in" she said "when john was there"... which he was. He was outside with KR in her suv.
Yes. Possible that and the realization that the Life 360 evidence from her mother’s phone may prove her alibi for Colin blown. As well as the trouble she could be in if she did manufacture the texts and lied under oath. IF that is all true.
Somebody has flipped imho. The defense has their ducks in a row. She is innocent
Brian Higgins Signed a Federal Proffer.
Brian Higgins sounds like a dooosh
You have made up your mind long before the trial is over. Let’s hope the jury knows that that how the US legal system works.
@enigma9605 the police and prosecution lost me at red solo cups.
Now she could be guilty, but due to all of their mistakes and fruit of the poisonous tree issues - the State's case is built on garbage that is unusable to prosecute beyond reasonable doubt. The State can not prove their case, because they can not provide reliable evidence. If they had good evidence, they would not need to spend multiple weeks asking a group of family and friends the floor plan of a house.
Also, none of the evidence has proven that Karen hit a person that could kill them. The wounds on the body did not match an SUV hitting it.
@@enigma_-_79 Well, she *IS* innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt!! Did you forget that part?!
I ❤ your recaps, you are so straight down the line. Court facts and commentary not taking sides.
Regarding Allison McCabe's 360 data I think the defense is going to introduce evidence from video cameras after the prosecution rests.
Allie said something like “mine is the blue bubble, Collin is the light grey bubble” - there is no grey bubble. But should be.
Peter thanks so much for your coverage! I like hearing your recaps. LIke most people I can't watch the entire trial and miss things and having recently sat as a juror I can also say even being there you sometimes miss things. Also yes you can change time and time zones I live within 20 miles of the where Eastern time switches to Central and sometimes my phone has switched to Central so I force it to stay Eastern.
Problem is their texts say 12:10, but waterfall video shows BA & N.A. leaving around 12:14, they testified that N.A. bumped into him in the foyer and BA said he was at the table.
My best friend and I have a text thread on my phone going back to April of 2021, both iPhones, all iMessages… there is NO second comma. There’s a month and day, a comma, the year, and then ‘at’ with the time. The only comma is like ‘April 28, 2021 at 8:30pm’
Does it put the year on messages from the current year?
12:10 seems significant. It’s the exact time Julie Albert said Chris Albert got home. Per the video, he didn’t leave the bar until 12:14.
The thing I find the most interesting is that Ally’s text line up perfectly with their synchronized but demonstrably incorrect testimony.
They both swore he came home 10 minutes after Chris. But he was picked up before Chris even left the bar. He should have beat him home by 5 minutes or at best have arrive simultaneous if he took 5 to leave the house…
There are lies happening but it hard to know why. I really wish someone had investigated.
I think there is a good chance that Karen hit him accidentally and either didn’t know or got freaked out and left. But with all the holes in the investigation and the fact that it seems a guilty verdict means taking the Albert families word without any scrutiny and would make me uncomfortable.
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Outstanding coverage Peter! As a fellow 40er love the Mike Gundy reference!
It is sad they were harassed but how convenient she cried after admitting John was there when Collin was not!
after more than a year of hearing that they have implicated Collin, and that John was "killed inside the house, it is easy to understand why she said that.
She got her words jumbled up
I thought she dried her tears up quite quickly. 🤔
She meant she took collin home and john wasn't there then. At the house doesn't necessarily mean in the the house. It could have meant on the lawn.
Police are never sterile at scene. Aseptic at best. The blood and stuff in snow was contaminated in snow from get go.
She could have simply changed the contact name, and she could have been talking to someone else. I can't believe this screenshot was allowed with no real authentication.
She is a decent actress. Notice how she rarely looks at the Jurors during all questioning.
Except cue the "The Door has been opened, ill allow it" questions on harassment. She then looks directly at the jurors and wells up some amber tears (no tears). The staring at the jury along with the facial expressions and the "Cant I have a moment" was well played buy her and I think she scored points with the jury.
Of course no door was really opened for it. But that does not matter if you have biased Ref/Judge
“Would you use a solo cup?”
