5 BEST and WORST Value Games Workshop Kits!
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Ah yes no lord of the rings or hobbit on this list now I can tell my wife it’s completely justified to buy the $560.00 Smaug model.
Tbf MESBG has always been the best value gamewise. Minimum extra pieces and having a single infantry box that's cheaper than all the 40k and AOS troops functioning as large portion your army.
Hell Smaug is a ridiculously expensive model, but it's your entire army too. Literally not a single other purchase required.
MESBG is perfect and deserves love
@@mattylumley5538 I love you make middle earth sbg great again XD
It’s your money and your hobby you don’t need to justify shit to anyone 😂
How dare you get out of here
@@mattylumley5538 yep! 200-300 bucks and you have a huge 1000point 80 infantry units list. I mean 59 for 24 guys in sprues is pretty good
Don't forget "Literally everything on forgeworld"
I saw the title and literally wanted to comment the same thing lol
I dunno i think forgeworld is goin down the tube. Look at there site. Its so empty. I think titanicus is the only one they are going to continue too make. That and hopefully the 40k scale titans too but i dont know. No listings for them last time i looked
Damn those pretty cerastus knights and their nearly $400 price tag
_Looks at 1USD per point Krieg models_
I love forgeworld, quality cost money sometimes
"No one accidentally drops a hundo"
*drops 600 bucks on necrons 2 years ago and forgets to buy codex*
Wait 2 more years and there will be new codex.
Yeah let's not look at my tzeentch army......
@@denisgulyakin5262 that was when I started in 8th
the story of admech: 200 dollars for like a toaster with guns and it costs 5 points in game
The apocalypse box gave nearly1000 points for that price.
but yeah, the dragoon is a pain. IT's sad it's one of our best kit atm.
@@BTTFF Well, the Ballistarius is. The dragoon variant got nerfed hard recently.
Agree that the model is TERRIBLE value for money in terms of points on the table, but I think it's worth it in terms of the quality of model itself.
A better Admech candidate for this list are the Serberys raiders/ sulphurhounds. They're £35/$55 for a box of three, and are worth next to nothing on the table. If I recall they're about $1.10 for every point on the table which is even worse than the Ironstrider.
@@AllThingsCubey True, the cost per point in terrible on this one too.
@@AllThingsCubey 90 Australian dollars for the kit. Over 30 dollaridoos per model
So, The only one I disagree with here is Ephreal Stern and Kyganil, as they’re both imperium models, not Harlequin, and can be run together without breaking army rules as long as it’s imperium
By rule they *must* be run together.
@@jonhenning5930 yeah and only in an Imperium army, they make a perfect addition to a SoB army
Yeah, I was gonna say that, the unit is both of them together
Exactly, my man doesn't know his sisters lore or rules. They can't be run in an Eldar list, they are a Sisters of Battle HQ choice that must be run together or as an Agent of the Imperium.
He’s a fluff focused guy, and he’s right
I’m an Eldar player and I really wanted the kit to kitbash Kyganil, it’s really annoying that the only named harlequin can’t even be run in an Eldar army
I ended up getting him on eBay but it was still way too expensive for the tiny little model I got
As an engineer, with a lot of studies in production behind me - I felt like I had to make a comment.
The pricing is not random, far from it. The price for materials to produce a set is basically nothing. As well, one is able to produce so many, so fast - that the hourly wage of production workers can be largely ignored as well.
The thing that costs, is the design and the payment for the forms. That is why the cost seems so random. Production itself doesn't cost that much, but introducing a new model is extremely EXPENSIVE. This is a one time price, however, and has to be spread out over multiple boxes. Boxes they expect to sell a lot of, therefore have the price spread out over more (and becomes cheaper) - while boxes they expect to sell less of, will have inflated prices as they have to pay back the initial payment over less boxes. Concerning the Start collecting and Starter sets, the same happens. As well, GW is willing to accept a possible loss on these, as they believe they'll gain more from the sales of other boxes - because of them.
