4 HUGE Differences Between Movie and Book Ron Weasley - Harry Potter Explained
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- Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we're looking at the biggest differences between Book and Movie Ron Weasley. Ah, Ron Weasley. If you know him best from his character depiction in the Harry Potter book series, then the Ronald Weasley that you know and love is the courageous, quick-witted, and loyal best mate of Harry Potter. He’s also the youngest son, and sixth child of Molly and Arthur Weasley. And while some of that remains true for Ron’s character in the films, the majority of what’s consistent between the books and the movies is - rather surface level. I mean, yes, Ron is one of Harry’s bestest buds in the movies. And, yes, he remains the sixth son born to Mr. and Mrs. Weasley. But, other than these superficial details, there are many more character-defining qualities that were either changed substantially for the films, or omitted completely. In this video, I’ll be focusing on four of these major differences between book and film Ron.
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The movies definitely did Ron dirty. Gave almost all of his smart lines to Hermione.
I would like to see you also make a video about the differences between Neville in the books & the movie.
And ginny
Ron was so cool in the books, had loads of personality and character. In the movies he’s just “bloody hell” 😅☠️
In the movie Hermionie took Rons best roles that he had from the book smh
Facts
I know the movie pretty much turned Hermione into a Mary Sue while sidelining Ron as a feckless clown. Really disappoint how they butchered Ron's character to elevate Hermione in the films.
@@barbiquearea agreed one of the reasons I did not like the movies as much except for the first and third movies
@@MaxAndersonn I cannot believe you wrote "The third"! That is the WORST movie for Ron! Hopefully you meant to write "The second"!
@@anneclough7064 it’s just a movie for Harry Potter I mean not about Ron but I see what you mean
Movie Ron was little more than a comical buffoon. What a shame. Book Ron was the REAL source of info from the wizarding world. I truly think that Ron got short shrift in the movies.
Agreed. And Rupert Grint is a really good actor though very underrated compared to Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe. The movies did him just as dirty when they relegated Ron to a one dimensional comic relief.
@@barbiquearea His acting in the second movie was insane (Can we panic now?!😂). Rupert Grint and Daniel Radcliffe are both great comedy actors.
I'd even say that Rupert was the best of them in the first two movies, but in the last ones Emma and Daniel were better. I think that Daniel has developed the best, from the fifth part his performance was outstanding.
For me this started in the first movie when Ron gulped and squeaked at the prospect of going into the Forbidden Forest. I felt that director Chris Columbus decided to capitalize on that in the second movie (the same way Columbus overused the "Home Alone" scream throughout the first two films) and tried to replicate Ron's fear as comic instead of being true to the books. Subsequent directors just picked up on that error and perpetuated it.
@@jadrianverkouteren3799 Yeah, but Ron's fear in the second Movie was hilarious and Rupert grint played it perfect!
So I'm fine with it, I think it should be funny and it was.
Agreed, they made him the comedic relief , the killed so many characters personalities…
A love book Ron.
He also is a true friend not only to Harry but also to Hermione. Yes, he make sarcastic comments but he would never want to hurt them and would defend them anytime. Especially when Snapes insult Hermione in PoA im the werewolf-lesson when Eom stands up for her and gets detention. In the movie, he agreed with Snape. I mean whaaaat?
You captured the changes great. Book Ron is a trusted friend. Movie Ron is a clueless buffoon. As you said, Ron grew up surrounded by wizards, witches, and magic. Hermione and Harry were muggles. Yet, in the films, it's Hermione that does all the explanations, not Ron, although in the books, it's Ron, as he is from a wizarding family.
Physical changes can't be helped, as they were first hired as child actors. No one knew what each would grow up to be. However, I've always been disappointed that in such heavily CGI films, they never changed Daniel's blue eyes into Harry's green ones.
The reason why Daniel doesn’t have green eyes is because the green contacts bothered his eyes he was allergic to them.
