Silicon Bites - Episode #50 - Putin's Little Helpers and the Spreaders of Myths, Lies and Deceptions
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- Edition No50 | 26-06-2024
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I've always viewed Farage as grifter, so was not surprised to hear him spouting Russian talking points like a Kremlin fanboy. Hopefully this will alienate a section of his supporters, those that are on board with Farage's nationalist agenda, yet do not support Russia - this will be a real turn off for said group.
Hopefully this logical argument will extend to all democracies,
I hope so, but Farage seems to be able to draw support from people who he would do nothing for if he ever came to power.
Here in America, observing some people I considered not dumb, have been zombified by pro-Putin MAGA propaganda to such extent it is sad and surreal. One can only hope the Brits on the Right were more rational and not as poisoned by Russian propaganda.
Brexit was clearly a ruZZian Psy Ops
It is alienating. The split in the nationalist comunities in Europe and the former settled colonies over the ru aggression against Ukraine in 2014 was bad, and was even worse over the one in 2022. I have nationalist acquaintances that fought on both sides. In general, those that believe in nationalism for all support the attacked and those that are 'nationalists' because they hate the left, are failing in life, hate their own societies or are simply imperialist revanshists are listening to shalow ruZ drivel delivered from shills, and work for the benefit of the ruZ. In general, the "nationalism for all" believers are more successful and are the old European ethnonationalists. The failed, the dim, the emotional and the more americanised are mostly pro-ru. The leaders, on the other hand, are a different matter. The ethnonationalists are largely suppressed everywhere as they are actively suppressed by the left establishment and the ru paid shills, thus the 'nationalist leaders' that are left are most mostly shills whose survival, and prosperity is heavily subsidised by the ru.
I actually think Tucker’s interview unintentionally helped support the argument that Putin would have invaded Ukraine regardless of any actions of NATO or the EU, as it confirmed that Putin never believed that Ukraine was a sovereign state in the first place.
That wasn't the first time we heard that, though. We've heard it from him for decade and a half. We've even heard Trump parrot the same line when he was in office.
For me, the highlight of that interview was Putin defending Hitler's invasion of Poland.
Not Stalin's. Hitler's.
@@henriikkak2091 To be fair to Putin's [odd] way of seeing things .. didn't Poland "provoke" Nazi Germany by seeking a military alliance with the UK?
Tucker fans can’t comprehend such things.
@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 Putin should be arrested in Russia for this, as it is formally forbidden to justify Nazism there :D
Well, not the only thing he should go behind bars for under Russian law.
I wouldn't feel like a "Putin helper," but for a long time I cooled down critics that they were exaggerating. It was the meetings with Putin supporters that changed me -- I verified what they were saying, and time and again it came out that they were repeating Russian propaganda, and that this propaganda consisted of nothing but brazen lies. I will agree that this may be the case, but I'm afraid it doesn't work that way on most.
Farage paid huge sums by RT for 17 episodes
Here in the US we have many aligned with Putin. Far too many. Makes me want to summon the ghost of senator McCarthy and resurrect the House Un-American Activities Committee.
@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 McCarthy? Yikes! You must be feeling desperate.
@@allo-otherdesperate times call for desperate measures. Remember : dont ask how someone else got to where we are, but what did you do to get here ?, - we are all part of this problem ! Provocation ? If you tell a thief you are going to start locking your car next week, and he steals it the next day, did you provoke him ?
17 Episodes of what?
@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531But, Joe McCarthy like MAGA today, was just using a boogeyman as a political tool rather than genuine concern for national security. But I get what you mean.
Fromage is not only crazy but also dangerous. He should move to Hungary 🇭🇺 permanently.
Perhaps he and Trump could share a flat there?
Fromage 🧀 is getting stinkier day by day 🤣
HIs wife should have her visa cancelled for a start
@@TheopolisQSmith TDS is a real thing . 🤒🤕
Crazy and dangerous, yes, but that's an insult to cheese.
Again, if Nato was a genuine danger to RuZZia, why has Pootin stripped his bases bordering Nato countries of their manpower and equipment?
Russia has been a danger to and an invader of Ukraine and some NATO countries throughout a lot of history, far before there ever was a NATO.
This is actually something all Russian people should be informed about! It would expose the constant lying and fearmongering about NATO. Also it would tell Russian's that they sure aren't invincible, when it takes EVERYTHING Russia has - to FAIL in Ukraine!
A pertinent question and logical to ask.✌️
Congrats on Episode 50!
So grateful for this channel.
