How To Make a Neon Sign

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2021
  • Here a sign maker with over 30 years experience in the field and 12 years experience selling and developing LED products for the signage industry explains how you can create a custom made LED neon sign using LED Neon Flex.
    You'll need the following:
    Acrylic panel with paper template
    LED Neon Flex (we've used 5mm white neon flex with a 10mm cut point: www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...)
    Tinning Cable (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...)
    Rapid, super strength adhesive. We use MitreBond (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...)
    End caps to seal the ends of the neon flex (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk...)
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Komentáře • 202

  • @philhutchinson360
    @philhutchinson360 Před 3 lety +62

    Im getting such "How Its Made" vibes, and im living for it

  • @princessambas7675
    @princessambas7675 Před 3 lety +30

    Finally, a full and detailed tutorial! Thank you so much for this! Life and money saver ❤️

  • @Diegobh71
    @Diegobh71 Před rokem

    Perfect guide to make a neon sign, fully detailed, thank you very much! Subscribed already

  • @ahmedgulshankhaled7471
    @ahmedgulshankhaled7471 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so much for making such detailed vides about it. ❤️

  • @nagatouzumaki7265
    @nagatouzumaki7265 Před 3 lety +4

    Absolutely amazing! Thank you so much😭

  • @Weeesnaw
    @Weeesnaw Před 3 lety +15

    this is seriously the best tutorial ive seen! thank you!

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you! Happy to help. We'll hopefully have more content out soon :)

  • @amelyndesu
    @amelyndesu Před 2 lety

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @FrancescaKatieMaldonado
    @FrancescaKatieMaldonado Před 3 lety +3

    Love this pls upload part 2!!

  • @ttoma5757
    @ttoma5757 Před 2 lety +19

    Love this. Thank you for this tutorial! I'd love to give it a go now after watching this. Please show us how you got that shaped acrylic board. Also if i had to cut the Neon wire in an angle (like you did in this video), would it have to be exactly on the cut point?

  • @stcreativ9090
    @stcreativ9090 Před 2 lety

    beautifully explained! thanks XD

  • @blackswan1617
    @blackswan1617 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you sir, this helped me a lot

  • @persianplus5428
    @persianplus5428 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks man, this video is so great for me to start my business I had before this neon I used old LEDs❤️

    • @abdullahtahir6155
      @abdullahtahir6155 Před 3 lety

      Same here

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      That's great to hear; do check out our website - we supply sign makers with anything and everything required to make neon flex signs, and if you can't find the information or item you need; just get in touch!

    • @Blash1
      @Blash1 Před 2 lety

      Aren’t the neon just leds covered with silicon?

  • @SmittenKitten.
    @SmittenKitten. Před 2 lety

    You are the BEST! Thank you!!

  • @metaverse4631
    @metaverse4631 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! 😇 Superb... ❤️

  • @domainrajud6341
    @domainrajud6341 Před 3 lety

    Nice Job... Appreciated.

  • @albert8250
    @albert8250 Před 2 lety

    Good & Professional skill !

  • @mareetomlinson4503
    @mareetomlinson4503 Před rokem

    Wow thanks! I think I can make one too 😎

  • @waleedsarea4199
    @waleedsarea4199 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much

  • @wavandam9916
    @wavandam9916 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video. Enjoyed watching and learned so much from it. Will this glue also work well with outdoor signs and stick in rain and sun?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +4

      When using the neon flex for external use, it's important to ensure all connections are fully waterproof. Glue is not a guaranteed reliable solution; we recommend using winged neon (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex) which is push fit and does not need to be stuck down and doesn't require glue. You would need to route a channel into your acrylic back panel using an appropriate CNC cutter (see www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex-CNC-cutter). Alternatively you could use silicon to bond the neon. It is essential you make all the connections watertight, or better still, encase the sign in a clear acrylic box.

  • @Spectron
    @Spectron  Před 3 lety +7

    Glue are suitable for internal use only

  • @keepitup5394
    @keepitup5394 Před 3 lety

    Thanks man

  • @jyotirani8232
    @jyotirani8232 Před 2 lety +5

    Wow, interesting ❤️

  • @sslight
    @sslight Před rokem

    wow good~!!👍👍👍

  • @lacrimosavienna7713
    @lacrimosavienna7713 Před 3 lety +3

    hey thanks very good video..i've been looking for a video for weeks where something like this is designes. Would be very happy about a design video in which you might make simple shapes like this heart or even text. Would be very very happy. Thanks

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks Bruno - great suggestion, we've just started making our videos and have lots of content planned all aimed at making the process easy for you; so keep an eye out on our channel!

