Making Tongue And Groove Flooring From A Fallen Tree.
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2022
- I show the processes to turn a fallen tree into valuable tongue and groove flooring. The log is white oak.
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You gain a lot of appreciation for all the work that goes into making lumber watching you make these boards. Nice work!
An extremely under rated channel! (for now at least). Not only do you have a high skill set and resources for a number of different trades, but you have excellent teaching skills as well which makes you different than a lot of other channels in this category. Keep up the good work!
How is he underrated?
Getting ready to make some quarter-sawn white oak flooring, for 160 year old family farm house. Used your video to get a sense of steps-sequence for T&G production. You not only provided a very clear and simple approach to that, but I REALLY liked how you spent "screen time" illustrating dealing with shop waste, recycling, reusing and repurposing. As any of us with a mill/shop quickly learns, the "natural trash" generated by making volumes of fine lumber out of trees is gargantuan. Like you, I'm always looking find something sensible to do with the by products...and keep my work area clear! Tool tips were also invaluable. Thanks, and I'm sure to be studying a lot more of your work. 👍🏻
Don’t follow his method
Absolutely my favorite channel! You work the land and the materials that land produces as it should be. In this so called modern world where everyone wants what’s everything right then, at that moment, it’s really nice to see things being used, and created the way it was intended to be. Thanks for the paint tip, as well for the trim tip!! Just started a large trim project.
Just wanted to thank you for all the wisdom you've shared on this channel.
Love your wood shop , some people love watching football , basketball, etc. I love watching woodworkers build something in their wood shop.
Exactly. It's entertaining and I learn something watching this.
This is why I love rough sawn lumber. It's like the most fulfilling thing to create usable building material from it
I love the archaic measurements and that's from someone who comes from where they came from!
Painting all your sides before the installation is definitely going to make an incredibly long lasting and beautiful project!
Wow. It's so cool to see a fallen tree in the woods turned into so many useful things.
Blue mineral tubs!!! Don't know how I ever lived without them. Getting ready to do tongue and groove pine planks and this gave me a good idea of what to expect. Great video!
I've said it before, and I'm saying it again: This is my favourite channel on CZcams! So awesome to see that tree become these floor boards. 😎👍
Love wood floors. I built my house 4 years ago and was pleasantly surprised the builder offered 3/4" red oak as an option. My wife and I wanted a zero carpet house so we had them do the wood everywhere except where there is tile in bathrooms and laundry, even the closet floors are oak. They did a hand scraped distress and dark cherry stain that just looks amazing. Never thought I could get a new home with floors like this.
Well, if the new house doesn't offer it, you could always tell the builders not to do the flooring and hire another contractor to do it! Probably a bit more expensive but well worth it in my opinion!
What a process! Pretty impressive that you were able to take this from a log, to the sawmill, to the kiln, etc. all the way to a finished product. Not only are there a bunch of steps, but you did quite a stack of lumber each time. Really nice work on the milling process and on the video.
I'd end up one board short when I went to do the floor.
@@savage22bolt32 like me, I seldom make extra anything. It can and will come back and bite you one time or another.
I didnt see any kiln here
Wow my exact 30+ year old router table. Roy was a great teacher.
I love your work ethic.
Whoops not Roy…..Norm. Roy is that other great teacher.
Thank you for this video!!! I wish you , your family , and your channel a happy, safe , and successful 2022 .
Awesome job.
19:03 shout out to the man, the legend, the one and only, Norm "Safety Glasses" Abram... "And remember this. There is no more important safety rule, than to wear THESE... your safety glasses"
I worked in a small molding shop for a few years making all types of molding, casing and flooring, we even made columns for a historic home out of tapered two ways tongue and groove strips. Really miss that job sometimes, learned a lot. We used wax on all the moulders and planers, it was in a block form.
Where do you live?
@@cindymathisen9697 eastern NC
I'm not a woodworker but I'm fascinated with the "feather board" fixturing you put on the router table. Brilliant!
You are very crafty, courageous and patient! I learned a lot watching you do all this! You are definitely skilled! What a sense of accomplishment one gets out of doing this!
Actually, as an experiment, your untreated porch floor was not, strictly speaking, a failure. Since an experiment seeks to answer a question, and the question being asked here "does my porch flooring need some sort of treatment to protect it?" has been answered, most emphatically "YES!", the experiment, as an experiment, was quite successful.
I just wish my own experiments produced such clear results!
I like how you put it.. really nice, very mature & 100% right about it.
Exactly.
it's still maintenance free. Success!
Can you answer in more detail?
Agreed--well said!
Running a planer with gloves is how my grandpa lost his fingertips
I really like when you get into explaining everything, most videos don’t do that. Thanks!!! Awesome video!
