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0:00 - Intro
3:15 - Palestinians and colonialism
6:58 - Palestinian refugees
12:56 - The occupation
14:20 - The settlements
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Oren, you are very mistaken - democracy does not work in Arab Islamic countries. Arabs have evolved organically a system of government that works for them - autocracies. We should not be here telling them how to run their countries. Autocracies evolved due to the culture and the people. Look at what happens when democracy is imposed on them- what is the result? You have chaos and the most organized, which invariably means the Islamic fundermeantlaists subject the country to their religious excesses. Arabs are freer under the autocratns who are willing to bash in a few heads to keep the peace - and that is the sort of autocrant needed to keep the population in line.
Remember coffee was invented by ARABS. Also you are just some white east european guy, whose family 'converted' to judaism, even though no one can convert to be a jew because being a jew is about being part of a lineage.
Anyone can see you not a real jew just from your physical features.. Real Jews will look like Arabs and have Arab facial features and tanned skin. Both arabs and jew are Semite race. You are east European race = 100% NON-JEW
@@CG-zi5ku What has coffee got to do with anything??? and well there is from ages ago ... 100 years later the Dutch were already growing coffee and growing a far better grade of coffee in Ceylon and Indonesia. Today the best coffee comes from South America.
Jews are not Arabs ... Jews come in all colors ... We have been around 3500 years. We have migrated to all the corners of this earth, yet we have known our origin. yet there you are, having a profit from Yemen who was hijacking caravans and holding tradesmen for ransom... Were Yemenies really Arabs at the time???
@@CG-zi5ku You are talking racist nonsense. Conversions are possible and kosher.
You are 100% spot on. The Jews and their home land Israel and Jerusalem is forever. Establish in Heaven and on earth. As Yeshua lives so are the Jews Muslim are not that is biblical . Only those who turn away from , unto Yeshua will live
I was raised a Muslim with despising Jews as Muslim fav thing …. I changed my mind as a late teen when life forced me some research and reflection and first hand experiences …
I find ALL of your Facts to be True !
Thank you we are very happy that you know the truth. Can I ask you a question what Muslims when you was Muslim what Muslims believe about the Jews that we have the standards of monkeys and pigs what do Muslims believe??
@@EzkerBooks actually I never find his FACTS wrong .. there are very few in the world that I see this accurate and this guy is one of those rare ones .
@@EzkerBooks Cope. 😂
Give me 4 things
@@EzkerBooksattention seeking much
I was sceptical listening to this at first and fact-checked all your claims (this took me a lot of time). It seems that you are right. Thank you for this knowledge, Laurent from Belgium
Is there any chance you happened to make a document with the sources you used to fact check? I’m planning on doing it myself to share with others but if a starting point already exists I’d love to save myself the time
I love this :) When skeptics actually do their own fact checking. I think it's ok and even great to question everything. I do. I was even confused about the Israeli history when this all started. I didn't really know much. But I wanted to find out the truth and I like to research and find factual information to become informed. There are so many who just choose to believe things without any facts, knowledge or proof. So I just appreciate when individuals do the research and gain the knowledge to make educated decisions and not just listen to what they are told from mainstream media, etc. Even if we still disagree with something, at lease the disagreement can be made on facts.
No you didn’t
I wouldn't be surprised if the sources of information on the web are all gradually changed to a new narrative that favors palestinians. After all, on the internet, the people who control information tend to be on the fringes of the left(which seems to be becoming the middle left nowadays). I still have old history books that talk about the creation of Israel and the conflict, so it's interesting seeing how the wording differs from online sources.
The simple true is that israel never care about showing the true story... Thats what couse the palestinian ride on the fake story of palestain. If you check any plastinian claim, you will find out very soon that 90% is lies.
Just found this video and I love it - great explanation of the history and of many lies we have to listen to every day - thank you very much and regards from Germany, Oren!
My dad was born in Israel in 1936. His dad was born in Israel in 1904. This description of the region's history lines up exactly with what I heard first-hand from my father and grandfather.
Whatever happened to thou shalt not kill ? You either believe or you don't. You can't take half a book, only believe in half of that, and use it in a land claims dispute. I'm sure Israel is breaking at least 2 of 10 commandments as we speak, maybe 3.
@@johngawrylash7732 being moral doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The israelis don't need to sit there and let Hamas keep murdering their children. That would be immoral. Self defense is completely different from just going out and killing people deliberately (like Hamas did). What about the Israeli hostages? Should we just leave them to be raped, tortured and killed? That includes a baby under the age of one. You're not too smart, are you?
@johngawrylash7732 I heard that in the original text it's "murder" but you think Israel don't have the right to defend themselves?
@@karoc2829 the far right Israeli government has been murdering Palestinians for years. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.
First of all , Jewish people are not necessarily religious and Jews don't have to follow the 10 commandments. Based on your comment you are probably one of these idiots who think that "BeiNG jEw iS JuSt A RELigiOn" Israel is a secular democracy with -- believe it or not --- no official religion regardless of the Jewish majority , look it up .
second , there is a difference between lirtzoach
( לרצוח / to murder )
and between laharog
( להרוג / to kill )
In the Thora , or the way none-jews call it "the old testimant" it says laharog .
Thank you for your effort Oren!!!
Please dont stop making them!
I wont stop supporting them!
So well put. The military is doing it's best, I hope, to protect Israel with honor. The real difference maker will be education and Oren is helping a lot on that front. I'm so grateful to him. Thanks for your comment.
Israel is for jews.
Some evil ppl r trying to snatch.
They ll never succeed.
Long live israel
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Thank you Oren. Everything you say is right and to the point. As a Lebanese from Armenian roots, i know exactly what is happening today, at this time and age, massacres are still happening from Israel to the Nogorno Karabagh in the hands of Muslims. I watched a video you made also mentioning Armenians. Our ancestors were massacred and driven out of their lands into the deserts of Syria. But we didn't become refugees. We integrated into the hosting countries and became successful citizens of that country.
