$2000 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti WTF IS This Madness?
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- čas přidán 28. 03. 2022
- $2000 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti WTF Is This Madness?!. Yes its now official the RTX 3090 TI will soon be available for sale, but with a 2K price tag it will only be for those with a serious need, some serious cash or just has to have thee fastest desktop GPU on the planet.
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Holy High Price Tag Batman, but is it worth the cash for the fastest desktop card on the market. This is beyond any normal gaming card, but it does come at a price of $2000. Your thoughts on this my amigos?
i remember when i thought 999$+ was steep for a 6990 or 7990 or titan level GPU....and thinking my refurb 7990 for 300$ was a steal. Now the few gpus i managed to get AT MSRP "FEEL" like robbery when it should just be standard operating procedure :*(
Forget 8k, other than for Video Editing in 8k, You hope it can at least do High Frame Rate 4k/120-144hz. Which is only an plus because the people buying these include it as a tax write off and make a living with it.
It's for enthusiasts that want the very best for 4K gaming or productivity and likely want even more performance. While I personally would buy the 3080Ti instead which gets close enough in gaming cause that's all I do.
It is a BS price on a card that will be outclassed by high midlevel cards in a few months.
We have to pay $4k for the 3090 Ti in Australia, call yourselves lucky in the states.
Dont worry about the price of the GPU...worry about paying for your electric bill...This is like running a heater and ac at the same time while you game.
lol
Same with all these high-end cards like my 2080 ti. During Gods of War, I can fry an egg on its metal face.
@@jeffwads might need some better airflow.
@@nathanhamman418 nah sounds about right an egg needs 158F or 70C to fry
@Eternby Nomanoy kinda an individual thing here the average is 0,34$ i pay 0,36$
wow dude i was just singing "no mercy" out loud grabbing my lunch and boom ur channel appeared to me from nowhere LOL oh those pain cylinder days
Rock On Amigo
@@Techoftomorrow I always wanted to ask.. have you got any warrel dane influences?
@@JPCathartic Yeah I thought he was great
Damn, bro, I'm so happy to see you're doing good health wise, last time I check you had some health problem, stay strong bro, like always nice content.
Man this card is sick, I would love to get my hands on one. Love you content Elric keep up the amazing work.
NVIDIA send him a card.
8k is such a dumb talking point. We hardly gotten to the point where GPUs are 4k viable and a lot of 240/270 IPS monitors on the market many (including myself) are still calling 1440 the sweet spot. Let's face it the card will mostly be used for 1440 or 4k gaming and just has more vram than needed for certain editing tasks.
over 2000 euros in europe up to around 2700 euros. I wonder how many linus is gonna buy ?
Wow 2000 $ i think in my country will be really expensive like hell what happen if the next generation come the rtx 4000 will be expensive like 3000 and i want to say you're channel it's the best ;)
I remember when you did the 780 ti video. Back then I could not afford one. I just bought 3090 ti today FTW3 3 ultra :) I should do my own videos lol
Nah more like $5000 once it's on Newegg
Totally
Should have just called it the Titan XXPP
This is what I don't understand. There is a certain group of people that will buy this just to play CSGO or something that a RTX 3070 or even less can handle. Nothing is going to stay the best forever and will be succeeded by a better product eventually. Most people want the best when it will not be used to its potential. Really sad how its got now. Gone are the days where if you had a Q6600 or a Q9450 you still had a solid pc in 2011, now if you have for example a 8th Gen Intel, some people will tell you it's obsolete when it's still usable
Great video. Video card is too expensive to replace my aging RX480. Any reasonable suggestions?
AMD 6600 will blow your old card away for 300ish dollars. It's back to rrp and fast enough for 1080p maxed settings in all games. Then use AMDs up scaler to go to 1440p. You can barely tell upscale from native.
If you can't afford the 3090Ti, then just buy the regular 3090 non Ti version. Simple.
That is heavy gold in that video card!!
Madness, just pure madness! I don't even mean the price. I miss those times where we had 50 60 70 80 and 80ti. Where you would get a new gen. every 2 years and you knew what to buy for your preference and you're good for some time. Today you gotta google which version of which # is better and end up totally confused.
Is this worth it or is it better to wait for the 4XXX series later this year?
It is 2.550 euro here in the EU. FML.
