They lived in peace prior to 1948. The whole point saying that they don’t want peace is absurd as more than 3 million Jewish that escaped Europe during WW2 went to Palestine under the British occupation. It wasn’t until the establishment of an Israel state were the whole conflict started.
Golda Meir actually said "Peace will come when the Arabs start to love their children more than they hate us. We can forgive them for killing our children. We cannot forgive them from forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with them when they love their children more than they hate us"
@@alphabears6342 What do you mean lived in peace before 1948? The islamist arabs had been massacring jews across the middle including judea countless times before 1948, before 1918, before 1912, before 1900.... before 1700.....and so on
You can't equate Jews and Israel. Most Jews are anti Zionist, it is contrary to the teachings of Judaism. Zionism was started by a fringe sect of Ashkenazi jews, and initially excluded non European Jews.
Josh don't ever believe that these mo7ons on the pro hamas marches are anything other than a minority of normal educated reasonable people. The majority stand with Israel and against Jewish hate. Except muslims. From Manchester England UK
As a Christian, I know God has a covenant with the Jews, who are the real Isreal, not the country. But he promised that land to them. The Jews may not like us, but we are obligated by God to support Isreal and the Jewish people. God said a nation will be judged by the way it treats his people, Isreal.
I am a 44 years old Pole who has been living in various countries around the world. There is so much negativity against Jewish people I heard from others during my life that I also was “brainwashed” into believing all the lies. Thanks to you and double checking the facts you talk about I can see clearly how the truth is being twisted in a manner of creating some unknown hatred towards the Jewish people. Thank you for doing what you’re doing. It’s very educational and gives me personally great joy to learn about historical facts as well as creating my own opinion in regards to various religions. Peace !!
Salute to Intelligent Poles ! I been working many ears with a lot of Poles. Very open minded People that are putting antisemiting stereo types far behind !
Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds, and prayers and peace be upon our Noble Messenger, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, his family and companions, and those who follow them in righteousness until the Day of Judgment. Islam is what a person needs in his life to live in peace and die in comfort and tranquility.!
You mean his cherry picking of facts but facts nonetheless? I'm interested in the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That's the honesty that is highly valued. Not what this guy is doing.
They need to keep hearing the truth though. Eventually some of them will change their minds. Don't give up on calling out the falsehoods that are driving this disinformation campaign.
You can stand with israhell all day u want be like them Genocider at the end of the day your going to hell with them. And yes ur God jc dont like them neigther😢
@@ilias8972 It was not an insult but an observation. I proved the evidence and facts on my comment. Read the Versailles treaty documents and the documents who prove the aquisitions of Palestinian land by force and bribe after 1920. Also see the number of Judeofascists moved in Palestine starting with 1872. You and history are two parallel lines.
@@kephalosomphalosphalos You have messed up in your mind the Treaty of Versailles. This treaty ended the First World War and reshaped the borders. As a result, Ottoman Syria was given to Britain. After WW2, Britain decolonized its territories and as a result, Israel and Palestine were given their land. Palestinians refused to coexist with Jews in lands that were ruled by Ottomans for centuries. As a result they began a war. They lost. They began again a war in 1967 and they lost again. That's when Israel gained the West Bank, as a war reparation according to the Law of War. Israel was on the defense. Since then, Arabs gave started more wars and lost at all of them. Seems like they just don't know when to stop and every time after they lose, they play the victim. I like that you have confidence but you lack knowledge.
I like that you don't even know me but you're sure that you know the more about the subject and that only you know the truth. I literally studied military history. Go on, expose your ignorance.
@@AndyMann-vs3sf only if 1) you were education in Gaza or some other terrorist strong hold. 2) you have spent 90% or more of your life living under a rock, at the top of a tree, or abandoned on an island by yourself since you were 8 years old. 3) you've been in a coma since you were 8 years old. 4) you have a severe case of selective hearing. I'm sure there are some other scenarios but they would be along the same lines.
@@NR0162 What would you do if you were Israel after the Oct 7th attack? What would be your number? Just curious. What needs to be "made up" according to you?
@@guythetechguy Israel knew of the attack and they waited 7 hrs to respond. What would i do? Protect the border. Maybe do a specialist operation to take out hamas. Definetly not genocide an entire country.
We learnt all this in the early 90s when I was 15 at college in New Zealand. This was part of the curriculum back then. Thanks Mr Smith your social studies classes were very informative
@@kylebalmer3396 ????? The Americans aren't experts on the Middle East -- neither are the Europeans. Everyone seems intent on imposing a solution that seems just in their minds but no one is listening to the Arabs. The Arabs have been telling us since before 1948 that they do not want a 2-state solution. The charter of every Pally group says the same thing: the only acceptable solution to the conflict is a 1-state solution where Palestine is that nation and the Jewels' homeland does not exist.
It's more difficult to be constructive than destructive. They tried to overtake Jordan, the only friend they ever had, and payed with the black September.
@@joankelly5625 that's funny you accuse someone of saying things that are historically inaccurate without saying exactly how they got their information wrong but then you don't want to provide the details? Assuming they took the time to investigate the matter since they are making a video on it, the same as they have made several hundred others, what makes their information less credible than yours?
