Have AMD and Nvidia Pissed On Gamers?
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
- Have AMD and Nvidia Pissed On Gamers? Over the last few years getting a video card at a decent price is the proverbial needle in the haystack scenario, but could AMD and NVIDIA done a better job of supporting gamers?
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Although video card prices are starting to drop is this just a stop gap before the next wave of mining comes along? Should AMD and NVIDIA not sell to those who are abusing the market?
Yep to me they sold out the people that got them to where they are in the first place.
Yeah baby!!!! That's how you intro brotha!.....(and now my wife is rolling her eyes at me) LOL
Elric, You have to take that goof "The good old gamer" down and respond to the video he just released "critiquing" you about this video. He says "Elric is just an average guy that doesn't know much about tech". You've forgotten more about tech than he'll ever know. F_ck that guy.
I told myself that on April 25th, I'm buying a card. It'll be for my birthday.
I am just gonna wait
I think Nvidia has increased the prices of their GPU's much more than is justified, i bought my 1070TI for 550$ and now a REGULAR 3080 costs 1500$ it's a ridiculous price difference.
On 3/3/2017 I paid $462.97 for a 32GB SD card and an MSI Duke GTX 1080. I could have sworn the GPU was $499.99, but newegg says different.
@@trukr817 Newegg has some strange things going on from time to time it seems, but anyway..... i bought my 1070TI here in Sweden for 550 back in 2017 and the 20xx series wasn't a justified upgrade so i decided to wait for the next gen instead to upgrade, and now it's worth it, a 3080 is enough of a justified upgrade for me to consider buying it, but at the price range it is at i won't, because the price to performance is really f'ed up, and i can't believe NVidia jacked up their prices so much, i know there are reasons for it such as the shortage of the components it's made from, but i do not agree with their current price increase, from how a "normie" (someone who doesn't really get involved in their price politics) views it, it's a monstrous price increase over earlier gen GPUs
3070 Dupers in US where around 500. 3070s are just getting back to 750 ish. I tend to be in the 70 series for my normal purchases.
A piss on gamers, a piss?? Hell no, AMD and Nvidia have taken a complete shit on gamers. And AMD did it the most! AMD got a taste of the expensive Roederer Cristal that Nvidia has been enjoying, and said the hell with what we have been drinking, aka Rondel Brut Cava. And from then on, only the good shit for the miners and the petty, not so goood stuff for the gamers, and all at higher prices. AMD got drunk with the power as well as an inflated ego.
Screw off Nvidia has 80% of the GPU market it is Nvida that has pissed them off. Amd is along for the ride
That the best intro i ever ear!!!! In long time in youtube !!! great!!!! and yes thing will getting worse with tech to much for to much bugs!!!
Peace my man
if AMD and Nvidia want to fuck over gamers ill just find a new hobby until the market calms down
nice intro! so happy to see you having fun again! please stay healthy and keep on getting more well :) God bless you always!
Love the intro . That setup is looking sweet.
Hey man, glad to see you’re back on the grind making videos 🙌🏼
I love the intro big guy good job 😀
Emjoyed the intro, like a full song!!
That intro was fire! 🔥
glad to see you healthy! also cool intro lobe the dark vibes, might jam over it
ETH mining is scheduled to transition from proof of work to proof of stake later this year which will hopefully alleviate a lot of the GPU demand from miners.
It probably will, because ethereum is one of the most profitable proof-of-work coins to mine with graphics cards. Once Ethereum is proof of stake, if I am not mistaken, litecoin is the next best coin to mine with GPUs. Problem is that litecoin is only worth about $100-150 a piece compared to ethereum which is worth thousands per coin. So I am definitely hoping this will help with the high demand.
I don't care if GPU prices come down I won't forget how they treated the market during this period. I hope they both blow up and get brought back to earth soon
XFX was just found by china to illegally labeling cards to what they where not & selling them as what they where not in the last day or so ... Something like 5,000+ pieces.
Great video elric glad to you see you back man.
Love the start
Thank you
That was some spooky intro man 💜
Yes, they have. I just bought an overpriced 6800 XT though because my 5500 XT isn't cutting it anymore.
Like the new set-up. Hope you subscriptions start going up again!
I hope you're doing well and great my man!
Ahhh yes the hughes and kettner TriAmp Is a killer amp!! God I miss my tubemiester 18.. shouldn’t have sold it.. but damn it was loud through my Marshall 4x12 with celestion G12ht-75s…
I hope all is okay for you dude!!