If you cared to noticed at the end of the philosopher’s stone Harry is crying but not for the reason you think the reason behind the crying is because Daniel had an allergic reaction to the contacts he Initially had in causing him severe pain and him crying. That why when casting Lily potter they looked for someone with blue eyes to match Daniel. On another note you have to understand that this film was in the early 2000s cgi wasn’t that big yet so a lot of the scenes you see like the letters flying out the chimney or any other scene it was done with practical effects rather than computer generated.
As for your main subject of your rant the reason behind Ron Weasley not being as smart as he way is in the books well you can blame that on his actor Who flat out refused to read any of the books. He even admitted in interviews that he never read the books. So you can blame the actor and not the screen writers for that reason.
@@posionapple4836 you're blaming Rupert Grint for how his character was written in the films? What?? You think he had any say in what lines and scenes he had? You're not very bright are you? And name one source that states he has never read Harry Potter
@@posionapple4836 are you mad?!? Rupert Grint is already a fan of Harry Potter series even before the movies. He read the HP books, and also had phobia with spiders like Ron Weasley; that's one of the reasons he auditioned for that character.
i think it was Tom Felton who didn't know anything about Harry Potter series when he auditioned for the movie..
The films destroyed Ron's character more or less. Hermione got to shine at his cost. It's a good video. I look forward to see the one about Harry.
IMO, Harry is a fairly bland character, especially before Book 5.
They really put Ron down just to make Hermoine look better. Book Ron is more than just a useless comic relief sidekick. It's honestly demeaning to redheads.
Agreed. Ron was basically the trio's guide in the Wizarding World as both Harry and Hermione were ignorant about their world being a couple of fishes out of water. Plus he was the bravest out of the gang, going above and beyond and putting himself at risk for his friends.
As a redhead, I feel offended too :D
Tends to happen to male characters a lot these days. Make the boys and men look like incompetent morons so that the girls and women can look smarter and braver.
@@barbiquearea Bravest? Don't know when you consider that Harry accepted his death.
Hermione is the smartest, Ron is the bravest, and Harry is the strongest
Hermione was given huge favors in the movies compared to Ron and Harry. She stole so many lines from them. I think that the worst was when in the movies she came up with the idea to save buckbeak, while in the books it was Harry's idea.
Anyway, even in the books Ron wasn't one of my fav characters.
Realisticlly, it was actually Dumbledore
And in the last movie hermoine suggested to get on the dragon to escape gringotts but harry did in the books..the directors clearly favoured her
@@17thRepublic Nah, not really. He planned that Harry would came up wit the idea.
@@Karol-ei1fc Ah. I hsvent read PoA in years.
@@17thRepublic Do it
Please make one of these for poor Ginny, given no justice by the movies! I know you briefly mentioned this in another video, but I'd like to see more detail. Beware her infamous Bat Bogey Hex!
Also I'm very glad they didn't try to add freckles on Ron. The freckles would never have been able to be applied the same each time, and they'd move all over the place from scene to scene or movie to movie and cause a distraction.
There was an interview/meeting with J.K. Rowling and the actual writer of all the movies, Steve Kloves, where he told Rowling that his favorite character was Hermione. She said Hermione was also her favorite, and this explains why she got many of the best lines and is a much better movie character than she was in the book and Ron got demoted to laughing stock. Ron's character should have had a lot more input in the movies because of his background, but oddly enough they made him less of a jerk than the books did.
how- he told harry he parents were dead and he had no family but nothing of the sort was mentioned in the book
@@dattebayossadfry5919 Yeah... that line in the movie was jarring.
@@MitchMitchellStories no literally I was acc mad like that screen was in risk of being punched
@@dattebayossadfry5919 it was the horcrux ron had alot of insecurities you can see in goblett of fire where ron just stops talking or hanging with harry because he's aalways over shadowed. the line where ron tells harry he has no family was something deep inside that assured him harry isn't the better than him
@@burundianfamily2982 that makes sense but even when the horcux's influence, Ron is just not a person who would go that far
I do recall Ronald’s character in the film shouting the same phrase in The Sorcerer’s stone: “Are you a witch or not?” He was ensnared in both.