@@Diademic111 I take the time to research things I am not sure of. If someone wants to contradict me, they too can take the time that I took, and look it up themselves. It might get them into the habit of finding the truth instead of just making untruthful comments for the sake of making comments. Maybe it will become a habit for them which is what it should be. Reading between the lines and looking for the motives for why some people go out of their way to lie is really what I am trying to get at.
Israelis could return to their home countries. Palestinians want their entire country back. Zionist Jews GO HOME! US Taxpayers ... stop sending Money & Military gear to Israel. Arrest all the AIPAC Leaders & jail them!
Except that the they were driven out of their homeland and finally returned back in their full number. Even before the re-establishment of their nation, there was always a presence of their people in that land for thousands of years despite the vast majority of their people being scattered by the Romans. So do tell me, why do you consider them the “occupiers” of the land that they have always had a presence in? You are ignorant of basic history. The religion of the these people in the Quran attests to the existence and presence of the people of Israel in that land. Perhaps they should consider that after failing to destroy their neighbors numerous times, maybe there is a reason why they have failed? Perhaps they have done wrong in their actions towards the people that their Quran is reliant on?
the Boers BUILT South Africa... developed the farms that feed the country and much of Africa. without them, South Africa will starve, just like "Zimbabwe" did when the communist Mugabe tole the white Rhodesian's lands .
@@kieranharwood7186The Palestinians had the choice to select a good government and become an advanced civilisation like Israel but they chose terrorists and their leaders to eradicate Israel. They value their jihad more than their children who are you to ask for justification from Israel. They have no choice but to do the if they show mercy the terrorist will take that as a weakness and use more children as human shields in the future
@@hanschevli5702 Israel did the Nakba. Israel murder newborn babies and then pretend that they are the victims. They are not. Every defence of Israel reads more convincing when you switch the sides around. What choice do Palestinians have against a superior armed hostile occupying power that shows no mercy, your words? How can you condemn them when the Israelis show no mercy, your words? Nobody can come up with anything bad that Hamas has done that hasn't been done by the IDF. Half the time that people try they describe things that Hamas hadn't done but the IDF has.
@@hanschevli5702 Why would they accept Israel kicking them out of their homes and stealing stuff from them? No one ever used Human shields Israel murder civilians because they are trying to create an ethnically pure state. Israel didn't build anything either they took money from the US and Germany.
@@hanschevli5702 BS. neither israel nor the western countries that created it have ever had any intention of allowing a palestinian state. they are the real terrorists, not the palestinians. what you are saying is pure projection. the iof are the ones using human shields. they tie children to tanks ffs. you can't blow up apartment buildings and blame hamas for using human shields; that is such stupid propaganda. btw, "jihad" actually means striving to do one's best to do good, avoid evil and overcome the lower self or base humanity, not what you are trying to twist it into meaning.
@@organicmagic8822 indeed, the arabs supplying jews for the Holocaust is indeed a genocide and a sin: ARA, FAL, PLO, NBP, Houthi, Hamas, Amin al Husseini (1941 picture), Saddam Hussieni, Muhhamad Rashid Rida, Abbas, NSDAP
I always ask this question: the name was Palestinian Liberation Org. Founded when Judea was occupied by Jordan, and Gaza by Egypt. What exactly did they want to "liberate"? And from who? Those "pro-palestinian" activists can never answer. Thank you for addressing this issue!
Laughing out loud from the United States the Palestinians will never get rid of Israel Palestinians don't know how to fight all hey know how to do is protest. I live in the United States get out of my country and stop your crying
Thank you for educating us on how the thief, backed by the "police" can successfully continue stealing land and make it their own without being questioned or held accountable for almost 80 years now
Thank you for your insight and educating us. I come from the UK. This information should be put on main steam media, like the BBC. It is time for the rest of the world to wake up to this threat.
The zionists declared war on UK in 1946 and killed over a hundred at British HQ. This and other atrocities are still celebrated in Israel to this day. They continued to terrorise British official even after they had left the region. Charming people but not for me! Oren is strangely silent on this.
@@johnrichards6080 Oren does not present any facts but goes a stage further in the zionist rewrite. His stuff is unique. Love the way that he has Israel fighting wars before it existed!
@@johnrichards6080 Oren is reading from a daily changing script and is a laughable fraud. Netanyahu has spoken for years about his dream of 'wiping out the Arabs' and is now doing so. Is this complex? Not sure what Oren has added to anything. Seems a little unwell.
They also want the BILLIONS of "humanitarian aide" and their own section of the UN to continue. Never mentioning how Hamas leaders live in luxury hotels sitting on Billions that they have stolen from their ppl. Bc they indoctrinate their young (1/2 the pop is under 20 yrs old bc Israel is terrible at the so called "genocide" and the pop has 3x since 2007) to BLAME ALL THEIR PROBLEMS ON ISRAEL
Just like israel do. From the river to the sea is in likuds constitution. And they're proving they want all the land themselves by actually committing genocide right now.
other organizations and people, other than PLO to refute "oh its just some bad people.. its just 1 case" by the pro-palies: ARA, FAL, NBP, Houthi, Hamas, Amin al Husseini (1941 picture), Saddam Hussieni, Muhhamad Rashid Rida, Abbas, NSDAP, Golden Square of Iraq
@@farledj3461 Probably knows that real facts are not the same as the lies you falsely label facts. Almost everyone who can read already knows which are the lallah-lies and which are the true truths.
