F80 M3 vs G80 M3 - Road Battle with
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2021
- It's the one you've all been asking for! We got our G80 M3 and put it against an F80 M3. Now our own F80 wouldn't have been a fair comparison, plus we needed someone to drive the other car! So our friend @BeckyEvans came down with her fairly standard F80 M3, and we headed out to some B-Roads to see how these two M3's compare in the real world.
So far it's been a pretty clean sweep review wise for the G80, but back to back will the F80 hold it's own against BMW's latest and greatest?
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Man that F80 has aged so well. Such a timeless design.
Just the interior hasn’t faired so well!
@@georgedesouza8937 as an F30 owner, I guess I could agree with that, BUT in all fairness it has aged ALOT better than Audi's and ESPECIALLY the Benz of that era.
@@023hw somewhat agree with you but having owned 10 BMWs over 20 years I think the E36 & E53 interiors have faired better than the F80
@@023hw yupppp and the f30 u can add few accessories to make it more dec
It has but at the same time is become quite boring as it's barely different to most standard 3 and 4 series and they are absolutely everywhere.
It's the best video of the two generations, very complete and informative. Becky was clearly the right person to show her honest perspective, just gave an extra flare.
Your effort has been massive in terms of content, keep that brilliant work 💪
Thank you. We really enjoyed making the video and it shows. Format works very well and Becky is very good at what she does.
Nice to see two different perspectives both being 100% honest nice one peeps 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Agree
Becky's review is very honest. Imran seems a bit biased end of the day his the one who went out and bought the G80 so that explains itself. The truth is who wants a soft 'M' car? especially a M3. Can understand if this was an M5. But an M3 has to be BRUTAL.
@@tamimahhaque5742 Still have our F80 so no bias. Just personal preference :-)
F80 suffered from the idea that stiff = good handling. A proper suspension has suppleness that helps keep the car composed and planted. G80 suggests BMW is starting to realize that.
But that is only true for the first model years. There is an important info missing on what model year this F80 is and if it is an Competition model or not. Makes a lot of difference in driving dynamics, traction, steering etc.
100%. Additionally the GTS tunes for the EDC/Diff/Steering completely transforms the F80 Comp into something even better. Beyond the GTS flash I think the front monoball upgrade and some nice coils will get it exactly where I want it. @@shekk0r
Its clear that the f80 is sexier
Copped the g80 isle of man green with orange guts..... I came from a F82 m4. If we talking "sexiness" I swear, barely any girls liked my old m4 but sooo many girls compliment the new g80! 🐱🐱🐱🐱
@@KILLABOOBS Random girls are not the best judges of car design
7:33 What a fantastic way of demonstrating the difference between the two cars. Nice to see how powerful and effortless the G80 is in comparison to the F80 🔥
On looks alone, the F80 will always be the winner!
and Becky too
Evolve got me up at 2:30am watching this badass video 🙌🏾🙌🏾 well done team!!
This is a great video really enjoyed the split screen also very well thought out 👍🏼
Great video format, be interested in seeing more content like this
Completely get the comments on the F80 chassis, I've had more than a few heart stopping moments in my F82 and even in the dry you can sometimes struggle to get power down (and thats stock!). Confidence inspiring is not a phrase that comes to mind with the F82 and thats with fresh Michelin PSS on too.
Agree on the interior comments too, I went from a F22 to F82 and although it felt like a step-up (particularly with the much nicer door cards and carbon trim) the new G2x/G8x platform is on another level. Very much looking forward to trying to a G80/G82 and the more I see it, the more I'm liking the design and it does date the F-platform cars (even though they still look good).
Broadcast quality and very informative! Fantastic collab guys 🙌🏽
Such a great review i love how honest yet informative and enjoyable this is gonna change the way people look at the new g80
People are still going to look at it from the back
What a great video!! Both cars are amazing! Brilliant collab 👌🏼
Great video. Your comparison has been very interesting and informative. Well and truly entertaining
Awesome vid guys!! Ramadan Mubarak to the team at Evolve 🤲🏼☪️
Ramadhan Mubarak to you too brother
I enjoyed that. F80 for me, still can't get past the exterior of the new one and I actually prefer the old interior.
