Why Bluetooth Headphones Are Bad for GAMING
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Are wireless headphones usable for gaming? Is there a noticeable latency increase?
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Index:
0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Disclaimer
0:44 - The Candidates
1:35 - Latency Test Valorant
3:30 - Latency Test CoD
3:52 - A Big Caveat
5:25 - I Wish Bluetooth Was Better - Věda a technologie
The most interesting thing is I have been using the same Bluetooth headphones for almost 10years now and with Windows10 and previous version I didn't have this issue but today with Windows11 yeah both channels of the headphones won't work in games - which is extremely frustrating! Great video!
I dont see any reason to upgrade to WIN 11 anyways. i can just recommend to not upgrade if not extremly necessary due to a certain programm not being supported in WIN 10.
Wow 10 years how they survive😯i have akg fake headphones almost lasts for 5 months😐
Windows 11 is still new let it sink in and give some time to let it stable it's drivers and all theres no reason to upgrade for now
I don't know how well known this is, but you can actually disable the Hands Free mode in settings under 'Manage Sound Devices' in Sound Settings ( I ONLY RECCOMEND THIS IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A SEPERATE MIC)
PERSONALLY, I use the Skullcandy Crusher Evo's and the Jlab air SPORT with the hands free mode disabled, and I just have my XLR mic. Hope this helps anyone who wants to try their favorite bluetooth headphones.
Thanks man It really helped me
@@stevenle1290 I am glad it helped! yet another person saved from buying a "gaming" headset!
Can't you just select your external mic as input?
@@vladislove23 You can, however, the blue-tooth hands-off will force itself to activate anyway. It ruins the audio that your hear, and most likely the mic as well. It's very unfortunate
ive got a question. Im playing Fortnite without a mic and I have no lag. when I connect and use my wireless headphones I keep freezing at some times and ping spikes up to 500. Do you know how to fix?
Hello Techless, do you have any camera you can review ?
Love your work
So if you switch the mic the game uses to some other device, there won't be any problems ?
Great video, one question, If i get a tp-link bluethoot adapter could it fix the one way channel problem to use my eardots mic and audio?
how is the ear pads cushion quality of live 660? heard live 650 earpads cushion tears off after few months.
Checking info, because i wanna buy some wireless headphones so i was looking for bluetooh + wifi.. but today i test my jabra headphone for phone. I spare it with PC and test it.. and i dont see any delay.. bluetooth was improved so much?
nice to finally someone address the problem when I and many people are struggling with this for years and flooding the forums.... and returning headphones to stores... =S
Hey techless, can you make a monitor review of the Sceptre E248B? Its another highly rated ~$200 ips gaming monitor with a 165hz refresh rate and a 1ms response time, but some features stand out on this such as the 3000:1 contrast ratio. Please show us how it compares to other gaming monitors in this price range, and show us the color accuracy & range. Thank you!
when I play online games where mic is used to talk to teamates then sound is very bad and feels like mono audio but this does not happen when I play campaign games where mic is not used..what should I do
Buy a mic
somone know if the 660nc has low latency mode for the android app? and in that case how is the latency with that mode on? sorry nad english
Really nice video!
Hope to see more content like this 👍🏼
Thanks man!
Another amazing video! ❤️. Its the first video where i see your face and have to say that results me very familiar. I was trying to remember why, and it's because i had one friend in my school that was pretty similar to you 😂
what if the mic you recorded with had latency?
😂u have 10 iq
Thank you, I was considering purchasing the steelseries arctis 3 (Bluetooth) since I didn't want to buy a headset that could only function wirelessly on my PC, even though I purchased the airpods pro lol.
Just contradicted yourself SMH
delayed sound
in games . but watching videos on youtube works fine. any fix?
Same bud ,did you find a solution with this time passing?pls
Can someone who has already tried this help me: this is regarding the issue mentioned in 'a big caveat' section
I have known this issue for a couple of years now and thats why have always bought wired headphones for gaming, since I often get on discord while playing coop with friends. I also appreciate the much better sound quality on regular zoom / work calls on wired headphones.
However I have noticed that with a dongle based bluetooth connection the audio quality is much better. Currently I don't have any dongle based headphones so I can't try this out: Does a dongle based bluetooth allow for enough bandwidth for stereo audio + voice? or will that connection also produce similar results (mono / flat audio during calls)
Unfortunately using a bluetooth dongle doesn't change anything as this is a limitation of bluetooth itself. I actually used a pretty good bluetooth dongle for my testing btw.
@@techlessYT is the "2.4 hz low latency" thing in the second pair of headphones in the video considered a Bluetooth dongle?
I know it is an old topic, but from my experience, dongle BT (Marshall) headphones works in mono sound for me, when some old BT corsair headphones with dedicated USB transmiter works well audio wise as well as recording in the same time.
Please a follow up video with bluetooth 5,2 headphones
Which connection is better latency wise, USB or aux?