@@farledj3461 Oren is mostly factual and you can check that. If it doesn't fit your world view you need to re-examine your world view instead of ignoring these facts.
Are you ready to be arrested when you arrive back home to South Africa as your Foreign Minister promised? I can’t even see the South African flag on your uniform - only 🇮🇱. You appear to be a traitor, and even your own nation despises you. How does that make you feel?
It's more an opinion than Truth. Plo had his reason for doing that. They were compelled by International relations and Israel was against them with all its Power.
Oren you were the first person I listened to, to learn about Israel and Palestine, thank you and I just wish all the protestors would listen and learn the truth
This is exact point I try to make any time someone says the words "2 state solution". it does not exist, it is a piece of Western meddling that the Palis will never accept. Saying those words means someone from the West can stand and make themselves look like they are knowledgeable and righteous political geniuses, when the truth is that they are entirely ignorant of the reality.
Correct, by the Gazans accepting the notion of a two-state solution, puts them in a position to recognize Israel as a legitimate state. That, does not stand with their beliefs. 🙏 We stand with the truth, we stand with Israel 🇮🇱✝️✡️🕊️❤️
@@Axel_Andersen The Palis should figure out a way to cleanse the murderous 7th century ideology out of their heads and figure a way or ways to learn from and cooperate with Israeli society which accepts Arabs and provides them with opportunities and freedoms far beyond anything they have available in ANY Islamic society.
Just give them a state then, doesn't matter that they don't want it. Now they are just prisoners being abused. If they still attack after being given a state people will support anything you do
@@user-id9oi1py4t Which means what, exactly? These is no Palestinian people, so let's start there. They have not one artifact, no leaders pre-Arafat (the Egyptian), no currency, no culture, no history. Stop with the lies. They openly state in their charter that they want to kill all the Jews.
If china occupied a part of US, would it be reasonable for US to say they want to eliminate china occupied US? If written history determines who deserves the land, then should US citizens unoccupy their home and give to Native American that wish to occupy that areas again?
I appreciate you making more dedicated vertical shorts content even if I'm not a huge fan of shorts myself. You need to counter blatant lies and propaganda with truth back to back in the same format and this is an excellent way to do so.
palestine is the name the british gave to a land, its not an entity. so technicly, no one can be pro palestine, because there is no ideology connected to that word, nor does anyone in the conflict even made the land or the name even. so saying pro palestine is like me having a fight over a small piece of land in antarctica. and and then I say that those who think I should have that land are pro antarctica. which is very stupid.
@@y0abl012 Actually The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century bce occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv-Yafo and Gaza. The British have got nothing to do with the name India... It is part of their history from the fifth Century BC. The Greeks used it, the Persians used it. India was identified as a country besides the Indus river. It came from there.
@@AndyMann-vs3sf no it's not. Give an example. The region called Palestine is not called anything but Israel or Judea in the Bible. Philistine means invader, and has nothing to do with Palestine.
You could comment on why no state wanted to take the Jews from Germany. You should also comment that this was the exact excuse hit ler, who seems to be a role model for Ur state used.
There's research that shows that you can change the minds of people that believe in false things by presenting enough arguments to make them question those things. Don't give up.
@@DutchIsraeli yes, you are right! most of those people who are particularly outspoken about a certain topic already made up their minds, regardless of new information. however, there probably is a silent spectrum in the middle that might wander off into one or the other direction, if constantly feed with information by only one side. for those folks, those videos are surely helpful. it looks like as if I've forgotten about them; about which, I'm sorry.
By mistake you wrote down in text 90 years, rather than 19 years(between 1948 to 1967). But you say the facts as they are. Thank you for providing those historical facts, to prove the Taqyya.
I'm a Bahá'í here, and our Bahá'í World Centre is in Haifa. We remain uninvolved in politics, and have a delicate, respectful relationship with Israel, where Bahá'u'lláh was imprisoned in 1868, when it was Turkish. Only those Bahá'ís who work in offices, or gardens etc, come to Israel for 2 years or more, and then rotate out. We recognize ancient prophecies, and honor all holy places, and work to peacefully reconcile the prejudices that some people have.
Here is a topic you might like to address: when Israel was founded in 1948 about 800,000 Arabs left the area assigned to Israel by the UN. We hear a lot about them. But we hear almost nothing about the 800,000 Jews who were ejected from neighbouring Arab countries at the same time.
800,000 arabs ‘left’? They were forcibly removed in what is known today as the ‘Nakba’ and an ethnic cleansing of the arabs in those lands the new Israeli state began. My Grandad and his family were forcibly removed from Haifa, is what is today considered Israel.
@@nickn27 sure, but same as with Poland ejecting German citizens, they were left no choice. So everyone is talking about the Nakba, but no one is talking about the Muslim ‚brother‘ states sending Jews away from their homes. How very obvious because it did not/does not fit the prevailing narrative.
Zahir Muhse’in, who was a member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Executive Committee, said in a 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Trouw, “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.”
If Palestinians loved their children more than they hate Israel, they would live in peace
THAT IS THE TRUTH!
They first love their religion and death... everything else comes after...