I'm not saying the prices are fair, or that GW doesn't take a premium to make a tonne of profit. I just felt like I wanted to explain the "randomness", as one the understand the workings of production.
Interesting points but I see a problem in their theory. By putting the price high to make more money to counter the fact they would sell less, they’re are making the models even less appealing so likely to sale even less as result. If they sold cheaper they might sell more (but less profit per model) so sometimes I think they would be better trying more reasonable prices.
E.g. if they charged 40€ for a model and made 35€ profit per model but only sold 100 models, they could try charge 35€ and might sell 150 models.
I know thats very simple maths and obviously yourself and GW would have better idea than me but I just think through retail perspective, they could try be more consumer friendly
@@dublinrambler2727 Good catch ! You're not wrong. That is, however, the case with everything you produce and sell. You want MR=MC, marginal revenue to be equal marginal cost - as then you maximise profits. As it is the case for everything, I thought it implicit and didn't want to further prolong my already long CZcams comment by including it in my earlier explanation.
At MR=MC you find the sweet spot, where lowering the price (and therefore selling more) would not yield more profit because of the costs of producing more. This is therefore dependent of the production price, which includes the initial investment, spread out over the expected amount of sold boxes. As the pr. box. production price is so low - this 2nd order polynomium (depicting MR & MC) would be basically only made up of the initial cost, the forms and design for the models.
It's a lot of explanation cramped into little space - but I hope it makes sense.
I came here to comment, that size alone doesn't justify pricing, but you put it in words much better than I would have.
People don't realize, how much work and how many people are involved in creating a product. You've got designers, sculptors, marketing, distribution and so on. They don't work for free and are doing actual work. It's not easy to just have an idea and produce it. You have to know how - that's what you're paying for (among other things).
Yeah you put it better (and with more actual experience and authority) than I could.
You can really see the design work that went into some of the "bad value" models, although Primaris Lieutenant still makes the cut.
@@sebastianmartiny2452 To be honest brutha you should make a video about this exact thing. Tons of people want to know the actual value and decision making behind GW products and I learned a bunch just from these comments. Something to consider!
I acknowledge that this list was for 40k, but the AoS Fyreslayers Start Collecting box is literally the same price as one of the models in the box along with 12 more for free
No its Not
I think you mean the Magma Dragon or so
If you Would buy it you get the Start collecting Box
No I think they mean the Magmadroth, and yeah
My Tau army has more Kroot models in it than Tau.... its not a coincidence.
It's just a shame how the tau have a lot of alien allies in it but there are only two races you can use
@@adog6495 yeah man just give us our goddamn mind control worms
@@adog6495 I'm thinking of taking some AoS medusae and converting them into Sslyths who joined the Greater Good someday. But maybe GW gives a better proposition before that happens!
Wait you can use vespids right? I'll crack my codex open when I get home.
@@TheClassicDoomGuy Yeah, Vespids are still around. Just not too good and the models... even less so.
Some of the prices for these single models are quite literally INSANE.
$35 for a single normal marine. Wow. That's not ok
“D*ck towel” - that made me laugh out loud! XD
Good to see another Always Sunny fan!
me to thats funny eh haha
I can really appreciate how much better you’ve gotten at presenting in the 2 years since this video came out
6th bad: the deathscythe Terminators from Deathguard, the gw version is 3 for 45 euro but the forgeworld version is 6 for 60 euro!! The first time forgeworld is cheaper
Wait what?
That must be a big in the matrix.
It’s almost like I feel reality trembling around me.
Was surprised that horrendous Contemptor Dread didn’t make the cut. Could have been a real fan favourite if more than two minutes had been put into the design for the single model release
Yeah same here
yah the rigor mortis pattern contemptor dreadnought is pretty bad, I tried not to pick stuff that others have already talked about.
Actually. I think that GW contemptor dreadnought was originally in the 30k Betrayal at Calth box set. And selling it separately was just a lazy afterthought.
