Can You Build a QUALITY 5.2 Home Theater with Arendal 1723 Series?
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I run the 1723 monitors behind my screen, and 4 1723 surrounds.
Mind blowing to me that almost 3 years after I bought mine Arendal prices have increased almost 35%. With that said, I love them.
Awesome setup. Almost every brand has increased 30% (some even more) since the pandemic.
This video not only makes me wanna watch all those movies but get started on my own home theater experience at my house. Great video Michael!
Do it! Build it slowly over time.
Only rocking 5.4 right now, but still an amazing experience. Hopefully adding atmos back in as well as more surrounds this next year. Arendal speakers always look top notch. Great video bud
I’ve always said a proper 5.1 will beat a poorly setup 7.2. Thanks brother.
Gorgeous looking speakers Nd the fact they are all guaranteed for 10 years and delivered to your door with no dealer costs . They'll def be on my watch list next upgrade.
Yup ... LOVE mine in white. Agree with all the description on the sound character. my room is MUCH smaller.. but still able to present the incredible 2 channel stage that I want.
In my opinion, you can absolutely get a wonderful experience with 5.1 (or 5.2). The surrounds are enough to really immerse you quite a lot more than just 2.0 or 3.1. Is a system with twice those channels better? Obviously, yes, but 5.1 is pretty damn nice and already much better than your average home system. There are a lot of cheap soundbars out here, or even (gawd help us) built-in TV sound.
100% agree. You can achieve a phenomenal experience with 5.1
An accurate and high quality 5.x system is the foundation for a cinematic experience and will be incredible for most audiences. Anything beyond that is gravy but won't necessarily guarantee a better experience, especially if the equipment is low quality/budget... You'll just be surrounded by even more bad sound.
I've been in the DIY market for some time now, and not so long ago I built a subwoofer. It was a single 12-inch driver powered with a 250-watt amplifier, and just with that I was able to hit 110 db at 20Hz, please keep in mind that the room I was using was probably around 1/3 of your theater room and the seating area is somewhere in the middle of the room. After around 17Hz it had a pretty steep slope. But if I wanted it to go all the way down to 7Hz, it could only play around 100 dB peak. I'm planning on building a second one with an upgraded amplifier hoping that I will reach 115db. But now compared to this subwoofer, I'm pretty impressed with what I have accomplished!
If you are handy, DIY offers huge value.
Still a touch of Barry Manilow in the voice 😅😂❤❤. Great video editing and product showcase as always
Thanks Tristan. Yeah this cold is lingering for sure, but slowly getting my voice back.
There is an important equation in home cinema that No reviewer seems to promote ( until now 😁 thanks👍) and It's the quality or immersion proposition... A 5K 5.1 system for example will always sound much better than a 5K 7.2.4 system... People will happily allocate 6 amplifiers and 6 speakers to the height channels which represent less than 3% of the total sound whilst only allocating 5 or 7 bed layer speakers for the remaining 97% of sound...
Thank you kindly.
But Then Can You Still Add Atmos Speakers To This 5.2 Configuration And Make It 5.2.4 Or Something Like That?
I would love to check these out. I’m running the Pioneer Elite Andrew Jones speakers still and don’t get me wrong because sonically they sound awesome but when it comes to how loud they can get I’d love more volume.
I have a 3.1 system with the S series from Arendal and let me tell you I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
Durn -10. M. Has turned the dial up. -15 was my Sweet Spot. Very nice Review of a Non Atmos / DTS-X System. Glad you got your voice Back.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for your review and video. You have a beautiful room! I love the sound of my 1723 towers listening to just music in my listening room. Great speakers for both music and HT as you noted. Happy Holidays!
Thank you for the kind words. Merry Christmas!
Excellent, I have been using the gunfight scene in The Book of Eli since it came out. It is my go-to for subwoofer punch and rear testing.
i saw that price & my bank account was like nope, not today my guy! lol beautiful speakers tho
I watch gran turismo last night and kept commenting to my wife the sound is really good. And I was thinking why isn’t anyone talking about the sound in this movie. Then boom! If you are in to cars and racing they captured it. I rewatched the last race again alone turned up.😝😝
Did you watch it on Netflix or physical media UHD Blueray 🤔
@@MrBjorn6 Netflix. Its mixed it well. Only thing missing on those time splits is the wind 😂 you can count the split right on que!
hey Michael, would love if u could check out the aperion theatrus line
Loved the b roll section btw! Looks great!