  • @arunabhalsod3657
    @arunabhalsod3657 Před 2 lety

    Thank you sir

  • @Nyxinc-lk8ox
    @Nyxinc-lk8ox Před 3 lety +13

    Thank you for this detailed tutorial !
    Do you know a website where we can get custom acrylic panels ?

    • @jcrew214
      @jcrew214 Před rokem

      How big of a sign do you need?

  • @shantellarojai
    @shantellarojai Před 2 lety

    I’m ordering everything else from the site you gave

  • @bobkearns6375
    @bobkearns6375 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, could a laser cutter be used to cut out the Chanel for the strip to be inserted rather than glued?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Yes we believe so; we know of a few sign makers who have used this method though it's not something we have personally tried.

  • @kaitlynenriquez1010
    @kaitlynenriquez1010 Před rokem +1

    Can anyone recommend a good supplier, website or store to buy the Acrylic Panels from?

  • @Jumpinginhappiness
    @Jumpinginhappiness Před 2 lety

    I tried doing this and my glue made the acrylic foggy and cloudy where the glue is. Did I do something wrong?

  • @mixalismixalhs471
    @mixalismixalhs471 Před rokem

    thanks a lot

  • @nelsongonzalez6292
    @nelsongonzalez6292 Před rokem

    thaank you so much

  • @kiernendardeen2103
    @kiernendardeen2103 Před rokem +1

    What temp is the soldering iron at?

  • @shashanksharma2210
    @shashanksharma2210 Před 2 lety

    from where i can but this neon strip? any online link

  • @leomatsinhe333
    @leomatsinhe333 Před 3 lety

    That’s for teaching me🔥😍, but I want to know how I made the background support for the neon ?!

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +4

      We use Adobe Illustrator to create our design and then send this to a fabricator (or CNC cutting provider) to cut a 5mm or 10mm thick acrylic back panel out to our design. They can router a channel out for you to stick the neon flex into (this will be shown in the next video), or you can use as template as in this video. You can also use PVC foam as a back panel. It is opaque and a cheaper alternative to acrylic. Hope that helps!

    • @JChakrapaniMori
      @JChakrapaniMori Před 2 lety

      Very interesting , but you didn't explain about power supply unit

  • @calistoo1
    @calistoo1 Před 2 lety +1

    Could you please make video from the beginning of the design on illustrator with measurements the thickness of the shape or letter please

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Hi! Please see our new tutorial, How to Create a CNC Cutting File in Adobe Illustrator - czcams.com/video/_skozJQqH7k/video.html

  • @LightballsRUs
    @LightballsRUs Před 2 lety +1

    okay I live in the US, can you tell me what to type in to find some of the tinning cables over here? I don't quite understand what it is I'm looking for!

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      We sell on our website under the Neonflex accessories section: Pre-soldered cables, we also ship to the US.

  • @jennifergruba8235
    @jennifergruba8235 Před 2 lety

    I am very excited to try some of this. I am in the US. Do you have a distributor here that I can purchase from? I cant seem to find some of these items here. Amazon too.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      HI Jennifer, we don't have a distributor in the US, unfortunately. However we do ship worldwide from the UK.

  • @MarkHogendobler
    @MarkHogendobler Před 3 lety +1

    Is there any concern about the very sharp angles damaging the LEDs? Most of the products I've looked at suggest a minimum bend radius. Thanks.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, thank you, that's a great point. We would recommend you follow product guidance. The 8mm neon we use is flexible to 350 degrees and the 5mm can bend back on itself.

    • @ivanlew5248
      @ivanlew5248 Před 3 lety

      With our special letter making Neonflex you can bend it back to itself without damaging it.

    • @MarkHogendobler
      @MarkHogendobler Před 3 lety

      @@ivanlew5248 where do I get this special neon led?

    • @lisaknowshomes
      @lisaknowshomes Před rokem

      @@Spectron 😮

  • @Ronwayne87
    @Ronwayne87 Před 2 lety

    making this at work aswell but we use a thicker material called Foam n I use my Cnc n make a 7mm groove wer the LEDs must lay an no need to use glue

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Yes, we have done that in the past and find it easier using glue, and it is more secure.

  • @noahlevine2838
    @noahlevine2838 Před 3 lety +2

    Do you add a dimmer at the end? I find that these lights can sometimes be way too bright for some people and I imagine a dimmer knob or switch wouldn't be impossible (albeit a bit obtrusive).

