Why I don't use circle hooks!!
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2019
- www.howtofish.com.au A lot of people ask me why I don't use circle hooks. The fact is that I do use them but not often. Most of my fishing is near the city of Melbourne where there is heavy fishing pressure and the fish often don't hook themselves. The angler needs to strike into fish and circle hooks don't work with this method. Circle hooks are great where the fish will hook themselves . For more information on how to catch fish go to www.howtofish.com.au
what most people on here dont realize that fishing is a one man sport and that man does what is best for him...it dont make him stupid or cant fish...ive never used a circle hook but i will in a few days...ive never had problems fishing and catching them....this guy was telling you what works for him..and i respect that....keep fishing and doing you....
Your explanation in this video is good, but I use circle hooks. I never get gut hooks and if you let fish hook themselves I find very reliable and effective as well. An additional factor is that I find it easier to put baits, and keep baits on circle hooks as well.
Hi, I agree. I use circle hooks at times but for the most part like to hook the fish myself. If you're catching fish then you're using the right hook for you. Good fishing.
If you're casting and retrieving or trolling J hook is pretty safe.
Well done.
Such a great video explaining the difference between both hooks.
Thank you
thanks for the feedback
Refreshing that someone is saying it how it is. I've noticed my hook up rate is significantly better surf fishing actively with braid and J hooks after fishing for 7 years using circles. There are not many videos on J hooks, even if you type in J hook you get lots of stuff on circle hooks.
Circle hooks aren't necessarily made for better hook up ratio. They are made for mouth/lip hooks. If you are fishing catch and release, its the better option unless you don't care about gut hooking and cutting the line off and rerigging. Which I prefer not to do most times. If you are fishing for food and hook up ratio, J hook would be better. So would letting the fish completely swallow the bait so you guarantee a gut hook. For guys like me that do a lot of native fishing, where you are catching fish you absolutely don't want to keep or injure, circle hooks are superior no matter the species or how they take the bait. I will normally use either a circle hook or a barbless J hook.
Yes agreed. My point is not many people discuss the better hook up rate of J hooks. Particularly when you are fishing for food and fish are tentative on the bite, J hooks work better in my experience. Surf fishing you might only get a few chances at a hook up so want them to stick.
@@jaredparkes8556 for sure. although my hookup rate with circle hooks isnt really that bad either.
I almost exclusively use circle hooks. The main reason is that they do get hooked in the corner of the mouth and then it makes for a better release. I also catch a lot of mullet on them but use a lot of berley with gents as bait.
I do know that a lot of people like to actively fish like you and set the hook and that's fine, I just don't like gut hooking.
I bet you sell them .
Nicely explained. God bless you.
thanks
Good vid Wayne.
I have some circle hooks and on some days they're ok when the fish just want to take the bait but when the same type of fish are more weary, the circle hooks don't cut it for me.
I've been using circle hooks for five years for live and dead bait fishing for pike, here in England. I like them so much that I'd never go back to trebles. In fact I like them so much that I now use them for carp, perch and zander.
Thanks for the information. I've never heard them being used for carp before.
I use both tbh they both have a job I find they don't work for Conger etc but with fish that grab the bait and move with it circle hooks are great
I agree. They both have their place.
You must be that guy I see on the wharf trying to jag every little nibble but actually catching very little, I dropped my hood sizes down and changed to circles and my catch rate has climbed enormously
Hi. What do you mean with HOOK SIZE?
Great information. Thank you so much.
thanks, glad you got some value out of the video.
@@howtofish5051 I did indeed. But one thing I don't understand....
I often get my bait eaten off circle hooks. Often I'm not aware of any action on my rod tip. Could it be that my hook is too big and that smaller fish are getting free meals without taking the whole hook???
@@dougiemac8417 There could be a number of reasons for this. If the hook is too big, as you say, then the small fish will pick your bait to pieces without ever getting hooked. If the bait is too soft it can be picked off without any movement on the rod tip. If the rod is too heavy for the small fish then it won't show any tip action as the bait is picked. If you have slack line the fish can pick at the bait without any indication on the rod...or there could be other reasons. That's fishing.
The reason I use lighter gear most of the time, which includes small hooks, is because your rod tip moves more and you see more activity. And the reason I use standard J hooks and Kirby style hooks is because I prefer to strike into fish...but I still use circle hooks at times.
@@howtofish5051 thank you so much for your wealth of information. I really appreciate you and your channel. I must take the time to watch, like and share more of your videos. Greatly appreciated. 👍🏾
Excellent! Thank you!
Glad you liked it.