Great collab and wicked video!
Great video..great comparison...great dialogue and feed back!!!
Great production on this video, I like the 3 way video in real time. Looking forward to see QueenB's mods! 🤘
Thank you! Super fun videos to make, we can't wait to do more!
@@EvolveAutomotive Good to see something fresh on YT. Ramadan Kareem 🙏
@@Irvysan Ramadhan Mubarak
What a great upload I really enjoyed it 👌nice to see queen b on the channel 😀
Great comparison video, they look mega together 🔥
Thanks Joe! Everyone go watch Joe's F82 M4 vs G82 M4 on track comparison!
@@EvolveAutomotive What tyres are on Becky's car?
Unbelievable how ugly the G80 is when compared to the F80. The arches on the G80 look so deformed. The entire car looks so forced. G80 is like that girl in the corner who is trying really hard to impress someone.
@@EvolveAutomotive that was an awesome video. Interesting to note (please correct me if I am wrong) - the G80 probably because of the torque converter gearbox and the massive increase in weight shows only marginal improvements in performance to the F80 (0-100 for example). One question: why the massive weight gain BMW? This goes beyond design aesthetics (granted the G80 design makes it look like it has gained weight over the F80).
This was well done! You covered everything for someone that is interested in these cars.
Awesome video. Like this format a lot.
Yes, Imran smashing the vids, always a pleasure watching you brother. Your speech is so clear and calm, you also come across very friendly and professional. Would love to meet you some day.
Thanks brother! Glad you enjoyed it.
Squiggly and fluffy yep we got it 🤣🤣🤣👍
Lmao
Loved this video bro becky was a really good edition to the video so refreshing. ❤
Presenting is her job and she is good at it :-)
The g80 m3 feels more planted because its nearly 300kg heavier hence more usable power . I picked my f80 m3 cs over the new g80 comp based on looks abs the fact I didn’t want my car weighing 1800kg as opposed to 1500kg from the f80 which insane to say they only increased power from 450bhp to 510bhp !
The wider rubber helps too. It's kind of a secret weapon.
Really good comparison video you can really see the difference when you were both pedalling it in terms of steering input, will be interesting to see how well the G80 responds to tuning to see it it’s still as compliant 😉
Nice format to the video, good work.
Love what you both are doing, i just found Becky's channel, i think it's a absolute joy to see a female petrol head, i wish there would be more women like her tbh, also always love Imran's level of detail and depth, there is a great dynamic on this video between the 2, very relaxing and enjoyfull to watch, and important information. So greatjob guys.👍✌️👉
Getting my 2018 F80 M3 competition DCT tomorrow! Soo excited :D Hopefully it won't feel as "Unstable" as my old E90, and still provides confidence in turns.
And… what’s the verdict after 6-months!? I pick up my G80 MT next week!
Great video idea, well done both!
Imran really controls the content of the video to avoid fluff, everything is to the point well planned and a LOT of useful every day information to someone that does not have access on a daily basis to these machines... Becky knowledgable and charming. Great video guys -love it. Especially the Q and A - very thoughtful. Maybe a little something on reliability too?
7:22 lol, too good, too funny, good work team, some great comments and some quality additions to my vocab :) lol
Great vid! 👍
100% Agree on the colors are super important on the new M4, saw the Green and it was super nice, saw a White one not so much.
i really appreciate this video!
Another Great video and good to see Becky on the channel. True petrol head and fantastic driver. Suggest anyone deciding to throw some shade her way go listen/ watch the offically gassed podcast. Becky knows what shes on about. Keep up the great work. Thanks
Spectacular vid. Can’t wait for the track video on the G.