Hey how come your woofers are outside your tweeters
I think there's really nothing that can be done about miners buying most of the stock up, big changes will have to be made. Either limiting GPU effectiveness when it comes to mining, they've done that a bit but I think that was more for show, or completely bottle neck cards so gaming GPUs can't mine at all, somehow. And make mining specific cards at an increased premium so they have an incentive to make and sell them and then gamers and other PC enthusiasts can actually get GPUs for a half decent price.
That's great but miners are always going to find ways around it.
@@daviddebroux4708 very very true there's no good solution currently because it's a shortage
Were you playing a Sequencial Prophet X or a PC Kontact Library there or something ?
AMD and Nvidia may have had a wee tinkle - but what is their secondary vestment in the gaming industry vs selling chips/hardware to the 'big companies'?
e.g. does AMD or Nvidia own software platforms like Steam, Epic Games Blizzard Games etc?
Music is always good - problem is the darn copyright issues...
Glad to have you back!
Love that intro!
The issue is a duopoly. If you want a gaming, mining, deeplearning card -- all that GPU horse power, you only have two options. So the market is limited, and the only damage they receive is some reputation damage.
Now this could be significant. Intel received some damage for releasing quad cores - but ONLY after AMD came up with an alternative. Likewise, since all GPUs sell well at extreme prices, there isnt a stark contrast to do any serious damage to the companies.
In the end, waiting time also has a value - and gamers will save up longer for more expensive cards.
Waiting time has value for whom? Cutting out entire pricing schemes is a very bad strategy. You leave money on the table for potential customers. Then you only have people who are willing to save up.
@@chunkymunky4165 Maybe this is my poor english - waiting time has a price?
You can choose to get your package delivered for free, but will need to wait 3 days before its shipped -- or receive it tomorrow if you pay a little extra for shipping.
Something similar goes for GPUs. Your GPU is overpriced - and you can wait months - or years by now - for the prices to come down... Or you can spend more and buy today instead.
Companies dont care how consumers get their money, as long as they get paid and customers keep buying.
They still sell out / sell fast. Prices are still way too high.
The only risk for AMD/Nvidia and soon for Intel too, is that they make too many and have to sell below cost. Considering prices, they can produce conservatively, because demand still is high, keeping prices high. As long as one of the three doesnt saturate the market, they have no incentive to produce a whole lot more to lower prices their own prices.
You definitely have a musical talent. I wish if Capcom get you hired to make the next Resident Evil game soundtrack!.
Love the intro
That intro Elric 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I started to get into the crypto mining stuff, but gave up on it. As a gamer it just felt wrong to use my video card in this way. Fingers crossed that prices will be much lower when my video card dies. Probably won't happen tho.
Very cool intro dude. Glad to see you doing well.
Congrats on the move, I hope you Sue that low life moving Company though. You and your family didn’t deserve that BS ! The new set up looks really cool and I liked the Music Intro. Get a Riff going that starts with your Tag Line ( Let’s Talk Tech ) over and over that builds to a crescendo. 🎸🥁
In my country a good retail seller now have RTX 3080 Ti Asus TUF gaming card available for 1600.- $ , prices are coming down yes.
30%-40% above msrp in UK for Ampere cards after a drop in price on last Friday. Rdna3 stayed the same for now so no point buying them atm. I'm guessing it's to do with supply
Do you do guitar gear reviews?...
you got my like with just the opening alone
oh DAMN!!!!!
I didn't know ToT had such an INSANE sound studio setup!!!!!!!
How much does military buys of GPU from the manufacturer ?
So all the gamers in the world and you get together and contact their Congress people and representatives and demand crypto be regulated or banned. Regulating it the same way we regulate securities and other assets probably have the same effect as banning it but I don't care which one we do.
More tunes? Hell yea.
By the way we want a new song maybe about the market of GPUs I would LOVE that.
THAT INTRO, THOUGH!
The only reason they are going down, becasue new once around the corner.
You have to blend that sound in to the intro of every video from now on.
Op intro
What they are doing is not justifiable! Prices are way to high, but we are to blame because we buy them ! I live in Europe and here the prices are 20% higher then US. Prices are just stupid for PC parts in general these days!
I've always thought Indiana kinda sucked but now that you're here it's definitely more rockin!
Selling to miners will hurt them in the long run. If mining suddenly isn't profitable tomorrow, the used marked will be flooded with GPU's taking away from future sales.
That intro makes no sense, but that’s why I like it so much.
