Two Chainsaw Secrets | Turning a Tree into Perfect Boards

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  • čas přidán 14. 10. 2019
  • This video is about two hacks you can use to cut a log into perfectly straight and smooth boards by turning your chainsaw into a sawmill without any attachments.
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    Friends, for your convenience I assembled a chronologically arranged list of videos about my efforts in establishing this log cabin camp in the off-grid remote location of Karelia (All Seasons):
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    01 episode - • Fire-Carved Log Furniture ​​ (1 season) 2014
    02 episode - • Fire Log Furniture ... ​​ (1 season) 2014
    03 episode - ​ • Запруда на ручье - рук... ​ (1 season) 2014 (not translated)
    1 episode - ​​ • Off Grid Log Cabin Bui... ​​ (2 season) 2015
    2 episode - ​ • Off Grid Log Cabin Bui... ​​ (2 season) 2015
    3 episode -​ • Off Grid Log Cabin Bui... ​ (3 season) 2016
    4 episode -​ • Off Grid Log Cabin Bui... ​​​ (3 season) 2016
    5 episode - ​ • 30 Days Solo Bushcraft... ​​ (4 season) 2017
    6 episode - ​ • Bear-proofing My Log C... ​​ (4 season) 2017
    7 episode - ​ • 21 Days Alone in the N... ​​ (5 season) 2018
    8 episode - • Top 5 Bushcraft Projec... ​​ (6 season) 2019
    9 episode - ​ • Making a Topsy-Turvy W... ​​ (6 season) 2019
    10 episode- ​ • DIY Tools, Outdoor Wor... ​​ (6 season) 2019
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    My Patreon page: ​ / advoko​​
    #AdvokoMAKES #MaxEgorov
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  • @Advoko
    @Advoko  Před 4 lety +397

    I wanted to ask you guys for advice. I no longer trust my Stihl MC260 as it gave me repetitive problems even after it was repaired by a dealer.
    In other words, what chain saw of comparable size would be a good choice for cutting logs into lumber using my method
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    Friends, for your convenience I assembled a chronologically arranged list of videos about my efforts in establishing
    this log cabin camp in the off-grid remote location of Karelia (All Seasons):
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    01 episode - @ (1 season) 2014
    02 episode - @ (1 season) 2014
    03 episode - ​@ (1 season) 2014 (not translated)
    1 episode - ​​@ (2 season) 2015
    2 episode - ​@ (2 season) 2015
    3 episode -​@ (3 season) 2016
    4 episode -​@ (3 season) 2016
    5 episode - ​@ (4 season) 2017
    6 episode - ​@ (4 season) 2017
    7 episode - ​@ (5 season) 2018
    8 episode - @ (6 season) 2019
    9 episode - ​@ (6 season) 2019
    10 episode- ​@ (6 season) 2019
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    My Patreon page: ​@t​

    • @rufushowe3885
      @rufushowe3885 Před 4 lety +119

      You are great on that scooter lol lol lol

    • @chattonlad9382
      @chattonlad9382 Před 4 lety +217

      Husqvarna every time, and good two stroke oil at 50 to 1. Never add more oil, more oil = weak mixture = runs hot and increases wear. Steer clear of any 2 stroke with oil metering.

    • @ulriklange3924
      @ulriklange3924 Před 4 lety +47

      Maybe one of those competitive chainsaws, with a V8 engine 😂 ... Love your videos. Huge respect for your Work! .. greetings from Denmark. 😀

    • @KowboyUSA
      @KowboyUSA Před 4 lety +76

      For heavy work load I've been using the same Stihl MS 660 for almost 10 years with only minimal repairs. However, it is a considerably larger saw.
      *P.S., If you want to get away from Stihl you might try Husqvarna. I have a 480 CD that's over 30 years old, although it's worn out it still runs.

    • @iliketobuildstuff7013
      @iliketobuildstuff7013 Před 4 lety +24

      I have a couple Stihl saws but the one that most impressed is the huztl /holzforrma 372 I run a 41in bar on it and it has plenty of power and is cheap and been very reliable for me

  • @Rebirth602
    @Rebirth602 Před 2 lety +29

    You got a like just for hauling that wood out on that scooter. Respect.

  • @taniarodrigues468
    @taniarodrigues468 Před 9 měsíci +314

    I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle czcams.com/users/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

  • @tasmedic
    @tasmedic Před 4 měsíci +30

    You're a genius, Advoko! I used your method and in an afternoon practicing, I was able to cut perfectly straight oak boards 3cm thick and 3.3 metres long, from a fallen tree just using my stihl MSA 220 battery chainsaw. It's all about relaxing, and repeating the swinging technique. It's counter intuitive, but it works like magic!

    • @Tihiroprjckuh9000
      @Tihiroprjckuh9000 Před 2 měsíci

      Великолепно 🎉. Даже ваша пила справилась с распиловкой вдоль волокон. Вы использовали цепь, заточенную под 10 градусов?

    • @saltydawg8988
      @saltydawg8988 Před 21 dnem

      Wow, impressed you were able to do this with a battery powered device. Which saw, and how long did the battery last you?

  • @jimtalor7971
    @jimtalor7971 Před 2 lety +20

    Useful technique but the double battering ram motorbike was most impressive!

  • @papapetad
    @papapetad Před 3 lety +555

    It takes years to acquire simple wisdom. Powerful words right there.

    • @patricks.hafersr.8723
      @patricks.hafersr.8723 Před 3 lety +5

      Well Said👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @jacobbeaty2869
      @jacobbeaty2869 Před 3 lety

      Hey

    • @silentwisdom7025
      @silentwisdom7025 Před 3 lety +7

      Intuitive and natural solutions come with repetition and being mindful of productivity. Safety first, ergonomic technique second, and productivity for the end customer third. It's taken me over 20 years to learn that.