Check out the Space Marine Hero's I think they're 50 dollars or something stupid like that
i don't mind it because you can still get other gun arms and chop/magnet them however you want.
The start collecting Thousand Sons box is superb value if you want to get into Kill team.
I’ve been wanting to get into Kill Team, thanks for the recommendation!
Removed from the website and going out of production, sadly, so get it while it’s less than the kits individually!
@EonsOfBattle
you cant play Stern without Kyganil, they also can only be played in an Imperium army, and not Harlequins army for some reason.
They arrive as one unit but afterwards act as two seperate units.
Came for this, important distinction.
Which is odd as I'm pretty sure Stern is excommunicated from the ecclesiarchy, at least in Daemonifuge the Inquisition was sending assassins after her. It would have made more sense to me to make the two of them Aeldari faction units, at least they aren't trying to kill Stern... they even invited her to the Black Library, I think she is the only human who wasn't an inquisitor to be allowed in.
@@ColCaffran Agreed, I think they wanted to make them some sort of deus ex machina for the imperial armies, atleast thats what i think it is, they see trouble, help the imperials, then dissapear, something like the legion of the damned?
@@ColCaffran This is really interesting i'm not up together on the lore at all for any 40k just the rules for her as my girlfriend happily ripped my Tau apart using those two haha
The particularly painful thing about this is, that Kyganil is in fact the only named Harlequin character model available and you cannot use him with Harlequins. Of course I found that out after having bought them... Thankfully I have sisters too but it just ruined it for me. No ambition to paint them ...
I'm pleased to see the Tzeentch box getting some recognition. It's not only a great value, but everything is usable for multiple armies which drives the value up. You can play them as a daemons or Thousand Sons army in 40k, or a Tzeentch, Chaos, or Slaves to Darkness army in AoS.
Gsc acolytes come in a box of 5 and cost a lot, but you need 100000 for a decent army haha
holy-cow I forgot about that yah that box sucks!!!
@@EonsOfBattle Probably your brain's self-defense mechanism kicking in... ;-)
The box itself has a ton of value if you can kitbash. I combined Kairic Acolyte bodies (I used the box for Tzeentch bits for 40k) and the Acolyte box. So far I have like 5 acolytes, 7 metamorphs, and a keletmorph made with spinefist bits
50$ Mek guns for sure. 1$ per 1pts is abysmal, and you need around 12 of those.
serberys raiders want to have a word
Fenrisian Wolves - $45 for 5 models at 7pts a piece or the cyber wolf - $24 for one 15pt model.
Plus side, if you get 1 Mek Gun box and a Trukk, you have enough parts there for 4 guns.
@@horuslupercal2385 Oh? Guess you gut the Trukk to give each gun an axle, wheels and some random armour?
@@trzynasty909 yep. The chassis of the Trukk can be cut to give 3 x axles. Add on miscellaneous armour panels and use the extra guns from the standard Mek Gun..... And you can build all 4 options from just 2 kits.
Im just gonna say it, try finding yourself a “Know No Fear” box, the value is insane
They’re all gooone 😭 emperor’s tricycle, whyyyyyyyyyy
Thank you so much. That's insane value for a beginner like me!
@@tomgeytenbeek2207 i bought one from a GW store 2 months ago, ask them to check in the back, you never know (or call the stores)
I gotta say this: so many Grey Knight figures, outside of one or two bits, can so easily get kitbashed from regular GK models. :)
Their paladins kit is probably the most versatile kit in the game. (captains, librarians, apothecaries...etc can all come from that box)
Yeah, I got the Assassination Squad game back when it came out because I love the assassins. That game was $150.00 and it came with: 4 Assassins, 15 Cultists, 3 Chaos Marines, 1 Chaos Sorcerer Lord and the rest of a FREAKING BOARD GAME! (Which is actually pretty fun to play on its own as a nice bonus). How they sell just the four assassins for $140.00 boggles my mind.