My family hails from Lebanon as well but I always find myself leaning towards being pro-Palestinian, but I always seek knowledge and the truth. Is there anything you can recommend me to read or view to get a better perspective on things, I'm always willing to see another perspective, especially when I myself am not living through the situation.
Hello, compatriot! Very true… That is why I get upset that Israel never supported Armenia… As two people who suffered immensely through centuries, you would think they would be more supportive… Obviously, they have their own political interests…
@maraohanyan5039 That's why I'm always trying to bring the Armenians' plight for people to see that our ancestors were massacred and the first genocide took place 1915. Yeah, I hope Oren will spread the message. In 1945 , when asked Hitler about the killing of the Jewish people, he shrugged and said, "Who remembers the Armenian genocide ?" I'm well aware of the atrocities committed during the Nazi Germany. I watched a video where Oren was visiting the old city of Jerusalem. He walked into a shop owned by an Armenian who talked about the Armenian genocide. Thank you, Oren.
Are you aware that the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem is under attack right now by groups of rightwing Israeli settlers ?? (often backed by the police when the Armenians resist) These fascist groups are trying to push Christians out of the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem. Don't listen to propaganda, that guy is not an "average israeli", he is a nationalist propagandist.. Russia, Israel and China are the 3 countries which deployed a strategy of extensive use of troll farms, to push an agressive nationalist narrative.
@@maraohanyan5039On a personal level all the Israelis I know deeply relay to the Armenians’ plight. But when it comes to political actions, like is the case with so many other countries, tremendous pressure from Turkey comes into play. And Israel being in a vulnerable situation as it is, having its own existence at stake, I guess it feels it cannot take the risk to antagonize a powerful country even further and tip the scale. But the sentiment is unquestionably with Armenians.
Thank you Oren for helping create some clarity, reality, and sanity, in the weeks since October 7 that shook our world.
As far as I can see everyday, unfortunately only a few part of our world has been really shocked. The world is largely antisemitic. In fact, I think that at least one of the real reason is that a large part of the world (especially arabic world) is really, really jealous of jewish for many reasons. They just have to start to work hard and maybe this jealouly will stop... but it will be not enough, they religion is largely antisemitic and not only antisemitic...
watch this for some real facts. Brief History of Israel-Palestine Conflict | Norman Finkelstein Teach-In on Gaza, Israel, and Hamas
@@ATW-br7ks what exactly is wrong in the video? Highlight 1 inconsistency.
This video needs to be shown in all schools in the US. Very informative and a very interesting presentation.
show this instead. Brief History of Israel-Palestine Conflict | Norman Finkelstein Teach-In on Gaza, Israel, and Hamas
-czcams.com/video/R-x-cRReI1A/video.html Anybody with a heart & half a brain who are forced to witness yet ANOTHER Zionazi Palestinian genocide but livestreamed this time would NATURALLY BE PRO-PALESTINIAN. This crap you've put out is pure propaganda that's been shoved down the thoats of children worldwide from cradle to grave due to the corrupt self-serving geopolitics of world leaders, politicians & mainstream media/fake new conspiracy sites bribed with AIPac BILLIONS. Old Testament Jews hated the Philistines from the start & with the same current Mien Trumpfian/Bibian trickery "jewed" Any progenitor that dared to associate with Palestinians out of their PROMISED LANDS (E.G., iSHMAEL & eSAU). Although Zionazis had planned on stealing Palestine by every means necessary decades before the holocaust, the Brit's only took them up on it to protect their Suez Canal trade route to their iNDIAN APARTEID COLONIAL PRISON SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AROUND AFRICA.
Absolutely 💯!!!!!
Show it everywere !
We need this in schools in UK desperately.
I remember my mother telling me when I was young that Palestinians didn’t care about the land until Israelis made it more livable.
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yes sure didnt care there werent a lot of settlers more and more came and stole their land
@@hilbert2547 If you go to the British Land Survey of 1945, the Palestinians owned 3.3% of the land. The wealthy Arab landowners (absentee) owned 16.5% of the land. The Jews owned 8.6% of the land. And, 70% of the land was State land (uninhabited) transferred from the Ottomans, to the British, and then to Israel. Israel was created by almost 80% of non-Arab owned land. So, what land was Stolen?`
It ... is...still...their...land. Doesn't matter if I care about my car or not, you cannot just take it. It is only a matter a time, Israel is doomed.
And do the Jews care until we send them tons of weaponry and military aid
Billions
But somehow Palestinians are always to blame
Oren, thank you for this fact-based truthful video. It should be shown - especially today - in each and every Ivy-league university.
And high school
And all across the Muslim world.
"Ivy League" Unis. in the US. and others? They are far far too dim to even understand this. They are brainwashed low lives.
Oren, you are doing a greater service than you can know.
Yes , thank you!!
Thank you for your calm and rational voice, Oren. You bring valuable facts, and you bring them with respect.
Thanks for making this information so clear to understand. Even though it's from a year ago, this is so vitally important now. To educate people that don't understand the history.
Thank you, Oren!!
You treat people like animals they become animals, Israelites no that, but don't care, they enjoy the collective punishment, only sport that brings the country together.
Need sanctions only way to control them given US is the devil that spawned this transmutation. Right wing nation that turned into the fascist propaganda version of the SS that once demonised Jews, now Jews demonise Islamic Arabs. Scary supremacists, probably AI, we can't be sure.
It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum
People who are subjected to apartheid ways, will always have the "will" to Fight. #FreePalestine
Great job!
@@polpol1005 It's important to recognized hamas are rapist.
Thank you, Oren, for your wonderful content. I know this one is not a recent video but the education you share here and in your other longer videos is second to none. I am British-Israeli, living in the U.K. and with family in Israel (including a cousin also called Oren). It is breaking my heart to see the hatred and biased propaganda being shared across social media. I know people won’t listen to sense when they are so fixed in their desires to fit into the “correct” narrative, but I am grateful to everyone who keeps speaking it nonetheless. Toda raba 🙏
The hate for Israel breaks my heart .also the evils of oct7th breaks my heart.😢 Praying for you from Australia❤
I’ve only just stumbled onto your videos. These are brilliant and informative. I’m an Aussie and yes a long way from Israel, but I stand with your people, Gods chosen.