    • @outsgoodadventure5111
      @outsgoodadventure5111 Před 3 lety +3

      I agree! I thought the "beam machine" I used in my cabin video was simple, but this is awesome!

    • @bowsersl
      @bowsersl Před 3 lety

      @@jacobbeaty2869 98

  • @DerMeister821
    @DerMeister821 Před 4 lety +306

    "It takes years to acquire simple wisdom."
    I had to pause for a second when I heard him say that. If that's all anyone takes away from this video, you're ahead of the game.

    • @DerMeister821
      @DerMeister821 Před 4 lety +5

      I should add I cut a couple logs in half, and had to use a draw knife to try to even out the result, plus I didn't use a plumb line. So, lesson learned.
      But anyway: I accomplished several small projects this summer, mostly thanks to watching videos like yours, Survival Russia, and several other smaller bushcraft channels and various wood-working (finnish, norwegian, baltic cabin/wood working tutorials) videos. So thanks for that!

    • @grizzlyaddams3606
      @grizzlyaddams3606 Před 4 lety +2

      It takes years for me to find this video before doing my cutting project. Thanks BRO!

    • @grizzlyaddams3606
      @grizzlyaddams3606 Před 4 lety +3

      @@DerMeister821 check Mr. Chickadee too.

    • @DerMeister821
      @DerMeister821 Před 4 lety +3

      @@grizzlyaddams3606 yep, found his channel as well, pretty skilled guy.

    • @fokendikhed
      @fokendikhed Před 3 lety

      @@grizzlyaddams3606 awesome name... Takes me back to when I was a wee lad.... almost half a century ago...😁

  • @harrisc8101
    @harrisc8101 Před rokem +22

    Dude you are a fine example of a human being. Love your work and shared wisdom!

  • @stromiguel8890
    @stromiguel8890 Před 2 lety +87

    Oh man, you just saved me quite a lot of money - now I'm definitely NOT buying any attachments or chainsaw sawmills. I'm rather investing the time to master this technique of yours! Thanks for this video

  • @ALRules42
    @ALRules42 Před 3 lety +475

    Came for the board cutting, stayed for the log moped

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight Před 4 lety +481

    I'm super impressed. I never would have thought such results were possible without a sawmill attachment. You prove your cleverness once again!

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 3 lety +7

      did this 4 years ago. i just snapped a chalk line. it is surprising how easy it is to hold it vertical.

    • @Marcuslobenstein
      @Marcuslobenstein Před 3 lety +4

      I find it easier to cut of the edge with a "beam machine" especially with curvy logs. What advoko does works well but only on good straight uniform logs for me

    • @em4703
      @em4703 Před 3 lety +3

      Do not cut slabs like that, not enough load on the saw. You'll end up burning it, like he did.

    • @dr.doppeldecker3832
      @dr.doppeldecker3832 Před 2 lety +9

      Humans have been cutting straight boards for thousands of years using just saws and no jigs;) the industrial revolution unfortunately has made us forget a lot of these genius techniques....

    • @wfks_forum
      @wfks_forum Před 2 lety +6

      @@em4703 running low rpm little or no load,why it will burn?

  • @josephcoyle8126
    @josephcoyle8126 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Before I knew chainsaw milling was even possible, I was speaking to a local farmer around here who runs a small shop out of a wooden hut he constructed himself out of thin, smooth but irregular self-milled planks. When I asked how he built the thing, he told me he used a chainsaw. Blown away, I asked what kind of tech he used to pull it off. He told me "I used some pretty advanced equipment...you ever heard of a 2x4?" For years, his response eluded me. Now I think I finally understand what he was getting at. Can't wait to try it. Thank you for sharing your wisdom!!

  • @derekrigsbee6947
    @derekrigsbee6947 Před rokem +33

    Just want to give you a pro tip on the mill attachment. When using the mill attachment you should put wedges in the cut every 2 or 3 feet to suspend the board off the bar. I love you videos and hope this helps keep up the great work!

  • @rufushowe3885
    @rufushowe3885 Před 4 lety +565

    I love it when you put two logs on the scooter, lol lol lol

    • @rufushowe3885
      @rufushowe3885 Před 4 lety +8

      Yeah the flintstones. That brings back memories. ..
      I wonder how many he could get on, before the inevitable happened. P.M.S.L. LOL LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👌✌🤟🤘🙈

    • @nathandarval1
      @nathandarval1 Před 4 lety +13

      pretty danm impressive.

    • @billwilson3665
      @billwilson3665 Před 4 lety +1

      And rides easily.

    • @colonelnord5260
      @colonelnord5260 Před 4 lety +1

      lol lol lol nice

    • @tomnovak7731
      @tomnovak7731 Před 4 lety +5

      Yes it was very third world kind of innovative.

  • @AndrewCastellanoReal
    @AndrewCastellanoReal Před 3 lety +64

    Wow, this kind of quality content made me feel that the internet is truly becoming a restorative force for human lifestyle on the planet

    • @victorrosales7565
      @victorrosales7565 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah

    • @jedi_mapperp4073
      @jedi_mapperp4073 Před 2 lety +1

      It does seem CZcams is maturing and the sharing and learning community is rising to the top, especially when the algorithm has dialed in the kinds of things you would naturally fit your interests.

    • @melanieenmats
      @melanieenmats Před 2 měsíci

      Also, the technique actually works even if you are a novice like me.

  • @severini8153
    @severini8153 Před rokem +8

    I finally got to try your method with 372xp 50cm bar
    Absolutely incredible. It's like boards out of thin air. Thank you so much!!!

  • @j.davidcox3783
    @j.davidcox3783 Před 3 lety +5

    I have been living off-the-grid (OTG) for over 17 years now. I have hand-built-cobbled and duct-taped together all sorts of things. None of them look as good as any of your stuff. I would not presume to give you any advice on anything whatsoever. You, sir, are wasted in law. Huge respect.