I don’t know how you created the conversation between the cars but it really worked 👍👍
Brilliant comparison video 👌👌
Great content guys and love the Becky collab, she really knows her cars!
Excellent driver and a wealth of knowledge 🙌🏻
@@EvolveAutomotive
Totally agree 👍
Hi Imran and Becky thanks for a great video. Greetings from Singapore where an M3 costs £250,000. Full respect for your impartial review and analysis. Pity about the G80 design (not just the grilles but also the overall weight gain look - no more defined flanks, wheels lost in the wheel arches, fake side vents, fake bonnet vents and distorted broken hoffmeister kink. Plus it is now the size of an E39 M5 (in my opinion the E39 is the best designed BMW to date). I just wonder what the BMW board was thinking with the G80. Surely a car that drives this well could have been more attractively designed. The departure from the classic BMW design elements is jarring. As the owner of an F80 M3 Competition I was dismayed at the looks of the G80. In my country (short distances, slow speeds, massive car prices) the way the G80 looks is a huge deterrent to purchasing unfortunately. I can attest to the F80's "dangerous" feel - however, that makes it different to so many other BMWs. I also own a pre-LCI 7 series (which I feel is better than the PCI not only in appearance (but the 7 series LCI grille is still not as abhorrent as that on the G80) but also in things like the idrive (which is really poor on the LCI). Anyway, kudos on a great channel.
This is the definitive G82 and F82 comparison. Well done to the two of you. Shout out to the amazingly dry weather that we've enjoyed in the South East over the past 6 weeks!!
Definitely blessed with the weather that day 🙌🏻 Summer is coming ☀️
Great idea for a video Becky is brilliant at her car stuff. Enjoyed
thst. 👌🏻
Having 2 people in the video adds a nice dynamic and Becky is awesome to work with.
Excellent vid
They look 🔥 together
Also, nice collab keep up the content 👌
This is the best BMW channel...keep it coming!
Great Feature - Really enjoyed this. My thoughts- I saw the new M3/M4 in the flesh at a BMW dealership- the size is physically bigger - much closer in size to the F10 M5 and its running wider front tyres than the F80... Hence it will feel better planted
I have an F82 M4 and hoped that some time next year I might be able to get the G80/82. But the size and weight of it have really turned me away from the car. Prices are really steep too, at least at present. I think I'll wait until the next gen M2 comes out as, at least to my thinking, it's more of a natural successor to the original M3s, rather than the current G80 M3 which has pretty much taken over the original M5 mantle. Btw I have always liked the looks of the new G80/82 :)
Great video. Really balanced and informed views. Best line 'It's like an M3 for dummy's'. LOL.
Great video 🔥
Imrans evolve jumper matching perfectly with the M colours on the seatbelt👏
Im confused...when becky mentions the feature on G80 holding the throttle down and then flick paddle once, then the car picks the lowest gear to snap to, the F series also does that too? as i used to have an M4, its not a new feature, even my old 435d did it. I gotta say i much prefer the ZF box when i changed to my f90 M5 over the DCT in the M4
So I must say I am not a man pig but I found myself watching Becky more than the cars. I really appreciate both perspectives! I have commented on the suspension vid with the MSS springs on my X3M Comp! I l am so excited about the G80 but I love the I drive 6 and regular tach and main gauges in the 2020 X3M's. I recently came this close to trading in my Stinger and X3M for a 19" Nardo Grey M5 and one factor was the same gauges and I drive in the 19' M5. I will miss this setup that was in few cars for a short time! I am so comfortable operating it. The new BMW I drive 7 and reverse tach are not up to Audi or Mercades as far as intuitiveness and quality IMO. I love both your input on all aspects!
She needs to clean those air vents!! LMAO
Excellent video!
Lovely content
Like the way this video was done split screen, two cars, well done 👏
The f8x platform does have the same feature where if you hold down paddle it will select the proper one
Becky your F80 should also downshift to the lowest gear unless this was introduced for comp pack?
