GWM DUAL CAB TEST and THE FUTURE OF DUAL CABS - Roothy
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GWM DUAL CAB TEST and THE FUTURE OF DUAL CABS - Roothy
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You fair dinkum want to know what's available now and what's coming in the very near future? Don't believe the marketing guys, get real and find what fits you. The GWM is quite incredible, exceptional value and - keeps telling me what to do!!! Damn. I's not for me - but what is? I'll keep looking - anyway, test driving new vehicles is fun!
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great video Roothy. It's always easy to see where you're coming from and your common sense attitude is always great to listen to.
True that my friend, don't knock it until you try it. That's a good one Roothy.
NB: Plenty of owners tell me you can switch a lot of the annoying electronic feagtures off if you dive into the menu. Sorry, I'm just not that switched on with computers.
Have you got Grand kids, they will show you how.... :-)
Absolutely mate. I own one, it's been a really pleasent surprise. If you haven't noticed yet you can remote start it too by hitting the button at the top of the remote. One tap then push again and hold for 5 seconds.
Listening to what you're saying about this Roothy I think its time people learn to work on and love their old vehicles. Too much Tech controlling things, Too many things that could be a huge problem when off road etc. If I couldnt have my car towed last year when I broken down in Lithgow I would of been stuck 7km up a 4wd track with no hope.
Long press (press and hold) the push to start button and it will turn to accessories mode without starting the engine. This is standard operation for every car made with a PTS button.
Or just hit the start button without your foot on the brake :)
I could not agree more, Roothy, well said. Thanks
Good advice there Roothy. Having test drove a few of these new and budget dual cabs, I am very impressed with the way they drive. However, I find it difficult to make a choice as the features are invasive and overly complicated with electronics.
Thanks for the video John! Do you know who makes the engines for the Cannon? Im on the edge in terms of getting one but still kinda skeptical given the price is soo damn good!
Which would you rather own a Mahindra s11 auto pik up 4x4 with all the extras or this gwm?
Wife has GWM Havel and it’s great
Well said Roothy, well said.
The radio turning down when turning would be speed sensitive radio/"dsp" or somethings with in the settings my 2015 corolla has it
Keen to see a crash test to show its structural integrity, and long term reliability and longivity. But as far as value for money goes all other dual cab 4x4s (except the triton) are overpriced...
That is fine but it’s crash test results can’t be compared to all current ute crash ratings as they were done ages ago, the Ranger was tested in 2014, Hilux was 2015 and the testing requirements have changed since then and the lack of safety tech means they won’t be 5 star rated.
Crash tests are pointless and worthless , all vehicles worldwide are made to a standard ,and yes they all pass !
Five star crash rating
I want to see Roothy in a auto park vehicle 🤣😅🤣🤠🇦🇺
NOOOOO!!!!!!!
Hey i own a cannon and noticed the fuel filter on the one in your video is tucked up higher than my cannon L, did you move it at all?, by the way anyone who wants a nice ute grab one now !
Any opinions on the tank 300 model?
I bought a 2020 DMAX last year at Easter as I wanted better fuel economy for driving backwards and forwards the 1000km every weekend to see me kids. However can't bring myself to sell my 1991 GXL HZJ80 with over 616000km on clock. I still take her to the beach and bush and would drive to cape and back in. Dmax is like nearly 1000km off 75L Cruiser is 850-900km off 120L if I am lucky.
you bought a 2029 DMAX? Really?
@@destroyedsoul1791 Sorry typo
Great Video mate...
I will never buy a Chinese car. But it is still better than any Australian made car.
Get off the 420 fool 😆😆😆😆
Hey Roothy, you can turn those features off you were talking about when you pull up to the lights (camera on, radio down, etc)
Yes you can, I own one.
I reckon I might have said this before, but it's not just about how good the car is, it's about how good the service is from the manufacturer and their dealers when something eventually goes wrong.
It's a complicated bit of kit, even without the electronics invading every system in the vehicle. At some point sooner or later something will break or wear out, is that dealer going to be there in 10 years with the parts on hand? Is there going to be more than one of them left in each state?
I reckon that you've also got to look at how good the engineering is on these things, and what the history of the company looks like.
No manufacturer is immune to failures, not one of them has always done the right thing when it has gone wrong. VW and emissions, Ford and the pinto and their modern gearboxes, Toyota and DPFs, Holden and the Captiva. For every manufacturer there's a screw up somewhere.