  • @ronaldroberts7221
    @ronaldroberts7221 Před 3 lety +239

    "If I had two hours to chop down a tree, I would spend one hour sharpening the blade" -Abraham Lincoln...thank you for sharing this information, I am very impressed...

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 3 lety +30

      Ronald, thank you for the great quote!

    • @nelisdrums9024
      @nelisdrums9024 Před 3 lety +37

      The time got me thinking so I looked it up, it's not an Abraham Lincoln quote but from an anonymous woodworker in 1956 (and he was talking minutes not hours) To Cut Down a Tree in Five Minutes Spend Three Minutes Sharpening Your Axe. :-) But the message is clear, even clearer without Abe's name.

    • @larsbee
      @larsbee Před 3 lety +2

      @@nelisdrums9024 thats too bad ... I thought I had found my favorite abe quote.... 😥

    • @donaldhrichard3482
      @donaldhrichard3482 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Advoko
      Karen or bust movie

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 Před 2 lety +1

      Not bad considering you take hours to prepare a delicious meal, and people eat it in minutes..

  • @silentwisdom7025
    @silentwisdom7025 Před 3 lety +139

    This technique is exactly the way I make perfectly (mostly) straight cuts with a diamond blade in concrete. If you bury the blade slowly and with great focus on accuracy you can just relax once your buried and let the natural position of the blade find it's true course. Pushing gently forward and listening to the machine is all that is needed to keep straight along the way.

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 Před 2 lety +3

      Love it!

    • @polliuyful
      @polliuyful Před 2 lety +3

      Was thinking the same about cutting stone with diamond carbide as well. Makes total sense.

    • @sannyassi73
      @sannyassi73 Před 2 lety +5

      This also works great with regular old wood and a circular saw, plunge first at one end then let the saw do the work instead of cutting the good old fashioned way- a bit awkward at first but it works very well.

    • @keithklassen5320
      @keithklassen5320 Před 2 lety +7

      I used to work at a small welding shop, and I was frequently tasked with cutting a compound angle on heavy steel tube using only a grinder with cutoff discs, as our bandsaw wasn't up to the task. I used the same sort of technique, taking great care to begin the cut and then using the initial cut to guide the blade.

    • @markhedquist9597
      @markhedquist9597 Před 2 lety +6

      I was just cutting concrete slab today for bathroom remodel. I use your same method. True in cutting various materials is also true in life: don't force it.

  • @mikewaldroup3426
    @mikewaldroup3426 Před 2 lety +9

    Great video. I have access to lots of eastern red cedar logs. I was thinking about the hassle of purchasing a chainsaw mill and then I watched your video. I followed your instructions and my very first log turned out beautifully. Letting the saw cut the way it wants saves time, fuel, wear and tear on the machine and yourself. You are a great teacher. Thank you for sharing your secrets instead of selling them. You have gained much respect by many. God bless you and your family.

    • @melanieenmats
      @melanieenmats Před 2 měsíci

      Worked wonderfully for me as well on the first try. I was stunned to see a nearly perfect board cut.

  • @vaughnblaylock6069
    @vaughnblaylock6069 Před 2 lety +3

    This is the same chainsaw that I became so frustrated with that one day on the way home from my farm, I pulled over on the side of the road, reached into the back of the truck, set the chainsaw on the shoulder of the highway, and drove to the nearest Echo dealership where I purchased the CS-590 that I've had for the last five years. I hear people say all the time that Stihl makes a great saw, but that wasn't my experience.
    Great advice on that. Your process there gave me an idea on how to field mill short logs, too, Max. One day when I get around to making it, I'll send you some pictures. Thanks so much for all of this and take care!

  • @gone725
    @gone725 Před 4 lety +14

    Hands down, this is the single most helpful chainsaw tutorial I have seen for felled trees. Came to the same conclusion on Alaskan mills and milling attachments, and have been relying on a ruler and chalk line for about a year. The swinging motion and limiting the number of teeth that come in contact with the wood has tripled my production, but not fuel usage. I just slabbed an 2 meter section of 45cm walnut - each slice took about 5 mins and maybe 1/4 tank of fuel with a Stihl MS271.

  • @BusHuxley
    @BusHuxley Před 4 lety +428

    This is an immensely useful and insightful guide to making primitive lumber squarely. Once again, I am reaffirmed in my suspicions that this is some of the finest content on the internet. Thank you for your time.

    • @aussiescraphunter7808
      @aussiescraphunter7808 Před 4 lety +11

      I gotta say l think you're right mate, there's that thing about practical demonstration using tools and methods most everybody can relate to that makes these videos so watchable

    • @tedbest4567
      @tedbest4567 Před 4 lety

      G

    • @AnEvolvingApe
      @AnEvolvingApe Před 4 lety

      I wish some other youtubers would try this method to validate it.

    • @aussiescraphunter7808
      @aussiescraphunter7808 Před 4 lety +13

      @@AnEvolvingApe I'm not a CZcamsr but l am a furniture maker, I tried it and it works for me

    • @curtisjohnson944
      @curtisjohnson944 Před 4 lety +9

      It works surprisingly well. Also, you don’t have to gear up with a bunch of new shit to find out for yourself.

  • @pierreoffice3823
    @pierreoffice3823 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Beautiful lesson my friend!
    I always love that the best tool for something is no tool but brain and heart 🫶

  • @mtmarcy4495
    @mtmarcy4495 Před 2 lety +88

    Much respect for your work ethic and approaches to problem solving. Every aspect of this video appealed to my artist-engineer- outdoorsman brain. Well worth the watch. Subscription earned.

  • @bsocmtomsdcs815
    @bsocmtomsdcs815 Před 3 lety +44

    I applied your concepts and with a little practice, I am convinced this is the absolute best chainsaw milling video on youtube. Chain stays sharp 10 times longer. I would suggest novices watch bucking billie ray’s videos on chain sharpening and make sure to use your gauge for guides so cuts stay nice and straight.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 3 lety +4

      Thank you for the feedback on the milling technique!