I was definitely considering this line especially the center channel first. It’s a huge massive center but I was also considering the revel performa c208 center which is a three way and just as big and heavy. Good job on the review! I bet dialogue sounds big and clear on that.
Thank you kindly
Good review. If you had to choose, would you go with the towers+center, or matching monitors (behind AT screen). Towers for LCR are not an option for me.
Definitely, i would go for monitors configured as LCR. As its still more than enough to provide best performance. Especially when fed with an external Amplifier. Towers don't benefit much (in comparison to monitors) when using the same 80hz for speakers.
@@audiodynamicsmaxsolutions What do you mean monitors configured as LCR? So, three monitors with one as a center on its side?
If so, why not the Arendal 1723 THX Center?
Just curious!
@MadLadsAnonymous @MadLadsAnonymous Hi. Monitors configured as LCR mean: placing each monitor to set up as left speaker, right speaker, center speaker.
1723 center monitor model is the same as 1723 monitor. Same spinorama too. I don't suggest using the monitor even the center monitor model to place ( it's orientation)as horizontally( this doesnt provide wide spread of consistent frequency response but does provide vertically). Just place it as a monitor (tall orientation). As that gives wider and pretty much consistent frequency response while compromise on vertical frequency response consistency.
What projector are screen are you using for this theater setup? It looks amazing.
5.2 in the right room is perfectly fine for 80% of people
Another quality video! Would you be interested or able to do a series of videos based around best setup for different budgets? Maybe a $5-$8k at the lowest?
Thank you kindly. “Best setup” is difficult as that is super subjective. My goal is to provide enough info on the products that I review so that consumers can determine if it is a good fit for them.
right on, maybe what you would build for each budget. anyways, love the content. you're top tier@@Youthman
That would be a LOT of work and Youthman would need a LOT of stuff!
Yes, currently I have a 5.2 Arendal system in the theater room, a full 5.2 MartinLogan system in the living room and more gear in the garage. I desperately need a studio.
i was just thinking he could go over options, not necessarily do in person reviews...@@voiceofreason9238
I have these speakers, not the subs. They are fantastic. I heard they are about 75% of what a Perlisten setup (no subs) can achieve at 20% of the cost. Very happy with Arendal.
a blind test would be interesting, wouldn`t be surprised if 1723 were favored
How do the towers compare to your Martin Logan F200s? Which would you choose?
6:40 Cute story! Cooking together is underrated. :-)
Hoping you get rested up and get your voice back. It's gotta be rough powering through.
A great video. I really enjoyed it. Happy Christmas to you and your family.
I get a great experience from my 5.1.2 Atmos setup
Glad you are enjoying it! It’s a sweet system.
I have the same setup as you except when I added two more speakers I made mine Front Heights. I like the front sound stage.
Arendal is great. I'm in love w/ mine...
Awesome! Which models do you own?
@@Youthman I have a pair of the 1723THX floor standing speakers on an Emotiva XPA-Two....and a pair of Emotiva XS12 ported subwoofers.
I'm definitely replacing my RF 82s with the 1973S and my Sony receiver with the amv 70 which I'm painfully waiting for your review lol
I build tower speakers and my center speaker 3way center out solid oak
Gran Turismo is a fantastic movie!
Maybe I can watch it during Christmas weekend.
Hey Youthman, great channel and review. I've been eying the 1723 towers and the Martin Logan F200's. You are about the only person on CZcams that I've seen review both, what are your honest thoughts on this comparison. Considering the price of both sets they should compete in the same space from a retail point of view.
Also, I currently own a set of PSB Stratus Gold i towers, great speakers for sure and im still very pleased with them but just feel the need for a refresh.
Any thoughts on comparison thoughts on 1723's & F200's would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
They sent me a new pair of 1723 THX as well as the 1723 THX S. I’ve never had them in the same room to compare but would like to this go around.
Building my home theater when i got my first 15-in sub woofer I said that was enough and wasn't going to get another,,,, few months later wound up getting 2 more 15s now I got 3 subs 😂!
Could you do a review of the tonewinner d6000 subwoofer? It looks like an impressive quality/price subwoofer.
Will I absolutely need an amp for these speakers or will my Onkyo TX-NR6100 be sufficient enough?