Are you planning on doing a video about your setup? the audio gear looks quite nice!
Nice 👍
Cheers
As you said man, they are companies after all so they care about sales more than anything else.
My rear end cant take anymore dry pile driving from these companies. I no longer go DYI PCs. Its gaming laptops for me now. I have a 27 inch Gsync monitor hooked up to it so I feel like I am on a desktop PC.
every semiconductor company is bigger than any catel in the world and everyone is happy to be dependent on them
What infuriates me the most in this situation is when people say "oh well, you should blame aib partners for shady practices and not amd or nvidia". That's bs. Aib cards are just a rebrand, at the core they are nvidia and amd products. THEY SHOULD CARE WHERE THEIR PRODUCT LANDS, especially if they claim that they are on the gamer' side. So if those company really cared about consumers, they'd end that shit we saw since the release of the cards AND STILL SEE TO THIS DAY (the 3 million worth of xfx cards being confiscated by chinese customs) by simply stop providing them chips. But nope, nvidia and amd only cares about one thing: the number at the bottom of the receipt.
Cool !
Yes. Yes they have.
When a low end video card costs as much as my mid ranged PC from 3 years ago, I dare say they have failed everyone but the rich. I had a friend who risked paying his rent just so he could buy a single part for his gaming pc. These are no longer affordable to a vast majority of people, and many more who risk too much to have one just so they can feel like they have more than they do, or to feel like they are rich when they clearly don't and are not. I have personally ceased upgrading or buying into gaming pcs. My current rig is 8 years old, and there is no way in hell am I going to start tossing 700-1000 for a low to mid range video card just so I can play the latest and greatest PC games at a low to medium settings. I get it is getting expensive to produce things like video cards, but I think we are coming to that point where it is increasingly becoming a rich man's market. Sort of like how college is largely now deemed not worth the investment as most careers that require a college degree pay mininum wage to not much above it.. This is the sad reality we live in today. I chose to revert to legacy gaming, there is a huge library out there and I see absolutely no need to ever spend 700-2k on a fucking video card.
For others, 700 dollars is like pocket change.
Damn! Awesome!
Tech Yes of Tomorrow City
What speakers dose he have in the background?
DYNAAUDIO
@@Techoftomorrow thank you I was looking for a replacement. I have an old corsair sp2500. I bought them on day 1.
We don't need to feel important for a company unless that's something like the red cross or something
Only if all your intros were this cool. So, what you are saying is when a new GPU comes to market gamers release date is actually year and a half unless you get lucky and win the shuffle or lottery.
Yes they had and will continue to do so even more later this year.
it is what it is, if we wanna game we fork out cash, now we are in a world where you may just be too poor to game LOL
I can't stop watching this intro!! 🤣🤣
Yes
If they are selling more than ever and their stocks haven’t taken a hit because of the “shortage” then yes.
Nope, I don't think NVIDIA / AMD is taking a piss at gamers, because I never thought of t hem being my friends, they are a Corporate.
They are born to screw over their customers and to make money in the process, so I can even understand they doing this, sad as it is but this is reality.
You can either just quit gaming completely to cut yourself off from this dilemma or I guess just take it what it is. Because Gaming isn't a necessity ( even I admit I'm addicted to gaming myself )
this is a fact, we can survive without it. So there's basically nothing much we can do about it.
I think you hit the mark with this one. Just basic capitalism, though.
It all comes down to the fiduciary duty publicly traded companies like AMD and Nvidia have to maximize sales and profits. Anything they do that knowingly lowers profits is illegal, so it has nothing to do with pissing on gamers. They are legally bound to sell to maximize profits.
For the last 15 years, I supported both ati before it was bought by amd and nvidia by buying their competitive mid-range products. In return nvidia and amd just screwed me and millions of their long term customers for the sake of this crypto mining craze not realizing by doing that they created a hatred between them and gamers who will constantly buy their products. I don't make money by playing video games ,so I will never pay 2x msrp for mid-range graphics cards. I hope amd and nvidia choke with all the profits they made last year and know that train of cryptocurrency miners will derail one day.
There entry into these markets was funded by gamers entirely the only hope I have is that they fall flat on there face
Yes....Yes and yes.
Those eyes right?
Super creepy.. keep the kids away kind of creepy...
Legend elrich✌️
It will never go back to the way it was, once fat cats and share holders get a taste of profit they'll never go back to having less
but you still can't get one!! Yes i do and I think they are trying tp push pc gamers to consoles!!