Good question. I definitely need to do some further testing!
@@techlessYT Would you update here when you have?
Okay, das Ende war sehr unerwartet. :D Like, gutes Video!
Haha war das extra so gemacht?
Natürlich 😜
@@techlessYT 😂witzig eingebaut
Great video!
wireless mouse and keybord?
So what if I used my bluetooth headphones in wired mode on my pc ?
Latency wise you're good then ✌️
@@techlessYT thanks
For gaming TWS earbuds which one is good 40ms or 50ms? Is there more difference in both? Plz rply
the difference is the latency, the lower the better
Well that explains that. It would be nice if the industry would pull their collective heads out of their butts and give us decent Bluetooth Gaming headsetsSo that I don't have to have AUS B dongle plugged in to my $2000 laptop Risking snapping it off...
3:52 This is very important information that is not very well known, thank you. I hope this changes in the future!
So will it like be for always
Or with some new technology we might get the same latency as with the wired 1s
Probably with BT 5.2 which has a default lower latency. But we will see.
Nice video bro😁
This is super nice to know!
Although I kind of wish you had gone with a wired gaming headset, just to ensure they are optimized for speed.
Thanks! There really isn't a latency difference between wired headphones unless they do some kind of weird processing, which the headphone I used definitely does not. It basically comes down to the time the electrical signal takes to travel through the wire, which is totally negligible in this scenario. So the wired headphones I used really are just as fast as the fastest gaming branded headphones in that matter.
Though I have to say that the headphone DAC makes a difference on latency. And what I used probably wasn't the fastest setup. I definitely need to do some further testing on that.
Get a bluetooth dongle that supports Aptx Low Latency and corresponding headphones that do also, that solves the latency issue and then you can disable the hands free mode in the sound control panel.
If you care enough about the sound quality and comfort advantages to headphones over headsets, the you should be willing to pay a little extra for a modmic or desk mic, and get a dongle.
Technology is sufficient enough that at the very least, a bt headset could be two bt devices. One headphones and one mic. The datarates of wireless transmissions is insane today, there is no reason it can't be done other than it hasn't. It at least wasn't when you wrote this. This is why I'm on this old but on topic video seeing if there is anything new out there. I could get into my personal issues with your suggestions, but suffice to say that I have very legitimate reasons for needing bt earbuds with mic support and not using a2dp for audio when doing so. My case is niche for a few reasons, but... Everyone should be able to put in earbuds or headphones over bt this day in time and have that ability.
If there are any suggestions for today, please let me know. I'm not opposed to a usb dongle over bt. Earbuds are pretty much a requirement. bt should still be able to do it, not doing so is a shortcoming. This particular issue well over a decade old at this point.
I just bought a jlab air buds, game sound is extremely terrible WHY?
just found it, when I disabled the mic, everything is crystal clear.
Mine hv little to no latency..
man i should upgrade i still use airpods with a bt dogle
I have a headset which has wired and wireless mode and the wireless mode has no delay when gaming i think they are very good.
what headset do you have ?
By delay you mean audio delay right?
I'm using wireless earbuds for over a year now for competitive game like Valorant, delay issue? nah hardly any difference with wired one i got 40ms latency earbuds, also i use wifi/bluetooth card on my board which gives much lower latency compare to shtty dongel.
rookie numbers, my hyperx cloud alpha wireless got around 380ms latency
Great video, I'm the 100th like! :D
I did something even better, good headphones and attach Modmic. I have Phillips Fidelio X2 HR, Mod Mic 5.
I've not seen any gaming headset that is build robust enough, and using correct materials.
most headsets will snap, and some have steel frame but have weak plastic else where so they are still bad.
Phillips Fidelio X2 HR was great value and still is, first set I've not destroyed within 1-2 years.
Phillips has a wireless version too. But this wa son sale, for a great deal, it was a no brainer, I don't mind wired. But I wish mofmic wired was more robust, the cable is too weak Imo. Somehow the long cable got ruined so I use the short one. Also wish the modmic had detachable cable directly from the mic unit, so you could swap it easily if it broke, and jus tone part. Not have a cable from the mic and then a jack. But I've not ruined it yet. I know they have a wireless modmic too.
@@mtbboy1993I have that same setup, but use the Sony M7 because they support 3d audio, but those Fidelio are robust and sound great
@@zapmando I now have Rode Podmic, Ai-1 audio interface, I had issues with the mic cable, and issues with mic 1uality dropping, seems like combo of interference from PC or broke cable or both.
I think there is must be a error about the 140ms latency of the wired headphone. This is incredibly high and shouldn't be playable at all.
I wondered for a long time why can't I make my bluetooth earphone work in multiplayer games. Today, I found the answer in one of the articles from Google. Your video confirmed it. Thaks for the info. For those who want to buy a wireless earphone for gaming, don't. Well, if you play single player games which obviously doesn't have voice chat, then it won't be a problem
Why didn't I see this before?😪😭Today I bought wireless headphone for gaming💔It's totally waste of money😭Delay sounds in the game💔😭😭😭
@@Humairaaa_251 is it still really that bad?