Hi. I would suggest if you could connect your Front left & Right speakers as well as center channel to be connected with an external amplifer (if on budget : BasX A3). If you could afford: emotiva basx A11 is more than enough to feed every speaker the required power effortless by the amp than the avr.
These arendals do require power Amplifier in order to maximize its performance. You'll definitely notice clarity and better dynamics reproduction whatever listening volume you listen to.
how did arendal 1723 compared to klipsch rf 7 iii?
They are beautiful speakers unfortunately above my price range at the moment.
I have Jamo set , towers C97 with C9 centre ,C93 surrounds and 2x J112 subs ,but 1723 is my dream set .
Is this the review or will there be more videos? Given their reputation and acclaim, I thought these deserved a lot more attention for a review. More measurements, comparisons, etc.
This is the review. Over the past 6 years, I have only measured subwoofers. There are other channels that can provide measurements for them. Also, my reviews rarely are comparing to another product as I feel each review can stand on its own merit.
I agree with Adam. This review was a disappointment. The most obvious comparison would be the 1723 towers with your Martin Logan F200s. I think the fact that they are a sponsor is making you reluctant to express any real criticism.
Their sponsorship was for 3 months and ended DEC 1st. If you go back and look at the speaker reviews I have on my channel, none of them have direct AB comparisons with another brand. Any time I compare speakers would be a separate comparison video, not in the review itself as a speaker should be reviewed on its own merit.
@@Youthman Not necessarily AB comparisons, just general impressions of how they compare to other speakers you have heard. Andrew Robinson, Steve Guttenberg and others always do that in their speaker reviews.
I'm buying a C50 in 2024 and going to a 5.1 from my current 3.0. I will eventually do atmos but probably not until 2025.
Love it! Thank you .
Shouldn’t those rear surrounds me more to the side of you rather than way back? It’ll sound better if they’re just behind the seating position, against the side ways and pointed towards the center seating position. What I saw in the video they’re too far rearward. Curious to know what you think?
Hi.
The actual speaker layout for 5.1 configuration (placement for surround speakers) would be to place corners of the room. That's how it's supposed to be placed. Because dolby rendered the surround speakers as back speakers. Where it conveys surround as well as surround backs. So it needs to be slightly behind you 120⁰ or corners of the room is what it's preferred as standard.
Audio Dynamics is correct. Take a look at this 5.1 layout. The surrounds are 110 - 120 degrees - www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/5.1.4-hybrid-overhead-atmos-speaker-setup-guide/
If you have a 7.1, the sides are 90 - 110 degrees to provide more separation between the sides and rear surrounds.
I bought the 1723 S towers and am enjoying them, but I'm wondering if I should send them back for the larger 1723 tower. We are trying to finish our theater room, where they'll eventually be, that is 14 x 18. Wondering if I'll need more volume.
Not necessary. As long you use the speakers with an external Amplifier and even you drive them to reference. It plays effortless by the Amplifier. No need to get a tower version. Anyhow you'll be using crossover. No point in getting a tower as it doesn't not even have higher sensitivity than bookshelf or monitors have.
Great Review as usual, thx for that. What would you recommend now. Arendal or the Martin Logan System. I plan without tower speakers. 4 bookshelf or like 5 centers from arendal and a 60 or 80 Hz crossover and 2 or 4 atmos with same tweeters. Thx in advance
Would go for martin logan Bookshelf models all around. With an external amp (as it definitely helps for sure to be able to handle effortless as well provide power at lower frequency (multitone) than AVR does . It improves clarity for sure at any volume levels
Another great review, thanks for all you do
Glad you enjoyed the review William
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Victor
Hey Michael, I Just Want To Know, Do They Really SOUND That Good ?????
If they didn’t sound good, I would’ve stated so in the video. Here’s an inside tip. You can generally tell how much I like a product depending on how much and how big of a smile I have when speaking about it.
@@Youthman, Copy That Michael!!!
Great video as always. I have a question about the subs, I have a room similarly proportioned as yours but smaller, 11' wide 14' long 8' tall. Should I expect more of an in room bass response that digs deeper with if I get dual 2S'?
Yes for sure. For your room size I would expect atleast 5db per octave rise below the lowest frequency rated of the sub.
As long as you can time alignment in right way. You can expect good results for in room response too
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Ok, question.. I put 2 systems together, one arendal, one svs ultra, and they came in relatively at the same price. Would you recommend one over the other?