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      We didn't to this one, but yes you can add a dimmer. The neon we use isn't the brightest on the market, as we find that the brightest neon is, like you say, overwhelmingly bright for constant use, and it uses more power. It is also produces more heat which over time damages the LEDs.

  • @LiuteriaMarcellan
    @LiuteriaMarcellan Před 2 lety

    those 1cm cut Neon Flex are so hard to find....damn it

  • @jamilhussain50
    @jamilhussain50 Před 2 lety

    Hi, can you please tell me where can I buy the 100mm wier to connect for the neon. From uk. Thank you for a great video, rated 5*

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Hi Jamil you can buy the wire here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/

  • @Volume420
    @Volume420 Před 2 lety +1

    When cutting the neon at a angle is it okay to miss the solder point? I don’t understand how you can cut it that way and still solder it

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Yes it's fine, just try not to cut into the led chips. You can still solder it because you can cut into the silicone casing to "expose" the led strip inside. If you gently peel back the silicone to access the solder pads, you can solder your wires and then put the silicone tube back in place and glue any cuts you've made. If you're making an outdoor sign, we wouldn't recommend doing this unless you are 100% sure water cannot get through the silicone tube. Once you start practicing, it should become clearer!

  • @DSBDIGITAL
    @DSBDIGITAL Před 2 lety

    Where can I get the clear platform material you paste the neon onto also how do I cut it?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety +1

      Plastic Fabrication Companies. They may be able to cut it for you using a CNC machine.

  • @91rickstar
    @91rickstar Před 3 lety

    @Spectron LED when you say LED driver you mean 12v DC power supply right ? Because they are not AC ???

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      That's correct, we use a 12V DC power supply

  • @subodhpatel4617
    @subodhpatel4617 Před 10 měsíci

    hi This is a great video, can you advise where i can get the acrylic panel with paper template from.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 10 měsíci

      Hi, thanks! If you're in the UK, you could try searching for plastic and acrylic fabrication near you. They should be able to help.

  • @ketanramaiya291
    @ketanramaiya291 Před 3 lety +1

    It's fine

  • @djdnewworld
    @djdnewworld Před rokem +1

    Do you a video of the power outlet connecting the led strip?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem +1

      Sorry no, but a m/f connector can easily connect to a plug in power supply or a driver with an output of 12V.

  • @nataliepintor262
    @nataliepintor262 Před 3 lety

    What size acrylic sheet is that? Or what size are recommend for an indoor sign?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      The thickness of the acrylic depends on the size of the sign. As this is a small size sign, we used 5mm thick acrylic. For larger signs we tend to use 10mm thick. For external signs, you can use the same thickness as for internal, or better to box the sign in to protect against rain and adverse weather conditions.

  • @jaemcg
    @jaemcg Před 3 lety +1

    Where can I find the wire to connect the led sections?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      You can find them on our website here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/Pre-soldered-cable, or contact us at sales@spectronled.co.uk and we can go through some options for you

  • @liveevents9191
    @liveevents9191 Před rokem

    Nice Work,,,,what is the music in this video please?

  • @idkd9394
    @idkd9394 Před 3 lety

    Are there any alternatives for the adhesive? Will Gorilla Super Glue work?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      We've never tried gorilla super glue so not sure. To prevent overspill onto the acrylic we recommend you leave a vinyl template over the top of the sign

  • @earthangel6116
    @earthangel6116 Před 2 lety

    How thick should the acrylic panel be for small signs like this?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Hi, it depends on your budget, but we'd suggest 5-10mm. The thicker the acrylic, the more sturdy it is.

  • @cherryberry7304
    @cherryberry7304 Před 2 lety

    Hi lovely explanation, but what do you put on the end of it for someone to switch it on and off. x

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety +1

      You will require a 12v LED driver/Power supply to power it up which you can switch it on/off on the wall socket, or you could add an inline on/off switch or Wi-fi/Alexa plug.

    • @cherryberry582
      @cherryberry582 Před 2 lety

      @@Spectron Thank you sooo much😃

  • @tanvir335
    @tanvir335 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you suggest us a cnc machine to cut acrylic?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Tanvir, we actually outsource our cut back panels, but I believe they use an XYZ CNC machine with a tungsten carbide cutter.