The Jews rejected God.
Have long known of some of the events talked of in the video and possible reasons for the current situation ,but still learnt stuff today from informative work
Probably the most consistent, sustained argument I have heard on the issue, and from "an average Israeli." Thanks.
this is more compelling. Brief History of Israel-Palestine Conflict | Norman Finkelstein Teach-In on Gaza, Israel, and Hamas
i'm reading a book "The Palestinian Delusion" and your video is my complementary learning. Thanks for the clear explanation.
Thanks I will check it out.
The Palestinain delusion has been completely dismantled by even Isreali historians and demographers. It cites Joan Peters book "from time immamorial" heavily which according to historians is completely fabricated
I’m reading that excellent book too. How eye opening it is. Another telling fact - Dr Robert Spencer, who wrote the book, has had 5 fatwas put on him (meaning a hit, a death sentence). Why? Simply for writing facts about is lam.
Love from 🇿🇦
I imagine speaking the truth results in a ton of hate mail. Keep up the good work!
As a Swedish, Australian, English and Thai denizen, Thank you Oren. You covered almost every aspect through a long timeline. So well in fact that I am bookmarking this for my Micdrop against anti semitism and ignorance.
Please excuse my (old lady's) ignorance, but what is a Micdrop?
@@C.E.Thomas1952 an instance of deliberately dropping or tossing aside one's microphone at the end of a performance or speech one considers to have been particularly impressive.
"he ruffled some feathers with his acceptance speech and mic drop after winning the Best British Album award"
used to emphasize that a discussion is at an end after a definitive or particularly impressive point has been made.
@@allancerf9038 thank you so much. Notes and filed for possible later use🙂
Anti islamism is also ignorance, As for people like you who confuses anti fascism (that what Israel is following now) with anti semitism, I find that the real ignorant is YOU. I am not anti jew and I am against Netanyhau and all his fascist puppets.
Brief History of Israel-Palestine Conflict | Norman Finkelstein Teach-In on Gaza, Israel, and Hamas
You speak the truth, my friend. Evil is everywhere, and good people must bravely stand up against it.
Amen
Thank you for your education on this subject. You're performing a great public service for us all. Keep up the good work!
Jerry
He's spewing the same Israeli propaganda you can get from any Israeli or Zionist outlet
When the Arabs refused to accept the 1948 UN divison of the land, they basically had decided to play "double or nothing", and they lost. Then they lost again in 1967 and 1973. You play, and you take your chances. Now, Palestinians, live with your choices!
It is the year 73 of the Yom Kippur War
"The fault, dear Brutish, is not in the Jews, it is in believing our own lies."
Exactly 💯💯💯💯
Unfortunately, Israelis have to live with the terrorist despicable behavior and
decisions
of not accepting two states back
then so many innocent Jews and Israelis have been as you know, slaughtered butchered, burnt, raped, beheaded, stabbed, etc.
"double or nothing"
Thank you Oren. Truth and objectivity are almost completely missing, once again, in the media and public discussions about the latest war on Israel. Keep up the fantastic work 💪✌️💥
Thanks for another interesting and well researched piece. Very enjoyable, Oren. I forwarded it to a Muslim friend with whom I have an ongoing dialogue. Keep them coming!
As an Israeli, just wanted to say thank you! I learned a lot
As a non-israeli I wish that Israelis would stop building settlements.
Not only, because it's against international agreement
But because it's hurts the israelian cause. In the end it will cost Israel so much more than what they think they gain through it.
It breaks my heart watching these settlers killing Israels good image.
say "with the name of Allah, please show me the correct path and guide me there, amen"
@@illya9529 who do you try to talk to? Because I guess non of us two would do that
@@lenzi1345 if you don't want to talk, don't talk. thank you
@@illya9529 I was just curious why you talk to the commentor or me about your religious beliefs when we are clearly not interested.
Thank you, Oren. You put great perspective on the double standard, when it comes to Israeli. Everyone needs to view this, especially younger American Jews and non Jews
Swetheart the whole world is blindly supporting Israel's criminal war policies, double standard is only against innocent Palestinian people
@@arlettineharpy86 Do you mean those innocent palestinians who kidnapped people on the seventh and sold them to hamas... All the ones that knew about the tunnels and the ones that allowed the Terror headquarters in hospitals and schools and apartment buildings. You mean the innocent civilians that the day after they received free whole business infrastructure destroyed it because off it being built by Jews... Those that pass out candy and dance the street after a terrorist attack.... Those who beat and spit on and already tortured and dead German girl.. Or maybe those that cheered at the live Videos of the atrocities on the seventh.... Or maybe the thousands that went to work in Israel every day.. Some of them gathering information for hamas... I could go on and on and that you're so-called innocent palestinians... But most of them are not so innocent.....
@@arlettineharpy86 double standard? oh i think you typed HAMAS incorrectly
@@darkeve5917 ahahha funny, 1200-1400 civilians against 25000, if it's not your common sense try and do the maths
@@arlettineharpy86 ah yes, using number of casualties as an apeal to pity-moral gaslighting arguement. no gives a damn about your flaccid moral. Go ask HAMAS why there are a lot of civilians in the battlefield? they rule gaza? why dont they get their civilians out of the frontlines then if theyre so good of a human being?
.... Golda Meir: "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”
loved how you explained everything so clear,to the point and in a calm manner ❤
Great video. Amazingly well documented. Mentioning so many dates, names, events that it should be easy to debunk some of it... which will not happen, i'm sure. Well done. Keep up the work and effort. Peace and prosperity to Israel and its inhabitants.
Toda 🙏💖
More and more people must watch this video & properly understand all aspects presented in this video.
I found your channel recently and you have some good quality content, and it is actually true so it is nice to finally see a CZcamsr who knows history. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Your content is amazing.
Simple and to the point.
Thank you for bringing the light of truth and facts to the world.