WTF is that intro haha
energy prices are going through the roof .. no way in hell that crypto will survive
🤩 Amazinggg
Rock On
video card or too expensif ,12% of drop price is not enough ,for rx 6800 xt need at 900 $ ill be allmost ok !!! i dont pay more 900 buck for video card .. Yes say is expensif card !!! Thats is not Rolls Royce card at 50000$ or more 🤣😂🙃😡 Vacuum money video card ...
I don't care who they sell their GPUs to, they don't owe me anything. I will keep using my GTX 1080 until the prices are sane again though. I don't understand the people who pay stupid prices, they ARE the reason scalpers profit.
LOL being that Nvidia has 80% of the GPU market is this not Nvidia pissing off the gaming market?
😆liked in 1st minute!
Hard to find anyone who care about the little person.
Nobody should be normalizing neoliberal market dynamics (market fundamentalism that maximizes profits) - it's a failed system, a sociopathic/psychopathic system, and an ecocidal system. Economic systems can be organized completely differently - and indeed they have been - it is only the past four decades that neoliberalism has controlled the narrative for the worse. Previous to this, FDR's New Deal and Keynesian economics controlled the narrative, and produced the worlds largest wealthiest Middle Class. I'll let you decide which is better. Economics can be organized to serve people first and profits second; economics (capitalism) can be taxed and regulated to fund infrastructure and universal programs; and economics can be organized to facilitate egalitarian social democracy, as in the Scandinavian model of social democracy. America's neoliberal system, and the system of global neoliberal corporatism, is an anti-human ecocidal abomination that should have put torches and pitchforks in the streets, instead of diminishing the human condition into the sad demoralizing hunger, homelessness, opioid, and suicide epidemics.
Hear hear!
How will the 4th industrial revolution take place then, you don’t wanna upset the people at wef now do you?
@@mbsfaridi As FDR famously stated, "I welcome their hate." Cheers~
@@BigMikeGuitar He wasn’t a saint either.
You're making good points. But it's hardly news. There have been pallets of gpus going directly to miners almost since Ampere launched. The only reason prices are going down is crypto winter. Don't counting on getting rdna 4 or 5000 series from Nvidia as by 2024 crypto will awake again
64 and 128bit bus in 2022 NVIDIA and AMD can go take a flying F when all new gen cards running ddr6 or ddr6x that can easliy do 256bit minimum overpriced and performance locked basically by bandwidth of the bus it smells like horse shit to me especially when the cards perform on par with cards from 2015 and 2016 at least my r7 590x has 8 gig and 256 bus not bad for a card from 2015 and hell my 1050ti gen 1 I7 950 plays rust 60fps im no pro gamer so high end cards are just window shopping better still shelf Queens that look nice but bang for buck over priced as all ways
that intro "WE BRING THE TECH" made me laugh out loud man! fucking awesome i love Linus but there is a reason why i like tech of tomorrow. Relatability and honesty.
gamers buy a PS5 or Xbox not PC anymore
Haha i would rather stuck with GT1030 rather than going with console.
Buy a PS5 or Xbox???, so that those companies can control you with those "Live Service" consoles?? Not a chance .
I'd rather play at 720p with gtx 960, 1050/60 than game on a 4k console anyday. Most of the Fun comes playing how you want too,(not how they want you to)...........you can do that on your own PC
you got it all wrong dude. We gamers should take a stand against stuppid mining and all those vile miners. Dislike.
Nice intro but did find myself thinking ok this is dragging on a bit now.
lol ok
@@Techoftomorrow Iv been following you for years and would love to see your channel get as big as possible but with peoples short attention spans these days not everyone is going to hang around. In saying that it’s still a lot better that Richard review tech USA and his birds intro.
Shut up Malcolm, not all of us are mentally deficient.
@@ZaLewdWarudo That’s true lil fella ☺️
Forget gamers we are all going to pay more for electricity for this crypto b*******
its not the miners fault, its a due to the shortages, we recently hitted a all-time high with mining while gpu prices where comming down at the same time. Scalpers are another problem, same happend before the pandamic with the nintendo switch. And gaming and crypto are going hand in hand with P2E (play2Earn) earning arround 100 dollar a day depending on the game and crypto thats it based on.
It's about 60% the miner's faults
@@TropicChristmas not even close to 10% dude
Second! Yes!
Welcome
The big problem with AMD is they do not have enough manufacturing capability. Remember from 2 factorys they are pushing AMD RYZEN, Epyc. GPUS, and PS5/X Box components.