About Ron surely having access to broomsticks at home: yes he did, he and his brothers would use them to play Quidditch with apples in an orchard
Making Hermione perfect at the expense of Harry, and especially Ron was just a precursor to the misandry of modern Hollywood.
its a shame, I really think Rupert Grint could've bought the more likable and courageous book version of Ron to life, and Heck, while she's more recently got onto the Hollywood man hating band wagon, Emma Watson might have even been able to do a good job with the more rounded book Hermione (she's certainly snooty enough).
A shame both that the films didn't get this right, and that this trend of making the male cast look stupid to make the female cast look perfect caught on so much in Modern cinema.
The worst for me was the scene where Malfoy calls Hermione Mudblood.
Ron goes ballistic, both because Malfoy has made an essentially racist remark, and because he's made it about Hermione, yes, he winds up belching slugs, but that is essentially an aside (a bit of gross commic relief), to what is a pretty nasty scene.
Hermione herself is bewildered, but not offended in the same way Ron is, but the films made this a complete Hermione moment, just so she could get all upset and offended, and be comforted by Hagrid, while all Ron does is belch slugs and look gross.
not only does this remove Ron's moment of awesome, but it also spoils one of the essential things Rowling was trying to do in the books, by showing that its not a simple black and white, all purebloods are bad, all muggleborn wizards are good dichotomy, but a situation with real people, some of whom are of course scumbags, but some of whom affirmably are not! A very important lesson to remember for the times we're living in where, attitudes about "prejudice", or "privilege", have become increasingly polarised.
Yeahh that would make way more sense. Hermoine getting so offended over being called mudblood just didn't feel right. I mean, she lived with non magics and she never really heard the word before so for her to go all ballistic about it was just over reacting imo. I always thought Ron should've been more angry and I guess that's why
Movie Ron makes you wonder why he's in Gryffindor
According to some fanfics, because the Weasleys are Light Magic fanatics who hate everything they think is dark and even the color green.
Ron is basically what Chappelle's mom said to him, "son, sometimes you have to be the lion to be the lamb you really are." Ron's kindness for his friends give him to courage to protect them with no doubt.
This taking away of Ron Weasley's intelligence, knowledge, and bravery and bestowing them on Hermione may be a rather heavy-handed attempt at feminism, i.e., countering what might have been seen as a portrayal of females as weak, hysterical, and always needing a male's support.
I think Hermione was often hysterical and needs man support (in form of Ron and Harry). Often she was very emotional and cried a lot. She was so gifted and intelligent that she could defend herself, but lots of times she needed emotional support from Ron and (especially) Harry.
The perfect example for talent, bravery and a girl that can take care of herself is ginny. She was very talented, brave, naughty and a rational non-hysterical.
They made hermoine way too perfect . In book all three were imperfect in some sense
Harry - though harry was brave but suffers from hero complexities and often immature sometimes
Ron - brave , loyal and good hearted man but always suffers from insecurity and always in pressure to prove his worth in family .
Hermoine - highly intelligent knowing all sort of magic but way too emotional and always get nervous in dangerous situation so much she even forgets her spell .
In movies we do see harry and Ron imperfections but hermoine is always perfect .
They made her more hysterical and emotional in the movies though
@@lahavzaken6638 Yeah, I think that's the impactofacting and cinema.
And thats also whatthe ppl want to see. Action and emotions.
@@lahavzaken6638 I felt that did not benefit the character or performance and I've considered Hermione bad tempered and Ms. Watson a bad actor ever since.
Could you also do the differences between Remus Lupin and Sirius Black in the books and movies?
Might be wrong be I don’t think there are enough to make a video
@@cheeseboi8769 You're right. I think.