“What now?”
😂😂
There is at least a 10 minute time black hole. Homeowners saw him when they got home but they didn’t leave the bar till about the time she texted she was there to pick him up.
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i get the sense the family meant to cover up other smaller crimes like underage drinking and now it really confuses everything.
1:19:30
There is an argument to be made that the “turn wifi on” notification supports the idea that she had re-set the time and date on her phone. If you have WiFi on, your phones time and date should sync to local time, re-setting the time/date change
I think thats why she cried because she let slip about John being there,poor girl has to face her crazy family now about it,
Yes! This is exactly what I thought
Would pig DNA come from a pig ear being chewed on by the dog?
Yes. That example was brought up in court.
She said clearly that she found no dog DNA on the sample from the body. If a dog had chewed a pig ear, the DNA would be a mix of dog and pig DNA.
Maybe JOK had a bacon sandwich or pork chops.
I thought the same thing
@@enigma_-_79 But the claws wouldn't have shown dog DNA and when my dogs chew on things, they hold them between their front paws, so maybe the dog had held it like that and gotten some on her claws and when scratching, it transferred?
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Ok have it your way. The expert was wrong and the dog murdered JOK.
Happy now??
not guilty by reason of corruption 🥴🥴
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The photos of Colin introduced in court today were weeks after John was killed. There are photos online where he has a swollen eye and scabs on his knuckles. If he were injured during this fight, I wonder if he missed school the following week.
Not proof of murder or of beating someone up though. Think along the lines of contact sport or clumsy diy/Home improvement projects for example.
I'm getting the impression everyone is trying to protect Colin so that leads me to think what did he do? All those re-homed phones from those closest to Colin....fascinating
@@a.h.9902why not show those pictures then, everyone seems to want to prove this boy is a choir boy, I don't quite get that. Like a 17 year old kid does DIY and says a "Walton's" goodnight to his parents 🙄
I want to know why if Allie and Colin are such good friends, according to her screenshot,after she picked him up, their next text is February 20th with a random text of "on a zoom"? Really, after what happened that night they didn't even text about it for 3 weeks? Is that because there are deleted texts? We'll never know since this is just a screenshot.
This was the first thing I thought also!!! It does not make sense. And no one can tell me they ONLY used social media to talk until February 20th. If they did, that was definitely intentional.
Probably Snapchat or something. I don’t know how it works but popular among kids.
I noticed that too. Anybody else would’ve had their phone extracted yet she was allowed to offer a screenshot to prove when she picked him up. Come on! The phone app Life360 proved she was lying.
And why did she randomly take a screenshot of that particular conversation??? Weird imo.
@@nickiemccormick5392 because it turns out that McCabe and someone else were “investigating”.
Karen admitted in a tv documentary that she didn't want to go in. It sounded like, from that interview, she was waiting outside for John to go in to make sure they were invited to the party. Or maybe she didn't want to go and she wanted John to come back out and go home. She's obviously waiting and doesn't pull away to leave in the time this witness drops off his passenger.
Yanetti did an amazing job showing that The McCabe daughter knows full well she can change dates and time on iPhone. He laid it out so perfectly with all of her knowledge about iPhone and how long she has had one plus her knowledge of apps and other technological things. She was better off just saying she knew you could but she didn’t.
The dna persons response to the solo cups was just brilliant
Poor lady was like “what did he just say? Is he serious right now?” 😂😂😂😂😂
"I'm sorry what?" That has to be a meme when this trial is over. It was priceless. Poor woman, it probably made sense after she left why the defence was asking all the chain of custody questions and contamination stuff.
Thanks for the daily recaps!
Also, I’ve learned by being hyper focused on this trial and all of the different people/lawyers covering it a couple of things. 1.) Peter deserves his own Primetime show or to be appointed to a circuit court as a federal judge. 2.) It reminded me to upgrade my phone.
I believe that when Karen pulled up to the driveway, John jumped out and hurried in the side door. Then pulled up to the mailbox, this is why none of the 3 in the truck saw him go in and why it was only Karen they saw in the suv when they pulled away.