  • @RockChic818
    @RockChic818 Před 3 lety

    Can you provide a link for the power cable you used?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/DC-Female-Connector-Clear-Cable

  • @wijnhardchivano1545
    @wijnhardchivano1545 Před rokem

    How do tou get the cutshaoe arround the text design

  • @owlytv
    @owlytv Před rokem +1

    Hi! Thanks for the tutorial! What power supply did you use please?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem

      From memory, a 12V 24W driver

    • @e.elsibea1518
      @e.elsibea1518 Před 7 měsíci

      @Spectron What power supply can you use besides that? It seems like that would be bulky for the a wall hanging, no?

  • @certifieddingus006
    @certifieddingus006 Před rokem +1

    Great tutorial but how are you powering it.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem

      If it is a small sign we solder a cable with DC female connector to the end piece and power using a plug in adaptor, 12V. Alternatively, we connect a 12V transformer.

  • @Juan_Frias
    @Juan_Frias Před 3 lety +1

    are the LED FLEX Neon PVC or Silicone, Will the 2 part glue work on Silicone FLEX LED?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      The neon flex is silicone and the 2 part glue works with no issues

    • @kelseygiddings1119
      @kelseygiddings1119 Před 3 lety

      What are the glues used for the two part application??

  • @ismadd1990
    @ismadd1990 Před 23 dny

    how to cut the acrylic sheet?

  • @itsolutionspro
    @itsolutionspro Před 3 lety +1

    gooood joooob

  • @jetteryanmagpantay5753
    @jetteryanmagpantay5753 Před 3 lety +1

    What kind of cable wire you used?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      We use ultra thin 28awg gold and sliver wire, ready tinned (pre-soldered) with a clear PVC sheath.
      Conductor diameter: 0.32mm, outer diameter 1.1mm.

  • @jabarvm298
    @jabarvm298 Před 2 lety +1

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @hudsonfranklin1690
    @hudsonfranklin1690 Před rokem

    how do you calculate the measure of each strip of tape at the right cutting point?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem

      You clip the neon flex into the channel until you reach the end point or join with another piece then mark the top of the neon flex then gently pull back out a couple of centimetres and cut. If you are cutting at an angle cut slightly proud to double check the angle then cut it down,

  • @RealVisahh
    @RealVisahh Před 3 lety

    Where did you get the power cable from?

  • @zodiachidalgo390
    @zodiachidalgo390 Před 2 lety

    nice technic.. can i use cyanoacrylate or Acrybond as a bonding adhesive? or it will not stick with the neon LED...

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Zodiac, we haven't tried those adhesives so can't comment, sorry! The reason we use the 2 part glue is because it bonds so quickly - in 10 seconds. There may be other products on the market that you can use, give them a go and let us know!

    • @zodiachidalgo390
      @zodiachidalgo390 Před 2 lety

      @@Spectron Thanks..

  • @OnVicio
    @OnVicio Před 3 lety

    Thats nice! whats de program to make the project of cut the acrilic?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      Hi! We use Adobe Illustrator for the design. Does that answer your question? :)

    • @OnVicio
      @OnVicio Před 3 lety

      @@Spectron Sure! Thanks!

  • @shantellarojai
    @shantellarojai Před 2 lety

    Where can I get the driver and alligator clips?

  • @Themortgageeducator
    @Themortgageeducator Před rokem

    Where can u get material?

  • @marmush00001
    @marmush00001 Před 2 lety

    Very clean. Where can I buy the 10mm cut gap?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      You can purchase it from our website www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk or email us at sales@spectronled.co.uk with your requirements, for you information we deliver all over the world, but please check with us for cost of delivery, for oversea orders we normally use DHL or Fedex air freight service.

    • @marmush00001
      @marmush00001 Před 2 lety

      @@Spectron thank you.

  • @jean220volts
    @jean220volts Před 2 lety

    What product do you use before gluing? An eraser?

  • @user-ri2ro5tx7v
    @user-ri2ro5tx7v Před 2 lety

    Do more videos please

  • @myrandamitchell9854
    @myrandamitchell9854 Před 10 měsíci

    How do you get the stencil on the acrylic board?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 10 měsíci

      You can create a scale drawing (we use adobe illustrator), print it and attach it to your panel.

  • @mirojunior284
    @mirojunior284 Před 8 měsíci

    gostei muito.

  • @samiam9190
    @samiam9190 Před 2 lety

    noun
    the chemical element of atomic number 10, an inert gaseous element of the noble gas group. It is obtained by the distillation of liquid air and is used in fluorescent lamps and advertising signs.