@@collegestudent9313 Sirius and Lupin are also my fav characters though
@@cheeseboi8769 Same.
every good quality of Ron were given to Hermonie
I always read the "Like the video" pop up in Snapes voice
That sound so funny in his voice 😭😭
There is a well-known interview with Rowling & The Scriptwriter, where they talk about the fact that the Scriptwriter's favorite character in the series is Hermione... They sit there laughing about it, which is why they took everything that made Ron great in the Book and gave it to Hermione and removed all of her problems. Additionally the fact that we can't hear Harry's internal dialogue he's also been 'airbrushed', since most of his snark & smarm comes from internal dialogue since we're in his head, and we don't get that here.
Hermione took the best actions and dialogue from:
RON ( most often)
Harry
Hagrid
Dumbledore
Tonks
Arthur Weasley (fixing Harry's glasses)
It's almost like...they wanted her to the the central character of the book. 😄
I think they wanted to establish Hermione as another main female character alongside Harry.
@@Karol-ei1fc Then why the overkill? Like...Harry suggests they jump on the dragon in Gringotts. It's already established, even in the movies, that Hermione hates flying. So, why is this Hermione's idea in the movies? It actually doesn't make sense....but they do it anyway.
What was Hermione's flaw in the movies? Following rules? Which...in the movies...doesnt cause nearly any strife. In the books, it almost cost her a friendship...or two. She's actually as close to a Mary Sue character as you can get....and still have Harry as the major protagonist. Any more, and she'll be dueling Voldemort herself. 😄
Thank you for making this video! Justice for Ron! (No shade on Rupert Grint).
This is a great idea! I'm glad that you are doing these "differences" videos.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR CONTENT, I have gces right now and this is helping me get through it. Please continue your great content
Rupert Grint have freckles in his arms, his back and face too, but the makeup cover it. I have a lot of pics of him without makeup, and i can confirm it, he has freckles.
His nose is also long in a lot of pictures, it depends on the angle. The only thing he doesn't have is the blue eyes and the tallness. It's easy to presume Ron's apparence from illustrated books made by a point of view of the illustrator of it, but have you seen the original sketches made by J.K R*wling when she was producing the books? Is much more like Rupert.
But the main thing that was changed in Ron from the movies was his personality because of the screenplay.
Also, If you watch the deleted scenes there's so much of book!ron in it.
Rupert Grint is the perfect Ron Weasley in many ways, but the directors and screenwriters just decided to shadow all his potential and tried to make him a comic relief just because of his "funny face". (watch the blu-rays interviews, you'll see chris columbus talking about it).
Rups did his best.
This man needs to get more recognized.
I also think it is difficult to hire a preteen and know for sure they will grow into the same appearance as the character (regarding tall and lanky) after puberty
Ron is awesome he's one my favorite characters
Me too and Neville and Snape
samee
Arthur Weasley and Snape for me. I like Ron more than Harry and Hermione.
Kloves (screenwriter responsible for turning Hermione into a Mary Sue) should have been called out before it ever got that far. Ron is so much more relatable in the books and he was reduced to an annoyance in the films. Left you wondering why anyone would befriend him. Thank you for taking on this task. It's not fun, but has to be confronted.
Bruv i got to applaud you for sticking with Harry Potter content. it's been years since the franchise/book series finished. But you are still keeping the magic alive.
How has the franchise ended? They are still releasing new movies in the franchise... The entire Magical beasts storyline is literally Harry Potter franchise.
The fandom is still going strong, both with movies/book sales and the fanfiction community.
@dalehammers4425 we don't talk about Fantastic Beasts.
Perfect timing! Just before I go to sleep 😴
Justice for Ron!
I had requested this last episode. Thanks
Video idea for you to do:
What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?
They can also be used to send spoken messages
Ron is one of my favorite characters too
I personally don’t care about the differences in appearance for any of the characters. However, in terms of personality, Ron’s character was mugged off so hard. Like he’s demoted from A tier to D tier.
I realize sometimes we must lose certain things when books are made into films. But, you are right, and that the book characters bear very few similarities to the film characters. And that was disappointing. It’s still made for interesting films and enjoyable films, but the differences as you point out are somewhat jarring. I appreciate this video, thank you very much!