To me, the Primaris Lieutenant’s pose looks like he is doing a motion to charge or to start an artillery bombardment
Yeah, he's definitely issuing some kind of order
I remember my mate having the vindicar assassin 20 odd years ago, awesome model. Also the primaris lieutenant is the best primaris unit for kitbashing a primaris sized emperors champion.
And the codex. Oh the days my friend, the days.
Thank you for this info. Every time I see GW prices I feel emboldened in my quest to never give greedy corporations my money. Thanks again. Love your work!
AOS list when you're ready would be great!
Seconded!
Skaven Skryre Acolyte wins worst value, it's not even fucking close. 15 bucks per metal model and you play them in blobs of 20 or more. Skaven heroes probably some of the best value as they're 15-25 bucks each though they're all metal or finecast but their sculpts really stand the test of time.
@@corbingovers7559 Tell that to 2 new dwarf armies. 3-4 SC boxes and you have reasonably strong, almost full size armies for next to nothing compared to 40k (not counting second hand stuff). Those start collecting boxes are god send for AoS.
@@qweronot Yeah the AoS SC boxes are way better than their 40k counterparts. 3x FEC or BCR and you're done.
Really great to see you make videos again, dude!
Ephrael Stern and Kyganil are supposed to go in the same army. The rules say you have to take them together, so the whole 'Oh one of these models will always be useless' is just... incorrect.
I got the captain guy for 3$ on ebay lol
Selling the assassins as a group is a good idea actually...
I know right!
A unified price point would solve SO MANY issues trying to get people into the hobby. Having to buy large, expensive box sets to get figures at a good price is enough to get a lot of people to think twice about starting to collect Warhammer.
As a Sororitas player, I love having Kyganil. He and Stern don’t break up any rules or battle forged armies. They’re just a beastly melee hero but in two bodies
I enjoyed this video. Thank you! Looking forward to the potential AoS video in the future!
On the note of 16, when I got into the game Eldar Guardians were sold in sets of 16, without a heavy weapon platform (which was a metal addon). Now they give you 2 less sprues but with the heavy weapon thrown in. I think it was a 3rd ed. thing.
My father is a part owner and head of R&D for a company that makes injection molded plastic parts like the ones made by Games Workshop. His company is highly profitable and he knows a great deal about injection molded plastics, associated costs and profitability.
I once went to him with a box of Cadian troops and asked him how much he would sell something like that for retail considering all overhead costs and still make a good profit. He responded with "After paying the product designer, artist, 3d modeler, buying the mould, marketing, shipping and other associated costs, I could charge $20-$25 a box and still be making 50% profit if the volume sold was under 1K units a year. The profit goes way up if I can sell more than 1K a year. It goes up substantially if I don't have to remove the plastic parts from the sprue, clean and assemble them."
When I told him that GW charges $45 a box it staggered him. He said "I wish we could sell our parts for $45 a box while doing nothing but pulling them out of the injector and slapping them in the box still on the sprue... gamers are insane".
The editing, choices and commentary all show hard work, care and dedication. Great video
Speaking of value, the Grey Knights Combat Patrol looks quite appealing. A Terminator Squad, a Strike Squad (can be made into Purifiers, Purgators or Interceptors), a Librarian and a Nemesis Dreadknight (I know how you feel about that model, Jay, but the Greatsword got buffed and I’m sharing a Hexfire box with a friend, so I get two of these chonkers to bash the crap out of Chaos.) I already know that it costs £85 as every other Combat Patrol in the UK does but getting a superheavy unit along with respectable troops choices and a HQ for that price sounds good to me.
Also, it seems GW bases the pricing on how many of those units they THINK you’ll want to field e.g. Militarum Tempestus Scions and Sternguard Veterans come in the same quantity per box, which is 5, but it seems that GW thinks you’ll field more Scions in your Guard army than you would field Sternguard in your Marine army.