They lived in peace prior to 1948. The whole point saying that they don’t want peace is absurd as more than 3 million Jewish that escaped Europe during WW2 went to Palestine under the British occupation. It wasn’t until the establishment of an Israel state were the whole conflict started.
Golda Meir actually said "Peace will come when the Arabs start to love their children more than they hate us. We can forgive them for killing our children. We cannot forgive them from forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with them when they love their children more than they hate us"
@@alphabears6342 What do you mean lived in peace before 1948? The islamist arabs had been massacring jews across the middle including judea countless times before 1948, before 1918, before 1912, before 1900.... before 1700.....and so on
Thank you. You have no idea how good it is to hear the truth, when all we Jews ever hear are lies about our own culture. You are truly blessed.
You can't equate Jews and Israel. Most Jews are anti Zionist, it is contrary to the teachings of Judaism. Zionism was started by a fringe sect of Ashkenazi jews, and initially excluded non European Jews.
You have to be really dumb and understand to believe this crap 😂
Josh don't ever believe that these mo7ons on the pro hamas marches are anything other than a minority of normal educated reasonable people. The majority stand with Israel and against Jewish hate. Except muslims.
From Manchester England UK
You are name stealers not one of your is from Jacob your all Europeans better known as Edomites you are from amalek the first grandson of esau
As a Christian, I know God has a covenant with the Jews, who are the real Isreal, not the country. But he promised that land to them. The Jews may not like us, but we are obligated by God to support Isreal and the Jewish people. God said a nation will be judged by the way it treats his people, Isreal.
I am a 44 years old Pole who has been living in various countries around the world. There is so much negativity against Jewish people I heard from others during my life that I also was “brainwashed” into believing all the lies. Thanks to you and double checking the facts you talk about I can see clearly how the truth is being twisted in a manner of creating some unknown hatred towards the Jewish people. Thank you for doing what you’re doing. It’s very educational and gives me personally great joy to learn about historical facts as well as creating my own opinion in regards to various religions. Peace !!
Salute to Intelligent Poles ! I been working many ears with a lot of Poles. Very open minded People that are putting antisemiting stereo types far behind !
It’s great to listen to this gentleman that knows the facts!!! Bless you sir🇨🇦
This man is SPOT ON. 😊😊😊😊
Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds, and prayers and peace be upon our Noble Messenger, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, his family and companions, and those who follow them in righteousness until the Day of Judgment.
Islam is what a person needs in his life to live in peace and die in comfort and tranquility.!
Lol shut up
You mean his cherry picking of facts but facts nonetheless? I'm interested in the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the truth. That's the honesty that is highly valued. Not what this guy is doing.
dig deeper
The truth is hard to swallow for those whose mouths are full of lies and cursing. I stand with Israel.
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They need to keep hearing the truth though. Eventually some of them will change their minds. Don't give up on calling out the falsehoods that are driving this disinformation campaign.
Facts, no one likes them. You can't use facts to convince people sadly...
The Jews are the eternal enemy of Muslims.
You can stand with israhell all day u want be like them Genocider at the end of the day your going to hell with them. And yes ur God jc dont like them neigther😢
I'm Greek, I studied military history and can say that your videos are totally right. Objective and based on facts.
You and history are two parallel lines!
@@kephalosomphalosphalos As usual, people like you just insult without providing facts or evidence to prove their point.
@@ilias8972 It was not an insult but an observation. I proved the evidence and facts on my comment. Read the Versailles treaty documents and the documents who prove the aquisitions of Palestinian land by force and bribe after 1920. Also see the number of Judeofascists moved in Palestine starting with 1872.
You and history are two parallel lines.
@@kephalosomphalosphalos You have messed up in your mind the Treaty of Versailles. This treaty ended the First World War and reshaped the borders. As a result, Ottoman Syria was given to Britain. After WW2, Britain decolonized its territories and as a result, Israel and Palestine were given their land. Palestinians refused to coexist with Jews in lands that were ruled by Ottomans for centuries. As a result they began a war. They lost. They began again a war in 1967 and they lost again. That's when Israel gained the West Bank, as a war reparation according to the Law of War. Israel was on the defense. Since then, Arabs gave started more wars and lost at all of them. Seems like they just don't know when to stop and every time after they lose, they play the victim. I like that you have confidence but you lack knowledge.
I like that you don't even know me but you're sure that you know the more about the subject and that only you know the truth. I literally studied military history. Go on, expose your ignorance.
Your’re very honest & straigth man, accepting the truths will set you free.
This fella is truthful as well..
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He has accepted gecide as his religion
He has accepted gecide as his religion
Thank you from Ireland. Let's free Palestinians from Hamas.
free eire from the irish while you're at it
and Fatah (which is the PLO, and are actually not so different from Hamas)
Facts! USA students have gone mad.
@NorseMythology-pv1egMorally upstanding? I doubt that.
Wow, I live in America and can say “morality” is at an all time Low…. “as in the days of Noah…”
@@paultorbert6929 right on
@NorseMythology-pv1eg actually, totally true. Where have you been?
No chance.
Oren can bullshit as much as he wants.
Like you he is soulless and ignorant.
Oren, your videos are so important, to counter the lies and false narratives. Please keep them coming!
Oren is creating bizarre new narratives.