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 Před 2 lety

      These guys are better
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    • @TheJakeRobinson
      @TheJakeRobinson Před 2 lety +3

      @@rap3208 yeah but, Advoko Makes explains it better, he actually explains the "why" and the "how." if you presented to me those three videos of cutting the lumber I would have thought "wow that's impressive" but then I would think also "I wonder how the hell even do that?"
      the author makes their videos make sense. And yes, maybe they are executing better because they discovered the technique themselves and maybe they've had much more execution-experince but it does not discount the value of this particular video.
      Surely you can agree with the basic comparison that we're making here right?

  • @jasonjoiner2363
    @jasonjoiner2363 Před 3 lety +9

    You remind me of my late father,in that your simple,yet thoughtful approach yields the desired results. Thinking a thing through in order to get something that is otherwise unavailable to the man that's willing to accept the negative. Thanks for reminding me of a forgotten lesson from my Dad

  • @francisdaulby3809
    @francisdaulby3809 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Common sense so seldom seen it passes for genius. Excellent woodsman. Thank you from Canada

  • @raycarl
    @raycarl Před 2 lety +18

    Crazy coincidence; This morning never seeing this method, I used it on some beautiful red cedar logs and was surprised by the accuracy. Not the best, but pretty good. I am sure it will be better next time using a bit more care as I proceed through the log. And the best tip you gave, obviously is a properly sharpened chain.

  • @johnenger349
    @johnenger349 Před 4 lety +88

    I tried this method after seeing it in one of your videos on your other channel. I cut a massive elm log into slabs. It was so thick I had to roll it over half way through and cut from the other side. This method is so good, I was able to connect my cuts in the middle of the log. In all fairness, I was cutting very thick slabs and I had to do a bit of resurfacing, but still, a very good method.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 4 lety +14

      John, I am so glad the method worked well for you! Appreciate you feedback!
      Yes, I published this video on my main channel a while ago...

    • @johnenger349
      @johnenger349 Před 4 lety +12

      @@Advoko Keep up the great videos. I learn something every time!

    • @rufushowe3885
      @rufushowe3885 Před 4 lety

      I bent so many bars trying this technique

    • @rufushowe3885
      @rufushowe3885 Před 4 lety

      Any tips for helping me with this

    • @johnenger349
      @johnenger349 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rufushowe3885 A really sharp chain is important. Also, I should say, that my cuts widened out a bit more than his. I think this might help to keep the chain from binding. It was also my first attempt, so I could be totally wrong.

  • @jasongajentan643
    @jasongajentan643 Před 3 lety +38

    hahaha! To hell with the cutting method, let's talk about that fancy log moving scooter! Happy to have found your channel comrade!

  • @maibemiles3904
    @maibemiles3904 Před rokem +15

    Sharpness is a very important thing to maintain when using any cutting tools. Every so often I’ll be working on something and as the tool dulls I end up leaning harder on it or w/e and I really had to train myself to recognize these situations faster and instead of fighting with it, you take the ten or so minutes and go sharpen it. You might think it’ll take longer than if you just lean on it and force it (cuz you’re almost there!) but actually you’ll find to stop and go sharpen the tool, even though it takes some time will get the job done faster overall, not to mention you don’t have to fight with it, you won’t break the tool and ultimately you’re just being a better tradesman.

  • @markhedquist9597
    @markhedquist9597 Před 2 lety +36

    Excellent! This is exactly what I was waiting for. I am interested in starting to mill my own lumber. I like the method you have come up with for sawing straight boards. I also like that you went through all the pain of trying different jigs to come to the conclusion of this swinging method instead of me. Meaning, I am glad to learn from your experience. I'm anxious to see your progress with drying methods now. Thanks for sharing this, and I will stay tuned.

  • @DarrellBraunsLongThumbNail
    @DarrellBraunsLongThumbNail Před 3 lety +27

    I thought the wooded beardsman dragging a log with a Suzuki with the roof cut off was the craziest thing I had seen. This guy just strapped 2 to a scooter! Lmao! That's awesome

  • @bensnide5846
    @bensnide5846 Před 3 lety +13

    I wasn't to sure about this guy in the beginning of the video, but absolutely convinced this man is a craftsman by the end. Thank you for sharing some quality knowledge.

  • @jeremynicoletti9060
    @jeremynicoletti9060 Před 2 lety +5

    I tried this and it works very well. I even tried forcing it to make it cut a little faster, but the cut was no longer straight. You saved me a chainsaw mill! Thank you!

  • @alexandernicholson5125
    @alexandernicholson5125 Před 2 lety +7

    Its not just the chain being sharpened just right that is necessary for a straight cut. The bar also needs to be free of burs along its length, or the bur will grab at the wood on that side and pull. The bar also needs to have exactly the same amount of wear on either side of the chain groove, or the chain will not sit perfectly vertical, but will lean to one side, creating an angled cut. And ideally the chain will have been run for a few good hot cutting hours to break it in, so you can more easily maintain the correct tension on the chain while cutting. A loose chain can lead to all of the above mentioned problems.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for your input

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 Před 4 lety +3

    A tight schedule and not enough time to finish the job = "Necessity is the Mother of Invention". Your chainsaw plank tips are very helpful. Thanks.

  • @isaiahii6982
    @isaiahii6982 Před 4 lety +43

    You are a genius -- I get that feeling when watching your videos. I'm a very experienced woodworker/carpenter and highly educated in quite a few subjects but I feel I could learn so much from you, as I already have just from watching your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, experience, and wisdom. You have one of the best channels on CZcams.
    PS. I'm going to try this method.