Dear Ohren, thank you very much for your wonderful video I know you put a lot of work and share with all us here in CZcams, you are 100% right. many blessings and greetings from us Leah und Ari 😘🙏
An excellent historical explanation my friend. I will share it widely.
Thank for all your time and efforts in making this informative and thoughtful video. I appreciate the objective historical overview, and your discussion/commentary of very relevant information points that far too many people are either completely ignorant of, or simply choose to ignore, but that can be easily verified by anyone with a genuine desire for peace between the Israeli and Palestinian/Arab peoples. Objective truth and facts are the best disinfectant for the "big lies" that too often spread unchallenged like a plague due to hateful bigotry, uninformed ignorance, and sheer stupidity.
Very fact based explaination and you didn't even force anyone to prove your are right. Great job.
Emet❕
Shalom from Finland❄️☃️🇫🇮
Moi!
An excellent cogent, presentation. Well done, Oren
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Excellent and thorough content. Shines a bright spotlight on the truth. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Oren! As an Israeli myself, I must say that your video was very well done ❤
There was ethnic cleansing in Shimon Hatzadik. In 1948, the Jordanian army swept though Yudea and Shomron, killing or imprisoning any Jews they found. That is how it became a Muslim neighborhood. The people occupying that neighborhood were Jordanians, with Jordanian passports. When Israel liberated east Jerusalem, they allowed those occupying Jewish homes to remain, but only if they paid the owners a very nominal rent. Any tenant, who did not pay rent for over 20 years would be evicted. Only in Shimon Hatzadik is that a problem.
I think the Jordanian government made a mess there, promising people the ownership of homes they took under Jordanian occupation, yet never giving such documents to the "homeowners". Big resulting mess ... not that I know if there's actually any evidence to suggest such an agreement was ever made. It's such a sad situation, whichever way you look at it.
A few things you glossed over to try to balance the narrative. 1) The area that became known as the West Bank which is only a a part of Judea and Samaria, was largely inhabited by Arabs with Jews living in areas in between(legally settled and bought for), but they were a small minority. Ethnic cleansing occured on both sides. As far as them being Jordanian citizens..They were not Jordanian citizens before 1947 or 1948, it was after the occupation and the creation of the west Bank and annexed by Jordan..
@@happydillpickle Jordan didn't really want to get involved after the 1948 war. Simply keep what they had, however they were pressed by the sentiments of Arab nationalism to get involved in the 1967 war and lost it..PLO tries to make Jordan a Palestinian state and are defeated in 1972 with their leadership sent to Lebanon. Finally in 1988, they cede control of the WB and allowed the PA to take over administrative stuff. Jordan while having a large Palestinian population both refugees ,their descendents and also people with ties to family across the River, stripped many Palestinians living in WB from Passports and rights.
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can you tell me ahat is ezekiel 38?
This was very much needed. Great information. Thank you.
Great video, Oren! Much love from Asia 🙏
very important info thanks@p
Interesting, This issue is really complex and the rest of us are taking sides without fully understanding the history and the depth of the issue. This was very enlightening.
Exactly, people race to take a side without really understanding it, and I think a big part of it is people see jews and think white people, and assume in modern context that means automatically oppressor, vs the browner oppressed, which is grade A uncut stupidity and completely nonsense in this scenario. Also people completely neglect or don't understand the way the arab world uses the people we're now calling palestinians as pawns against israel and both suffer as a result. They don't even want the palestinians in their countries, they don't care about them, they just want to keep a thorn in israel's side and that's all they care about.
My wife went to Palestine, she watched children being spat at by Israeli soldiers. Villagers watching their houses being bulldozed. We also had a bunch of Palestinian kids stay at our house, the things they’d been through is shocking, but they found it normal. All you’ve done is watch a one sided video.
Its not a one sided video if what he says is facts. I honestly feel bad for the children but a two state solution was put forth multiple times and Arabs were the ones that denied it and went to war. Losing wars having consequences. @@tgin4984
It´s not about individual brutality and acts of violence in a conflcit that is raging for decades, chewing up whole generations, and spitting them out broken and bitter, on both sides. It is about the historical arguments and justifications brought about in western media, and nothing else. There is no war in history that left anyone innocent. That´s why you don´t start wars.@@tgin4984
@@tgin4984it’s not a story. These are facts that he’s pointing out. What your wife witnessed is a bunch of jerk soldiers and I really can’t comment on the bulldozed house without more context. These are anecdotes that might show how life is for some Palestinians but how did they got to this situation?
As always, very good information. Stay as you are, say what you think in all frankness. I hope to meet you there one day, for the best tours of Israel. G-d may bless you and make you prosper always. Peace !
What a breath of fresh air this channel is. Subscribed. Keep up the good work, young man.
The last 90 seconds are the most important. I recommend watching those 90 seconds repeatedly.
Hi Oren. I am a fan of yours from Egypt. I find your content really interesting and unconventional. ❤️ Keep up the good work❤️.
UN …..is unnecessary. It will always be Judea and Samaria no matter what other men says.❤you are absolutely right.
Spread the word
@garyallen8824it’s not I proved he’s lying multiple times .
The clarity and presentation of your information is tops - so honest and precise ! Kol haKAVOD to you!
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Thank you Oren!
Excellently put and more important now than ever to get this information out there.
Thank you so much for your work❤. You're making a big difference! I'm learning a lot from you and I'm so grateful for your support of LGBTQ, women, democracy, and the right to freedom of expression. I just don't understand why Muslim countries fall far short of all that and my heart goes out to the powerless minority in Muslim countries. I have subscribed and so wish I had the money to contribute to your work. Love from the USA❤🤍💙
The Muslim countries fall short of all that because of their religious beliefs.
I get frustrated that 'Western' countries are critically accused for lack of intolerance... try living in a dictatorship run by a Muslim extremist organisation or government 🤷♀️
did you know that in the west bank the IDF will arrest gay people, torture them, and then blackmail them into being informants? how can we expect an occupied people with no civil or human rights to protect minority rights? they are occupied! the law of the land is Israeli military law. settlers of course live under israeli national law
google: Israel + pinkwashing
It's because of the teaching in the Quran. It's part of their religion.