I have a 2080ti and am waiting for the 4000 series. The 4090 will most likely be substantially faster than the 3090. Even the 3090ti. At this point just wait
@@sweedishpie360 I am still on a 2011 build, watercooled. I will wait for 4000 series - and rebuild for a great setup that must last at least another 10 years :)
@@Owsryudie yeah man. I finished my i7 12700kf build yesterday with my 2080ti. As soon as the 4000 series come out I'll get the 4090. Like you it should last me quite a while!
thanks for the ad, I just built my 7800x3d + rtx 4090 computer and was in need of a windows cd key.
just bought the code cheaper than it is using the code you posted. thank you and stay healthy!
Sure !
Yeah but will the 4080 come out in two months?
5:05 This is the only reason why I went AMD this generation. Don't have RTX 3090, but do got 3070 money. However 8 and 10gb ain't cutting it for the projects I do in Davinci Resolve.
I work at Best Buy. We made a guy a build with the 3090 ti, i9 processor, 32gb DDR5 ram, liquid cooling. Thing was INSANE. About $4000-5000.
WTF is EVGA's ForTheWin spelled backwards.
But can it run Crysis?
Yeah pricing aside, is that power draw and heat. I'm good with my 3080 and 5950x. With a total system power draw around 400w, that's about the limit I'm comfortable gaming with. I'm all watercooled and it gets toasty. I can't imagine the heat this monster gives off, even more so with the 4k series coming up.
It’s really not bad. I don’t notice it at all and mine is mining when not in use so it is constantly on. People over emphasize heat etc. Now, if you have four or more running in a smaller room, that’s a different story. During the winter, that scenario is fine but during the summer, that room can get hot particularly if it has a lot of windows in it. My Corsair 360 aio keeps my 12900k cooled perfectly and it is very overlocked. My 3090 ti never goes above 94c at it’s hottest point which is frankly really impressive after the heat house of the 3090.
Another thing I want to add:
There is no shortages of 3080 TIs where I live. BestBuy in Canada has tons online and seems to have a ton in most locations. No one wants them for the price they're selling for right now.
These cards are ridiculously overpriced right now even at MSRP.
Forget 8k, other than for Video Editing in 8k, You hope it can at least do High Frame Rate 4k/120-144hz. Which is only an plus because the people buying these include it as a tax write off and make a living with it.
exactly and the ones that can afford to buy it outright can afford to buy 2...as consumers cry about the providers not reaching their needs constantly with their WHY WHY WHY narrative nobody NEEDS XYZ I NEED ABC...this level of GPU power/potential is for work, content creators....or the vapid. AND To the naysayers i constantly ask them to rationalize if they ever ASK rich ppl that have car collections WHY they need more than 1 if they cant drive them all at the same time. Its the logical equivalent IN my eyes...BC they really MISS the point while trying to put themselves in the shoes of affording something they cant. Same ppl that put cheap tires on their luxury cars/suvs/sports cars. OR never wash them. These GPU belong on 4k/VRR oled panels for TRUE gamers of 4k/PVE/AAA genre or MMO/RACING SIM. True large format enthusiasts/gamers....or agian devs/content creators/editors. Otherwise its just something for ppl that dont really grasp the concept to COVET. WHILE acting like theyre going to buy a 6500xt....or are going to run a 3080 with a 4ghz-4.2ghz non k intel 7th-9th gen cpu....or zen-zen2 4-4.2ghz cpu....and WONT have bottlenecks to a point where your 3080 is yielding 3070 FPS numbers...bc of cpu/ram bottlenecks. AND Cpu from a clock.ipc standpoint and L cache...and this is going on while ppl are trying to drive 240hz 1440p panels with terrible sub max refreshrate image reproduction capability. outside of the odyssey G7 line....plus those are VA vs a 500$+ IPS panel designed for COMPETITIVE SHOOTERS lmfao. That cant even manage 8ms and VRR with a AAA game on maxed. To think the industry has endured this level of consumerism and END GAME outcome....for the last 3+ years with advents like "g-sync" when in reality VRR/freesync is the saving grace of countless laptops and even gaming pcs countless at sub MAX refreshrate in these various AAA PVE titles. 8k makes sense to me bc of aspects like PPL having to stream in 8k bc of bitrates with twitch being so low....and down scaling aspects esp if they want to record/move the content to YT for added monetization. THIS can largely be a huge money motivator in teh quality of content a person can generally produce as well as timeline of production. I can only figure these 500$+ flagship IPS panels are being written off too. BC theyll be replaced within 1 year...Not to mention aspects like sponsorship to content creators. FURTHERING oh i got a 3080 in my build....streams card game/moba LUL
Isnt 3d rendering and photoshop cpu intensive? Why would a 3090 ti be the best for that.