They will always refuse to define their exact pricing model because they would have to admit they overpriced their HQs and at most they would be half the price they ask now.
"Space Ork Boyz" used to come in a box of 16 back in the 90's (for $30! And their shootas came separate from the arms with hand grips and triggers) which is about the same time the Kroot first appeared.
They came in a box of 36!
If you want the assassins, they came together in a board game called execution force that also came with a chaos terminator lord and cultists. Last I checked, it's up for pretty reasonable prices on Ebay
You are underselling the Tzeentch box!
The Burning Chariot can be assembled as a Herald on Chariot and an Exalted Flamer on foot. But that's not all; With a bit of converting, you can also build 1 Exalted Flamer, 1 Herald on Disk and 2 more Screamers for your squad of 3.
The Space Wolves Blood Claws box is a bomb value. You get it for $2 more than the Space Wolves Pack box, and get 5 more models. You can also use them as Grey Hunters, Wolf Guard, and kitbash some decent characters if you wanted to.
(Also, you could tack on the Jump Pack box ($15) and have Skyclaws and Jump Pack Wolf Guard).
You'd also have tons of bits left over to make other minis look like Space Wolves.
Really like your channel, had to go back and watch months of vids!
Awesome!! Glad you like the videos!!
I think it's worth mentioning with the recruit and elite edition boxes, that that is the only way to get a Primaris Lieutenant or captain, and that's important if you're playing say, Iron Hands or Space Wolves, because the Primaris Lieutenant is the ONLY Primaris model capable of taking an axe weapon, chain or power. So if you're starting out and can't find any Firstborn, but wanna take those chapter relics, then that's the box for you. I'm building an Iron Hands army, and only just learned that recently.
I think the Primaris Captain from those boxes is the only captain Primaris model capable of taking shields, but that may be wrong.
Holy shit I've been out of this hobby for years and the price on those assassins is insane! The old ones didn't look a lot different and they were like £4 each or something when they came out.
I've got all the old ones from the early 2000s, I think you were right, they were about £4-5 each - in metal
I love how he says ass so much.
Just got Indomitus Recruit box thanks to this video and I couldn't have been happier. Spent a whole night sniffing that sweet sweet illustrated guide. Don't judge me.
CZcams: hey you've watched 40K stuff. Watch this video.
Me: alright sure
This guy: surprise I'm also very funny
Me: whoa cool
The iron strider is where recast would come into play... lol!
16 once was once a fairly common unit size particulary for WHFB, giving you the minimum requirement for the full rank bonus in the 6th edition. With some smaller models like Skaven and Goblins having 20 models, and larger models like Chaoswarriors having only 12.
The weirdest outlier were the WHFB Imperial Infantry, having 19 models, which comes due to the fact that the models were the 4x4 (so 16) sprues designed for the 5th edition, but instead of having metal bits for the command unit, included a character model/ command unit sprue, having 3 models.
I also have noticed a lot of people didn't know about the board game that came with all 4 assasins. You not only saved money but also got an entire game out of it. Not to mention the game is actually really fun.
Everything used to come in sixteens! Kroot are just the last standing.
Sixteen models to a box was somewhat common for WFB infantry (before AoS). Pretty sure there are still a few of those old fantasy kits still available.
I couldn't agree with you more on the assassin's & the striders. I ended up buys the spicky bits version of the assassin's for $44 & LOVE them. Also had a member of my bit bash community take the little titans you mentioned & converted them into awesome strides.
Th problem with the pricing is you pay for their rules, which can be changed realy easy, and you bought a HQ piece for 35 $ and it's rules suck.
Hi hi, I got the Exterminatus game with those four Asassins for 50€. It also includes tons of other nice models and a Chaos Sorcerer in Terminator armor !