If you go back far enough you can dispute the existence of any clan/nation/etc. That doesn't change the fact that their are people there now who are being treated poorly today. You cannot disprove their humanity.
I think the point he is trying to make is that these people put an all or nothing demands that are based on untrue historical claims.
@@ef2718 he seems to be making that argument in good faith, but that is a straw man argument. He portrays himself as a reasonable Israeli and puts his argument against the least reasonable Palestinian arguments. Anyway the historical precedent argument is equally ludicrous from the Israeli side. A British citizen has no right to American citizenship. A Citizen of modern day Saxony has no right to English citizenship. A Mexican has no right to Andalusian landownership. Etc
these are not least reasonable Palestinian arguments, these are the most common and absolutely prevailing arguments across Palestinian society.
Hamas in its charter clearly states that peace talks are a waist of time and sacred war against the infidels is the only way to go. What do you think ‘from the river to the see Palestine will be free’ means?
@@igori4714 To that I would ask why Israel supported and bolstered Hamas. My understanding is that it was done so that they would not have to deal with the more moderate/reasonable Palestinian factions. I'd also ask why there is so much oppression, mass incarceration, and civilian death in the West Bank where there is no Hamas. And then I'd ask if we find that degree of oppression acceptable.
I'm not an expert in this area at all. Just trying to educate myself.
You won't get anywhere with these kinds of people using facts and reason. They attach magical significance to identifying as an ethnic group. People cant just be people and if you're not a special distinct subgroup the argument is apparently that you can be killed, tortured, and brutalized for fun over the course of almost a century.
The fact of the matter is that Jewish people built up a larger presence in a region that their religion originated in but where the population had shifted to Islam a millennia ago. The Palestinians are, in fact, semitic people and a good chunk of them descendants of ancient Jews (people move). European Jews had no claim to the region whatsoever by the 20th century.
But what is important is they are there now and were there prior to the Jewish immigration. Israel should never have existed in its present form in much the same way the United States (I'm an American myself), Australia, or South Africa shouldn't exist in their present forms. But they are all fait accompli at this point. There is no going back.
To move the needle, the US needs to stop propping up the Israeli economy and military. UN peacekeepers need to be introduced to the region to secure the peace and remove Israeli settlers from occupied territory. Israel needs to be made responsible for reparations to the Palestinians for their various waves of ethnic cleansing and expropriation dating back to the founding of Israel.
The focus then shifts to dismantling Hamas/IPJ and establishing a real civil government/infrastructure/economy for the Palestinians. The hate on both sides isn't going anywhere (and its hardly unique. Look at the former Yugoslavia, look at North Africa, look at Myanmar, etc. The list is endless.) but they have to learn to coexist.
But what should happen is far ftom simple. The Israelis will threaten nuclear war over such measures. The Christians who want to cause the endtimes and kill all Jews but the 100,000 they think will convert to Christianity will make it hard to get the US to cut off support. And fighting terrorists is far harder than saying it especially if they have popular support from a population thay has been brutalized.
Not supporting propoganda from a theocratic ethno-fascist like in this video is a small but necessary component.
Nicely done!
Great video > please keep making them
Oren, this is a slam dunk! Amazing. So well researched and explained. 👏
Shalom, Salam, Peace.
1. Not All Africans Are The Same, Thus Not All Arabs Are The Same.
2. God Gave The Jews, A Covenant, To Be Able To Live In Ancient Israel.
3. Numerous Times, The Jews Broke The Covenant With God.
4. Thus God, Used His Creations [Polytheism Peoples] From Babylonia, Persians, Romans To Destroy Their Achievements. Then Finally Nature, Caused An Earthquake To Destroy The Third Temple.
5. Then Almighty God, Dispersed You To The Four Corners Of The World.
6. Quran [Last Testament] Towards The Latter Days, The Children Of Israel Will Be Haughty [Except The Pious Versed In Torah].
7. The Above Quran Verse Testifies, That The Children Of Israel, Will Return In The Latter Days.
8. The Evil Holocaust From The Nazi's Of The Second World War, Caused A Need To Have A Home For The Jews.
9. Then 1948 Atheist Zionists Did Slain 5,000 Native Palestinian's.
10. They Said, '' There Was An Imminent Chemical And Nuclear Attack, Vacate Your Homes!''.
11. This Caused 530 Native Palestinian Villages, Towns & Cities To Flee Abroad.
12. The Colonist Practised ''Divide & Rule'', They Ensured Dubious Borders, For Future Conflicts.
13. Kingdoms And Empires Existed Before, Modern Day Countries Were Developed.
14. The Oldest Mosque Is In China 627, Later In 692 The Temple Mount Mosque Is Completed.
15. Thus Muslims And Palestinian's Have Been In Palestine, Since Before 692.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 That would be wrong. Hashem does not punish. He stepped out of the punishment business when He gave man free will to do good or evil. You can credit Him for implanting your nature at birth, but you can't blame Him for what you do thereafter. You have been misled in the entirety of what you say (except for #1; good and evil people exist in all cultures and races). BTW, Jews did not choose thieves over Christ. What you call thieves were rebels against Rome (just as Jesus was), and the Jews present at Rome's execution of Christ were supporters of the rebels. Of course, they would choose them. All others Jews would have been in temple; it was the morning of Passover. When Christ was apprehended in Gethsemane, Jews were at the Passover table. It was not the Pharisee (rabbis) who handed Jews to Rome; it was the Sadducee (who were in league with Rome because they feared that Rome would annihilate them) who attempted to illegally try him without the presence of the Pharisee, which was required. In fact, the Sadducee did not turn Christ over the night before execution because the disciples of a Pharisee rabbi told him what the Sadducee had done, and he interfered with the illegal trial. Therefore, the Sadducee turned Christ over the next morning. We have more current records than yours. You might be interested to know that there was no third temple. An earthquake did not destroy the second temple; Rome did.
@@ellenlevenson7831 Shalom, Salam, Peace.