  • @practicalporters
    @practicalporters Před 2 lety +2

    I just used everything he described and cut 7" wide, 11" tall by 22 feet long square logs ( 2 of them) to near perfection. Sold my Alaska Mill.
    Cheers from Fairbanks Alaska.
    Practical Porters

  • @Ekonnahn
    @Ekonnahn Před 2 lety +3

    Just saw this video and wanted to say thank you for the insight. I'm now working on a way to modify my chainsaw mill to allow the tip to sweep the log from side to side while advancing instead of using the length of the bar to make the cut. Wouldn't have thought of this without your video. Greatly appreciated!!

  • @Al828282
    @Al828282 Před 3 lety +18

    I tried something similar to this method:
    I used a $25 attachment that holds the chainsaw perpendicular to a 2x6. I made multiple passes, cutting 1" each time. When I got to 8" deep, I removed the attachment and cut the rest freehand.
    It worked!

    • @ariloves10
      @ariloves10 Před 2 lety +1

      Bravo!

    • @simonmasters3295
      @simonmasters3295 Před 2 lety

      I just tried it again...and not for the first time...on Ash. Quite a good result...and like Max says "your work doesn't stand still".

  • @shultz550
    @shultz550 Před 3 lety +14

    I could watch this guy's videos all day long.. I'd love to spend a summer with him learning his tricks and trades

  • @Sajuuk
    @Sajuuk Před 2 lety +13

    Amazing, your technique sounds like it shouldn't work yet you proved it by showing us in the video.
    I think you have saved lots of people extra work by sharing your secrets, thanks! 🙏

  • @brianweber1973
    @brianweber1973 Před 2 lety +10

    Thank you MaxEgorov! I learned a new technique which I will try in the coming weeks. My chainsaw is a Husqvarna 445 with an 18" (45cm) bar. It usually cuts very well with a sharp chain on most types of logs. We have plenty of forests & trees to work with here in Sweden, so it won't be long before I get to try your technique.

  • @65895555
    @65895555 Před 4 lety +10

    Advoko
    One of the best dam videos on rough cut logs, lumber I have seen. Your are totally correct sir, your methods make cutting those logs easy. I have been using the Alaska mill for years and kept buying bigger saws to mill through that thick lumber.
    I think you could get a smaller saw to swing easier. I have been using a Husqvarna 372 and 394 on the Alaska mill, but those saws are too heavy for swinging with a heavy bar. So I pulled out my old Husky 450 and I had great results swinging vertically with a sharp ripping chain. Took me less than half the time to cut the log with your methods than the Alaska mill going horizontal and running all those saw teeth contacting the wood.
    Thanks for your simple and effective method.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you for your feedback! Always good to hear that your life hack worked for someone else...

    • @millersfloorcoatings
      @millersfloorcoatings Před 3 měsíci

      Advoko, and Mr. 65895555, when using Advoko's method of vertical free hand milling with the swinging motion and just using the tip of the bar and chain, what kind of chain have you found works best? Skip tooth or full chisel? Advoko mentioned filing to 5 to 10 degree angle on the cutting tooth. Or is there a specific milling chain that works best for this method?
      By the way, thanks for your awesome advice and greetings from northern Minnesota.

  • @dwaynewhitley2145
    @dwaynewhitley2145 Před 3 lety +57

    I do not know how hard you have it in Russia, but you have proven that when a person uses their mind they can just about achieve anything! Unfortunately I'm scared that people are loosing the ability to think outside of the box anymore in which you have proven that you are a master at! I'm super impressed to say the least!!! I hope that people in other countries can and will learn to do things that are often seen as impossible! Thank you very much for your video!!!

    • @EYELEVELAwakening
      @EYELEVELAwakening Před 3 lety +3

      well said....

    • @LachskoenigIV
      @LachskoenigIV Před 2 lety

      Its hard to develop outside the box thinking when all your life is inside the box. Living in germany you simply don't get to experiment with the real fun stuff and the little experimenting you can do is expensive.

  • @rockinrick1207
    @rockinrick1207 Před rokem +2

    watching you ride the scooter with the log pieces on it was awesome

  • @levitanscule7544
    @levitanscule7544 Před rokem +2

    brilliant and modest man who listens to intuition

  • @romankultajev6231
    @romankultajev6231 Před 4 lety +6

    Just finished splitting a 35 inch wide log this way. Thank you for this advise, I reviewed several complicated ways (Alaskan Mill, etc) prior to this video, but you nailed it with your two simple secrets. Спасибо земляк!

  • @MF-le7fp
    @MF-le7fp Před 3 lety +27

    Consider a Husqvarna "Rancher 460" with a 24" bar. I've used Husqvarna chainsaws since the 1980s, and have always found them to be the best. I tried Stihl, McCullough, and Poulen, and found them all to be inferior to Husqvarna.
    A good many people swear by Stihl, but I'll take a Husqvarna over a Stihl, any day of the week. Husqvarna tend to be less expensive, and generally offer "more saw" at the same price point of a Stihl. For example, on average, $500 gets you 60cc Husqvarna with a 24" bar, and a 50cc Stihl with a 20" bar.
    If yall think I've "bumped my head", or I'm "smoking something", please chime in. I'd love to hear your opinions.
    Great video! Thanks for the lesson.
    P.S. You might seriously consider spending the $75 on a full face shield, and hard hat. Safety glasses are great for flying splinters, et al. But I can tell you from personal experience, that if it weren't for "company policy" requiring us to wear full face protection on the job running our saws, I'd either be sitting here missing my vision in one eye, along with half a face, and some nasty scarred over stitch work. Or not here at all. Although it's fairly rare, "bar kick back" can, and does happen. And when it does, it's instant, and can be brutally violent. In my case, I hit a strand of barb wire that had been grown over and concealed inside a tree I was clearing. Chain brake bar worked, but only milliseconds AFTER the chain at the top front edge of the bar slammed into my face shield.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 3 lety +11

      Thank you for your advice! I actually bought a Husqvarna 365 chainsaw recently. It was working as a champ so far...