Luckily these wonderful film adaptations came out when they did, otherwise current Hollywood naming / casting conventions would have replaced every instance of "Harry Potter" with "Hermione Granger" in the movie titles. Additional changes would be thus: Harry - an angry Goth - would simp for Aunt Petunia and have an angry, unrequited crush on Dudley. Ron would have a pronounced stutter, an 18-inch blue mohawk, be confined to a wheelchair and come from a large blended pureblood family. His parents, Mrs. and Mrs. Weasley own a combination BnB / Health food shoppe in Diagon Alley and for 50 galleons a week, they let Xenophilius Lovegood secretly sell Wizard-Hemp from a small back room. Hagrid is openly transitioning to Olympe Maxime. All of the House Elves are actually Squibs who identify as Furries. The basic premise: On Wednesday, 31 October 1981, after breaking into Lilly's home, Voldemort easily killed Lilly's Baby-Daddy, who had been cowering in the corner all day crying because Lilly had scolded him about not properly drying and storing her new spalted-Hornbeam Charcuterie Board. Lilly -- who had been showering - immediately leapt from the bathroom having only time to clad herself in a Quilted Flannel Invisibility Jacket and an old comfy pair of her late birth person's Doc Martens. Her wand was still absentmindedly stirring several ounces of pumpkin spice into a pitcher of iced-Vodka on the bathroom sink. The duo met at the threshold of Baby Harry’s nursery door. Her eyes locked with those of the Dark Lord and she saw that he was suddenly AFRAID. A grueling 45-minute combination wand-dual / epic martial arts battle ensued and using trickery, copious amounts of mansplaining and the occasional successful Levicorpus spell, Lord Voldemort managed to achieve a series of lucky shots with an enchanted SPAS-12 loaded with special 00 Dragon Heartstrings shells. He murdered Lilly Evans that night. He preceded through the nursery doorway and just as he reared up to his full height of 4-foot 8 and unleashed the killing curse upon baby Harry, two-year old Hermione Granger leapt in between them and using her binkie and two-newly formed buck teeth as pseudo-fulcrums, snapped-kicked the curse back into Lord Voldemort’s face, destroying his physical body immediately. Her secret shame was that she arrived too late to save Harry's strong, independent mother.
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No.
Currently writing a Harry Potter fanfiction, and these video's help me way more than you know. Thank you, really, thanks.
Ron is unpopular in the fanfiction community.
I think the movie writers personally didn’t like Ron
Filmmakers do this often, look at Gimli in LOTRs. . They do the same thing to him.
Please do one on Luna too!
Cool video!
It's a crime what they did to Ron's character in the movies
Thank you for this video. I know I'm super late but book Ron is one of the best, if not THE best Harry Potter character(s) out there! Certainly my favorite. We were robbed 🥺
I could not have agreed more. Ron is very downgraded in the movies from who he is in the books. He looks like a sort of Pettigrew fawning over famous Harry. It actually makes Harry look like a big headed bully in his ordering Ron around. They've done neither boy any service there and given Hermione almost Mary Sue status.
You should do a game vs book vs movie video with the characters
I hope CZcams doesn't get upset at me for sayin it like this, but... this is how I have to word it to speak my mind...
I honestly think compared to the Book Version, Rupert Grint got saddled & stuck with a Bastardized version of Ron. :(
Yall jk made it this way, she told the producers Hermione was the character she most related to. So they gave Hermione all the good bits so jk would like it. It was the producers jobs to keep jk happy so she would let them produce all the movies. They saw how big hp would be so did anything they could to get the rest of the books and ability to make them all.
Yes on this one I have to agree with you.
Can you do Hagrid
Totally agree!
I liked the movies. Yet I loved the books. What the movies gave me was a face and voice to the characters from the book. I knew going in the movies could not match the books. Any book to movie is 50-50 at best. The movies on their own are great if you’ve never read the books. Yet if you read the books you realize the differences and changes but can still enjoy the movies while loving the books.