Sister Be Not Angry, When We Muslims Say Allah. In Araimac God Is Elaha Or Alaha. In Hebrew Elohim, In Arabic Elo Becomes ilah Then Add Al Minus i = Allah [God Or Hashem].
1. Algebra Of Opposites.
a] There Is Good And Bad.
b] There Is Male And Female.
c] There Is Night And Day.
d] There Is The Moon And Sun.
e] There Is Credit And Debit.
f] There Is Hell [For Those Who Deny Hell, They Will Hear It Roar! On The Day Of Judgement] And Heaven [Where It Is Outside Space Or Time, We Are Trapped In Both Space And Time].
2. There Was An Earthquake 363 BE, Which Destroyed Roman Buildings And The Temple.
3. Quran [Last Testament] They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is the Christ , the son of Mary. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy the Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?” And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
4. Quran [Last Testament] And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
5. Quran [Last Testament] [The Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among them said, “This is not but obvious magic.”
6. Quran [Last Testament] And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
7. Quran [Last Testament] O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
8. Quran [Last Testament] And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad.” But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, “This is obvious magic.”
Toda Raba Sister
Read the history to in light your mind
@@omarlittle-hales8237 that is absolutely the truth
A Jewish person once asked Thomas Sowell, “how do we stop being hated by everyone?” He said simply: “fail” the worst enemy of Jewish people is envy. Always will be.
Jews cant afford to fail it usually ends up with them dead...Or havent you noticed?
This is one gentile who agrees 100% with Sowell's statement. Envy and some sort of weird projection. Anti semites have truly f'd up thinking
I heard this once. Envy is the root of Jewish hatred and I totally agree. Israel stands out amongst its enemies. Arab nations have all the oil, gas, gold, and resources. But Israel have the brains. That's what makes them smart.
Thomas Sowell is a great man
So agree !!!!
Agree 100%. Amazing video.
Thanks for giving real information!!
PERFECT! Oren, thank you very, very much! This video of yours says everything I've been trying to explain, with cleaner, clearer details and also far more succinct and to the point! Now, to share it! Thanks, and kol hakavod from B7!
Brother I fully understand and agree with you! I am a Hindu-Indian and by ethnicity my ancestral land is Sindh and I am a Sindhi. Sindh province, the birthplace of my parents and ancestors is inside what is now known as Pakistan. From my parents and many elder relatives, I have heard horrifying stories of how the Muslims were driving out my Hindu ancestors. My mom and her family had to leave behind an ice cream factory, their land and almost all belongings. Despite trying to get out and reach the Indian border, they were still be attacked by the Muslims who almost burned the bus where my mom along with other women and babies were riding. Luckily, some Hindu men who were travelling by foot reached the buses and rescued them. Yes there may be good Muslims, I don't want to spread hate, but the problem is that many muslims simply want to KILL ALL INFIDELS... Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and yes, even fellow Muslims who don't agree with them. Shalom-Namaste
Yes there is something extremely destructive in the mind of too many Islamists. Where are the peaceful ones who will turn against and drive out their own extremists?
That is a horrific story to hear. Thanks for telling the truth. Also, how did you beat the algorithm? I'm quite surprised CZcams has not censored your comment.
Sameer.
May be because Hindus story is correct.When the India was partitioned in to two countries before British leave the trains returning from Pakistan was stopped by Pakistanis and the Indian passengers were massacred and send to India with dead bodies.If you read" Freedom at midnight "by Dominique lappere a french you'll read all about it.I love all races sadly we don't understand the Muslim mindset.not every Muslim there are educated good ones too.
@@Arcadia-fe2nq exactly, the truth always prevails. Mainstream and social media cannot cover facts. Despite what my Mom has gone through, being a true Hindu, she always taught me to respect all religions and that there is only 1 God for all. Islam as a religion is not the problem, the problem is the people who take Islamic teachings out of context and promote "killing of infidels in the name of Allah".
@@Arcadia-fe2nq CZcams is against Hindus, sometimes.
CZcams has censored so many comments highlighting the atrocities committed by mūslīms against Hindus. I'm a Hindu and an Indian. I know all the horrific crimes against Hindus committed by that special community. I don't need others to lecture me on that. Anyway, thanks for your opinion.
I appreciate you educating me and the world on this topic. Thank you
Awesome content Oren. I really enjoy your history lessons. Pity it's filled with so much blood shed and hatred from the enemy.
It's actually hard to wrap your head around their thinking when we think so differently wanting peace and goodwill towards others.
I cannot even begin to comprehend how incredibly horrendous it has been for the Jewish people.
My heart goes out to you all including the people in the past that have been subjected to violence and hatred.
I think they're also jealous of you because you make the best of a bad situation with joy and unity and they squander their many resources in greed and hate.
I truly believe and trust that God is on your side and you will prevail because you are prepared, you live graciously and work hard.
God bless you all ❤❤❤
Bravo Oren!!! i feel you... like you, have been living in Germany for many years...
You are right in all your points, well said and described.
Todah!!
I appreciate your excellent commentary. I believe you speak truths. I am a Canadian Christian but I wholeheartedly support the nation of Israel, and Jews in general. You are God's chosen people and that alone, according to the Jewish scriptures, brings the absolute hatred of the one who opposed God from before time.
Excellent. Thank you
Hi Owen, thanks for all you do ❤
Thank you for bringing attention to the ethnic and religious cleansing in Nigeria under different guises
Truly
The UN is obsessed with Israel, always blaming Israel 😡. So many bad things are happening in the world, the UN are very biased. I hope after the war ends in Gaza Strip, there’ll be a serious investigation on UN, from what I understand, it’s no more a reliable organization.
Thank you dear Oren for this excellent and truthful presentation!
This should be required viewing for everyone
Wow! Wow! Thank you for the history lesson and your frank candidness!
Your English is quite proficient! Shalom!
While Romans gave the name to the region "Palaestina", the Romans did not create the name.
The name comes from the people called "Philistines", which is פְּלִשְׁתִּים (Pəlīštīm) in Hebrew.
Some Palestinians claim that while they are Arabs, they also claim that their ancestors mixed with Indigenous people living in the region.
