6 Things That Make The BMW M2 A Modern Day E36 M3
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The E36 M3 and M2 might be different on paper, but get under their skins and you quickly realise that they’re cut from the same cloth!
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The BMW M2, it's the real BMW M3 you always wanted!
what happened to 2 guys 1 car
Fat Nan Yes :-;
they end up like 2 girls and 1 cup
Fat Nan
I agree. And also readers rides!!!
+polentusmax lol
Don't worry, there will be moar!
My neighbour has an E36 M3 and it never moves...I'm starting to see why...
It's most likely that he has a E92 M3 but still...
You live across from me? lol
@A M what do you mean mate? Can you elaborate? Im thinking of buying an e36 M3 here in England. Cheers
guarantee butt cringe at 5:55 thank me later
You still dont get it ?
Every one can buy new car and drive.
Only some can keep running old cars.
Zuze91 👍
Zuze91 L
Everyone can buy a new car, as long as they have money.
You don't get this video/person?
Neroxen nop
shots fired 6:30
Check your E36's Engine Mounts. My Z3M destroyed my Radiator when my fan hit it.
Jethro Vitorio Scultor z3s are ugly asf
my e30 also destroyed its fan because of engine mounts
Yeah, check the engine mounts. A guy on the E39 forums just blew apart his fan, radiator, and severed a power steering line when his engine mount failed under hard acceleration (02 540i)
Jethro Vitorio Scultor I money-shifted during a race when mine broke. Went for 5th, got 3rd instead. Unpleasant noises ensued.
i laughed so hard , because that happened to me LOL
all this show taught is that if you want an E36 M3 I have to get a sponsor
( Long text ahead) Or do what my guys in the garage did to my brothers E36, pull out the engine, gearbox, the entire electrical system and the suspension, brakes and steering.
Once that is done you take apart the engine and gearbox, clean it up, replace worn out parts, new gaskets and put it back together. Once that is done you replace the suspension setup with coil overs and other fun stuff, put in new brakes, a new driveshaft and then tighten up the steering with racing spec sway bars and "stuff".
Then you rip out all the interior, the entire dashboard and everything else until it's bare metal.
Then you put in two race seats, a roll cage and thin "sound proofing" that doesn't work really and install only the bare minimum. You put in a speedometer from a motorcycle (because why not) and make a 50 cm long, completely open exhaust that ends behind the front wheels.
And to top things off you get your hands of a turbo kit. You take the engine out AGAIN and replace a shit ton of parts, install a turbo and intercooler, new cam and lots of other stuff.
Now about 4 years should have passed. You finally start it. Run a dyno run. Get the result, 789 hp on the rear wheels.
You call your brother, say it's done. He comes over. Everyone is happy.
Six months later you flip the car and roll it seven times. It burns down completely. Sigh.
That's how you own a E36.
Viking88 Cool story but that sounds a bit too detailed. Did this actually happen?
Miguel Martins
Yes haha it did happen I'm afraid. We had been racing it the entire summer 2013 when it was finally done, I took the wheel and at a little over 190km/h I lost control and off into the potato field I went. Didn't get hurt but all that work just gone.
Since it was my fault I gave my brother my Nissan 200sx as a "I'm sorry" gift. The life of a car person...
The e36 sure is better looking. There is beauty in simplicity that's for sure.
Sometimes bad motor mounts will make the fan contact something when the engine revs quickly. Check the motor mounts, then do an electric fan conversion. :)
Old BMW's sound so good and have tons of character that the new one's just lack
But they break down a lot, rust, feel pretty sluggish handling and consume loads of fuel compared to newer cars. However the looks and the sound remains mint.
That's why they are ment to be owned by people who are sensible and have money to keep them running and most of all use them only for joy riding, not putting insane amount of miles every day. That's why we have newer cars. Classics are ment to be cherished and preserved and not owned by a poor teenager who can't even afford to change the oil..
Jones Nobs My E30 has never broken down in the 4 years that I've owned it and it handles better than any other car I've ever driven because it's under 3000 lbs and if I didn't hoon around in it, I could easily get +30 mpg in that thing. Yeah sure it has a little rust underneath but it's also over 30 years old I don't think any car goes that long without a little rust unless it's never driven.
Mike Hunt that's luck for you... It sure doesn't mean every old BMW is at the end of it's life, but 70% of them are in front of a major engine overhaul. And if you aren't somone with a deep wallet you should stay the heck away from buying them. Even your car may serve you well now and IF you would sell it to another guy, he might be in line for a serious rebuild after a year of ownership. You never really know when it is going to hit you. The only real thing before purchasing that you could do is listen to the engine and go for a test drive, but that will only tell you if something is seriously wrong right now.
I agree they are very good cars when they work, but my goal is to warn young people of getting into too deep money pit and then ending without a driving car and money.
I know how it feels because I was the one who always thought, Oh it's not gonna happen to me I'm gonna get a good runner, this car looks good sounds good, the owner showed me service history.. 9/10 times i got F**ed!