On mine hold downshift and foot all the way to the floor and will drop to the lowest gear
Very good review 👍🏾
Great Video thank you. And I’m not even a BMW Fan. Well done
Awesome video...
F8x exterior + g8x interior is amazing in my opinion
Everything G80 but with the exterior of the F80 would be a killer combo.
@@EvolveAutomotive This review is not a fair comparison. G80 Comp should be compared to a F80 Comp.
Disagree. This is the UK launch spec of both cars. The Competition brought with it upgrades that I’m sure the G80 will get in 2-3 years.
@@EvolveAutomotive Nope the G80 in the video is the upgraded competition version of the base G80. BMW released the G80 without a Comp pack. Go compare that against the standard F80. Don't cheat. The base G80 has 480 bhp. Becky's standard non comp M3 has 425bhp that's a fair comparison.
BMW did, BMW UK did not, we can only get the Competition. At ease keyboard warrior 🙄
Great video content withe split screen and comments while driving. More of that please. Is squiggly a professional car term?
Thanks and yes it is now. We just made it a professional term 😜
Fantastic video, great collab as well👍🏼
Good job guys thanks
Great rational video from both views :-) Great stuff
Great video Imran . I also get her argument that the ZF changes quicker because it’s so seamless . I often thought this when we had a M140 in the family and I had my E92, I preferred the ZF , fabulous gearbox so I can only imagine that this is even better . Just my personal opinion .
I like Becky , comes across very well and clearly loves cars.
Have to disagree, there’s no longer a “slam it home” setting such as mode 5 on the e92 DCT. Every change is brutal which adds to the occasion and makes it super fun. Yet knock it down a few modes and it becomes nice and smooth if you want. I also find that the ZF can be slow to change right at the redline.
@@sanmarino_cs1698 I get where you’re coming from , dct in the 92 does add to the drama . I assume the software in the new G80 must be better than the conventional ZF at the red line though?.
Ross Monkhouse Well I cant speak for the G80 as such but in the F90 M5 which I’d assume is the same exact box, it Definately does it. Not sure what it is really. There’s just something a bit frustrating about the ZF, for me personally anyways 👍
@@sanmarino_cs1698 lack of connectivity and drama you’d expect in an M car perhaps 🤔?.
Does ‘Speed Yellow’ make it faster 💨... oh and Imrans giving me Bo Selecta vibes for some reason 😂😂 🤓
I love these "lets go for a drive and have a conversation" type videos
We think they work very well. Glad lots of people agree.
Watching your reviews and a few other peoples opinion on the G80 M3 a few people have mentioned the engine bay, will evaero/eventuri be redesigning the strut brace for a carbon one like in the f series?
Potentially, intake first, initial prototype is close 👀
@@EvolveAutomotive carbon strut with your carbon intakes will be a true transformation 👌
This g80 is amazing, there's alot of good going on it ! I can forgive them for the grille
Really enjoyed this video. Can’t wait to get my M3 in manual. Still at the port. Lord those glasses are bad ass send me a pair :)-
Great comparison video! Question, is there a chance that for the LCI refresh, BMW changes the front end design? Or is it here to stay for awhile?
Can’t see BMW drastically changing the design for LCI.
When you see the g80 in person your gonna change your mind
Becky, do you not have your transmission setting at lvl 3 (sport plus)? There is no way the ZF is faster than the DCT in its most aggressive setting. I have an F80CS and I drove the G80 last week and the lag on the ZF drove me nuts! I’m super confused to hear you say the opposite? Lol
Speed Yellow is a great color, have it on my F80 Competition 👍
Nice video but Becky is not spot on the transmission. The ZF is slower in shifting, quite big difference. Check new Carwow video, in rolling race downshifting the ZF looked really slow.
Your Competition pack has much better DCT software.
Amazing talk, thanks. ✌
Hey Imran it would also be good to do a fully stock F80 vs G80. I noticed her is modified - tires, wheels and suspension can really effect how the car feels around the bens.