Regarding the Kroot:
Nothing is sold in 16s *anymore*. But back when Age of Sigmar was Warhammer Fantasy Battles there were a lot of things coming in 16s. Like Elven Spearmen or Archers. A Box auf Gaunts got you 8 Terma- and 8 Hormagaunts. Eldar Guardians came in 16s too. While we are at Eldar, back then a box of Dire Avengers was a box of 10. For the same price of a box of 5 now.
Point of note, the new models for the Assassins originally came as part of the Execution Force boxed game with a bunch of Chaos models, which was a far better deal than now when they're being sold separately.
in 3. Edition a lot of standard troops came with 16 miniatures, it seems they forgot to change it with the Kroot. The orc boyz had 16 miniatures, but the boss/ special weapon sprue was missing, which it has now.
As a necron player I really felt that "5 MODELS" Thumbnail
Dude, you had me at "Robert Girly-Man". ;)
I want to point out, as an Ork player, I found the Start Collecting Orks kit is worth it's price considering the contents of the box.
The only downside to the box is the lack of an HQ option, what you get instead is about 10 Boyz 5 Nobz w/ Ammo Runt, a Painboy, and a Deff Dread.
A lot of places also these days will sell the box for 75-90 dollars, which is an INSANE deal on the models included.
However, I think they stopped making the Start Collecting Orks box, so any Ork players wanting more troops for a deal, or starting with the Orks, grab it fast.
If you can shell out the price for Start Collecting Ironjawz (fantasy Warhammer Orks), you'll get 10 Orruk 'Ardboyz, 3 Gore Gruntas, and an Orruk War Chanter
Why get the Ironjaws? with the extra bits from the Ork Boyz you can have a squad of 10 shoota boyz, 10 slugga boyz, if you don't use the big shootas from the deff dread/boyz,
you can give these to the 3 Gore Gruntas and have 3 counts as warbikers, and as for the War Chanter, with some creativity you can make yourself a Warboss out of him.
I gathered up extra bits from all my ork kits, and made him into what I jokingly call the "Musclemancer" as I made him into a very buff Weirdboy.
Currently I am trying to make a 10 ork MegaNobz squad from my extra parts, and some leftover Ork Nob bodies/parts, because I refuse to spend 65 bucks on 3 models.
(the actual MegaNobz kit, bought one mostly to have the Big Mek and some actual MegaNobz) I also was able to make the 3 MegaNob models into 4, because I took the leftover parts from the kit, and leftover extra legs from the Necromunda Ambot kits (2 models but you get the parts to make 4 complete sets of legs) and slapped an Ork Nob body on the legs, to make the Ork look like a Cybork (very fitting for a Big Mek anyways).
Tbh, this is the biggest advantage an Ork player will always have, long as you make it clear what the model is, and it fit the profile/size of the unit/model. That and the extra parts allow
for some insane conversions.
Guilliman’s probably $60 ( or £46.50 in my case ) because of the absolutely huge amount of detail on him and his base and the amount of time to make even one would mean a lot of effort and effort costs money
25 years ago I proxied a leman russ with a coffee mug. If it's just friendly games you can use anything.
Aside from screaming like you just lopped your nubbins off, great vid 👍
EoB: *uploads video*
Me: "WHERE ARE THE BASES?"
Flayed ones should be an honorable mention, 55$ MSRP for 5 tiny guys where every bit gets used, it’s like 1 sprue and I believe the most expensive $/in game point in 40k
Have to agree the Demon Start Collecting boxes are awesome...especially when you get one free from GW cause they shipped you one that someone dropped a bowling ball on...
Most of the expense is from:
1. the multi million dollar metal molds the sprues are cast in that degrade over X number of prints and need to be replaced.
2. the number of sprues in a kit. More sprues = more molds.
3. the likelyhood that the model will be sold multiple times.
A named character, or a massive expensive centrepiece will only ever be sold once to the people that collect that army, a generic character slightly more or if they play larger games or want bitz. Going down the line until you reach troops which you will need many duplicates of such as Ork Boyz, Tactical Space Marines, Guardsmen, Termagaunts etc.