@@AndyMann-vs3sf only if
1) you were education in Gaza or some other terrorist strong hold.
2) you have spent 90% or more of your life living under a rock, at the top of a tree, or abandoned on an island by yourself since you were 8 years old.
3) you've been in a coma since you were 8 years old.
4) you have a severe case of selective hearing.
I'm sure there are some other scenarios but they would be along the same lines.
Does not make up for bombing 30k
@@NR0162 What would you do if you were Israel after the Oct 7th attack? What would be your number? Just curious. What needs to be "made up" according to you?
@@guythetechguy Israel knew of the attack and they waited 7 hrs to respond. What would i do? Protect the border. Maybe do a specialist operation to take out hamas. Definetly not genocide an entire country.
We learnt all this in the early 90s when I was 15 at college in New Zealand. This was part of the curriculum back then. Thanks Mr Smith your social studies classes were very informative
Independence is the ultimate desire for every state.
100% correct as per usual, sir. Keep it going. Stay safe.
Get a functional brain and learn the basic history!
I see as an american you're obviously an expert on middle eastern political history
@@kylebalmer3396 I'm not an American.You don't know the facts about anything, obviously 🙄.
@@kylebalmer3396 💀
@@kylebalmer3396 ????? The Americans aren't experts on the Middle East -- neither are the Europeans. Everyone seems intent on imposing a solution that seems just in their minds but no one is listening to the Arabs.
The Arabs have been telling us since before 1948 that they do not want a 2-state solution. The charter of every Pally group says the same thing: the only acceptable solution to the conflict is a 1-state solution where Palestine is that nation and the Jewels' homeland does not exist.
Brother, love what you do...👍I stand with ISRAEL 🇮🇱 💯 ❤️ 🙌 👏 🙏
Love ? That's hate speech
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@user-gx1lc4qn5s the truth hurts? 🤔
You stand with antihumanity*
Stop believing the Iies
@user-gx1lc4qn5s you are like a vulture or even a roach
I am Greek and I stand with Israel!
you got my vote when you said 'piss you off'...... brilliantly expressed :-) Glory to Israel! Glory to Ukraine! Stay safe brother.
And then they tried to overthrow the Jordanian monarchy.
Then they succeeded in destabilising the Maronite Christian Lebanon
England gave Hashimite Arabs Jordon after WW1 stole Occupied Ottoman Turkish lands who stole Occupied Greek lands.
@@redactedagentdataexpunged9431Lebanon now apartheid Islamic state.
@@MitzvosGolem1 let's not forget that both Syria and Lebanon are colonial states created by the French .
@MitzvosGoleitm1 it was administered by the UK under a UN Mandate, so the UN gave the land to Israel, not England...
It's more difficult to be constructive than destructive. They tried to overtake Jordan, the only friend they ever had, and payed with the black September.
He's actually right but most people are idiots so you can't help them.... Just read their tantrum rants.
I've thought along those lines many times. Thank you for providing historical detail with an excellent presentation!
His historical data is wrong. He has left out the most important details.
@@joankelly5625 well why don't you just provide us with those important details?
@@Diademic111 I took the time to look them up so you can do the same.
@@joankelly5625 that's funny you accuse someone of saying things that are historically inaccurate without saying exactly how they got their information wrong but then you don't want to provide the details? Assuming they took the time to investigate the matter since they are making a video on it, the same as they have made several hundred others, what makes their information less credible than yours?
@@Diademic111 I take the time to research things I am not sure of. If someone wants to contradict me, they too can take the time that I took, and look it up themselves. It might get them into the habit of finding the truth instead of just making untruthful comments for the sake of making comments. Maybe it will become a habit for them which is what it should be. Reading between the lines and looking for the motives for why some people go out of their way to lie is really what I am trying to get at.
God bless you and this channel!
Israelis could return to their home countries. Palestinians want their entire country back. Zionist Jews GO HOME!
US Taxpayers ... stop sending Money & Military gear to Israel. Arrest all the AIPAC Leaders & jail them!
He sounds like one of those Boers who invaded South Africa.
You do know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Arabs came to Mandate Palestine to work for the British, right?? They aren't native to the land.
Except that the they were driven out of their homeland and finally returned back in their full number.
Even before the re-establishment of their nation, there was always a presence of their people in that land for thousands of years despite the vast majority of their people being scattered by the Romans.
So do tell me, why do you consider them the “occupiers” of the land that they have always had a presence in?
You are ignorant of basic history. The religion of the these people in the Quran attests to the existence and presence of the people of Israel in that land.
Perhaps they should consider that after failing to destroy their neighbors numerous times, maybe there is a reason why they have failed?
Perhaps they have done wrong in their actions towards the people that their Quran is reliant on?
the Boers BUILT South Africa... developed the farms that feed the country and much of Africa. without them, South Africa will starve, just like "Zimbabwe" did when the communist Mugabe tole the white Rhodesian's lands .
Let's increase this man's reach so all those pro palastinians could open their eyes
1) He's wrong
2) Even if he was right, it doesn't justify slaughtering thousands of babies
3) Why do you think that it does?