It’s Imran. Had no suspension changes just wheels. Not the easiest to find a launch F80 that’s completely standard, plus this being Becky’s actual car she’s used to it and was a good base for the comparison.
Sorry Sir :-) Imran no worries! Great video. Totally understand! Looking forward to more videos.
Great video, good comparaison, high quality video...Ramadhan Mubarak good job.
Until I saw the birds eye view I didn’t realize how much larger the G80 is in size...
F80 for me ..
am bmw fanboy and i will go with F80 M3 evryday all day .............G80 M3 killed on me the look of bmw brand
That was a fun drive on a nice country road but you are driving on the wrong side 😂 The Yellow beast front end looks way better but love the Oxide color✌️ Let’s rumble 💪
What makes the G80's traction for superb? Can the F80 be tuned engine wise and suspension, and tire wise to match that traction of the G80?
Yes. Öhlins road and track suspension, engine map of cs or a mild stage 1, if it is mostly street use, i would not go for michelin cup2 tyres rather goodyear eagle f1 supersport or maybe michelin ps4s, and one size wider tyres front and rear. If that cannot match stock rims just go aftermarket like apex wheels. I have these mods with my m2 and it is a totally different car now.
Without knowing Becky's car, is that an earlier F80? I ask as apparently the later ones had a fair few changes made to the suspension to improve the handling. I'd be interested in a comparison with a later one or a F80 Comp.
Yes its an earlier one that has never had updated software. The later ones and especially CPs were much improved.
How does the G80 M compare to a F80 M CS?
The G80 is so well balanced and has incredible traction. It’s difficult to get the backend out on the G80, you really have to try to break the tires loose.
I love the power of the g80 but the f80 looks sooooo much sweeter agressive to me..especially with upgrades
Quality content
Solid comparison. The take away is get both 🤫 f80 & g80
the real question is fun factor, if you want straight line speed get tesla or dodge, for grip sure any AWD or mid engine will be better. M3 buyers are looking for something that you have to handle with care otherwise you could find yourself in trouble and that is beauty of it.
Want fun factor. E46 or E92 M3 are the way to go.
I currently have a GTR R35 looking to change. Would you recommend the F80?
Very different driving experiences, best advice would be go and get yourself a test drive. The F80 will have much less grip and more drama than the GTR.
Good back to back comparison.....
Why does the f80 follow the camber on the road imron?
Yes! I was waiting for this vid. I personally think the G80 is a better car all around.
Looks are always a matter of personal preference. I personally like that BMW M took the risk and changed it up. I absolutely love the color on that G80 :)
Also, great drone and side by side shots!
Will there be an F80 M3 Comp comparison with the G80 M3 Comp. Having never driven an F80 M3 without Comp pack but having test driven the G80 I wasn’t sure other than the softer suspension and obvious cabin technology / design the difference was worth the cost to change.
A few people have asked... it would be such a similar video we’re not sure if it’s worth doing but maybe. The F80 Comp improved upon the base car in many ways, but a lot of the comparisons would be the same as this video, because the underlying car is the same.
@@EvolveAutomotive I understand that and on reflection the major changes would still be the technology/interior, the ZF against the DCT and the suspension setup making the new chassis feel more accessible. Having just driven my modified F-Type SVR and the F80 Comp back to back up Hartside Pass yesterday putting the G80 against the F80 there would make a great video although you wouldn’t be able to publish it without having had the road closed.
Wow this is really surprising. It’s almost the opposite of Joe Achilles’ assessment - on the mini-track he described the F82 as being more composed. Maybe the Competition package made the difference?? Thanks for this video 💪
On Joe's video they could push both cars harder because they had a track. You can't get a full on the limit comparison on the road..
the Competition makes a massive difference
@@peterhammer6915 yeah it seems so! The competition package might be a bargain but they seem hard to finder to find than I expected
I was thinking the same about Joe Achilles video. Half throttle she was saying 😅
@@peterhammer6915 In what way?