If daddy pays then I wouldn't worry.. But if it's a student's budget, then you're gonna go broke.
Mike Hunt Cool story. But the regulations and fuel economy in the US is seen as a joke in Europe. I know my E46 has cost me loads of random spare parts and maintenance. Rust in the front fenders, rust in the trunk, rust in the bonnet, snapped drive shaft twice, collapsed rear suspension, broken air intake regulator etc. And the mileage is only around 120k miles.. buying the car is usually the easy part. Keeping it running will cost you, especially if you are modifying it as well.
I'm glad he announces whenever the BOTB part is coming, I can just stop the video right there and then.
I like the E36 better... The M2 is more like an E46.. It's a cool and very good car, but for me, it's just not the right car.
Whereas the E36 just is... And I only have a 328i, couldn't even think what I'd do with a 100 more hp :')
Thanks bro! :)
Mythbuster
E46 ftw
Loving the E36 series can't wait every time one gets uploaded
Love George Peck's filming!
Regan Cooper So do I
now kiss
+Regan Cooper How much did he have to pay you?
I love you car throttle
+Car Throttle nothing at all - long term fan! ;-)
The E36 is my favorite sounding M3, which is why I love the sound of the M2.
That Blue song towards the end bought back so much memories.
Vietnam flashbacks?
Hi Alex
I have owned my E36 M3 Evo for just under 10 years now and have never had any probs with the viscous (touch wood)
HOWEVER here is list of some of the main parts i have had to replace so far:
Clutch
Radiator
Waterpump
Thermostat
Vanos Seals & Gaskets (+ resouldering solenoids)
Throttle cable
Throttle Position Sensor
3 Perished hoses under intake manifold
Constant pressure valve
Propshaft coupling
Propshaft centre support bearing
Shocks all round (due to leakage)
Sway bar end links
Numerous bushes
that's just off the top of my head so ENJOY!.
Great content CT, like how the info was delivered with the fan humor... ps: hope nothing else goes bad.
You gotta love that intro of Colin in beginning of each video ! Great Video Guys :D
Great video, I thoroughly enjoyed that, very well put together.
In video about m2 in top gear they went to same conclusion and I think it was the best part in new TG.
You should convert the E36 to an electric fan instead of Fan Clutch. DIY available online. I think Mishimoto has a conversion kit. You have a great car in the best color posible! Enjoy it!
Love this video. Owning a e36 M3 this makes the M2 my new dreamcar.
Huge fan of the M2, its small and relevantly practical. And and and fast!
Run a diesel fan on it. It has a ring around it that holds the blades together better. I had the same problem with my E36.
Quick question for Alex: If I was to swap in the e46 motor in the e36, would I have less problems engine wise?
How do you do a burnout in a manual? I mean how do you release the clutch, brake and apply gas at the same time?
Your little song was fantastic, i feel the same, i bought a Celica GT4. I should have bought a 2000> Impreza instead.
seeing an e36 allways makes my eyes water! i love them i own my second one
question cause i haven't found a lot of info with forums on this, the cable throttle adjustment on the m3 e36? How do I tighten it?
a buddy of mine had the same fan problem. He went through a dew fans before we realized he had bad transmission mount causing the whole engine to move forward under braking and hitting the couling.
You said it yourself AGAIN!!! Get the bloody E46 M3... or at least in the meantime a Z3 short shifter for the E36. I have it in my E36 and it's great!!
Does the OAF on the numberplate mean Old As Fuck? lol
1:26 "everything has been ETHAN" LUL
on my e30 my fan was eaten in the same way by that surrounding plastic (which is about 10e, used one). but it happened while i was driving with a loud music so i did not notice until my temp went high and steam came out of the hood :( so all in all... new head (old was bent)...
loving the new content :) tho i think we could get just a tad more alex for that little bit more entertainment
lol the mighty Lada
Favourite kind of humour, honestly.
I used the have the suicide clutch fan problem too, went through three before I converted to electric fans
Never had these problems with my E36 M3 Saloon an its been a good couple of years now. only had to change the door actuators.. you look after her, she looks after you.
You should talk about the saab 900 turbo spg aero pre gm and Why should u Buy one
I love you car throttle, I really do. My one complaint though, is that you should get with the times and ditch the bhp numbers for whp. Regardless, I still love you.
Love your song! you should sign more. I am making it my ringtone lol
happened to me before on m54b30 engine, it was viscous coupling itself, you will have to change all that, not only fan, and go for genuine part
My (Euro) E36 M3 3.2 have been 100% problem free since I bought it well over a year ago.
It`s a great car. Still happy I bought it over an E46 M3. The E46 M3 has its issues and faults too. Some really bad/expensive ones (subframe, differential, certain potential engine issues, etc..) most of which the E36 M3 owners don`t need to worry about. Sorry to see how unlucky you have been with your E36 though. I have owned three different E36 models. Not many issues at all. Great cars in my experience. I hope things get better for you in future and the we get to see some E36 love. :)
Alex, I know you had other E36's too, how were those compared to Collin, reliability wise?