Idea for video (if not already done) 10 most powerful witches & wizards post battle of Hogwarts
After the Prisoner of Azkaban, Ronald Weasley became little more than a prop. I thought that the only reason he wasn't killed off in the movies was because he was a central character in the books.
I also thought that the writers and directors were trying to get into Emma Watson's pants so they gave her the best lines and roles.
You actually assume that the writers and directors, working with hundreds of kids, were abusers???
@@turidlyksethwik8982 Well many of them have been proven to be...
@@dalehammers4425People that abuse children are everywhere. But assume that is the reason for writing and direct in favour of Emma Watsons character seems way out speculative.
Yes,they have given many Ron instance to Hermione and that is really bad,but still there are scenes and dialogues in movies which show his intelligence, courage,and power,so even though there are huge difference still he is a good character
The first time I saw the first move I didn’t like what they did to Ron Weasley and Neville Longbottom. That was my biggest complaint.
fred and george are the ones I personally didnt recognize at first since they are described as round/clunky. But in the movies they are more slim than even Ron xD
Well to be fair, their father in the books is tall and skinny and in the movies hes... not.
Ron got butchered. Poor guy!
I agree with your points, but your 4th point will be impossible when you cast a child for a role, there is no way to know how that child will grow up and how the person will look.
Can you do Uncle Vernon?
I think that Ron shows some bravery in the movies too. Like the Chessboard scene and in the Deathly Hallows part 1 when he saves Harry and destroys the locket. Otherwise I agree with you that Ron is very different from the books. But I do like Rupert Grint as an actor and I think he did a great job .
Oh I quite agree.
Agreed. The movie version of Ron is kind of a buffoon. And, since they gave most of his lines to Hermione, they could just as easily had Ron deliver them. It's different than when they took some of Dobby's storylines and gave them to Neville. Yes, it made Dobby less than important to HP. Some movie only fans may wonder why Harry was so upset about Dobby's death. But, since so much of Neville's storyline was removed in the movies, it gave us a look at his character gaining confidence. In other words, there was good purpose with the Neville-Dobby exchange. I don't get the Ron-Hermione exchange.
It seems like the movies made Ron less brave and more goofy in order to obtain an easier, lazier level of comic relief, and highlight Harry's and Hermione's qualities even more... This, paired with the fact that they changed their relationships too, as you cleverly point out in this video, leads me to theorize that writers, directors and other professionals involved in making the movies believed that Harry and Hermione would end up together, so they thought they would build up to that in terms of characters and relationships depictions.
I agree that it would have made more sense to give more lines about the wizarding world back to Ron. He gets a couple, but even then, Hermione outshines him in some detail. About the freckles, maybe the reason they didn't add them was for continuity. These days there are far too many sharp-eyed fans out there who'd no doubt notice that Ron's freckles move over the course of a scene/film/the series! Some things you just have to let slide
It rally is a shame they portrait Ron more as Harrys sidekick in the films
I agree 100 %. I am a movie watcher before books reader, so by the movies alone I had the impression that Ron is stupid, coward and useless. When I got the 7 books as a gift and I started to read, I was shocked to find out how much this is not true. The movies were just spitting on Ron's character which is awful. And about his appearance, they couldn't do anything about the tall and lengthy, but they could have created freckles for him in computer. And if we are talking about how a character should look like, the actor who plays Arthur Weasley is a big guy, while Arthur is described in the book as tall and slim. What is it with these movie creators? Like keeping Ralph Feins original eye color, instead of giving him Red eyes in computer. The actors who played the characters were phenomenal but bringing them from books to movies was not. Am I right?