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Trump & Farage have had their day .... IMO ,
Elections in July & November will decide and I have (postal) voted already to the party with the best track record SUPPORTING UKRAINE
thank you so much for keeping these things clear. Truth is the first casualty of war. I feel so sorry for the brave Ukrainians. It adds insult to injury to hear these people lie about the reasons behind blind, murderous aggression. Ethnic cleansing. So sad.
I am from the US, but I did just unsubbed both Guardian channels I used to watch. If enough of us do this: voting with our euros or dollars, that will send its' own message.
The Guardian has some great journalists- like Luke Harding. But it also nurtures some absolutely misguided people like Mark Dejevsky and Simon Jenkins. I’m subscribed, but pick very carefully what I choose to read, and what to ignore.
“The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history”
George Orwell
Another masterful tour d'horizon. Thumbs up.
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Thank you, Jonathan for another amazing episode ! Extremely important topic! 👍👍👏👏💙💛❤️❤️❤️
50th ! Congrats 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 ..And thank you !
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You’re doing a great job! Thank you.
Fartrage is *Just That Stupid* one explanation for his actions. Like MTG and Drump.
Unfortunately, he's much brighter than those two (not difficult) ------------------ which makes him dangerous.
@@allo-other You just asserted that humans in general are dangerous -- which is probably true.
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Unhealthy humans with personality disorders are dangerous, and there's no shortage of them in Politics
Fantastic! Thank you for all you do to delve behind headlines to expose russian narratives-and the facts of events! Very grateful for the hard work you put into each Silicon Bites episode, even the wonderful illustrations, some of which depict sad scenes but are useful and very well done!
You’ve just missed George Galloway spouting on about how great Putin is 😮
Indeed I did! There’s no ambiguity with him though - he 100% a paid Kremlin asset.
@@SiliconCurtain yes he is.
@@SiliconCurtainAn obviously defamatory lie by you, Jon. Why isn't sticking to plain truth good enough for you? Or present verifiable supporting evidence against Galloway. (Just as I _demand_ evidence from Galloway when he says that the Russian atrocities in Bucha were all committed by Ukrainian fascists.)
We need to protect Ukraine🇺🇦, not lie in order to hate Russia more. It's Ukrainians who suffer. Their lives and families matter, you know.
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One of many Rotten Apples in the basket.
100% agree with everything you said. The arrogance and ignorance of Ferage, Trump and those mentioned is sad and makes me angry.
Thanks
Very good truthful analysis, thank you
Very well said. Poor western journalism as well as grifters and people that genuinely believe that some people are greater than others through the concept of spheres of influence are Russia's greatest allies, likely being just as important to the Kremlin as its nuclear arsenal - they both play a significant role in deterring timely aid. And while I don't expect right-wingers, especially older ones to be against the idea of spheres of influence, the sheer hypocrisy from so-called "leftists" on this topic has been sickening.
Thanks for those fascinating insights. There is nothing I can add.
Thank you for your coverage and insights
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Only a politician who's a fool wouldn't be able to read the room so Farage throwing shade to Putin means he's either a fool or he's indebted. I don't think he's a fool.
There was a picture showing Russian anti-missile debris on the Crimean beach.
That update came out after I recorded this, unfortunately.
By the way Konstantin had very good comments from Medvedev in telegram..
We remember Oswald Mosley, and Farage is just another disgusting example of his ilk.
Thanks,Jonathan, for this illuminating yet depressing coverage of self serving liars whose deception has cost so many Ukranian lives. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Your points are a good reason why people need to present their positions as clearly as possible . A people’s existence is at stake . A bit of lead poisoning here and there ought to be expected .
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
@26.02 - There is further context to this story. It seems that the Ukrainian missile was not intercepted, a missile from a TOR M2 system was fired to intercept a Ukrainian missile and missed and then self-destructed showering shrapnel all over the beach. So it seems like russian air defence were to blame.
I see - so it’s even worse in light of the entire lack of western media immediately labelling it a Ukrainian missile’
@@SiliconCurtain Unfortunately western media are not very stringent with fact checking these days and just run with whatever story that they're given.
Can you cite your source. I have watched videos and have some doubt that it is shrapnel. There is smoke clouds seen at impact points which would not be expected with shrapnel. Look at the impact near lifeguard tower and you see black smoke.
Where is the story found?
Wow 50 great episodes that's great. I do wish I was watching you for other information though. I'll be happy to see the need for your channel to go away, nothing personal. Congratulations
❤ Thanks Jonathan. Slava Ukraini!
Thank you Jonathan! Always delighted (and terrified) by listening to your channel, indeed. I like your bites just as much as all the brilliant interviews!