It's sucks why no HBM2/E/3 RAM?
I had to scroll back to the beginning to see if this was an Nvidia sponsored video. This is easily the most unreal recap of the 3090ti I've ever seen
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I think they should just release a whole line of cards at one time, instead of milking each line every year. The 4000 series will be out in probably, what, 6 months or less?
What is that one little fan gonna do?
6 months ago a standard 3090 went for 2500 so nothing surprises me anymore. I only have 2 kidneys, I cannot keep up with this forever...
Why complain? Its a marquee/halo product that gives you the crown jewel of their consumer GA chip. Its either for professionals or those with enough work ethic to buy it. If you don't like it there's an entire product stack of RTX that goes all the way down to 350USD
no excuses bottom line....either buy a laptop hunker down...or a console....for a "BETTER" market/pricing like any reasonable wage earning adult...or stay up for a product/inventory and get the GPU you "want" by this "point" since launch i would have saved enough from 500-550$....TO BUY 3070 since launch date JFC....and the fact that most consumers cant even follow this rationality. WHILE thinking what? the next gen thats faster/better will sell at a lower price? lmfao. I cut out drinking/going out b4 covid just to afford a bike....which turned into multiple gpu/builds instead that i sold on the side so i could fund my own personal build w.o having to go too deep into pocket. While working 40-60 a week....IDK no excuses i wasnt even earning a high wage/salary....you just have to have goals in mind....i even got to trade up from a 3070 FE to a 3070 strix for MSRP difference at launch pricing....thanks to discord. PPL are just making excuses...if you had 500-1000$ set aside sep 2020....no excuse to act like they coulndt have added 25-50$ a month since then to that stack to allot enough money towards a gpu purchase after the prices rose...tariffs were effective. Its half the reason i was in such a rush to get 2-3 gpu so if i didnt get a 4k capable gpu i could trade up to a trader. Sold them to gamers happily playing on them with no insane price gauging on the build talking near same day post/sold builds...with older/spare parts i had lying around 3950x/3600 10600k bc building systems using/testing them and selling them is a hobby of mine. I guess working AF and constantly buying/moving parts and knowing price points and which on sale items are great deals vs MSRP pricing really helped there. I even traded/exchanged a 5700xt for the 3070FE....the sales rep said....so what if you didnt get a 3080....buy this open box 5700xt for 380$.....then return it if you come in and get a 3080 or when the 3070 launches....exchange it....GENIUS sales rep. But still b4 work/after work id check for 3080s....when they were closer to msrp....then selling an entire build and wondering if i should buy a 3090 or 6900xt which was really out of my budget....and cut into my hobby/build funds. I mean i sold my 2080ti for 850$ bc i wanted to buy two 3080s...and got none and had NO GPU....for a month(bought a 5500xt) in like AUG of 2020....i mean i did it ALL was SOL gpu less bought replacement/placeholder gpus....this is the PROCESS i and others went through that....others wouldnt even shed an ounce of effort towards....let alone budgeting or working overtime etc....then complain about not even justifying the cost of being on the EVGA list for a 400$ 3060.
When the ceiling goes up, the floor goes up
And I mean price.
Amd should make a radeon rx 6950 xt to fight the rtx 3090 ti
saw the benches the card is big bulky power hungry and not as good as my 3090 okay ill throw it one bone if you want to LN2 OC then this will probably be the card but im just a dude i do some rendering and gaming for that i saw only downsides
like the 3.5 slot cooler that requires a wire so it does not break off your PCIE the 450w the measily 8% performance gain i also have this concept that it wont undervolt as well 3090 you gain 80-100w but it is a hunch because of what the card represents
To be fair it's not much better than a 3090 so it's not worth the price
thats what im thinkin too , but not about the price but about the performance it give.... , i already have an rtx 3090 ftw3 ultra with the 500w vbios from evga , watercooled on both side front and back and i will not change it for a 3090 Ti for maybe 5 fps more , i prefer to wait for the 4090/4090 ti
Yes, but that isn't the point. You literally have the "best" card even if it is just marginally so. That is why they play these games.