I watched the movies before reading the books too, and although I liked Ron a lot, I got the impression of him being more of a comedic relief character rather than an actual strong member of the trio. When I read the books however, I was just completely shocked to see he was such a fleshed out character, with so much compassion, kindness, bravery, intelligence (streetsmartness, people-smart) and humor. Sure, Ron may not have been as heroic as Harry, or as book smart as Hermione, but he was his own thing and represented so many good qualities. He and his family were all so welcoming to Harry, and willing to defend anyone who was being bullied/mistreated. I love his character so much because I think he represents what a good friend should be like. Loyal and compassionate, but also flawed because after all he was human too. I'm so bummed the movies did him so dirty. Rupert Grint was FANTASTIC as Ron imo, he definitely liked the character he was playing and with his skills they could have portrayed Ron so much better!
Also, his flaws made a lot more sense in the books too, as it was shown way more how he was always overshadowed by someone, whether it be Harry or his own siblings, and it was only natural he'd feel some jealousy once in a while, but never want bad things to happen to the people overshadowing him.
@@yomommasofatthanoshadtosna3479 Right exactly. You are correct, and I love book Ron from the same reasons. I love watching the movies again from time to time, but when it comes to give the characters justice- Screw them! And it's not the fault of Rupert, Emma, Daniel non of the actors. The actors just do what they are told and payed for. Hack I would say even that Ron is much less funny in the books. Sure he can laugh, but the real jokers are the twins not him. Making him stupid was especially insulting to my eyes. And a coward also so terrible. And I get it, they had to cut some of the book when adapting to the big screen. But what they kept should have been done correctly, and it mostly didn't. Also if something enraged me in HBP movie- No "Battle Of The Astronomy Tower." Which was the most important in the book, and one of the most important at all.
But I liked Ron from the movies,there are many instances showing his bravery and other qualities
@@potterheads2977 Oh yeah defiantly I liked him too. But it's just not the same Ron. The acting of Rupert is excellent and I like him, I just don't like what they did to him in the movies.
@@eranshachar9954 yeah I understand it,but I know there are differences between movie Ron and Book Ron, it's mainly about the instances showing his qualities but even though in these problems still the base traits of two characters are same. The difference are mainly caused due to exclusion of many good scenes,but I don't think that make Ron a bad character,and these are negatives of film ,leave it,I always like say positives. In my point of view and as I understand from movies, movie Ron is a heroic character and I always love him
Another difference that anoyed me is that in the 5th book Ron becomes a prefect, and has his moment of glory because of it (he recives a new broom) and his mom shows that she is very proud....in the movie? Nothing, they don't even mention it, and as usual Ron is depicted as a goof.
HP fanfiction writers usually exaggerate the negative traits* of movie!Ron, so in most fanfics Ron is either tagging after Harry for his money/fame or not a close friend of Harry's.
TV Tropes has "Ron the Death Eater" for when heroic canon characters are villianous in fanfiction. It isn't USUALLY literal.
*Stupidity, poor aptitude at magic, laziness, gluttony, jealousy, disloyalty, blood supremency, tactlessness
Meanwhile, Hermione often has her canon personality, but sometimes is portrayed positively or negatively.
Harry is a blank slate in fanfics.
Just another reason why book and movie are two different canons
Sorry to reply late to this because I'm just listening to the podcast right now. I will be honest I didn't like reading in my teen years so I only watched the movies until I just read the books about 2 years ago. I wish that I did it the other way around because it's so hard to see anyone but the movie version of Ron even when reading the books. I was always confused why a good amount of people said that Ron was their favorite character because to me he was just very whiney. Now that you've explained the differences from the two Ron's, I'm going to try to wipe my memory of what I know about him and start fresh to see about this better Ron. Thanks for pointing this out. Love the podcast and channel
Thank-you!
As much as I love them, the movies really did Ron dirty. They turned Ron into a buffoon for comic relief and gave most of his best attributes, lines and moments from the books to Hermione.
Ron book to me equivalent of having streets smart and a lot of common sense
Agreed
Some day they will either remake these movies. When they do, they better get him right.
I hope they make a TV show sometime in the future. I know the movies finished not that long ago, but I'm hoping that I get to see a properly-done remake of the series in my lifetime..