Looks like the number of useful idiots are increasing as well as their exposure within the information space. Some don't even know they belong to the category. And that makes them an even greater threat.
Have to say I really liked your "around the table" with Jake, Vlad and Anna! Great stuff!
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100% correct again @Silicon Curtain - Jonathan.
He should move to Russia.
He’s love it… 😊
Thank you, Jonathan, for another excellent episode of Silicon Bites. Very much appreciated.
🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
I contacted Reform on multiple occasions, asking what their position was regarding support for Ukraine.
I never received even an acknowledgement, never mind a reply.
Confirmation enough as to where they stand & thus I actively work to oppose them.
It’s disgusting reputable publications give David Sachs a platform. What is The Economist’s excuse for giving this transparently disingenuous agent a microphone?
If we were such a threat to Russia, why did we save so much on military spending the last decades? Why did we get ourselves so dependent on Russian gas in Europe? Why is it so difficult to get enough ammunition together to help Ukraine? If we were planning to attack Russia, why were we so poorly prepared for a war? If any politician these days want media attention all they have to do is show sympathy for Putin and understanding for Russia's point of view. How to get yourself in the headlines in one easy lesson.
Great video, thanks you so much for the good job you are doing !
Thank you.
Thank you Jonathan🫡, I appreciate your calm, methodically, and evidence based approach when you approach certain news & their authors, & how the only reasonable position anyone could have is to support Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Respectfully, Grace🩰
#СлаваУкраїні #ГероямСлава 🇺🇦🫡🇺🇦
I like the treatment of the photographic illustrations except for the untreated pic of Putler
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Thank you
Thank you for the informative and passionate briefing!
Well put Jonathan, excellent as always.
Great program a lot of information, thank you very much for your work.
Thanks for the information.
🔱Heroyam Slava🔱
Great job!
I want to be an "International Expert," so I can write stupid stuff, and get paid.
Thanks for your great podcasts, Jonathan. Very much appreciated.
Even the Guardian keeps referring to "Kyiv", rathe than Ukraine
As if there is a Moscow?Kremlin type regime incharge
Before the war in Ukraine I would say NATO was no danger to Russia, due to the war and the new members to NATO(I assume Ukraine will also join when they win) they will have unsolved issues with at least 2 members(a bit unsure about a few if they have come to terms with the past or still see it as an issue). Georgia will probably follow into NATO and maybe Moldova so there will be many countries with issues or unsolved ones. My point is that if the Kremlin never wanted to make NATO into an hostile alliance they should have stopped poking their neighbors because soon there will be a voice that won't be so Muscovia friendly and who knows, maybe the new goal really becomes to tear down the Kremlin from within for it never to rise again.
Its like USA that feared the influence of Soviet "communism"(wouldn't call it communism, their system reminds me more of a parasite or a leech) for so long that now they have a president candidate parroting the leader of the thing they feared that would spread to them. Same with the Kremlin, they have been shouting about NATO so much so that they scared everyone into NATO feeling nothing but negative things about them...
Nicely said. I often have this impression that most people I know act like LLMs (e.g., like ChatGPT) -- they learn popular juxtapositions of words and narratives, so if someone says "Russia was surrounded by NATO," says it a second or third time, they learn to repeat it and don't even try to verify it for what it is.
Appreciated the juxtaposition of the sad images from Ukraine with the debunking.
100% agree
So much respect for your tireless work fella.. Ukraine will win
Thinking should always prevail over emotions and you guys are really helping.
Thanks!
Interesting that the cemeteries for the Wagner PMC fighters were paved over almost right away after Prigozhin died ?
Stop the boats.
#Reform #2024
You have very good content. Your up there with all the Ukraine utube community and we love your multiple videos
Stellar work as always thank you for your hard work!
I really enjoyed your poised take on this very difficult topic which angers me beyond imagination. It's very soothing for me. I watch very often Gerdes's videos for the same reasons.
Thank you, Jonathan!
Thx for this true full and honest video.
Farage got his start in politics with a loan from a Rusia backed banker. There areany of these in France, Germany and of course London. I always wonder why you hear about these things but no one seems to care. Brexit has kicked Britain to it's knees and Farage says he would have done it better. Indeed he would have: Britain would be on it's back
Very helpful. Well argued!
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Allowing naZi propaganda was a huge mistake. Now examples will have to be made.
I am a Bulgarian. I remember that we joined NATO in order to prevent what Ukraine is currently dealing with. It seems that according to farage we did not join but were somehow joined in a brutish, expansionist manner. I don't understand him :-/
GBNews has become a receptacle, carrier and spreader of Russian talking points - it almost acts like a subsidiary of RT with Farage having a regular slot.