In general though, the larger manufacturers out of Europe, US, Germany, Japan etc are there when you need them to be, even though it's with a sharp eye on your wallet at the same time.
I'm not yet convinced that the likes of great wall and Mahindra (cars) will be. And that might be a big problem.
That's my view, and I'm not going to say it's a bad car or that you shouldn't buy one with your money. I'm going to stick to my 105 with its 1hz though.
Yep, stick to the 105 - hard to get anything better. I agree on the manufacturers thing and really the only way to beat the system is buy from an established dealer who'll want to keep you as a customer. Don't put Mahindra in this calss tho, they have a genuine factory distributorship here now since their tractors went berserk in the market.
Agree 100% mate ...... but yeah, I would buy one with someone else’s money ! 🤣😉👍
Hi Roothy, just wondering what the 4x4 is like. Low range and high range. Thanks mate for the awesome review 👏
My 2021 Tacoma still got a leaver for park/hand brake and rear drum. Many youtube reviewers, who don't even own a 4x4 criticize toyota's rear drum brake option for Tacoma! Toyota still keeps manual and reliable components for people who knows about trucks and is looking for reliability. New generation, however, is all electronics. They choose 10-20 USB ports over a 4WD option. I am glad toyota is still going with old school components for LC, Hilux, tacoma, prado etc.,
But still charging thru the teeth for them. Love my 80k Landcruiser with manual windows and a cd player
Great Video JOHN ! You do talk sense like a narrator secretly lamenting the demise of go anywhere pure solid built mechanical 4x4s but yet embracing with a smile the new breed of vehicles that cannot be overhauled and renewed like the old ones and certainly won't last their buyers a lifetime of service and memories.
This "brave new world" of use and throw culture, I reckon, won't last for very long as sustainability approach to materials requires extended usage of one's purchases, only replacing equipment and components which cannot be repaired and that's where the newer avatars of old Toyotas and Land Rovers and Nissan will make a comeback, I hope. For now, the INEOS Grenadier is that shining lamp of possibility of merging modern features with robust technology and solid mechanical build. I hope Grenadier comes true on people's expectations, I hope you get to ride and review it soon. I hope quality prevails over vanity.
Simple always wins on our bush - most cars are built for twon use because most pelople use them that way I guess. Can't wait to play with a Grenadier!
I'll hold my breath all fair and good at the moment. I dont hold the same regard for these makes 5-10 years down the track parts coverage for these are horrible at the moment that may change but who knows. Ill stick to a 20+ year old cruiser any day of the week.
Yep, you can get anything for an old Cruiser from Terrain Tamer -
I own a Cannon X with 30000kms. I have always been a supporter of the brand until now.
I went to the dealer Autostrada in Western Australia, for a service and had them look at a minor warranty issue for a delaminating park brake button, along with recalling for the headrests to be replaced. This work was booked in over a month prior to the service date.
It’s been over a year and when going to book my 30000kms service I enquired again as the the park brake and it turn out that even though the dealer told me it was warranty and would be replaced they had not even ordered the part and not submitted a warranty claim to GWM/HAVAL. Not only this they did not replace the recall item on the headrests. When I approached GWM/HAVAL HQ I was told it’s my problem and they have nothing to do with it. So basically, your on your own.
Ok so you might think this is a dealer/service department issue but can you imagine if this was a larger warranty issue and this was the support you expect to receive. I was going to look at a new vehicle next year and I can be sure GWM/HAVAL are off the list. Warranty support is critical to me and this seals the deal. Thanks for no support GWM/HAVAL, if warranty is important to you seriously consider other brands, as GWM/HAVAL do not provide customer support.
Thanks for letting us all know Rob, and I've heard similar stories about GWM back up - seems like there's nothing much wrong with the vehicles but the service is crap. Maybe that'll improve - here's hoping.
Good review, Almost bought one until I didn't, went out and bought a 2022 Mahindra Scorpio instead. Much better fuel economy and frankly a lot less electronics to go wrong. the only thing missing is a diff lock but hopefully Mahindra will let me install the same one that is in the Pik up.