    • @russellmckay8896
      @russellmckay8896 Před 3 lety +7

      I run Husqvarna myself and couldn't agree more. I used to cut firewood for part of my income, and used Stihl saws. Both of my Stihls were broke and borrowed a rancher 460. After a week I decided Husqvarna was the way to go

    • @westcoastrider3008
      @westcoastrider3008 Před 3 lety +1

      I love my husky 60 , I put a 28inch bar on it so you don't have to bend down to do grub work, can reach the ground standing up

    • @upstatecre8
      @upstatecre8 Před 2 lety

      Thank you for the safety reminder

  • @jeffjones6951
    @jeffjones6951 Před 2 lety +15

    Absolutely riveting! I'm going to do this myself. So beautiful, the craftsmanship in this video

  • @nameaboveallnames1267
    @nameaboveallnames1267 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is great for a man like me that has a Forrest full of trees and a pocket full of dust,thank you

  • @momohunkerton4294
    @momohunkerton4294 Před 4 lety +30

    You should narrate documentary films, you just have that kind of voice. Nice video

  • @chrisellertson3352
    @chrisellertson3352 Před 4 lety +13

    Excellent offering here thank you! Just recently I am back on my chain saw for all things at my home and was out of need having to cut an old poplar log this way. You are correct as the motion or swinging action with sharp chain creates the vertical cut, then repeat until quality is obtained. I am bulding a seated carving bench/sculptor's vise. From western Canada stay warm this winter!

  • @alancanyon9105
    @alancanyon9105 Před 2 lety +5

    Many decades ago, I stumbled on the same technique and found that it is very important to have level and unobstructed ground to operate from while doing this. Obstacles and uneven ground make walking backwards awkward-and uneven cutting the result. Loveya, bro. We live in the same world. I have lived in the Alaskan bush for well over 50 years, and TRULY feel closer to you than I do the people in Anchorage. I don't care what government is over us, our lives are the same. Wish we could meet.
    I have learned much from you, but I'm too old for this stuff. I'll pass it on to grandkids.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 lety +1

      Alan, thank you for the story

  • @c.r.angeconeb6009
    @c.r.angeconeb6009 Před 2 lety +2

    Tried , tested and true 👍 👌, never failed me over 33yrs of cutting and machining my own lumber, carbide chain is the next best thing 👌

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for the feedback on this lumbering technique!

  • @Shambala_G
    @Shambala_G Před 4 lety +9

    I tried out your technique today and it worked! Amazingly easy. I have been struggling with an alaskan style mill which even with a brand new chain was hard work, very hard on the motor and the chain blunted very quickly. I use an old Stihl 038 farmboss 66cc with a standard chain. Your method was much easier, less wearing on me and the machine and a lot quicker. I wore a lumbar support for my back, which I would definitely recommend. I actually enjoyed the process. It is strangely rewarding. Thank you for sharing this awesome technique and if anyone is not sure, give it a try. It doesn't need huge amounts of skill, the cut seems to make itself straight. Brilliant 👍😁

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 4 lety +2

      I appreciate you writing back to me! Glad this log cutting technique worked for you!

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Před 4 lety +229

    "it takes years to acquire simple wisdom." Socrates couldn't have said it better.

    • @MikeSmith-gv2wx
      @MikeSmith-gv2wx Před 4 lety +2

      Truth

    • @444soul2
      @444soul2 Před 4 lety

      @@MikeSmith-gv2wx czcams.com/video/dAyrhuBlM0g/video.html

    • @daninfrance2892
      @daninfrance2892 Před 4 lety +6

      The wisdom of those who work with their hands often surpasses the wisdom of those whose who sit on their ass.

    • @LitoGeorge
      @LitoGeorge Před 3 lety +1

      @@daninfrance2892 amen.

  • @tomsmith5216
    @tomsmith5216 Před 2 lety +2

    Popular Mechanics had incredible how-tos back in the day. My friends and I used to try making some of the things they published.

  • @ronniewilkerson2027
    @ronniewilkerson2027 Před 2 lety +5

    Logical, practical, and good advice. You trust the guide that takes you into an unknown forest so trust the guide that comes with the saw. Logic. Good video, keep em coming. 👍👍

  • @kellyweaver4452
    @kellyweaver4452 Před 3 lety +10

    Being a woman and homesteading is hard enough but building a cabin by myself has seemed like an impossibly hard project. You have changed my outlook! Your log cutting technique is going to save me a lot of time and money. Now I can't wait to get started! Thank you for sharing!!

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 3 lety +3

      Kelly, there were quite a few of first-time success stories with this technique under this video. One guy even sent a video link. I hope it works out for you too.

    • @echognomecal6742
      @echognomecal6742 Před 9 měsíci

      How's things going? :)

  • @toolsconsumables7055
    @toolsconsumables7055 Před 4 lety +11

    Dear Sir,
    You are highly adept at bush craft skills & you equally think in scientific terms when it comes to cutting efficiency. Not only is your cutting technique very good but yields an excellent result as a far more economical method compared to all these chainsaws kits made for cutting tree logs slabs. You understand very well the limitations of chainsaws & how best to exploit their power in a much simpler alternative. Very well done. Kind regards.

  • @tedjordan7567
    @tedjordan7567 Před 2 lety +4

    For anyone wondering this technique of the swinging motion absolutely works. I am a complete novice with a chainsaw - probably used one for 2 years to cut and buck dead trees and storm blown trees. I wanted to create a bench out of a nice oak tree that has blown over. I used this swinging method and it was far easier than any other method I tried.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 lety

      Ted, thank you for your feedback on the technique.