The only reason i learned to use circle hooks,is for fishing tournaments. Its not lazy,its conscientous to the safety of the released fish. Yes hooks rust. But if you release a gut hooked fish ,it will die
But to each their own. Happy tight lines
I sell fishing tackle in New Zealand where we have used circle hooks for centuries. They work very well with mono, because it stretches. I dont reccomend circle hooks for straylining, or for use with braid. The other huge thing with circle hooks is they should be snelled or the loop going in from the front of the hook. But you cannot catch a fish on any hook if they dont put it in their mouth.
Thanks for the Information.
why not with braid?
What is best if the catfish are touchy ? They won't take the whole bait and it doesn't set itself. I bank fish so I'm having difficulties finding and catching catfish. Just trying to get it down pat.
I am been chasing Mulloway for 14 years now only hook i use is Circle to be specific Eagle Claw Billfish hooks i use braided with braided leader line never had a issue
tight lines....
thank you. helpful
Glad you got something out of it.
I take my young grandkids fishing for blue gills and perch quite often. They are just learning and are too young to understand the art of “active” fishing. I use circle hooks because thEy are very forgiving with young kids. I want them to enjoy the time fishing with grandpa and I don’t worry about skill and technique at this young age.
Thanks for sharing! Yes, I agree the circle hooks are great for allowing the fish to hook themselves and give a clean mouth hook up. Glad you can share your fishing experience with the grand kids.
Circle hooks vary with what fish you are going for, what bait you are using and where you are fishing. Best fish are open ocean tuna. They have big circular mouths, are not used to being fished and snatch and grab food. Circular hooks may not be as effective if your using a bait that gets between the tip of the hook and the shank. Also the fish in Port Phillip bay are very used to being fished and can be careful with what they strike at. Can gut hooking a fish mean you've taken too long to strike?
You make a good point. J hooks do end up in more gut hooking if you are not watching your rod...and sometimes even when you are. Having said this both circle hooks and J hooks have their place but how frequently they are used comes down to individual angler preference. I use both but given the preference I go with J hooks.
@@howtofish5051 What do people think about using circle hooks for flathead and snapper in heavily fished areas where the fish are used to being fished? ie piers. Circle hooks had their genesis more for open ocean pelagic fish that are not used to being fished. They snatch and grab without hesitation. Are you better off with a J hook in a heavily fished area? I guess it also depends on bait.
I'm having lots of trouble with the circle hooks i miss allot of fish with them.I'm changing back to j hooks
Use a offset circle hook and reel down on a fish dont set it
Stop slamming them when they bite ur pulling bait out of the fishes mouth..reel down or lift up slllooowwwwly
Use a smaller circle hook and don't set the hook, just slowly raise it when you feel a nibble.
You have to use a snell type knot along the shank for a circle hook to work properly, you can look it up on CZcams. Hope this helps
the reason youre missing is cuz youre setting the hook like a J hook. you really dont have to do anything with a circle hook except wait. once that fish swims away itll get hooked on its own.
I miss too many fish with circle hooks. I use J hooks only.
Yes, they both have their place but I find it is best to use the hook you have confidence in.
What are you some nut with Peta,
When I catch a fish he going straight to the skillet, and I don't care if I catch him by the tail...
Then you aren't a real fisherman.
Food is what it is !
Around here it’s the law to use inline circle hooks all along the Delaware river and Delaware bay in Pennsylvania and New Jersey
Hi, interesting to hear that they have passed laws on the types of hooks to use.
@@howtofish5051 increased undersized fish survival after being hooked is a pretty easy sell for passing law.
@@Well_Edumacated They are passing those laws everywhere now because they do indeed decrease mortality rates. I used to use J hooks for cobia but kept gut hooking and killing many undersized ones so I switched to circle hooks , just doing my part
I tend to get gutted hook every time I use circle hook. I follow the advice of letting the fish hook them self and it is mostly gutted. I feel bad.
Hi, I haven't had many gut hooked fish from circle hooks but your experience shows that any fish can be gut hooked ....no matter what hook is used.
Maybe you're not using a real circle hook.