I thought this too but the 2 guys said they only see one person in the suv and the girl said she seen a girl and guy. Weird to me.
Impossible the “side” door was on the other side of the house
We are supposed to think Karen read went into a crazy rage with all these kids hanging out in the driveway and people coming and going? Makes zero sense
@@nickiemccormick5392seen kr and ojo when they met at interception prior to turning onto fairview rd, seen only karen as she was parked after john got out, so we are assuming john ran out into the house, then these 3 pulled up behind her.
@@Momcrimejunkie No, there are two doors ⬆️↗️ and one gate entrance at the flagpole. It makes sense that Karen let John out at the driveway and he went in through the side door⤴️. Julie Nagle then left the house through the main door⤵️…
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For a case that alleges KR was under the influence, she is the only person the commonwealth has not proved was drunk.
I have manually changed the time on my phone and it COMPLETELY messed up the timestamp for receiving and reading text messages.
Would love to be a fly on Allen Jacksons shoulder during a couple conversations between himself and Karen Reed ... whatever it was, it fave Karen reason to grin and smile and even chuckle some
Chicks check photos always. Take a ton of pictures. No way she keeps a random screenshot of useless text for that long. I don’t believe any of these people.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
Then Karen should walk free. I'm not even sure why they brought this case to trial. There is so much reasonable doubt.
'Chicks'. Bruh.
Yep, she needed it to referenceto keep her times right.
All of the data from an iPhone is automatically saved and stored on the iCloud. That means that she can download texts, photos, messages and everything else done on the phone years later. It doesn’t follow that Alison saved particular texts. They are always available.
She said quote unquote "Colin was not at the house when John was there". Did anyone else catch that? Hmmmm
Why couldn’t the defence bring in the Facebook photos if these text messages can come in? We all want to see the hot tub shots 😂
Today's testimony had me wondering if JO teleported into the Albert house! Day 12 has all of us who are watching with an open mind thinking that the state is either defending Karen Read, or chasing the defense, rather than presenting an actual case against her. So confused at this point! Despite having heard outside gossip, I'm trying hard to take it for what is being presented.
The screenshot- fonts look off- there are no outline’s bubbles on the other side from her blue- plus no emojis at all- maybe not but I’d like to see some recent texts for comparison purposes.
just wanted to say that, i am watching the entire trial.. but these recaps are so good... Peter touches on every important point, and some points that i didnt even realise were important. starting to wonder why i am sitting through every repetitive description of the same things, when i could just watch these and still be aware of everything relevant 😂
I'm 50 50 too...but that's only because I don't understand what could have occured if it was the commonwealth. So many possibilities, not many of them make sense. However i do believe if it WAS KR, it was an accident and if it was an accident, i wholeheartedly believe that to this day, she may not truly know whether she did or didn't hit him.
I've said it before i cant count how many nights i dont remember and im not proud of it. As i got older and older it took less alcohol for my nights to become fuzzy.
I don't think jurors find not guilty because of a bad investigation. Theres a very big difference between saying this person probably did it but they are not getting a fair trial so i'm going to find them not guilty (which is a very high standard to met as a juror and more of a matter for an appellate court) and knowing that the investigators and prosecutors are intentionally not collecting and providing evidence because that information would cause me as a juror to find Karen not guilty and demonstrate somebody else was responsible. As a juror I would also be very angry that the prosecution thinks i'm stupid enough to not see through all of this and not be aware of very basic things, like when Brian said he didn't hand his phone over because he got a new one, a juror knows Brian AND the police would be aware that apple would prompt him to sync all his data on his new phone. The would only do something like that if the data demonstrates a different person was responsible for the crime. That gives me a reason to go beyond reasonable doubt and believe that the evidence has been intentionally withheld by the police and witnesses because it proves her innocence and someone else's guilt.
synching personal data is different than the data stored in the OS database - which was destroyed
Think maybe Julie Nagel admitting she was drunk Was Julie's possible way out of being charged with perjury
That was my first thought! Like she was half in half out