As you said, States like Syria and Jordan came out as a result of foreign meddling. Countries do not always represent different peoples.
A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
You are right, there were many more Jews in Spain and Morocco and many other places all over the world, from which they emigrated due to persecution.
By definition, they were refugees. Saying that they were not refugees and that they were "coming home" is a way of expressing religious/racial beliefs.
If a person never lived in a country of his ancestors, and neither did his family for centuries -- him going to that country of their ancestors to escape persecution in the country where he was born and grew up -- he is not coming home, he a refugee. That's like saying when an African American moves to an African country, that he went back home. That's something that a racist would say. It is along the lines of "go back to where you came from".
Considering that 700,000 Palestinians were forced to evacuate during the 1948 war, and Israel denied the UN's article 13(2) to them --
"The right to return: Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country"
-- they are refugees.
I don’t disagree. Another interesting fact was that the Philistines were a population that were the original occupiers of Gaza. After Judea was dismantled by Babylon and most Hebrews were exiled, it was only then that the Philistines started occupying the land. But, The Hebrews kept. coming back after one leader or another deemed they deserved to be in their homeland. Honestly though, the whole land dispute and religious extremism and hatred and jealousy by these regimes is growing tiresome. To me, this is why Christ came…to spread the message to love thy neighbour and help others. He showed us that church isn’t a specific place, it’s where two or more are gathered -no matter where. He brought us the Holy Ghost so we didn’t have to bow down to a wall, or rock or Rabbi, Priest, or Prophet. We had direct connection with God anywhere we lived. He showed us that we are not better than others because of religion, culture, or colour of skin and so war by any side is an atrocity.
Thank you, this is exactly what I was struggling with watching this.
And yet, the Jews were there long before them, and the Jews won all four of the wars the Arabs started.
Pəlīštīm, so called people of the sea, have been completely gone or mixed with Jews centures before Babilon conquest. Their 4 or 5 city-states fell in 8-9 centures BCE as all historians agreed. I am talking about Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, and Gath. They hadn't left a nation after this fall. Just citizens of Judea and Samaria.
As a British WASP (atheist) I really wish the BBC would broadcast this in full to go a small way to redress their grossly anti-Israel bias. Brilliant ❤️ 🇬🇧
You are not an atheist. Atheists stand against religious lies
Er , no, all it means is that you don’t believe in god.
@@baltvdb Yes but actually no. The word that describes you is illiterate. Atheists are educated and don't side with war criminals
@@user-df4ow1jy2c So do you consider Muslims war criminals or you only reserve that for Jews?
@@mauricecohen3830 Muslims actually built libraries and contributed to the world science and philosophy and saved Greek literature from the hands of the Christians. Whether you like it or not Muslims saved the world and atheists admit that too.
Thank you Oren, you're a mountain of knowledge....I have learnt so much from your video's.
thank you I'm learning so much from your videos. . . .
THANK YOU so much for this video. I only wish the people who needed convincing would watch it. Tell them anything and they'll say it's a lie. I lived in Israel in 59...before they had the West Bank. They had a 12 mile strip of territory connecting Galilee and Judea...and lived in fear all the time. We hoped so much in 67 that after the victory there would be peace. Nothing but more hate and lies.
@woodswalker88 Sadly they watch it and dont want to believe.
The reality is Muslims have been exterminating Jews and Christians for decades... but the media doesn't care to talk about it.
When they have enough extremist Muslims in the West they will witness it as well.
I too have noticed that this is often the response to those who wish to have a genuine exchange. They are often immediately slandered (often just one word like principally, liar, or Jew, ...), shouted at (screamed at) with personal insults in an effort to stifle exchange, which leads me to believe that many of these haters of Israel do not want genuine exchange. I have also noticed in trying to work out the truth myself that the most trustworthy sites on YT are also often the ones supporting the Israelis, because they backed up by verifiable facts and figures, reason and logic. This is why Oren's videos are so good, he says nothing that that isn't reinforced by facts, or history. Unfortunately the haters can then only resort to personal slander, effectively cutting off any chance of constructive dialogue. The parallel "War of the Words".... very distressing.
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I've been struggling with understanding this issue. There are so many difference opinions and "facts" out there. So im happy to hear your perspective Oren. Have a good day! I will pray for peace.
I love how you explained things and give facts.
Enlightening reference and downright plain factual history, free of bias.
Well done and very courageous presentation.
Thank you so much for your contribution and rich teachings.
Only truth must be non partisan and only a great mind is needed to state it openly and fearlessly.
We really like your programs. They help us understand what is going on.
Love how he distinguished Byzantine and Rome as being different🙂
Excellent video. My mother was forced to leave her birthplace of Egypt for being a Jew as did 100k other Jews from that country. Their homes money and belongings were confiscated and they fled to Paris Israel or the United States no one speaks about that atrocity. Most people don’t even know that it happened.
The 800,000-odd Jews forced out of Arab countries after 1948 left with only the clothes on their back. A fair number had been wealthy. They lost everything, including real property (land), the total area of which has been estimated at four times the size of Israel. The world doesn't care because they were Jews.
you are a liar.
Migration happens forced or unforced. In modern times it shouldn't be happening but alas... people keep messing with other people's religion and beliefs.... maybe kills some women and children to. Going on shoot to kill operations. State terrorism.
Sols S this is just history repeating itself for the Jews … in the 1880s -1920s it was Russia doing the same thing to my relatives.
However, none of this warrants the persecution of the Palestinians who are treated currently in the same way by the state of Israel.
@sols9449, you're a liar.
Very gd explanation. Ur videos are always super. I follow often. Greetings from Kenya
Thanks!
Brilliantly simple and simply brilliant. Thank you for this Oren.
Bravo !!! Bravo !!! Bravo !!! You are always so clearly right ! 🙏 🙏🙏 I am sharing this with my friends. !
This is a great and informative video! thank you for explaining everything so well!
Thank you!
Two thumbs up way up for you oren very informative 👍 great job
Everything you said about the Islamic world is 100% accurate.
Shalom, Salam, Peace.