Excellent Car 👌💯
Brand loyality/bashing aside, there’s a lot of truth in what you said. Change is constant and technology is growing exponentially. The world of simple, inexpensive (new) vehicles is past. Vehicles are no longer designed by enthusiasts, they’re made by accountants.
well said Jon. thanks
I bought one of them .and they worth the money
you can wind windows and everything without the motor running to turn accessories on you just press the start button without having your foot on the brake. I think Westport led you astray and not letting you know these things
No, they expect me to know - I should have asked! Just old guy know it all stuff...
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY not at all mate. I have the utmost respect for ya mate! and I feel the dealers are letting people down by not explaining the options and settings to new buyers when they take delivery. like the cross country mode no one knows about it. and alot of dealers don't even know how to engage it.
Hi Roothy. Did you finish your review of the Mahindra?
cheers mate keep telling it like it is :)
Yes, and no - thinking of getting one longer term. Still my fave out of this market, especially as the others get more and more compimcated.
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY spoiler alert
Roothy saw the light and bought the Mahindra
How are you John❓ Long time no video. 😊🇵🇭
Mate just took one along with us to straddie, black with kit, looks amazing amd went like the clappers. So far so good for him. It’s the resale that used to cruel them but they are getting better and better. Good to lease perhaps? Write a d*CK load off as expenses and take the residual hit??
What about the alternator position???
It’s a bit low sadly
Hi roothy I just bought a new short wheelbase fuso cater 4x4 to replace my 2014 Hilux do you know much about them? It's bout the same length as a twin cab Ute same power just carries more wait paid 77k including gst comes with a 3.4mtx2.2mt drop side tray made in Japan thanks Jeremy
A mate's got one - it's been terrific, he loves it.
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY thanks hope it goes well good looking Holden and good advice on what's happening in the world
Mate your 2014 Lux will outlast this thing as I can call it a UTE.
@@ktmboy4499 the 2014 Hilux is no more pal tree fixed that up I'm an earthmover when a 79 series and Hilux are the same money stock standard and the truck comes with satnav carries 4.5t loaded and can still pull 3.5t legal I'm sorry I love a Toyota but when you sit down and do the sums the truck wins hands down warranty 4 5 years and service intervals at 30000km
@@jeremybrowne5413 4x4 trucks are great, just need a bit of suspension and tyre work to be as capable in the rough stuff as something like a 79.
After mahindra roothy found new sponsor;)
Same sponsor. It is a car yard that sells these cars..
@@Mambey see above mate - no money, just the fun, maybe I get bored like everyone else....
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY not hard to get bored at the moment. Can't go anywhere. I would just love to go camping now. I just upgraded from a 2010 gu patrol to a 2016 model. Most of the changes I am not that impressed with. Including the factory difflock. You can't use it when you want, only when the computer says. Have a good day.
What’s bump steering?
It has level 2 driver assistance, you can drive on clearly marked roads with hands off the wheel. But level 2 is not that good, Tesla is currently level 3.
Roothy whilst we prefer to see you wrangling a 40 out in the Simmo or OTT we still love to see your face on the screen or CZcams. Would love you to do some reviews of some more aspirational vehicles
There’s none for testing. But what are your thoughts on Rivian?
Bit late on commemting, i can say im not keen on the GWM ute with the look, its just not for me with a lot of the other utes on the market.
Not to mention i like simple, which in my opinion increases the reliability of a car so all that tech is not for me. Can say though im looking forward to March so i can checkout Mahindra up at Hunter Valley (im based at lower Blue Mountains) to look at one/road test. Hoping it feels better then a Dmax on somethings like the steering
My feelings on the Cannon exactly
But holy crap it was ugly both in the front and on the inside 😱🤢
79 dual cab is still made in Japan
Roothy you need to test drive the ldv t60. I love mine.
I'm not taking anything out bush or on a beach that has a limp mode feature.
limp mode is there to protect driveline incase of a failure
@@Monkeybrains90 it cuts in for many, many reasons. vehicles with too many electric gadgets to go wrong and leave you stranded a long way from home. if you don't know your car well enough to diagnose issues or not push it too far as to break it. you shouldn't be driving that far from home off-road. talk to someone who could get their car off the beach because of limp mode and it was just because of a bit of water on a connection not allowing a sensor to read.
You're right Roothy, the tech and changes in the industry are here to stay. You either have to embrace it (the pros and the cons) or avoid it.