I want one to watch CZcams in 144p
Dem flops though
baddest gpu on the block. when he said that I wanted to try it to mine crypto blocks with it XD
Damnnnn!!!!!!
Right, lol
O yes...I want to see that 3090Ti crushing the M1. :)
NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti scalpers edicion lol
All Scalpers buy them RTX 3090 owners sold their cards already look for good deals for used 3090's
@@scottishgamer7210 yeap
When it comes to egypt 🤯?
We have here 3090 for whopping 2500$ 😩
Waiting for 4090
I'm glad a got a 3080 for $1000
only 2000€ thats great price
Greedy funkers! i remember high end card use to be $1k too
Linus get his video card without asking hand picked from CEO
I seen that. lol It was a little over 2,000 dollars
I might get one I have my tax return coming.
Bad is the correct word but not in a good way, well unless you live in the Arctic.
I've seen the 3090 going for 4000 dollars on both amazon and newegg. 2000 dollars will be the lowest price at this point.
Amazon and Newegg are horrible for knowing the prices of the current market. Those prices are driven by AI. To check reseller prices eBay and stockx give a much better picture on what they’re going for. Eitherway stock and prices are getting much better.
Scalpers price $5000
CZcamsrs ? We are not CZcamsrs dude, you are a CZcamsr, we are just watching.
Certainly dont want to be branded something related to Google, or their censorship algorithm... Since they are not paying us anything, why would one want to be called CZcamsr...if he is not uploading videos trying to make a living.
2k is really 2.2k more or less
Don't forget that scalpers exist and that is only the MSRP, retailers could charge whatever they want.
Considering it will be outdated in likely 6 months no not worth it
Early test show it ain't happening at 8k. 4k neither , when considering performance to dollars its another fail. ☹ Nice going Nvidia 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Early test? Can you give a link to these tests you speak of? I'm really interest in seeing what test out there is claiming that gaming at 4k using a massive RTX 3090Ti is a "fail".
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior CZcams won't let me post links in the comments. Just Google it and video tests will show stome games still drop below 60 fps maxed at 4k . Dying light and Cyber punk are 2 right off the top of my head and at the price piont nothing should be dropping below 60 fps.
PS5 will be better than gaming on this card..for PC gaming will have to take a mortgage 🤣
4 months later... GUYS the rtx 4000.01 is 2x faster than the 3090ti
me: looks what normal 3090 goes for "starts from 2200€ all the way to 2800€"
me again: looks what Ti 3090 goes for "starts from 2500€ all the way to 2700€" hmm. i hope no one got normal 3090 recently
The RTX owners sell their 3090's then can't get them all scalpers got them day 1
MSRP of $2200 :'(
Not worth buying especially since 40 series cards are around the corner.
Apparently it's only marginally faster than the 3090, so 8k gaming won't really be viable unless you're talking about older titles.
8% or so difference but no that puts it in high pixel count slideshow territory it was dropping below 30fps ill go out on a limb and say it's just hype talk same happened for 3090
Can it play pong?
I am kissing my newly bought $1500 3080 TI right on its lips...it burns, but it is a sweet burn knowing that I got a great deal. The beautiful part about it is that it will not lose any value. My old 2080 TI is still worth the same price I paid for it back in the day.