@@kieranharwood7186The Palestinians had the choice to select a good government and become an advanced civilisation like Israel but they chose terrorists and their leaders to eradicate Israel. They value their jihad more than their children who are you to ask for justification from Israel. They have no choice but to do the if they show mercy the terrorist will take that as a weakness and use more children as human shields in the future
@@hanschevli5702 Israel did the Nakba.
Israel murder newborn babies and then pretend that they are the victims. They are not.
Every defence of Israel reads more convincing when you switch the sides around. What choice do Palestinians have against a superior armed hostile occupying power that shows no mercy, your words? How can you condemn them when the Israelis show no mercy, your words?
Nobody can come up with anything bad that Hamas has done that hasn't been done by the IDF. Half the time that people try they describe things that Hamas hadn't done but the IDF has.
@@hanschevli5702 Why would they accept Israel kicking them out of their homes and stealing stuff from them? No one ever used Human shields Israel murder civilians because they are trying to create an ethnically pure state. Israel didn't build anything either they took money from the US and Germany.
@@hanschevli5702 BS. neither israel nor the western countries that created it have ever had any intention of allowing a palestinian state. they are the real terrorists, not the palestinians. what you are saying is pure projection. the iof are the ones using human shields. they tie children to tanks ffs. you can't blow up apartment buildings and blame hamas for using human shields; that is such stupid propaganda. btw, "jihad" actually means striving to do one's best to do good, avoid evil and overcome the lower self or base humanity, not what you are trying to twist it into meaning.
100% on your side, because you are right and you always argue rationally with undeniable FACTS.
g€nocide is a sin
@@organicmagic8822yes October 7th genocide is a sin
@@mmjj2534 Yes, Israel and €bang€licals are a Sin, lol
@@organicmagic8822 indeed, the arabs supplying jews for the Holocaust is indeed a genocide and a sin: ARA, FAL, PLO, NBP, Houthi, Hamas, Amin al Husseini (1941 picture), Saddam Hussieni, Muhhamad Rashid Rida, Abbas, NSDAP
@@organicmagic8822 Then Muslims should stop practicing it
I always ask this question: the name was Palestinian Liberation Org. Founded when Judea was occupied by Jordan, and Gaza by Egypt. What exactly did they want to "liberate"? And from who? Those "pro-palestinian" activists can never answer.
Thank you for addressing this issue!
Laughing out loud from the United States the Palestinians will never get rid of Israel Palestinians don't know how to fight all hey know how to do is protest. I live in the United States get out of my country and stop your crying
Exactly why Arafat rejected every state making opportunities
Good coffins for good anti-Semites!!! Хорошим юдофобам -- хорошие гробы !!!
@@DEADLY-LURES-AU g€nocide is a sin
@@DEADLY-LURES-AU he was playing the victim all the time too
Thank you for educating us on how the thief, backed by the "police" can successfully continue stealing land and make it their own without being questioned or held accountable for almost 80 years now
You just take majority of their land and wonder why they're unhappy
Thank you for your insight and educating us. I come from the UK. This information should be put on main steam media, like the BBC. It is time for the rest of the world to wake up to this threat.
The zionists declared war on UK in 1946 and killed over a hundred at British HQ.
This and other atrocities are still celebrated in Israel to this day.
They continued to terrorise British official even after they had left the region. Charming people but not for me! Oren is strangely silent on this.
The BBC? You are joking right?
@@richardkudrna7503BBC. Have YOU watched it before assuming?
@@richardkudrna7503 Same BBC that sacks journalists for opposing the genocide.
The BBC is a big part of the problem and not a solution
An inconvenient truth.
Thank you very much for the facts you have presented.
Why should we care, just shut up and give Palastine land back to Palastinians.
Thankyou Oren for clarifying this point. Hello from Wisconsin.
What is the point??
This guy is a loon.
@@AndyMann-vs3sfthe truth hurts, eh?
@@AndyMann-vs3sfYou attack him because you have no facts to challenge the facts you don't like.
@@johnrichards6080 Oren does not present any facts but goes a stage further in the zionist rewrite.
His stuff is unique.
Love the way that he has Israel fighting wars before it existed!
@@johnrichards6080 Oren is reading from a daily changing script and is a laughable fraud.
Netanyahu has spoken for years about his dream of 'wiping out the Arabs' and is now doing
so. Is this complex?
Not sure what Oren has added to anything.
Seems a little unwell.
Agreed 100%. Palestinians have said and proved conclusively over and over and over again - from the river to the sea they want it all.
Better than the zionists who want it from the river to the river .
They also want the BILLIONS of "humanitarian aide" and their own section of the UN to continue. Never mentioning how Hamas leaders live in luxury hotels sitting on Billions that they have stolen from their ppl. Bc they indoctrinate their young (1/2 the pop is under 20 yrs old bc Israel is terrible at the so called "genocide" and the pop has 3x since 2007) to BLAME ALL THEIR PROBLEMS ON ISRAEL
Just like israel do. From the river to the sea is in likuds constitution. And they're proving they want all the land themselves by actually committing genocide right now.
other organizations and people, other than PLO to refute "oh its just some bad people.. its just 1 case" by the pro-palies:
ARA, FAL, NBP, Houthi, Hamas, Amin al Husseini (1941 picture), Saddam Hussieni, Muhhamad Rashid Rida, Abbas, NSDAP, Golden Square of Iraq
I love you man. The words that ooze out of your mouth are nothing but hard facts.