    • @practicalporters
      @practicalporters Před 2 lety

      Worked great for me too
      Cheers from Alaska

  • @illblud69
    @illblud69 Před 2 měsíci

    MS290 and or a Stihl 500i. This technique saved me years of failed cuts. You are awesome! Keep making videos, please.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you for the reply. I ended up going with Husqvarna 365 chainsaw...

  • @NikeMS11
    @NikeMS11 Před 3 lety +8

    There are some people who have extraordinary skills and vision, like this man....,then there is me.

  • @blairpolden946
    @blairpolden946 Před 3 lety +8

    I never plan on starting a chainsaw. I just like your voice. Years to acquire simple wisdom. Good people watch good videos. Russian and Canadians live in basically same environment. Different languages but a lot of the same traits. Tough independent.

  • @mattieb3152
    @mattieb3152 Před 2 lety +6

    I have some 1.8m cypress logs to slab out for seats in my back yard. Coming across your video was perfect timing. I have just bought a Husqvarna 460 with 20" bar. Have only done four cuts so far, two through seasoned , very hard and very dense, Australian grey gum logs and it cut really well.

    • @jimmyjames7015
      @jimmyjames7015 Před rokem

      I have a Echo Cs-352 16" Like new for a great price.. Any input on the model make?

  • @FeelLuckyToday
    @FeelLuckyToday Před 4 lety +5

    You are really a genius. I am blown away by your calm approach to every obstacle. Well done! Keep up doing the great work.

  • @Jimmy_in_Mexico
    @Jimmy_in_Mexico Před 4 lety +4

    I started cutting beams out of very big logs using this method last year. I used a chalk line to be able to get a straight line. After getting two huge beams from one log I started cutting some beams from some cedar trees and than ran them thru my table saw and jointer. I made a beautiful table with the boards.

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 4 lety +1

      Jimmy, thanks for the story. It is good to hear that this method works for others.

    • @kilobravo2373
      @kilobravo2373 Před 4 lety

      Any advice on drying/treating the lumber after you processed it? Did you just build the table and then stain/seal it in some way that worked out?

  • @urbanlumberjack
    @urbanlumberjack Před 2 lety +3

    I’ve watched this video several times now. I am so impressed by the results. I want to get into saw milling but really no space or budget for something fixed. I do, though, have a chainsaw and some axes that I know how to keep sharp!

  • @jacobsell9842
    @jacobsell9842 Před 2 lety +1

    Moving the logs with the scooter was EPIC! Dude, you just made my day!

  • @offgridoldfart8110
    @offgridoldfart8110 Před 3 lety +17

    When you first start saw let it idle for a few minutes to warm up inside of motor. Don't just start and rev it.
    Mix fuel 40 to 1.
    I have cut boards like you did in video. Works great.
    For sale: Alaskan log mill. Used 5 minutes.

    • @Klownguy22
      @Klownguy22 Před 3 lety

      My Sthil MS170 chainsaw suggest 50:1 mix min. 93 oct.
      Do they run better if it’s 40:1??

    • @offgridoldfart8110
      @offgridoldfart8110 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Klownguy22,they last longer due to more oil lubrication. I run smaller saws like yours 50 :1 but bigger saws (50cc and larger) 40:1.
      Especially cutting lumber like in video. Hope this helps.

    • @ericlee6816
      @ericlee6816 Před 3 lety

      @@offgridoldfart8110 alaskan mill for sale? Size? Price? Location? 423-617-5330

    • @gregmislick1117
      @gregmislick1117 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Klownguy22 the 40:1 mixture is leaner and will run hotter than 50:1 for the same volume of fuel. As noted you also get a little less lubrication. Gary says that he has run his larger saws on 40:1 - I can't say how much of a difference a 10:1 mixture ratio makes, it's not a lot but it is somehting.
      The higher octane rating will prevent "knock" or early detonation of the fuel/air charge inside the piston - Knock is bad, it damages things and reduces the power output etc etc.
      The higher octane rating will also make cold starts a little harder, I can't say that it's ever bothered me. I always use the 93 or 94 octane even though, as I just noticed on the fine print on the side of the 2 cycle mix I recently bought, it says that it works with 89 octane. My truck also says it runs on 87, and it does, but if I"m going to tow, or load it up and haul heavy I put in 93 there as well.
      DO NOT run your saw out of fuel - at the end of the tank you will run lean and under power and that will run HOT.
      Good Luck

    • @offgridoldfart8110
      @offgridoldfart8110 Před 3 lety

      @@ericlee6816 l all ready sold the mill.

  • @BernhardMasterson
    @BernhardMasterson Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing this method. I have been using it this fall and now get excellent results. Sending you big planks of gratitude.

  • @arctain1
    @arctain1 Před 2 lety +6

    This method works very, very well. I just finished milling 6 2inch boards out of a 20 foot section of a felled western cedar.
    However…
    The swing - while very easy - takes place on one side of your body. If you’re right-handed, you will have a tendency to swing reaching right. After doing it all day, you will feel how un-ergo-dynamic this position can be. I strongly suggest that you swing with your body facing the log. Your back will thank you.
    For an example of the correct way to do it, take a look at Max at the 10 minute mark.

  • @go-wycowboys5018
    @go-wycowboys5018 Před 3 lety +8

    Max I thought this was to good to be true. I used it this year getting firewood and found that it really works just as you said it did. THANK YOU!!

  • @sickofliberals9403
    @sickofliberals9403 Před 3 lety +6

    I have cut a lot of wood in my life but have never seen this done, I'm impressed👍👍

  • @lylemacdonald6672
    @lylemacdonald6672 Před 3 lety +6

    Discovered this video by chance as a friend is seeking help in such building methods. I have run a MS260 for a decade that has cut down and bucked at least 50 cord of firewood plus trail cutting and with the exception of one carb kit it has never let me down even during the hardest use. I have only used a 16 inch bar so as to better fit on my quad. Thank you for such an informative video. Regards from BC Canada 🇨🇦

  • @useyourheadpliz
    @useyourheadpliz Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the method. I'll definitely try it. I'd love to see a bit more of the very beginning process of cutting, as it feels like the crucial part (apart from sharpening) will be a good starting line horizontally and vertically.