J. Sachs has an interesting early years philosophy as well, then he found the sweet spot to sell books, and now...
There is a difference between acknowledging a point of view and agreeing with it. Putin and his Kremlin entourage feeling threatened by the choices neighbouring countries made, did not give them the right to invade them. Putin & co should have put themselves under scrutiny, wondering why the neighbours made the choices they made. That's what responsible grown-ups do in a civilised society.
Obvious how Brexit and Moscow praise go hand in hand.
I once wrote Falange by mistake, but didn't correct it.
I've long known that Glenn Greenwald has gone to the dark side, but I hadn't heard that Jeffrey Sachs that also gone that way. Sad. Scott Ritter, too, has curdled.
Their disgust for their own country's errors (Iraq, Central America etc) has led to blind allegiance with traditional foes.
Money corrupts absolutely.
As well as pulling equipment from Finland, putler is also NOT providing air defence for oil producers. He actually told them get their own defense. But there is none available in russia that is not military, which they can't get. Some of them resorted to creating "cope nets" around facilities and resorting to KGB priests for blessings (great picture).
rus getting NKorean "helpers" is good for Ukraine in some ways. It opened the door for the US allowing US contractors to work in Ukraine. The US will probably extend it's permission to fire into russia. Yes, "bad case" it will have to deal with "fresh meat" attacks. Worse case is that Kim actually sends well trained and equiped troops. (How likely? I don't know.)
People don't understand the concept that russia wants to, and is able to make countries "disappear" from the map. Russians invaded Poland and made it disappear twice in it's 1000 year history. So, it happening to Ukraine is entirely within the realm of possibility if Europe and US don't keep on objecting!
Not having large concentrations of troops will not stop putler from using a tactical nuke. At that point he will not be logical, or tactical. He will be losing and vengeful. If he is pushed to using one HE WILL USE IT ON a CIVILIAN POPULATION. Kyiv or one of the other largest cities. Maybe Lviv on the very west end of Ukraine, so the fallout would hit Europe/Poland.
Ukraine hitting SU-57's on the ground proves nothing about the capability, or vulnerability of the aircraft. They got luck
Putin is a guy that arrived in a four cylinder with a wife and kids then found himself running the whole shooting match
If EU and NATO expansion eastward makes Russia vulnerable, then why does Farage not urge Britain to reconquer Ireland for its continued membership of the EU while we are out of it?
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Will russia be able to keep up their payments to these traitors given that the sanctions are now starting to drain pockets? The African land grab by russia will provide some $, but will that be USD or crypto currency only?
Thanks for the great content!
The powercuts here make it hard to keep up with it :)
I can't believe that the clown is not blamed for brexit and running away..Or is that now considered a success in the UK? 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦
I don’t think the BBC has covered all of this. I would love to be contradicted
People are misreading Trump. Personal appeal is a classic American business negotiating tactic that Trump has been practicing most of his life. It doesn't necessarily always translate well to diplomatic geopolitics and can result in ridiculous hilarity like the, "Kim Jong-Un and I fell in love with each other" episode. You can't take it at face value. It's part of a negotiating tactic.
Good update, one point: Comparing Ukraine and Israel puts Ukraine in a bad light and is not fair. In modern times (I.e. after WW2), Ukraine never annexed neighbours territory, they never illegally settled on land they didn't own, they didn't restrict the development of some of their neighbours and the list goes on. So please do not compare what is a "black and white" conflict with one which is very complex.
Trouble is there will be people who will vote for him based on those comments. Don’t think they’ll be listening to your wonderful programs
Follow the money!
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As usual, top quality, both in content and visually. But when are you going to acknowledge your pixel artists ? I particularly loved the introduction of pointillism amongst the images.
The tragedy of Brexit SMH they got a lot of the job done and now they're running for the exits to rebrand as refuks and try again.
Farage is incredibly good at dissonance.
Heroyam Slava 🇬🇧
That sounds likely. Doesn’t have to be direct payments
European countries need a counter policy in advance of a possible withdrawal of US support in November. 0ne measure could be to donate a percentage of their defence budgets directly to Ukraine. For example, in the case of UK billions disappear into joint military projects with the US for no discernable benefit. I'm sure Ukraine could develope a more reliable delivery system for our nuclear deterrent. This reallocation of funds might encourage the US to continue its support Ukraine.
GB news should offload Farage if they want to survive,get rid of him.
If only Tucker Carlson knew that the term "useful idiot" was coined by Lenin - A RUSSIAN - to describe foreign apologists for Russia.