Use a bigger hook, genuine octopus circle. Gamakatsu, bkk, or Mustad demon. Black magic kl5/0 are amazing but snell the hook. And they really only work with mono. But if they're getting gut hooked your hook is too small, and or you're hiding the bait in the hook. The hook point has to be well clear including the barb
*inline* circle hook
@@jordannijjar5414 are you snelling the hook so the leader is coming from the back of the hook to the front. Rigging is important
Do those hooks really rust? I don't think they do. Not in a reasonable amount of time for the fish to be okay. The hook you're showing the camera. I bet you could leave it in a glass of water for a year and go fishing with it just the same
the Victorian Fishing Authority Officers recommend cutting the line on a gut hooked fish and leaving the hook to rust rather than damaging the fish by trying to remove it. Based on this and having caught fish with hooks in them I can see that they do rust. But, as you say, bigger hooks take longer to rust...however, I'm amazed at what happens to my hooks when a little water gets into my tackle box. They seem to dissolve pretty quick!
J hooks are now illegal in Florida when shark fishing from the beach thanks for another regulation no one knows about until you get fined.
It's hard to support changes in regulations when they don't tell you when and why they are changing them.
@@howtofish5051 in our case it was a few dog walking Karen's who don't like us surf fishing complaining to politicians.
@@Randylayhe001 that's why I read the local regulations every year , ignorance isn't an excuse in my state
If that’s light wire, I’m scared to see your heavy hooks
The "set the hook" J hook drama is kinda silly, imo.
If you aren’t having success with circle hooks then you don’t know how to fish. Keep learning folks.
I've never had a problem with circle hooks either, the problem is when people try and use them like J hooks
If the fish is mouthy the circle hook isn't a good
Alot of times they won't take the full bait in its mouth.
It's not that we don't know how to use circle hooks it's just that circle hooks are more for people that prefer to use a more passive lazier approach to fishing where they don't have to set the hook themselves. whereas people that prefer j hooks prefer a more active style of fishing because you actually have to set the hook yourself.
I've been fishing for 25 years of my life and there are still certain situations where I prefer a j hook. I really only use circle hooks when I'm in a social situation fishing and talking to other people while I'm fishing and can't give my full attention to the fishing trip.
@@TheIconicFisherman ok, thanks. Only 25yrs. 42yrs here
I get just as many gut hooks with inline circle hooks. I can't see the advantage .
You could try a bigger hook so the hook is less likely to be swallowed completely. Not sure which circle hooks you used, but they should be straight so no off set. I've read those Gamakatsu Black Octopus Circle Hooks are not real circle hooks. I guess because of the suicide shank like in this video.
@@rockyslay4310 technically they aren't true circle hooks because the point is offset from the shank but they work the same as a regular circle
I dont use circelhooks
Using circle hooks is boring...there is no fun in just letting the fish swim away...I prefer to set the hook and have some fun
The hook is in the fishes mouth either way ... setting the hook is done in both if lines are attended ..and you always get corner of the mouth so if the fish has sharp teeth you have a great chance unlike J Hooks ...and yep a good fish is to good to catch only once ..Catch and Release what you dont eat .. Fresh fish eat only as frozen doesnt compare .. More excuses to go again and again and again.. And our kids will have fish as well .. Circles you set the hook but you have to be patient and not knee jerk react ..it takes more skill, allowing a fish to swim without spooking it then when the time is right you just casually lean back and set the hooks like a rock star , most fisherman are so wired they cant resist , Using Circles are a learnt skill of a experienced angler taught to the next angler . Takes experience and timing but the rewards are worth it
A man after my own heart , circle hooks are a con . Even on unattended set lines standard hooks work better for me .
For rod fishing where I set the hook I use sneck pattern hooks , or Mustard O'Shaughnessy or Kendal Kirby styles . Maybe on long lining circle hooks work better I don't know but I'm not buying anymore . I don't understand the big issue with gut hooking , first off it rarely happens and second just gut the fish and remove the hook . As long as you don't cut off the head or tail any fishing inspector will be ok with that .
Pro long liners ... Sword Fish etc etc .. Circles are the only hook they use and they drop 200 hooks each Bouy .. And they make $1000s of dollars as its there living ..and i cant believe im still reading these dumb comments and getting annoyed and commenting haha
I hate circle hooks.
Hi, I think they have their place but I much prefer to be active and hook the fish myself.
Im not watching this , i just read the title and read the notes . I dont have to watch this , cant believe you made the effort to actually show your total lack of knowledge to the public . Its about how bait is presented , its got absolutely nothing to do with the amount of fishing pressure in an area . Ridiculous . And you went to the effort . Haha .. wow .. Circles work great on Catch and Release in comparison.. You are part of the reason the fish stocks are pressured, sadly people are sheep and believe anything .. Luckily ..Some of us dont ... and hopefully the sheep people read the comments .
Sorry Grandpa, may be you don't fish enough.
Don't be a dickhead, I'm sure he's caught more fish than you in his lifetime.