Love from South Africa 🇮🇱 ❤
You use the word Facts, but it seems like you don't know what it means xD
@@farledj3461 Probably knows that real facts are not the same as the lies you falsely label facts. Almost everyone who can read already knows which are the lallah-lies and which are the true truths.
@@farledj3461 Oren is mostly factual and you can check that. If it doesn't fit your world view you need to re-examine your world view instead of ignoring these facts.
@@guythetechguy
I like the word mostly 😂
Are you ready to be arrested when you arrive back home to South Africa as your Foreign Minister promised?
I can’t even see the South African flag on your uniform - only 🇮🇱. You appear to be a traitor, and even your own nation despises you. How does that make you feel?
❤❤❤❤❤ I stand with Israel ❤❤❤❤❤
OBFUSCATION, LIES, DECEIT.
Thank you for the truth. Greetings from Germany!
I am from Germany too.
he used to be a tour guide in Berlin; and, "spricht auch ein bisserl Deutsch," as he once said in a video.
@@HxTurtleI think he said his wife is German.
It's more an opinion than Truth.
Plo had his reason for doing that.
They were compelled by International relations and Israel was against them with all its Power.
@@massimilianobergamaschi7434sounds like your opinion rather than facts.
We stand with Israel - Israel is also fighting for us - thank you!!!
Enjoy your coffee .
No, it's not
What makes you say that?@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139
Who is you?
No isreal is not
That's the whole irony of the situation which the international community does not like to see.
Spread the word!❤️
That’s entirly true , I checked all your affirmations
no you didn't
Hello from Germany!You are a light for your nation❤
honest and truthful facts !!! :)
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
-- Voltaire
Oren you were the first person I listened to, to learn about Israel and Palestine, thank you and I just wish all the protestors would listen and learn the truth
Yes, Oren in my case as well was the first to explain very thoroughly I might add, what really is the history of this middle East conflict.
Do your own research
And they will never succeed. Only in their dreams...
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would you put gold on it?
This guy is awesome.
This is exact point I try to make any time someone says the words "2 state solution". it does not exist, it is a piece of Western meddling that the Palis will never accept. Saying those words means someone from the West can stand and make themselves look like they are knowledgeable and righteous political geniuses, when the truth is that they are entirely ignorant of the reality.
Correct, by the Gazans accepting the notion of a two-state solution, puts them in a position to recognize Israel as a legitimate state. That, does not stand with their beliefs.
🙏 We stand with the truth, we stand with Israel 🇮🇱✝️✡️🕊️❤️
I am sick and tired of hearing what does not work ... let us hear a proposal for what does work.
@@Axel_Andersen The Palis should figure out a way to cleanse the murderous 7th century ideology out of their heads and figure a way or ways to learn from and cooperate with Israeli society which accepts Arabs and provides them with opportunities and freedoms far beyond anything they have available in ANY Islamic society.
Just give them a state then, doesn't matter that they don't want it. Now they are just prisoners being abused. If they still attack after being given a state people will support anything you do
Tbh they're quite open about it.
"from the river to the sea" means exactly that
No it just means that Palestinians will be free from the river to the sea
@@user-id9oi1py4t Which means what, exactly? These is no Palestinian people, so let's start there. They have not one artifact, no leaders pre-Arafat (the Egyptian), no currency, no culture, no history. Stop with the lies. They openly state in their charter that they want to kill all the Jews.
If china occupied a part of US, would it be reasonable for US to say they want to eliminate china occupied US?
If written history determines who deserves the land, then should US citizens unoccupy their home and give to Native American that wish to occupy that areas again?
I so enjoy sane people in this world where sanity seems to be outlawed. Thank you for beeing one of the sane voices.🇩🇰♥️🇮🇱
Makes total sense.Very good Oren. Keep them coming.
Very nicely explained 👍👍👍
Such a nice way to reduce tensions. Haha.
Truth is the most important in any issue or matter. .
Thanks for the FACT!!! ❤
I appreciate you making more dedicated vertical shorts content even if I'm not a huge fan of shorts myself. You need to counter blatant lies and propaganda with truth back to back in the same format and this is an excellent way to do so.
We will never ever be a pro Palestine
palestine is the name the british gave to a land, its not an entity. so technicly, no one can be pro palestine, because there is no ideology connected to that word, nor does anyone in the conflict even made the land or the name even. so saying pro palestine is like me having a fight over a small piece of land in antarctica. and and then I say that those who think I should have that land are pro antarctica. which is very stupid.
@@y0abl012 similarly countries like Iraq and India got there name from the British , so theres no entity or ideology related to that land ?
@@y0abl012The British did not name this land at all.
Palestine is mentioned 214 times in the bible.
@@y0abl012 Actually The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century bce occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv-Yafo and Gaza.
The British have got nothing to do with the name India... It is part of their history from the fifth Century BC. The Greeks used it, the Persians used it. India was identified as a country besides the Indus river. It came from there.
@@AndyMann-vs3sf no it's not. Give an example. The region called Palestine is not called anything but Israel or Judea in the Bible. Philistine means invader, and has nothing to do with Palestine.