XD if not better....sold my 2080ti strix in sep 2020....didnt snag a 3080...got an open box 5700xt tuf evo....exchanged that 3070 launch day for 2x 3070 FE with the exchange+ 2080ti money.....traded a FE for a 3070 STRIX....and now to my knowledge it "FULLY MINES" as i try to see its price point they have a V2 edition to my dismay...or so i thought XD i thought mine was flawed etc...bc the V2 surely was a better iteration/vbios perhapse....XXD it was just LHR. AND mine is Full hashrate....and i dont even mine...but BC of that my GPU and FE have appreciated in value to above the 1000$ price point just bc of their mining viability and with the state of economics and emphasis on mining as the year and a half past theyre doing better than retaining value....i hope youre in the same boat bc im sure thats why the 2080ti if you still have it is holding such a good value....Prior to the 5700xt tuf...i got a 300$ 5700xt STRIX from a panic seller like the same week i sold my 2080ti just incase i didnt get a 3080...which was true....then i put the rest of my gpu $$$ since i had enough to buy two 3080s....into a 10600k build to sell the 5700xt strix with...luckily for my friend it the build went to them and i gave them a homie discount....otherwise PAIN i saw the 5700xt strix going for 700$+ even 800$ asking on ebay etc. I got a friend sitting on a 3060 bc they still have a 1070...and im telling them now or never move the 1070 for 300$+ while they can while the gettings good. Then sell the 3060 and get an even better GPU like a 3070ti for around 800$.
Yeah, I just got lucky yesterday during one of Best Buy’s drops and got a Founders Edition 3080ti for 1199.00. It’s an awesome card. That 3090ti pictured in Elric’s video is the Founders Edition at 1999, but the one by the regular board partners like Asus etc will be 2199 to 2299. That card looks to be huge and require a minimum of 850 watt power supply and a recommended 1000 watt unit.
I tend to overkill purchase, but i would be overkilled by the wife if i upgraded the 3090 (which also wouldnt be worth it haha)
Eric, my friend, how is your diabetes going? I a fellow diabetic also!
Very good lately thank yiou
Now 1k 😆😆😆
The 3080ti is 1989 in canada nope....
Some very low priced brand name 3060 and 3070 cards on aliexpress not sure why who wants to find out if they are genuine .
It's not T.I. its pronounced as (tie!)
Don't you just love how the marketing material, is comparing it to a 3080ti and not the 3090 (non-ti)? Laughable.
2000 dollars is still cheaper than a 3080Ti rn
dont imagine 3080TI will be selling for more this is just MSRP they will just sell it at a higher price or lower the 3080TI MSRP is honestly useless
The price disparity even between the 3080 and 3080ti seems a bit ridiculous to me. An extra 600$ for like, a 12% increase in performance, even more for the 3090 which is very similar.
I guess I do not see the point.
Extra $600?? The 3080 is around $1300 and the 3080 TI is around $1500. Source: Amazon.
i mean its all justified if youre talking about gaming off a 2000$ 4k tv....and its the difference in your favorite PVE AAA game having stuttering...lower variable refresh rate/frame yields paired with bad vrr perofrmance. The only remedy is more FPS via DLSS or a bigger-badder more spensiver GPU and to ppl with this level of purchasing power....they wont be burdened with QOL issues. PLUS theres always the "FUTURE PROOF" aspects like not knowing how newer engines or async oriented API via DX12 ultimate/direct storage win 11....or vulkan. AFFECT the overalls "down the road". PPL that can afford these things dont really worry about what its worth to them....OFTEN they buy multiple gpus a year or per build...doesnt surprise me just means 2nd hand gpus for offer. And if they arent power users good system health too. BUT idk i have a 3070 STRIX which i got from trading up from a 3070FE for msrp difference like +130$+3070FE....and ive ocd the strix to 2.1ghz 8000mem....it hits 15k on 3dmark. Which is good enough for me bc i dont have a 4k panel. AND dlss works well on 21:9 thus far. I mean i look at games like deathstranding which has huge DLSS viability. Even DLSS in warzone is nice for improving fps/frame times and looks better than 2560x1080 in res....or 3440x1440 down scaled 75%. SO dlss forsure with its AI does help with sharpness/noise reduction VS SIEGE per ex....its not as noticable image quality wise....but fps totals/1% lows and frame times....DLSS is also a winner 1440p+DLSS vs 1080p vs 1440p 75% scaling.....dlss had better overall operation and frame times. But like yeah i couldnt imagine playing valorant/siege/go off a 1200$+ gpu .....as theyre seemingly free games to play as it is....and the TRI HARD ruling on those type of shooters is to run a TN 1ms panel....which i could also not IMAGINE myself doing when purchasing/paring a 3080GPU to my build. YET nvidia has yet to release anything around the realm of what the 1660s-1660ti brought to the table. IDK i follow a basic/principled methodology of not judging ppl that have the power to buy w.e