  • @stanisawmuszynski8978
    @stanisawmuszynski8978 Před 2 lety

    👍👏💪

  • @petakucas7389
    @petakucas7389 Před 2 lety

    100ml tinning cable for sign

  • @impressivesigns7130
    @impressivesigns7130 Před rokem

    Our flexi neon is silicon rubber?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem

      Hi - yes, the neon flex is made of silicone rubber.

  • @cmtetaboaco
    @cmtetaboaco Před 3 lety +1

    23 minutes to glue a led strip to a acrylic plate?

  • @devx1
    @devx1 Před 2 lety

    Where did you get this and what is its name? 9:13

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Hi, do you mean the soldering iron, or the pre-soldered cable?

  • @itsluis7
    @itsluis7 Před 2 lety

    Do you deliver to the US?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      Hi Luis, yes we do. Please contact us at sales@sectronled.co.uk and we will send you further info.

  • @gadgetststogo
    @gadgetststogo Před rokem

    where can we get the neon flex?

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před rokem

      Our web site www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/

  • @ayushisingh2139
    @ayushisingh2139 Před 3 lety

    Fucking awesome

  • @techack8745
    @techack8745 Před rokem

    You could finish it with one cut

  • @prakashlankeshwar7603
    @prakashlankeshwar7603 Před 2 lety +1

    Pear mtr. Cost of this led

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      The 5mm neon is £35.00 for 5 meters and the 8mm neon is £39.00 for 5 meters.

  • @JameelPetillo
    @JameelPetillo Před 2 lety

    Are you guys based in the US?

  • @vertexbuilderslimited1060

    play 3x speed

  • @redbullmoster65
    @redbullmoster65 Před 3 lety

    more more

  • @Juan_Frias
    @Juan_Frias Před 3 lety

    Where can I get the 2 part glue, I live in Los Angeles, CA USA

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      We sell it on our website: www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/mitrebond-single

    • @TheADHDIY
      @TheADHDIY Před 3 lety

      @@Spectron the website doesn’t seem to allow for a delivery method to the USA

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety

      @@TheADHDIY Not sure you can air-freight liquid to the US. Please contact us direct.

    • @jaemcg
      @jaemcg Před 3 lety

      Amazon

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    @williamhuang5329 Před 2 lety

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  • @aijazahmed7082
    @aijazahmed7082 Před 3 lety +1

    This is led not a neon tube

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      LED Neon Flex is designed to replace traditional glass neon. It is highly durable, fully flexible and easy to install. Made with a silicone or PVC material housing high powered LED Strip. Ours is cuttable at 10mm intervals, but this can vary depending on brand.

  • @archer1608
    @archer1608 Před rokem +1

    This is not neon, it's LED flex.

  • @DuleR33
    @DuleR33 Před 3 lety

    This is not neon!!! This is LED rope light.

  • @tres913
    @tres913 Před 10 měsíci +1

    LED is not neon!

  • @Spartacusse
    @Spartacusse Před 2 lety +2

    How to make a Neon Sign?
    Easy, get an LED strip and call it Neon a bunch of times.

    • @bryanr4338
      @bryanr4338 Před 2 lety +1

      100% agree! This is not neon! It's like calling a car a truck.

  • @MoonshineBlack.
    @MoonshineBlack. Před 2 lety

    The postage fees on your website are insane. Gone elsewhere.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 2 lety

      This is something we monitor regularly and they are in line with other trade suppliers. Our deliveries in the UK are next day as standard, and global rates are based on a three day transit time.

  • @CapApollo
    @CapApollo Před 2 lety

    with a little bit of time and patience.....ok .... byeee!!

  • @leaninglight6937
    @leaninglight6937 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for teaching me how to make LED line sign, not neon. Actual neon is from glass, not plastic. Learn the difference.

    • @Spectron
      @Spectron  Před 3 lety +1

      Please note the video description which reads: "Here a sign maker with over 30 years experience in the field and 12 years experience selling and developing LED products for the signage industry explains how you can create a custom made LED neon sign using LED Neon Flex."

    • @bryanr4338
      @bryanr4338 Před 2 lety

      Look up the definition of neon and you will see there is no way you can call this stuff neon. Nothing about it is neon. Please give it a name that does not say neon. Respect the craft and show some respect for what you do which is not making neon signs... how about this, cutting corners and silicone led strips that look similar to neon because we can't really make neon because that would require years of training, practice and dedication... Not to mention the science involved. Anyone with two hands and some time could make these signs. Neon will always be neon and the misinformation you people spread is downplaying the real artistry of neon!