Anyone can privide a Recommendation. But you are the one who is purchasing these. Purchase what sounds good to your ears. But if you still need an opinion. Arendal would be better choice (use external power Amplifier to feed power and works well).
What is the maximum SPL the towers can hit without compression?
I’m not sure. I wanted to measure them, but was having some issues with REW.
Hello YM, glad to see as this is a great review of the Arendal speakers. I was looking to replace my Klipsch with these but after seeing several YT videos how would you compare these to Klipsch RP series speakers? I heard people say these are neutral compared to the Klipsch which would be more dynamic and forward than these. Your Thoughts?
I hear your voice sounds under the weather. Please get well soon.
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Yes Klipsch will have a more forward sound and brighter top end. It really depends on what your ears prefer.
@@Youthman Thanks for that info. That is why I decided to keep my Klipsch.
I pray that the Lord continue to heal and strengthen you.
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Thanks Paul.
@@Youthman How to you think these compare to the Klipsch RF7v3 and ML in overall SQ? My thoughts is the RF7v3 would beat these.
According to your knowledge, which sub is best svs pb 16 ultra r klipsch reference 2 ?
We had a blind test this year at MWAVE with 7 subwoofers. The RP1600SE was favored over the PB16
Hello been watching your channel for a while. Purchasing arendal set up. Untill wife approves an amp can these run a marantz cinema 50 ? That's what im looking to purchase. The reciever is rated for 8 ohms the towers are 4. If not whats another good reciever?
Hi Kyle, I have not reviewed the new Marantz cinema series but a high end Marantz should have no problem powering the Arendal system. You can always add an amp down the road if you feel you need more power.
Are you happy with your AV7706 or is there something you think you missed out?
I’m considering 7706 or 8805A
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it for many years.
Great to hear, keep up the good vibes 👌 take care
How about Arendal 1723 monitor S ?
Both works well. You can get away even with "S" models too. Not at all a compromise for sure.
Mr youthman your room size please 😊
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Strange you don't run anthem or Trinnov
What’s strange about it? My Marantz AV7706 sounds fantastic and is 100% reliable. Never had one single hiccup.
Trinnov is $16,000 and I don’t need the extra channels so no need there. I have the AVM70 in for review so I’ll be checking that out soon.
The avm70 is ok. You should get the avm90 and send that 70 back.
Marantz is great but time to step the game up
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We listen at more like -40db
Wow. Thats pretty low. Interesting.
In my living room (don’t have a dedicated theatre) I listen anywhere between -32 to -26 (depending on the streaming service / content / physical disc)
me too
no compartison to the JTRs. YAwn, another advertisement.
How is this a yawn or an advertisement because they cannot compare to JTR? JTR cost almost twice as much.
If I compare everything I review to JTR, very few will be able to come close to their performance.
I review everything on its own merit sharing the things I like and dislike about a product. I do my best to provide enough info so that consumers can decide for themselves whether or not a product is a good fit for them.
@@Youthman The lack of any comparison to JTR sucks. You have them in-house, so you could have easily said how the speakers do or don't compare, regardless of price tag. Its interesting as users to hear what you get for the extra money and what edge (if any), Arendal has.
I know you didn't like to draw any comparisons re: JTR & Perlisten as you said it was audio memory but you have an oppurtunity with both in room to give an honest analysis and cross comparison of the products.
Everyone by now knows Arendals sound good. Its more cross comparisons which are useful, this day in age.
I know you need to stay on good terms with most brands, so cross comparing will obviously hurt that - but I think it'll provide far more valuable content to potential buyers.
@@aaronao1 Comparisons of products is usually done on a like for like bases, people shopping for 1k speakers won't be helped much by comparing them to 3k speakers, especially when bias, diminishing returns and subjective listening is added into the equation... Keep it simple I say 😊👂🔊
It has zero to do with keeping brands happy. If that were the case, I wouldn’t ever point out shortcomings in a product.
I have something better for you. Come to MWAVE and hear them all for yourself and make your own conclusions.
Great video. I’m still on a 5.1 system and don’t really have the urge to go beyond maybe a 5.1.4 system just adding the height for some better effects and spaciousness. I’m not willing to spend a lot of money on extending to the height channels so until I really get the urge I’ll stick with 5.1.