they want...as well as my own stance that if youre spending 1200$+ to play various free games cs:go/valorant/siege/apex/warzone.....as well as some bs lilke a 500$+ 240hz IPS panel that boasts 1ms reponse times at the expense of insane overshoot/ghosting in any scenario where your pc/gpu/game has less than 240fps(Outside of the VA samsungs hence....IPS) flagships...so bascially any non shooter on "low" outside of that gaming scenario youre talking terrible image quaity or disabling overdrive/turbo to which you better hope your monitors innate response time is in the 5-8ms ballpark with OD off....BC AAA titles its as if most ppl havent seen BENCHMARKS that theyre barely reaching "g-sync" level FPS on 1440p...much like when BFV launched....and could barely touch 144 fps in 1080p maxed....with the best gpus at the time. YET offered g-sync and reflex if you lowered the settings obvoiusly...and raised the frame cap from 200 to more to drop frame times by adding a frame buffer on top of Monitors MAX HZ. YOU buy these 3080 level GPU for that FRAME buffer....in titles like warzone which are somewhat hard to run at a high fps and high image quality sweet spot. AND you have to STAN those games to be willing to invest taht much for a conceptual "COMPETITIVE EDGE"....whilst getting fragged in cross plat by someone...on console....IDK all i know is the testing between the 3070 and 2080ti in RDR2 was interesting to see more core utillization/gpu utilization in vulkan for both but an even higher % for the 3070 same settings etc. But this was pre dlss...never got to test with 2080ti RDR2 for dlss. My buddy has an evga 3080...we were playing D2 Reborn...i told him to install afterburner and check his temps.....bc i knew they were going to be high on max...i was playing half on desktop 3070....and off a 4k amoled laptop....so i already knew....and ofc his game was on max uncapped XD.....and 80c gpu. Told him to put a frame cap of 120 and boom
@@jeffwads I am getting 889$ for the 3080 and 1524$ for the 2080ti on Userbenchmark. Similar pricing in Canadian dollars at BestBuy Canada.
Don't think this is worth it, especially if you got a 3090 already.
Same thing with 3080 Ti, unless you really want the newest stuff just for sake od having it.
No madness. Huang tested the waters. Idiots fell for it. Huang smart. Huang now increases price!
card belongs in the hands of ppl that are some how smart and well off enough to invest properly elsewhere....so that they can spend on tech like this that has no return on investment or any type of methodology like that connected to it...the type of ppl that buy the M3 GTS bc they want the "DOPEST" m3 but then put it on airbags bc they didnt like the stock ride quality. KINDA ppl that put 20k in parts in a miata and a 13b to bag it and roll that enigne never past 5k. While scraping their manifold. These types operate outside of the realm of reason and i want to say 50% of owners of this 3090ti will be of this operating level while the rest will either be content creators or developers. That actually have a use based on some feasible returns with this product while using it. IS it any different than a 3000$+ 3080ti laptop...which also wont be in the hands of "CONSUMERS" but more or less ppl that want superiority at any cost LMFAO AS if they even know what ghosting/overshoot is and how to calibrate it out of a panel. Theyll be out here trying to play 8k with granularity and noise up the waazoo from all the overshoot/ghosting. BUT hey its as if playing anything other than racing games/fifa/pga golf like as if im gonna play warzone in 4k if the GPUS are viable tomorrow....what a NONSENSICAL narrative. ANY more than TN not being the most ideal panel type for competitive twitch shooters. AS 500$+ IPS panels boasting super fast capability arent riddled with image quality issues below their max refresh rate as it is going on years now.
Let me just say, this is consumers fault, when scalpers brought up all the GPUs and overcharged y'all, what did y'all do?........brought them at those absurd prices. So how can you blame Nvidia for price gouging you? It's you're fault(the consumers)
It is called the free-market. Something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If someone pays $2500 for a 3090 TI when the MSRP is $1200, that is what it is worth due to supply and demand. Reality is what it is.
plus ppl that can afford this 2000$ gpu will get it...with no qualms...so idk why regular wage eraners gotta gripe with the "providers" over having THEIR needs met....as if we the wage earner are the ones producing the product....and arent the ones held hostage period. I keep telling them to get on a waiting list for a console if their serious about their sentiment as a consumer....and yet theyll line up to buy a gpu at any price as you said
what i did i bought my card at launch at MSRP granted with Euro tax and abit extra since Asus Strix cards are slightly pricier not so sure why it was wrong of me to do however same shit different day
Power hungry over priced 3080 best card 6900xt better also.