In my case, I'll stick with the 2H and FTE or even a TD42 as I can work on them.
Cars are a reflection of society in general. This new wave has the bulk of buyers in mind who will buy and hold for 3 or 4 years and buy the next vehicle.
What do you mean none of them are made in Japan, my cruiser was built in Japan
I like them but they don't just tell you what to do. They also report on your driving habits to interested parties (insurance companies, accessories business etc.
Wow, didn't know that but it makes sense - thanks for telling us!
great stuff, thank you
too many new gizmos for my liking I'm thinking .
Not sure about these Utes , even if it was better than the Mahindra I’d still rather spend my money on a Indian Mahindra Ute because that brand has been around for many years and has been tested in the rough, tough steep mountain ranges in India and Nepal . Secondly India is one of our good friends. The other reason is rather spend my money on the Indian Ute is that I don’t like the idea of giving any of my money to Tyrannical Communist China if I can help it to a regime who is not our friend .
I gtend to agree with you mate - and the Mah is a lot simpler without losing any convenience. Possibly much better back up too now Mahindra has it's own factory distrivbutoship.
Buy the basic model and fit a Ford Barra turbo motor into it 🤙, fit cable handbrake, discount half the assist stuff, be even better than,
If you give yourself a new car budget I'm pretty an old Hilux or something and pay someone to rebuild it for you engine gearbox suspension brakes probably have enough in the budget for some good accessories and modifications
Agree mate, I keep an older Pajero 1994 on the road, rebuilt many bits and pieces on the old girl over the years, engine-soon maybe 500k 2.8T diesel. It still goes good just getting a bit blowy, I’ll get motor . I won’t buy a new 4x4 work/play truck , they have to much tech, all of them.
In 3... 2... 1..
AND here come the people that say you have sold yourself out.
As I always say, dont forget where Kia And Hyundai started out and then look at them now
If mahindra had better looks it would be the one I would pick over the GWM, just more basic, I don't like too many electronics
If it had an auto I would have bought one myself.
I’ll never understand why dual cab utes are so popular other than tradies. There hard riding, expensive and noisy.
Yep, and also versatile - you can do almost anything.
Older is better
Well said... I just saw a Chinese sedan and it looked really impressive. Honestly, people should stop the badge snobbery (if that is a word).
As for the electrics, I prefer a proper mechanical parking brake. I'm OK with the rest. It is what it is.
And that’s another reason not to buy a new car
I still think I trust toyota the most but you pay for it I don't no if the will still be the case in 3 years
Yep, my point exactly - the future started already and it's not that good!
Hi Roothy, it’s not all Gold what’s shining.
Every week here comes a new car and manufacturer on the market.
Yep, new all nice and 5 years later it’s scrap.
Therefore we buy only Nissan SUV Terra and pickups for service cars as replacement for the many 8 and 10 years and older Nissan Paladin SUV which was build like tanks. Good luck with all the electric gizmos, i know where it was made… keep the sunny side up and the asphalt under the wheels. cheers
Spend the money on a Toyota mate.
My opinion I'm all for technology as long as it doesn't interfere in the operational use of the vehicle once it starts killing the use through fault codes you are kinda fucked and stuck with a lemon on the side of the road.. to much technology kills the reliability of said vehicle
Yep, welcome to 2021 - basic is going out the - power - window...
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY MORE LIKE DON'T TRAVEL ALONE IN 2021/22
They're all good... Until they're not.
To bad the mahindra has bad service, sales and customer support. And the fact that they only take 16inch wheels unless you jack up the torsion bars, modify the front bumper by cutting it or by fitting a bullbar..... you also have the challenge of actually getting one. Not even the distribution manager can give you a date of delivery. You also have to go over it with a fine tooth comb when accepting it. Full of scratches and imperfection from front to back. Mahindra really is the lowest of the low when it comes to quality.
I don't know what you're looking at mate but that's nothing like my experience with mine - it's as good as anything, better than some, and the fact you can't get one indicates they're popular too. But time will tell if it's as good as it seems!!
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY of coarse you haven't roothy. If someone of your calibre had been given the experience I've had. It would ruin mahindra in Australia.
None of the 4x4 will last like the old ones the Chinese made Utes would be a good option for me anyway
Love your work Roothy but you won’t convince me with this Chinese made shit, far too much crap to go wrong a week out of warranty mate.