1. Not All Africans Are The Same, Thus Not All Arabs Are The Same.
2. God Gave The Jews, A Covenant, To Be Able To Live In Ancient Israel.
3. Numerous Times, The Jews Broke The Covenant With God.
4. Thus God, Used His Creations [Polytheism Peoples] From Babylonia, Persians, Romans To Destroy Their Achievements. Then Finally Nature, Caused An Earthquake To Destroy The Third Temple.
5. Then Almighty God, Dispersed You To The Four Corners Of The World.
6. Quran [Last Testament] Towards The Latter Days, The Children Of Israel Will Be Haughty [Except The Pious Versed In Torah].
7. The Above Quran Verse Testifies, That The Children Of Israel, Will Return In The Latter Days.
8. The Evil Holocaust From The Nazi's Of The Second World War, Caused A Need To Have A Home For The Jews.
9. Then 1948 Atheist Zionists Did Slain 5,000 Native Palestinian's.
10. They Said, '' There Was An Imminent Chemical And Nuclear Attack, Vacate Your Homes!''.
11. This Caused 530 Native Palestinian Villages, Towns & Cities To Flee Abroad.
12. The Colonist Practised ''Divide & Rule'', They Ensured Dubious Borders, For Future Conflicts.
13. Kingdoms And Empires Existed Before, Modern Day Countries Were Developed.
14. The Oldest Mosque Is In China 627, Later In 692 The Temple Mount Mosque Is Completed.
15. Thus Muslims And Palestinian's Have Been In Palestine, Since Before 692.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 china 627? Seriously? Man , your proving his point.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 Arabs attacked Israel in 1948. Arabs expelled their Jews and ethnically cleansed them. Now that they are in Israel, they are told they cannot be there, and that only Muslims can have a state. The whole world does not belong to your religion.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 Oren's presentation, was way more impressive than yours ..Based on REAL History , facts and logic . Yours , were based on fantasy-quoran book , which btw was mostly plagiarized by muhhamed from the Jewish Torah , conspiracy theories ,
and teenage logic.
Impressive for Muslim , but not good enough for modern ,simple, civilised adults. Salyam
@@alcapone230 Shalom, Salam, Peace.
1. Even Professors & Doctors Can Disagree.
2. In The Songs Of Solomon, Muhammadim Is Mentioned.
3. Jews Say This Means Solomon's Lover.
4. No Devout Prophet Of God, Is Allowed To Have A Lover, Only Marriages.
5. Jews & Christians Say, Abraham The Friend Of God, Was Unwed To Hajar [The Egyptian Maid].
6. Once Again They Say, This Time Round, The Friend Of God, Even Goes As Far, As Unwed Relationship.
7. Quran [Last Testament] We Married Both Sarah And Hajar, To Abraham The Friend Of God.
8. The Quran Is Not A Copy & Paste, It Is The Corrector Of Torah & Gospel Mistakes.
9. Torah Has Been Tampered With By The Ancient Rabbis. They Turned Judaism, Into Festivals And Holidays, Diverting Away From Spirituality.
10. Quran [Last Testament] "The heavens and the earth were joined together as one unit, before We clove them asunder" (21:30). Following this big explosion, God "Turned to the sky, and it had been (as) smoke. He said to it and to the earth: 'Come together, willingly or unwillingly.
11. Where Is The Big Bang, In The Torah Or Gospel Gone?
12. Jews & Christians State That Almighty God Rests On The Sabbath.
13. Algebra Of God.
God = No Beginning Or End, No Desires Or Needs.
Creation = Has A Beginning And An End, Then A Resurrection. Has Desires And Has Needs.
14. Quran [Last Testament] “We made every living thing from water, will they not believe?”
15. Where Did God Say He Made Everything From Water, Confirmed By Science Within Torah Or Gospel?
16. Quran [Last Testament] “He released the two seas, meeting [side by side], Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses”
17. Go On Tube And See How The Two Seas Do Not Mix, By God's Decree.
18. Quran [Last Testament] “And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming”
19. Scientists Used To Assume That The Sun Was Static, But Now Know That It Has It's Own Orbit.
20. Quran [Last Testament] ''Within The Womb, We Have Placed Three Veils''.
21. Only Ten Years Ago, Medical Scientist Discovered Pregnancy Has Three Stages.
22. Quran [Last Testament] “Have We not made the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?”
23. The Mountains Are The Pegs [Stakes] That Hold The Land, To The Earth Plates. The Colonists American Blew Some Mountains Up, To Make Way For Roads & Railways. Once A Mountain Is Removed, More Earthquakes Occur, As The Land Becomes Unstable.
Thanks for this informative video. Very important at this time.
You could not ask for a better explanation than what you did. God bless you, brother, and God bless Israel. Good always win
Dear Oren, I've learned a lot from your videos on this issue - thank you very much for your time and effort.
Outstanding, Oren! Simply explained and factual.
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Another great video! I really enjoy the way you make your arguments. Very clear and concise.
Wow so strong and clear thank you
Amazing that this is from a year ago. It could have been done yesterday, and it's still be totally accurate. Thanks for your work.
Accurate? Hahaha what a bunch of IGNORANT people
Or 70 years ago, or 60, 50, 40, etc. Sadly, it will probably remain accurate for many years to come.
If this is "totally accurate", what is "Syria Palaestina"? xD
"Syria Palaestina or Roman Palestine, was a Roman province in the Palestine region between the early 2nd and late 4th centuries AD." To piss off the Jews, "Following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt [part of the Jewish-Roman Wars], Jerusalem was rebuilt as a Roman colony under the name of Aelia Capitolina, and the province of Judea was renamed Syria Palaestina." Nice try, but actually really only "a hit and a miss".@@thinkright5611
It's only "totally accurate" if you don't interrogate it.
Brother... men like you, educated, well read, I dare say thoughtful, well spoken, can communicate facts, dates, people involved, the good the bad the ugly and most will not listen. It's like beating a dead horse. Yet, there are those who listen and appreciate intellectual honesty. I am one of those. Thank you for the brief history lesson. Shalom.
You smashed it!