Nice. I have done this (make my own T&G) from rough-sawn raw-edge chestnut boards that I bought (dead cheap) from a local farmer (so not all the way from the tree, but that's as close as I will ever get).
All I have is a DeWalt table-saw, a Metabo planer/thicknesser and a home-made router table (actually just the top, mounted on a workmate). It's lots of effort and I produced more sawdust than I have ever seen in my life XD. Also, the floor was for my new workshop so I had to do it all in the open air on temporary setups.
What I did was put a straight-edge on each board first using the table-saw and a straight-edge jig... then through the planer and finally ran it all past the router with a T&G set.
Very, very satisfying when I laid it.
EDIT: I had the exact same problem running bowed boards through the router i.e. bowed boards can lift and your tongues and grooves can start wandering all over the place. Solved for the most part with a second feather-board after the cut and by paying attention and adding my weight on the board to help keep flat when it was necessary. Still didn't work always, some boards just don't want to be in your project!
Thanks for opening my eyes to what to expect. I'm up to the challenge of converting 28, cut down elm trees, that have been milled to rough sawn, 1 1/4" by approx 10" w by about 1600 bd ft of lumber. Hoping to do some tongue and groove flooring in my home with it. This is a great video. Nice work.
Be cautious with your elm. There ARE several subspecies,, an American elm fro SE Michigan is not necessarily the same qualities of an American elm out of southern Ohio. Elm is an incredibly fibrous wood. Many elm trees,, don't even try to split the wood for firewood,, You will fail, or be so tired you'll wish you had not begun. Elm in mid Michigan does have an important use. The interior bottom of a large dump truck,, particularly if used to haul busted concrete to a crusher for recycling. A 2.5 to 3 inch thick plank of elm will survive for 2 or 3 years having concrete chunks from highway projects thrown in by excavators. The stuff is tough. Even 2 plus years of abuse,, the elm is not broken,, just worn thin.
Does not plane easily,, requires absolutely sharp knives Even carbide insert planers,, must be sharp or they just raise the grain. Sanding,, take it down slow. You may even want to do a water wash to raise the grain,, to sand it down to a finish.
The stuff is a pain,, but,,, if you ever get a 13/16ths floor down and pretty that floor might last for centuries in a home.
Amazing! Love your setup with the machines and I’m totally envious of your workshop. And the amount of work involved in getting that tree into individual pieces of board ready for usage, explains the cost of solid hardwood floors.
Really enjoy your videos!
This is a great video! I'm just learning the sawmill and will be making an interior floor (I hope) out of Cherry. I'm familiar with the process you video, but I'm still learning. Thank you for such a great tutorial!
Really impressed by the work you put into this. The final result will be amazing, especially knowing the labor you had to put into it. Well done! Greetings from The Netherlands 🇳🇱
Enjoyed the video. I have made mountains of sawdust, making custom flooring in my one-man shop. Here's a coupla ideas to consider. On the grove edge, if you quickly run it back thru the tablesaw and take 1/64-1/32 off of the bottom "tongue" only, it will insure that the top joint will always be tight as can be!. Also, you might consider making a plywood sled jig that rides in tablesaw t-slot with a coupla adjustable toggle clamps. This will make your one-edging operation super fast and super accurate. And you can do up to about 10' stock. I used to do this before I bought my 11' sliding table saw - yeah, I know - that is cheating!
reducing the bottom half of the grooved side is the professional approach. That's how you buy if from the manufacturer.
I came here for the tongue and groove making because I don't want to pay for something I can make... I don't *need* to watch you milling but after spending eight months milling timber for a framing project I was involved in, I can sure appreciate it! Thanks for the great video*s*
I enjoy watching videos about how things are made DIY. Even with all the wood, machines, and the shop available, it is still a lot of work from what I can see.
This guy lives every garage DIYer's dream life
Finally! Someone using featherboards!
Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. It's going to help me out in my upcoming flooring project.
Very knowledgeable. Great to watch an expert - and hear his thought process in evaluating boards.
Many years ago I built a straight edge table attached to one wall in the shop. Two by shelf. Two by four inch channel steel straight edge.Hold down clamps to secure lumber. Gauge block to adjust offset. Run router along channel to straighten the lumber edge. Sometimes reset a few times for larger defects. Easier to utilize than a jointer.
When you got a good bow in the board just cut it in half, have you ever seen what happens when something else gets caught in the jointer like your cuff or your glove. It will take your whole hand in, I grew up in a wood shop and we used to run all the machinery without the guards and it's very dangerous after 20 years I can say that I still have all of my fingers but a lot of people don't.