SNAPE: Miss Granger, you're an insufferable know-it-all.
BOOK RON: (Jumps to her defense.)
SNAPE: Miss Granger, you're an insufferable know-it-all.
MOVIE RON: Yeah, facts.
Ron Weasley was my favorite character in the books. I have always been disappointed at the way they wrote him in the films. Almost NOTHING like Ron’s supposed to be in the books.
Where'd he get the muggle tape for his wand?
It's not muggle tape
Its spello tape
@@knightoftheislandcounter3330 Wizard tape?
The entire Weasley family was done dirty in the movies.
Hermione is awesome, there was no need to prop her up to the detriment of Ron.
I agree, she's impressingly badass enough in the books!
I think the most glaring difference is that Mr. Wesby is supposed to have green skin, four blood red horns, and three eyes.
He is also, to my memory, supposed to be allergic to carrot cake.
I'm glad to see someone else noticed.🤨
100% right
I totally agree with you. The movie Ron was such a disappointment
i feel that ron should have been in "real wizard chess" mode for the entire series
I was very disappointed on how the movies portrayed Ron. It's really too bad. I think people definitely need to read the books to really understand
Can we do the differences between Charlie in the book and the film
That would be impossible though, since there's virtually nothing shown of Charlie in the movies that can be compared to his character in the books.
I agree totally on all of the points made about Ron. I like Rupert Grint as an actor, but the butchering of Ron’s character makes me angry. There is only one point in this video I disagree with: Harry is not portrayed as smarter than he is, in the films. On the contrary, he often is made to appear more clueless than he actually is. In terms of academics, he and Ron have around a B average, I’d say. They don’t do poorly in most subjects, except for Potions and History of Magic. And that is because they have bad professors and/or don’t care about the subjects.
They are bad with Divination too, except when they made up doom and gloom predictions.
@@patrickhackett7881 yes, that’s true
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You can see in the top right corner the book that must not be named.
I'm seriously disappointed that you actually considered it a real HP book instead of a dumb fanfiction.
Remember in the alternate timeline when wanted fugitive Order member Ron Weasley does not know which way to hold his wand? "I'm armed!" [Turns his wand around] "...I'm armed!" He should be formidable, deadly in duels, because if not he wouldn't have lasted over 20 years against Voldemort's regime!
Hermione had big teeth that our family didn't want her to use Magic on that he had them reduced when she was cursed by Draco in 4th book
Only reason Ron got swapped out was because they could market Hermione better than Ron. A cute girl boys can fall in love with growing up.
I'm sure most of us had a crush on Emma Watson growing up. I know I did.
A shame but it is what it is in the entertainment business.
You’re quite right, they ruined Ron as well.
that the did love books more
I agree! Movie Ron is a poor choice for Griffendor with his cowardice, ignorance and idiocy. In the films, it’s a mystery why Ron would be a real friend to Harry, let alone a mate for Hermione. The funny sidekick meme went way too far in the movie, so far it undermined the entire story. For the movie version, it seemed to me that Harry was drawn to Ron’s family rather than to Ron himself. And the handling of the supposed romance between Ron and Hermione was one of the worst-written plot arcs of all.
He wasn't a coward even in the movies
At least the movies worked on his relationship with Hermione, Harry and Ginny got like 2 minutes screen time, yet were a huge storyline for about 4 books.
Movie Ron was brave (less so than in the books) and loyal. So he could only be in Gryffindor, since he is not hard-working or especially kind.
Yeah they did Ron dirty in the movies.
The screen writer did ron dirty...
i like harry potter
If a very capable female character would be turned into an incapable idiot, it would NOT be acceptable. People would be furious. If the same is done to a male character (and at the same time giving that character's strong qualities to a female character)... well, nobody cares. I don't quite understand why.
I wonder why this decision was made.
I assume its because Hermione became more popular overtime so they decided to build her up at the expense of Ron. It didn't help that Emma Watson is very pretty and perhaps more popular with audiences than Rupert Grint.