Do an electric fan conversion. I'm in the process of doing one on my e36 m3 right now because that fan coming apart is a known issue
For the fan constantly breaking check your motor mounts because it may be tilting too far forward
one of your engine mounts has become detached. when you revved the engine while stationary, it rotated on the one still attached mount moving your viscous fan into the shroud thus eating it
change both engine mounts, gearbox mounts and probably the center diff bushing and it should feel excellent!
That viscous fan was more if an added levelIf safety against over heating, with a good cooling system (no old brittle parts) and a proper working front fan it shouldnt be an issue.
Also BMW's have always been known for having long throw transmissions, kind of a nature of the beast.
Nice vid bro
put the diesel fan blades on the e36. less blades, less blade pitch, and the blade tips have a support ring around them
This isn't to mock, I'm actually saying this to thank you. Since watching this series, I've decided to buy a E46 M3. For multitude of reasons, but reliability and maintenance costs being the biggest ones. Best of luck with your E36 adventures... I hope it gets better at some point.
best sounding straight six for me is the 1jz
Nice car. What's the retail on one of those?
time for an elec fan mate! We all had to get there at some point.
if i ever buy a bemer it will be either an e39 m5 or an e46 m3 those 2 cars are to me the ultimate incarnation of their respective models
I do love the old beemers.
i love the intro to e36 videos..
e36 m3 ftw. i still want one and will buy within next fall. old cars need love and when they have everything fixed, theres something nostalgic and magical about them and ive sold my e92 m3 and e46 m3 because i got bored. e36 m3 is next.. hopefully she won't be as unlucky as Colin.
plz update us on ur purchase
like the new shoes alex!
I like those shoes you are wearing. What are they?
lol. i feel the pain. the problem is magnified by the fact that usa didn't get the euro spec m3 meaning less availability of parts :( still its an amazing car. I think it's arguably one of the best sounding M cars bar the N/A v8 ms. the estoril still looks awesome. I went for black. mine has aluminum doors though :).
I had a shroud get sucked in and push the fan into the radiator. Had to replace all 3. I was about 600mi from home.
You should update us on your m3's maintenance costs every episode
Love your vids car throttle
5:48 OLIIIVEERRRRR!!!!!!
I'm looking at possibly buying a 02 wrx gold v6 4L turbocharged... Yes, or no?
It's like your e36 has all the issues I've ever read on forums you could have :)) Sorry, mate! Hasn't the impeller been changed along with the viscous clutch?
your e36 makes me so happy lol i want another 1 soooooo bad 👌🖒🖒
I'm not a BMW fanboy, but I do like what I see from the new 2 series.
The trick with BMW's is to replace systems in their entirety at the same time. Have to replace a leaky coolant sensor? Replace the entire cooling system while you are at it. FCAB's getting sloppy? Go for every piece of rubber in the suspension, front and rear, and don't forget the steering coupling.
Sub-frame next 😖 just like my e46 m3. It'll be alright thou...
It was already mentioned earlier in the comments, but my bet is your motor mounts are near toast and that's why your fan bit the dust. If that's the case and you don't replace your motor mounts, you'll keep breaking fans.
From reasing and watching many of the reviews done on the m2 I'd say its probably more closer to the e30 m3 with how nimble it is compared to all the cars after the e30 m3.
I'll have my E46 now thanks
FINALY
Someone see what iv been seeing since the 1 coupe
What about the filler and rust on the driver side rear wheel arch? :P
that handshake reference was legit
That fan issue is actually very common for early e36 models. If you have one get new fans. It happens to all of them eventually
Review some AMGs. E55 would be cool
God I love the e36 content. Don't worry Alex, all the horrible things that happen on an e36 happen in the first few months of good usage with an e36. After all that cooling stuff it'll be really reliable and totally perfect.
I've had that happen to my E36. It made the worst noise, killed the radiator too. I bought an e46 since then.
Hey,car throttle if you could win a car from Botb what car would it be?
what do you mean by "your carthrottle name" in the surprise box
Idk, Toyota's I6 with the 1J and 2J sound pretty nice, as well as Nissan's RB series.
I just did a fan delete with a 180º thermo and wiring up my aux fan to a switch... I feel smart.
What song is this? I already know its made by Tom Kent..
im up 2 date with all ur vids alex. I watched this 10 mins after upload
whens a new vid comin alex
Please can you boost the e36 , would be an amazing build
Raihan hussain those would be the 10 best minutes of alex's life^^
is this car throttle or BWM throttle? some variety will be nice.
Harambe throttle
u know it
The mighty Lada!
"fixed it yesterday" to quote roadkill "did you tighten the (lug) nuts"? ;)
The m2 is badass for sure
Do a comparison with your e36 and an e39 m5
mann that e36 looks good
Man, lets see the miata!!
mentions cars price, youtube ad with the text "do u need money?" immediately shows up
So now we know how Alex treats his fans!
I ordered my M2 today! :D