Quite impressive sir 😎
yep , or when some idiot is working on a lathe and this person has long hair , unsecured . it can end , very badly and it does happen upon rare occassion .
Nice to know I'm new at this and I enjoy having all my fingers and hands
I think you’re my new hero buddy!!! Kick ass shop and projects and production!!! You rock dog!!!!
Right now I am in the process of rounding up some pine that has been blown down or sawed down. I have a porch that needs repairing and it has younger and groove boards. This is extremely helpful.
When dumping the sawdust make sure you're puffing on a fat Cuban cigar, preferably at night, for the ultimate lightshow!
Very interesting process. It's nice to be able to see it from the falling tree up to the painting process. I was wondering if you are going to post the video when you install it on your porch? Because I would be very interested in seeing it. Thank you for your good work, I'm always happy when I see you post something.
Timber is one of the finest gifts God gave to mankind. It is no wonder His Son was a professional carpenter His whole life (except for just over three years).
I realy like your calm and clear way of talking us through the proces.
nicely done video. You do a good job explaining all the processes. I do my stock prep fairly similarly. But a couple suggestions:
1. with a board that's got edges that are not fairly straight..I always run it thru the table saw first. Saves multiple passes on the jointers, and saw blades are easier to sharpen and change than jointer knives. Wish I had a SLR, (straight line rip) but even without, with skill, and a little longer fence or guide, you can do a decent job such that then it is only one pass on the jointer.
additionally in watching your jointer, it appeared that you were putting pressure on the in-feed bed most of the run thru of the board. Probably works ok for you, but you should try putting most of the pressure on the OUT-FEED side once the board has progressed thru the head enough so that the out-feed table is covered. The idea of a jointer is that you don't have a reference flat edge until the board has passed over the knives. On one of my jointers I put on a power feeder on the outfeed side, really makes it easy, just like your planer, just have to feed it far enough that the feeder wheels grab the board. makes an especially nice cut then.
anyway, great video.
I'm part way through the same process as you. Almost two years ago I ended up have my mountain cherry trees taken down at the lake house. They had disease and had to go. I had a company come in and drop them. That's all they did. Eighteen trees for 1200 bucks. Not bad. They had to remove a few other trees that were in the way. I bought an Alaskan saw mill. The small one. I have a STIHL 18 inch saw. Somewhat under rated for doing so much milling. It made it though. Ended up with about 900 board foot of cherry. This summer I figure it's going to be as dry as it's going to get. It's been on the covered porch drying.
I decided that it was going to be flooring in my two downstairs bedrooms.
This summer I'll start milling as you did. My pieces are 8 foot and some are 11 foot.
Dad was a wood shop teacher and built that home. The cabinets and some of the stairway is from the cherry on that property. Why waste a beautiful wood in the fireplace when it can be put to good use.
My neighbor helped me with cutting the boards. We made a few three inch thick boards and he grabbed some for a project he's starting this summer as well. Neighbors helping neighbors is important to me.
I'm hoping it all works out. I'm glad you mentioned to the width of the boards. I was going to go with about six inch to eight inch boards depending on what I could get away with. But cupping would be an issue.
I'm waiting to see how your flooring project turns out.
Sounds like it's going to be beautiful!
I'm envious of the trees on your property. My property has mostly sweet gum (useless for woodworking), soft maple, and loblolly pine.
@@mikehodges6598 We have some sweet gums also. Nice tree except for the 'gum balls' they drop. Hard on the feet.
wow! what a bunch of work! nice job
Lovely wood finish work .
I usually use a track saw to establish a straight edge, then I rip to my dimension before planing. I think this is quicker than jointing the edges and creates less saw dust than planing first, as you'd also be planing the stuff that will be cut away later.
I also invested in a portable 1/4HP power feeder that attaches via magnets to my table saw and router that's build into my table saw. Not only is this safer than ripping many boards but also eliminates the start/stop dings when pushing long boards through as you adjust your grip when ripping.
You must have a lot of room to have all that stuff.
@@beebob1279 No more room than the guy in the video.
Yeah, a power feeder is wonderful when producing HUGE batches like this.
I tell ya John, you are always teaching us something. And you have the skill of being able to make it interesting. Hey don't you wish sanding all those boards took 3-4 sec like it did during playback!?!
Also, now you have to make a Johnson joke in every video. It's a thing now.