An exception can be made for 5 model kits which are usually elite choices with more weapon options (sprues) So like Veteran Sterguard will have the same quantity of spues as a tactical 10 man marine box but ine will be dedicated to wargear options. (Also factor in GW sells less duplicates of elites than they do troops) Or Ork Stormboyz are only 5 but a sprue is dedicated to the massive jetpacks.
Dire Avengers for Eldar however is a perfect example of a troops choice thats only 5 models with not an overabundance of wargear options and seems like a bit of a rip off in that regard.
To have a disparity of literally $1 is a bit of a head scratcher honestly.
A lot of my favorite kits are weird in that they might not be a good value for the single mini they make but they are a good value in bits to make a bunch of ork stuff out of.
the ork dakka jet is pretty good and if you are good at magnetizing .. it's a win
This is why I got all four assasins as part of the Assasins boxed game . It came with a Chaos Lord and three other Chaos Space Marines so it was worth it just for the cost of the four assasins. Still they are expensive models.
if you can find em: they got “mystery packs” with Terminator heroes in them. $6-8 apoece for a terminator. saving big money when you can buy 5 random terminators for a max of 40 instead of a full priced terminator squad.
AoS Dryads are sold in 16 btw, difference is you can summon and replace more so the spares always have a use
It's all plastic, the production value is in the cents. It's all profit.
At the end of the day, a product’s value comes from how much the customers are willing to pay for it. Until one day the community, in unison, boycotts GW, we still have to pay exorbitant prices for their plastics.
Overlooked value: Ork Airplane kits. No matter which of the 4 variants you end up building, there are always a bunch of cool bits left over. Any proper Ork player will love the conversion opportunities this presents!
I know exactly one guy who benefits from the sister eldar hero combo, my buddy who owns an eldar army and has like 200 points of sisters of battle
The pricing structure is based on how many they sell. The cost to design in CAD is fixed. The cost to do box art, make assembly instructions is fixed. The cost to tool the factory with injection sprue blanks and CNC router mill the metal sprue is fixed. No matter how many they sell, GW pay this as a fixed flat fee. And it's a lot.
But once a line is tooled up, boxing, plastic, and instructions prints are all they need to make and these are at a cost per unit. If they run that factory injection machine for 1 hour (before they retool the line to another mini), gw then charge more per model to justify the run, but if they can tool it up and run 4 lines for 600 hours it's far cheaper in the stores. EG: starter sets.
It's THAT simple.
Dryads come in 16. You can make one a branchnymph which is the squad leader, making 1 leader and 15 troops.
For the assassins i think there is a boardgame they came in, which came with some chaos space marines and chaos hq choice for around the same price.
just picked up the command edition starter set , it’s a step above the elite edition, includes rule book and terrain ! for 150 at LGS
In no way am I talking in terms of playing, since I only paint. That said my best value list would be any necromunda gang, the blackstone fortress cultists (which I see you agree on) , any warcry or underground warbands and I feel the fomoroid crusher is also nicely priced for the great sculpt and size.
Necron warriors I imagine were an honourable mention as the worst value given how little the difference is between them and the recruit edition vs how much more you get cor the recruit box
I always find games workshop prices so ridiculous, us historic armour modellers can get entire heavy tanks for the same as single figure miniatures, you can buy a whole Tamiya aircraft carrier (that is over a metre long) for the same as those assassins
To be fair Ephrael Stern and Kyganil don't work in either a Sisters of Battle or Eldar army separately, they are a team and must be taken together and usually work better in a Space Marines army.
Don't know if they've updated the loota/burna box, but the rocket & big shoota it comes with are missing their second arms.