  • @giacomocavalli1112
    @giacomocavalli1112 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Seen and immediately tried. What an excellent tecnique! Spasibo bol'shoe iz Ital'iy...BRAVO!

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Appreciate the feedback on the technique!

  • @satman1w
    @satman1w Před 4 lety +6

    I don't own a chainsaw. I don't cut the trees let alone make my own lumber, but I have carefully watched your video which is almost hypnotic, and I cannot remember the last time I did it with so much attention. Excellent work !

  • @georgeallalunis292
    @georgeallalunis292 Před 4 lety +3

    MS 360 Pro. Best saw I ever had. Great power to weight ratio. Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @chrissanders2077
    @chrissanders2077 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember watching one of your other videos, thinking you had to be bringing in supplies from outside because there's no way you could cut it that straight with just a chainsaw but you have proved me wrong. Great information!

  • @roberthurley9716
    @roberthurley9716 Před rokem +2

    If anyone asks me what method are used to make my lumber I will just tell them it is the Gorov method. I watched this video twice to grasp the cutting technique. For practice , after dark, I cut the chalk line about an inch deep while determining my angle. Then I’ve completed the hole cut in the dark and it works perfectly. If you put on another video make sure I spelled your name properly

  • @allfatherwoodcraft9874
    @allfatherwoodcraft9874 Před 4 lety +5

    The power of the ROOS!! Superbly spoken English as well. Kudos brother!

  • @jimmascaro2456
    @jimmascaro2456 Před 4 lety +13

    Just wonderful - your layout method reminds me of some traditional Japanese methods. Ive seen a number of different "portable mill" attachments that run into the thousands of dollars. Your method makes perfect sense.

  • @christopherbozeman6333
    @christopherbozeman6333 Před 2 lety +2

    My mentor told me to trust the tool and let it do the cutting, you're just the guide. Center yourself repeat your movements like a machine and it will do what you want it to do.
    I liked your portable steel mill. I've thought of this exact thing, you're experience helps me see what I can expect if I were to build one. Thank you sir.

  • @TheGroundskeeper
    @TheGroundskeeper Před 2 lety +3

    Many months since my last comment, we’ve learned a lot about the Alaska mill since then. I have a MS661 and do not regret holding a heavy saw. Go big.

  • @davekava3946
    @davekava3946 Před 3 lety +3

    I have been freehand milling with a STIHL 661 since I discovered this video. Whew. What an arm workout.

  • @sparticale1954
    @sparticale1954 Před 4 lety +6

    It's really good to watch truly motivated folk, I am sitting down at the moment have fun.

  • @watchful1168
    @watchful1168 Před 2 lety +20

    Well done...perfect timing to help me as I have my first 3 logs to mill into lumber for an outdoor kitchen and also for a woodworker's bench. Your recommendation of using the tip of the blade to reduce friction perfectly solves the problem I had when I started. Thanks brother!

  • @sionetafuna321
    @sionetafuna321 Před rokem

    First time coming across your video. Thank you very much for the great lumbering 101 lesson. I am from the South Pacific and in our islands there are great native trees for our lumber needs. Your simple, easy to use and practical teaching is very practical and very economical for our islands. Definitely I will spread your kind sharing with my friends, simply wonderful!

  • @17industries42
    @17industries42 Před 4 lety +301

    Straighter planks than the ones your get from the front of the rack in Home Depot

  • @mrbrown6421
    @mrbrown6421 Před 3 lety +4

    All advice is absolutely excellent.
    I learned to rip bowl blanks for my wood lathe with a chainsaw
    cutting almost parallel to the grain, which creates long
    spaghetti type 'sawdust'. Anybody that sees those
    beautiful piles of wood ribbons wants to know what
    jig I use....answer: my brain.
    I only use Stihl chain saws.
    I don't sharpen my chainsaws when they are dull.
    I sharpen them when they are not as sharp as possible.
    Thanks for Thinking!
    North Central Florida, USA

  • @franklynflores7489
    @franklynflores7489 Před měsícem

    Deng that motorcycle carrying those logs is the real deal for me hehe. Good JOb!

  • @ekim4943
    @ekim4943 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I’m a tree surgeon in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 and absolutely love your videos. You are an awesome inspiration to me. My advise regarding your issues with the Stihl 260 model, I prefer a Stihl 362. It is really reliable and always starts, even when extremely cold. Maybe this model chainsaw would perform better, also you can attach a longer bar, up to 32inches I think 🤔

    • @Advoko
      @Advoko  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thank you for your expert's advice! I ended up buying Echo 365 chainsaw..

  • @bhullinghorst
    @bhullinghorst Před 3 lety +5

    Your chainsaw video was one of the best I've seen on CZcams! You remind me of the old "tie hacks" who used to square railroad ties with an adz, walking from one end to the other with the adz cutting less than an inch from their feet. You are skilled and thoughtful!

  • @marceladrian8634
    @marceladrian8634 Před 3 lety +42

    I am more impressed by his chain sharpening vice.. lol

    • @rene5853
      @rene5853 Před 3 lety

      I'm more impressed by his scooter carrying logs

    • @lydiacapps709
      @lydiacapps709 Před 3 lety

      @Hello Marcel how are you doing

  • @KROOOZIN
    @KROOOZIN Před 2 lety +1

    Dude.... you're my kinda guy. I love the idea that you would consider "publishing research." I also really like the whole do-it-yer-damn-self attitude. Keep it up, and thanks.

  • @73Ille
    @73Ille Před 6 měsíci +1

    Tried your technique today and it really works like a charm. Just trusting that the tip of the saw goes streight. Excellent. Thanks and keep up the great work work...