Fine if you lease it through work but I wouldn’t spend my own personal bank account money on one. They’re just not made to last made, far too cheap a quality. Sure many or most are made in Thailand because it’s cheaper but it’s the cheaper design and product sourcing that worries me with these. And the resale value is absolutely shit because they produce faaaaaar too many too quickly. Like the LDV’s, they produce one off the production line every 6 seconds - that’s right, every 6 seconds !!! China made half decent TV’s, Bluray players and apple products but not cars mate sadly, not yet anyway. Give them another 30 years and they may catch up to the longevity and quality of a now 80 series 😉👍
Keep up the good work though mate, love your work 👍👍👍
( and why are they putting the blinker switch on the bloody passenger side of the column 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ )
OK, you missed the point - price and quality arem't connected any more. Having said that I won't be buying a GWM - but if I had one as a company car it'd be great!
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY oh for sure But no, price and quality do certainly play a role in each other’s market position. Hence why Benz, Rolls, Bentley etc are priced like they are. And yeah for sure mate, if the boss pays for it and it breaks down 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣 keep up the good work buddy, living your solo stuff 👍👍
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY price and quality is still connected, idiot
I agree. Chinese made cars are rubbish However they are better than Aussie made Holden and Ford shit
@@DJTrumpMAGA 🤣😆😃🤔🤔 nah 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scrap
saw one towing a trailer full of barley ,wine and lobsters, the thing then fell apart and melted and became a covid positive...lol
GoOd OnE
Hi Roothy, I am sure the ute is OK, but I certainly go out of my way now to avoid buying anything from China. I know a lot of stuff from China is integrated into a lot of what we purchase, but anything marketed as made in China will never see the color of my coin ever again.
Yep that's fair enough I guess - but I do believe the Chinese cop a lot of flack because they're such a big part of our lives - and we're nothing on their map really.
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY just want to make it clear, big fan Mate, no criticism at all, just have a different outlook to Chinese made goods now.
I'm seriously thinking of buying one Cannon X model.
Do it mate i have had one for a month or so and love it
@@morrynq1049 Ordered :)
@@pdsdownunder3010 signed on the dotted line on the weekend. Very impressed. Cannon x can’t wait
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Stop deleting my comments & trying to censor me.
who? what? stop playing with your keyboard pal
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY
I posted a comment & within a minute it was deleted no less than 6 times until I changed one word.
C H I N E S E .
Now what dose that tell you?
Stop playing with my keyboard? Mate you post videos on CZcams there is comments section that’s how it works. I didn’t use abusive language I wasn’t personally insulting anyone but I get censored. If it was you I would be concerned that CZcams are censoring comments on your channel.
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY
I posted a comment & with a minute it was deleted no less than 6 times. It stopped of I changed one word.
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Now what dose that tell you.
If it wasn’t you I would be concerned that CZcams are censoring the comments on your CZcams channel. Stop playing with my keyboard? Really!
@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY
I posted a comment & within a minute it was deleted no less than 6 times. It stopped when I changed one word.
It starts with C &
it’s not the CU in the NT word.
Now what dose that tell you.
If it wasn’t you I would be concerned that CZcams are censoring the comments on your CZcams channel. Stop playing with my keyboard? Really!
@@matk4731 sincere apologies mate - I thought you meant me or one of my mob had censored your comments. We never do that. It's a real worry to think CZcams must be - I'll look into it further - I get sick and tired of other people telling me what's good for me. On ya mate - take care.
Personal I don’t agree with buying Chinese
The tech is annoying..
Just sold me on not buying one..
Run motor to use anything..NO..
ELEC H,BRAKES ARE PROBLEMS.
LEFT H. BLINKERS , NO...!!
THE TECH IS IMPRACTICAL REALY..
WHAT A HEADACHE MATE...
NO UPGRADES..
LOOKS GOOD...!!
WHAT A SHAME ..
um, just push the start button to turn accessories on, same as all other cars with push button
Sell out. The fact you can even push a car, who’s funds go directly to a state, that hates us.
no different than toyota, the are partnered with GAC which is chinese state owned.
@@Monkeybrains90 trust you will never step inside Bunnings again to purchase
Stop selling and promoting Chinese crap, these are bad vehicles and you would be a fool to think they are good value