I̲< f̲i̲r̲s̲t̲ g̲o̲t̲ i̲n̲t̲o̲ B̲T̲C̲ b̲a̲c̲k̲ i̲n̲ 2016 a̲n̲d̲ h̲a̲v̲e̲ b̲e̲e̲n̲ h̲o̲d̲l̲i̲n̲g̲/b̲u̲y̲i̲n̲g̲ s̲a̲t̲s̲ a̲t̲ d̲i̲f̲f̲e̲r̲e̲n̲t̲ p̲r̲i̲c̲e̲ p̲o̲i̲n̲t̲s̲ s̲i̲n̲c̲e̲. I̲'v̲e̲ b̲e̲e̲n̲ t̲h̲r̲o̲u̲g̲h̲ c̲o̲r̲r̲e̲c̲t̲i̲o̲n̲s̲ b̲e̲f̲o̲r̲e̲ a̲n̲d̲ w̲i̲l̲l̲ l̲i̲k̲e̲l̲y̲ e̲x̲p̲e̲r̲i̲e̲n̲c̲e̲ m̲o̲r̲e̲ o̲v̲e̲r̲ t̲h̲e̲ f̲u̲t̲u̲r̲e̲. V̲o̲l̲a̲t̲i̲l̲i̲t̲y̲ i̲s̲ s̲i̲m̲p̲l̲y̲ t̲h̲e̲ p̲r̲i̲c̲e̲ o̲n̲e̲ n̲e̲e̲d̲s̲ t̲o̲ p̲a̲y̲ i̲f̲ t̲h̲e̲y̲ w̲a̲n̲t̲ t̲o̲ p̲l̲a̲y̲. I̲ d̲o̲n̲'t̲ h̲a̲v̲e̲ a̲n̲y̲ A̲l̲t̲s̲ a̲s̲ I̲'m̲ a̲ b̲i̲t̲ o̲f̲ a̲ B̲T̲C̲ M̲a̲x̲i̲, b̲u̲t̲ t̲h̲a̲t̲ s̲a̲i̲d̲, i̲f̲ B̲T̲C̲ h̲a̲s̲n̲'t̲ d̲i̲e̲d̲ b̲e̲f̲o̲r̲e̲, i̲t̲ s̲u̲r̲e̲l̲y̲ w̲o̲n̲'t̲ d̲o̲ s̲o̲ n̲o̲w̲. S̲t̲i̲c̲k̲ i̲n̲ t̲h̲e̲r̲e̲ - y̲e̲s̲ w̲e̲ a̲r̲e̲ a̲l̲l̲ f̲e̲e̲l̲i̲n̲g̲ t̲h̲e̲ p̲a̲i̲n̲, b̲u̲t̲ o̲v̲e̲r̲ t̲h̲e̲ l̲o̲n̲g̲ r̲u̲n̲ t̲h̲i̲s̲ w̲i̲l̲l̲ j̲u̲s̲t̲ b̲e̲ a̲ b̲l̲i̲p̲. T̲h̲i̲s̲ i̲s̲ h̲o̲w̲ I̲ s̲e̲e̲ p̲a̲s̲t̲ c̲o̲r̲r̲e̲c̲t̲i̲o̲n̲s̲ w̲h̲e̲n̲ f̲e̲l̲t̲ t̲h̲a̲t̲ I̲ g̲o̲t̲ i̲n̲ a̲t̲ a̲ h̲i̲g̲h̲ (b̲a̲c̲k̲ t̲h̲e̲n̲ I̲ t̲h̲i̲n̲k̲ i̲t̲ w̲a̲s̲ l̲e̲s̲s̲ t̲h̲a̲n̲ $1000 a̲n̲d̲ b̲o̲u̲n̲c̲i̲n̲g̲ a̲l̲l̲ o̲v̲e̲r̲ t̲h̲e̲ p̲l̲a̲c̲e̲!). N̲o̲w̲ w̲h̲e̲n̲ l̲o̲o̲k̲ b̲a̲c̲k̲, a̲l̲l̲ s̲e̲e̲ i̲s̲ r̲e̲g̲r̲e̲t̲ f̲o̲r̲ n̲o̲t̲ h̲a̲v̲i̲n̲g̲ t̲h̲e̲ c̲o̲u̲r̲a̲g̲e̲ i̲n̲ b̲u̲y̲i̲n̲g̲ m̲o̲r̲e̲ a̲t̲ t̲h̲o̲s̲e̲ t̲i̲m̲e̲s̲. B̲u̲t̲ i̲f̲ y̲o̲u̲ b̲e̲l̲i̲e̲v̲e̲ B̲T̲C̲ h̲a̲s̲ v̲a̲l̲u̲e̲, t̲h̲e̲n̲ b̲y̲ a̲l̲l̲ m̲e̲a̲n̲s̲, b̲u̲y̲ t̲h̲e̲s̲e̲ d̲i̲p̲s̲ i̲f̲ y̲o̲u̲ c̲a̲n̲ a̲f̲f̲o̲r̲d̲ t̲o̲. F̲o̲r̲ t̲h̲o̲s̲e̲ w̲h̲o̲ g̲o̲t̲ i̲n̲ a̲t̲ 60 o̲r̲ 70K̲ a̲n̲d̲ f̲e̲e̲l̲i̲n̲g̲ t̲h̲e̲ c̲r̲u̲n̲c̲h̲: h̲a̲n̲g̲ i̲n̲ t̲h̲e̲r̲e̲. B̲T̲C̲ i̲s̲ n̲o̲t̲ a̲ g̲e̲t̲ r̲i̲c̲h̲ q̲u̲i̲c̲k̲ s̲c̲h̲e̲m̲e̲. W̲a̲i̲t̲ i̲t̲ o̲u̲t̲ a̲n̲d̲ y̲o̲u̲ w̲i̲l̲l̲ s̲e̲e̲: y̲o̲u̲ w̲i̲l̲l̲ c̲o̲m̲e̲ a̲w̲a̲y̲ s̲t̲r̲o̲n̲g̲e̲r̲. I̲ b̲u̲y̲ a̲n̲d̲ j̲u̲s̲t̲ t̲r̲a̲d̲e̲ l̲o̲n̲g̲ t̲e̲r̲m̲ m̲o̲r̲e̲ t̲h̲a̲n̲ e̲v̲e̲r̲, I̲ h̲a̲v̲e̲ m̲a̲d̲e̲ o̲v̲e̲r̲ 25 b̲t̲c̲ w̲i̲t̲h̲ 8b̲t̲c̲ i̲n̲ j̲u̲s̲t̲ 5w̲e̲e̲k̲s̲ f̲r̲o̲m̲ d̲a̲y̲ t̲r̲a̲d̲i̲n̲g̲ w̲i̲t̲h̲ E̲x̲p̲e̲r̲t̲ M̲A̲R̲S̲H̲A̲L̲L̲ C̲L̲I̲N̲T̲O̲N̲ C̲r̲y̲p̲t̲o̲ i̲n̲ f̲e̲w̲ w̲e̲e̲k̲s̲ t̲h̲i̲s̲ i̲s̲ o̲n̲e̲ o̲f̲ t̲h̲e̲ b̲e̲s̲t̲ m̲e̲d̲i̲u̲m̲ t̲o̲ b̲a̲c̲k̲u̲p̲ y̲o̲u̲r̲ a̲s̲s̲e̲t̲s̲ i̲n̲c̲a̲s̲e̲ i̲t̲ g̲o̲e̲s̲ b̲e̲a̲r̲i̲s̲h̲. T̲e̲c̲h̲n̲i̲c̲a̲l̲ a̲n̲a̲l̲y̲s̲i̲s̲
i̲s̲ m̲y̲ s̲e̲c̲o̲n̲d̲ l̲a̲n̲g̲u̲a̲g̲e̲ < Y̲o̲u̲ c̲a̲n̲ r̲e̲a̲c̲h̲ M̲A̲R̲S̲H̲A̲L̲L̲ o̲n̲ W̲h̲a̲t̲'s̲a̲p̲p̲+¹³⁶⁰⁴³⁶⁵⁹⁸⁶ C̲h̲e̲e̲r̲s̲ t̲h̲a̲n̲k̲ m̲e̲ l̲a̲t̲e̲r̲.