You have a fantastic work ethic just like most of us in our 70s and 80s. I was a carpenter for over 45 yrs and we took pride in our work. If ewe had to stay a while after hrs to fix something we did and not count every minute,
.we also learned from each other no matter your age.my favorite channel by far keep them coming PLEASE . GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS
ah those close up jointer shots are so satisfying
Great stuff man, thanks for sharing. I have a coffee farm down in Mexico and I'd love to have you down here one day (on the house of course!) it's a very old hacienda with old equipment and I think your input would be very valuable. So if you're ever in the mood for a trip down to Xalapa Veracruz to visit a coffee plantation and share some wisdom over coffee and mezcal, let me know!.
Awesome
You should buy a pellet machine and transform all dust into pellet b class . You can sell it also or buy a pellet stove for the winter
It all depends on profitability!
Sale's vs Overhead costs.
If he would buy the machines for himself or for sale he would have to maintain a level of output very hard for a 1 man shop.
Yes it sounds great to do. But not so easily achieved in reality.
He's got a boiler he can just toss the sawdust into. No pellets needed.
What a lot of work and an adventure. The porch boards came out great. I really liked the floor you put in your home as well. I bet you are proud.
I've always liked knots, they add character. ☺
at my work i never even heard of some of this fancy stuff like a feather board and ive sent plenty of planks through a router, learnt some neat things today thanks
Dude, you're just doing it right. Mad props.
Excellent woodworking, and CZcams production. Thanks for all the work, and for taking us along with you.!
Thank you for showing the process you're a great teacher and your work is fantastic again thank you I really enjoy your videos
That's the beauty of wood it's not perfect
Love this kind of content. Thanks for sharing. Also the call out to Norm was a nice throwback too.
I really appreciate that your outfeed table is another table saw!
My morning coffee with a Farm Craft video. What could be better?
Good video for someone who's never seen a planer or jointer.
Fascinating video, thank you from the Scottish Highlands!
Nice comprehensive video. I came across a glut of dead American chestnut recently and wanted to try this. This definitely got me pointed in the right direction.
I also have a Woodmaster Planer. Mine is a 12 inch and about 35 years old. Works great...Now. I had trouble feeding and didn't feel comfortable with was on the table. I feared that the was would transfer to my wood and mess with the various finishes I use. My "fix" was purchasing a UHMW sheet for my particular planer from Woodmaster that fit my feed table. WOW, what a difference that made. I have had the UHMW sheet for about 1 year or so, and it is a real pleasure to use. No trouble with non-feeding at all now. Great video you have here. Thanks
Beautiful work, and so many great tips! Many thanks for sharing. Recently found out that white oak is rot resistant unlike red oak.
I like this content. When I build my shop I'm going to figure out how to collect my saw dust into an ibc tote and use my tractor and pallet forks to move the harvested sawdust to my compost pile!
I love working with white oak. Fantastic wood
Nice job and a nice set up.
Great video. Thanks for making it.
I like the way you show the way the tool works
Your a man who loves wood !
Learned a lot about woodworking. Very impressive!
great peek into how to do! Thanks.
It’s 2am and I’m laying in bed binge watching your content thinking…WTF dude, is there anything you can’t do?
Also me: you’re just showing off now 😂🤣😂
thanks for explaining and demonstrating the difference between a jointer and planner! Ive watched many channels and it seems that its assumed the difference is known!
Awesome work love watching creative people who take pride in their skills and tools
I remember watching that router table plan/build with my grandfather who was a carpenter and cabinet maker.
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Lovely.
Not much to say. You nailed it.
Thank you,
NYC is watching 👀 you for more.
Thank you,
Sabino
Awesome work!
Great job, dude.
Beautiful Job
Love the gasifier btw... 🤗
Thanks for the lesson. That is going to be a pretty floor. I didn't know there was such a thing as linseed paint.
Love those old stone steps out back. Not the most practical but they are gorgeous & look to be a part of a long history.
Just found the channel! Thank you for the video! I really appreciate how straight you explain the challenges here.
I subbed the moment I saw you explaining how the plainer works - never used one. Love the way you explain. All the best form Poland!
Johnson jokes always make me smile :-)
You are truly old school! Great job.👍
Thanks for shearing .. I really got a lot of information from dis. I never thought you don't have to use a jointer to get it flat. Thanks for the tip God bless.
Talented,hard worker, resourceful guy.
That black fuzzy thing is cute but funny looking flooring
That is a awesome workshop. But you need all those tools to do what you do.
I consider you very knowledgable in what you do. So glad I found your channel.
Adding a helical cutter head to your planer and picking up a shaper with a power feeder would make this task much more efficient with better results.
Absolutely incredible, amazing job.
A lot of work and patience. Good for you. Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Whether playing with it or using the paste
Johnson's are underrated in the modern world!!
have a great day
best wishes to you and family
thanks for sharing :):)
Everything, Excellent Information!!.....You Are Almost, A Perfectionist!!.....Great Work!!!