As a T'au player one of the things i am most pissed of about is the price of kroot compared to vespid. for 36 $ you get 16 minis with a boat load of plastic bits that you could use ina a genestealer or chaos cultist army (hell they could even work for orks) meanwhile for 45$ you get 5 finecast one part vespid the worst thing is that Vespid are one of the only infantry units with decent ap
Plastic vespids one day plz 😢
regarding the assasins sexism: Callidus assasins are lore wise neither male nor female, they are both or nothing. They are androgynous and they also kind of forget what their original gender was since they are shaping their form and muscles to another person based on the need. So it is to assume the the female looking assasin can just as likely be male but took the looks of a female person. I took that from the horus heresy book (nemesis? i think is what its called)
it's a wierd joke anyway, like why is the "female" model being cheaper a bad thing? If anything it's sexist against the guys lol
Cool thing about daemons is you can play them in aos and 40k iirc
Another good value box is the battle sister box, you can convert a cannonness and imagifier from it (thanks techpriest for the tip) getting like $100+ value for $50
For worst value the new primaris ancient box or whatever that came out last week that's just different posed intercessors for 3x the price takes the cake for me
I feel the pain with the Sydonian Dragoons/Ironstriders. I love the models but they are so bad point-per-cost and quite fiddly to build and paint. I am adding to my squads very slowly over time.
I believe a (dis)honorable mention for the Riever Lieutenant is appropriate as he gives up his Power Sword when changing from Tacticus armor into Phobos. The Riever Lt. has a cool pose but cannot take standard Riever grav chute or grapnel launcher and thus cannot keep up with the unit he is designed to lead. Oh, he is also another Primaris Lt. The model looks good but is about as useful as a third testicle.
Thanks for this video. I agree with that " Cultists of the Abyss" pick. It's good value for the 30 bucks plus tax it cost me. The latest 40k starters look to be good value too. I must point out that when the original plastic Orks came out, they were boxes of 16, I seem to remember. 98' or 99' for the Armageddon Campaign along with ol' Ghazkull in his mega-armour that recently was superceded with the latest plastic kit.
I'll have to agree with your worst picks for value , though I could add to it but hey! Just 5 now......!
Anyway, thanks again!
Great video dude!
If they halved the price of all their squad boxes I might even buy some of them.. I mainly stick to their starter boxes, game boxes and magazines when I can get my hands on them.
GW's pricing structure is indeed incomprehensible, but I don't doubt for a minute they had a couple of very clever guys working out how to maximize profits. Business is business.
Gotta say, after a while away from Games Workshop, buying 3D printed D&D models from Etsy or painting stuff from other mini-heavy games ... going back onto the GW website to look at some character model prices is HILARIOUS. I do not know why we continue to let them get away with the insane markups on some of those.
The assassins were "ok" with their game box, you get all of them + a board game + chaos terminator lord + 3 csm + 15 cultists. Discounted it was 100 euros, still a lot but now they are even more for only the 4 assassins. I think they suffered from the "for a period they were op" syndrome. If they would cost less they would sell a lot cause they are lovely miniatures to have and paint, they totally spice up any game.
totally agree, I almost bought that box but I just felt like I probably wasn't going to use $100 worth of assassins in many games.
may i suggest the company command? with 70 bucks you have a Veteran Sergeant, Company Champion, Apothecary, Standard Bearer and a Space Marine with assault weapon
I think you meant LT not sgt when talking about the recruit box ;P also so much shade on my man robute.
My local shop recommended Storm Strike as a starter kit for me to start with Warhammer universe and Stormcast Eternals paint set to get started with model painting. My knowledge of Warhammer universe was limited to "blue marines" and that one needed a ruler to play the game. So I was a bit surprised not to find any blue marines in my kit. I plan to get Nighthaunt paint set as well and then start painting it all. I don't know if AOS is a better universe than 4000 but at least it's something that I have for now. I don't know if I would like to switch to 4000 at some point but for now I just want to start painting models. At the moment I don't know if I will be able to find someone to play with (especially considering the pandemic). Maybe one will end up with different models from different universes after all..
The recruit box a few months ago is what got me to spend almost 1k USD at this point