A splendid sunrise brightens your day. Cool breeze, blue sky, tall trees, smell of greenery, the children would love it! Everyday😊
Good luck Oren and may God have mercy on your soul 🙏🏻
I just love your fact stating videos.
Keep up the good work.
Viele Grüße aus Australien
Facts usually confuse those with an agenda.
Wow you know the true facts and you inform everyone. Keep it up..thanks...
Supporting Israel ❤ from Malaysia
Bapak ko lah
You should cover why none of the Arab nations want the Palestinians on their soil now.
Jordan killed 200,000+ Palestinians in 1970 king of Jordon authorized such
It’s possibly for the same reason they don’t want to import the Bubonic plague.
Because all modern "Arab" leaders are cowards and are not true arabs
Ikr!! Loekwaht this fella says!
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You could comment on why no state wanted to take the Jews from Germany. You should also comment that this was the exact excuse hit ler, who seems to be a role model for Ur state used.
It’s 💯 true! They’re missed every possible opportunity to miss the opportunity to establish their own state!
Why? Because they are many israeli settlers get “in the way”. You can also ask that question to daniella weiss (664 of west bank).
Truer words were never said.
You give hope 🙏 in a dark time. Thank you for speaking the truth.
Love the outfit Oren, you look like a model today 👌🏽
I am pro humanity, integrity. Peace and savety for all people.
the sad truth is that this clip will do nothing. facts are incompatible with lunatics; with is also a fact.
There's research that shows that you can change the minds of people that believe in false things by presenting enough arguments to make them question those things. Don't give up.
@@guythetechguy okay-thank you very much for cheering me up, buddy
It will help those who are trying to figure out what is real and what is not.
@@DutchIsraeli yes, you are right!
most of those people who are particularly outspoken about a certain topic already made up their minds, regardless of new information.
however, there probably is a silent spectrum in the middle that might wander off into one or the other direction, if constantly feed with information by only one side.
for those folks, those videos are surely helpful. it looks like as if I've forgotten about them; about which, I'm sorry.
Lunatics make excuses for offing children
Praying for Israel 💕🙏💕💕
It sound simple but we all know that it's deeper then the surface
Oren should debate with Owen.
Facts!
By mistake you wrote down in text 90 years, rather than 19 years(between 1948 to 1967). But you say the facts as they are. Thank you for providing those historical facts, to prove the Taqyya.
Keep speaking the truth mate, with love from Asia. ❤️
What truth? He lies by omission and never respond to anyone who debunks his lies
This!!!! I love your videos. Thank you for speaking out. 🎉
Stay safe and strong! You’re a national treasure 🇮🇱
That's why they scream:"From the river to the sea".
FREE PALESTINE ❤❤❤🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The mighty British and French empires called the shots.
No matter what i stand with isreal❤
Atta boy, that is the attitude, no matter what the iron fist in the iron glove does ... you support them. That is the spriti!
Because those areas belonged to Egypt and Jordan. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
This really all goes back to Issac and Ishmael. The resentment is deep and it goes way back.
First time i found an Israeli who really understands Muslims and history.
I'm a Moroccan and i know islam danger.
Power .
Al kgethab
Lol, they don't want to talk about that! 🤔
100% truth. Undeniable truth!
I'm a Bahá'í here, and our Bahá'í World Centre is in Haifa. We remain uninvolved in politics, and have a delicate, respectful relationship with Israel, where Bahá'u'lláh was imprisoned in 1868, when it was Turkish. Only those Bahá'ís who work in offices, or gardens etc, come to Israel for 2 years or more, and then rotate out. We recognize ancient prophecies, and honor all holy places, and work to peacefully reconcile the prejudices that some people have.
Truth
I dont think you know the meaning of that word
that's super easy to answer-it's the opposite of being you, @@farledj3461.
Thank you Oren for giving facts. Bless you.
Israel stole Palestinian land. Why would they accept Gaza and West Bank. What am i missing? Jews should live comfortably in palestine
Thanks God
Someone say the truth
Thank you man🙏🏻
Free Palestine
Thanks for your videos! In today's era it is hard to find someone who speaks the plain and clear truth backed by facts.
The lack of perspective & knowledge of this is unbelievable. This is an excellent video! Great job!
We need to get these shorts seen by more people.
Great job Oren!
Here is a topic you might like to address: when Israel was founded in 1948 about 800,000 Arabs left the area assigned to Israel by the UN. We hear a lot about them. But we hear almost nothing about the 800,000 Jews who were ejected from neighbouring Arab countries at the same time.
Both a tragedy, we all love israel. But set their people free please
I didn’t know that.
800,000 arabs ‘left’? They were forcibly removed in what is known today as the ‘Nakba’ and an ethnic cleansing of the arabs in those lands the new Israeli state began.
My Grandad and his family were forcibly removed from Haifa, is what is today considered Israel.
Not entirely sure but I think they just went to Israel since they would be better off there
@@nickn27 sure, but same as with Poland ejecting German citizens, they were left no choice.
So everyone is talking about the Nakba, but no one is talking about the Muslim ‚brother‘ states sending Jews away from their homes.
How very obvious because it did not/does not fit the prevailing narrative.
Zahir Muhse’in, who was a member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Executive Committee, said in a 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Trouw, “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.”
Why is this guy not listened to by the whole world, oh yes he speaks the truth.