@@arslanrasit Yeah😥
@@Humairaaa_251i always buy Bluetooth headphones with the option to use wired as well
This is not talked about enough !!! I bought few weeks ago true wiresell earbuds for discord with boys while some gaming... And i was shocked... Headphones for 100$ and no dual way audio support :D in 2023 ...
i see you have an HE560. nice. i have an HE500 and am scared to buy a wireless headset because i may just find them crappy (SQ wise) but i really wanna go wireless. i also have the sony XM4 and i find it barely passable for music... good enough for single player gaming. but yeah the sound quality drop off is unusable when you use the mic + BT together. any recommendations with passable audio that has a boom mic for gaming?
hard to trust other reviewers as i see that they just review gaming headsets LOL.
Haha that's why I'm stuck using a external mic and my 560's for gaming. I guess I'd count something the HyperX Cloud Alpha as plausible, especially considering the price. If you're looking for something better I'd probably go for a headphone with modmic, something like the Sennheiser HD 650 or 6XX probably. Or use the HE500 with a mic :)
@@techlessYT sheesh. So they are all bad? Haha. Good thing. I almost spent 200 bucks on something I'd hate.
Haven't tested them all 🤣
@@techlessYT LOL. Guess I'll just use my XM4s when I wanna go wireless then while using the mic on my laptop. LOL.
But seriously... Your video saved me 200 bucks.
Would love to use true wireless earbuds with the latency of a wired headset
Meanwhile I agree that no one should play with Hands Free mode, would be interesting to see, if the BT latency have been changed. Because, I am sure, there some gamers that play that way :P
Thanks for the video!
I've just built a pc and realised this problem. I have 2 wireless headsets which are practically useless one being a Microsoft wireless xbox headset. Now it looks like I'll need to revert to some old turtle beach wired ones. How stupid. Lol
I got some bluetooth earbuds for free, skullcandy mod xt. When I used it when playing some games, the sound delay made the experience unbearable. I can't play when the sound has an almost 1 second delay. yeah stay away from bluetooth audio anything when it comes to gaming or watching videos.
thanks
Audeze Maxwell fixed issues with delay it's perfect gaming headset :D
im wearing some right now and the delay is horrible
I have to disagree that wireless headphones are bad for gaming. I am using Sennheiser HB350bt with low latency frequency on my PC for gaming, and I can tell you it could save your life if you're surrounded by cables or other wired devices. It very much helps when it comes to gaming to feel your head free from the cables around you without thinking about these overwhelming you. So, no, I do not think wireless gaming is a bad thing.
Terrible title as I think the question has a very obvious answer but great video.
Nothing beats wired sound quality. Bluetooth sounds like audio is comming from an empty trash can no matter the price point even bose wireless. Plugin for some reason always sounds better.
In short: Online, competitive gaming with voice chat? No. Single player? Depends.
I use Sony's WH-1000XM3's in wireless mode on a Win 10 laptop and they're perfectly fine for my untrained ears. The ANC makes up for any sound imperfections, and I really need that ANC. I could go wired and keep the ANC, but once I tasted the freedom of wireless I don't want to go back.
What games do u play with the WH-1000XM3'S? I recently got the JBL 660 live like this vid and had noticeable delay. Look at getting the Song WH-1000XM4's but wondering if the delay will be the same.
@@d3cent557 I play singleplayer games exclusively, but not exclusively one game. Latest ones were Pathfinder WOTR, Archolos (mod for Gothic 2) and Witcher 3. There is noticeable delay when I compare it side to side with wired speakers/heaphones, but I just tune it out honestly. The comfort of having wireless heaphones with great ANC wins over any latecy issues. As for WH-1000XM4 delay will be the same or similar. It's still Bluetooth, not a dedicated wireless connection. Only aptX LL/Adaptive has lower latency, but for LL you need a dedicated transmitter (you can buy bluetooth audio dongles which support it) and Adaptive is basicaly dead when it comes to transmitters. Remember also that WH-1000XM4 supports only SBC, AAC and LDAC codecs. In theory AAC should be supported by Windows 10/11 now, but you might be defaulted to SBC (which isn't terrible, but it does have a bit higher latency than aptX).
@@MrLoneWoof would you recommend a Sony xm3 or xm4 for gaming?
@@datdus5524 Only if you need the ANC and you have no personal problems with latency.
Man merkt er ist deutscher xD
Or you don't have any friends to chat with..???😂😂😂😂
Wake up babe, techless uploaded a new video
ur sound so many clicking of ur tongue
Get bluetooth 5.0, latency is 50ms at worst, title should say Why THIS bluetooth headphone is bad for gaming....
Well it is a Bluetooth 5.0 headphone and I used a 5.0 dongle.