COIL WHINE TEST: czcams.com/video/c2iFIfK4WIw/video.html FAN NOISE TEST: czcams.com/video/2jdMkrtIWGA/video.html So I left these out of the review video but you can watch these tests in seperate videos over here. While I did notice coil whine on the SCAR 18 I only noticed it a couple of times and only in the SILENT operating mode which limits your framerate to very low levels. The noise was 0db while in Windows as fans are not spinning at all with light workload and when gaming it is on bar with any other powerful gaming laptops out there in terms of noise, but here you can choose to play games eighter in Silent, Performance or Turbo operating mode. Check the videos to learn more and even see what the FPS does in different modes.
Hi TheTanelChannel! Thank you for your Review and details! About The Whine Coil I would like to ask you if you could test the same I'm showing in the video: czcams.com/video/DQ9Q3r3uu5k/video.html It is using Blender, Gpu mode on and interactive render in the viewport. When you move the 3D scene. Then having the Scar 18 since 5 days I confirm all your points!! Waiting for your reply, Thank you again!!
@@gmarte82m Hey, as I stated, the coil whine is only audiable in SILENT operating mode where the GPU and CPU speed is limited. Turn it on PERF mode and it should go away. Sometimes it went away even in SILENT mode. I dont know how to use Blender, not a 3D modeler.
@@TheTanelChannel Thank you for your answer. No matter which mode, the Coil is present and audible once GPU is in use:/. For Blender I'll do a video how to do it step by step, less then 1 minute, no requirements needed :)
This is an awesome review, thanks Tanel. Could you share your thoughts on the Coil Whine? Perhaps make a small video showcasing it and some methods to reduce it? Given you've not mentioned it, it must not be as bad as people have been saying?
Hey!! I actually had a CRAZY coilwhine experience :D and even filmed it.. BUT decided not to add it in the video BECAUSE it was just one time for me.. and only when using the SILENT operating mode in games, which you would never really do.. when I used PERF or TURBO mode.. the coil whine was gone 100%.. and the fans were loud enough that you wouldnt pick it up that much. But if you really need to hear it here is the clip of that, you can hear the laptop is in SILENT mode, also again, sometimes it was there in SILENT MODE and sometimes it wasnt.. anyway 99% of the time I tested the thing in games, in Windows, no coilwhine at all. czcams.com/video/c2iFIfK4WIw/video.html
The reason your desktop 4080 beats out the 4090m in Port Royal is quite simple, they are both the same exact GPU die and memory with one key difference; power limit the desktop variant pulls a whopping 375W iirc which is more than double that of the mobile variant
The problem of hitting 100C is not a possible hardware failure, but the thermal throttling. For this and maybe next year the power margin of current top-end laptops may get away with this, but as graphics and tech in games evolve and cooling system compounds wear off, you'll feel throttling more and more. That's the sad truth of laptops, can't escape physics :( Also hate how manufacturers advertise liquid metal as a good thing. Thermals are still terrible, but now you can't just repaste it yourself withing few minutes to make it better. Darn, not every PC repairs shop will be able to properly clean and replace liquid metal without damaging your laptop.
Pretty sure liquid metal does not deteriorate over time so you never need to "repaste" it and even with regular paste.. Ive never had to repaste a laptop but then again Ive never used a laptop as a main PC for more then a few months. Also if you look at the AVERAGE temps, they stayed around 80c.. so peaking here or there to 100c might not be that major of an issue.
Great vid, keep up the good work. 1 small thing. You say "almost 400 fps in CSGO". CSGO is capped to 400 fps by default. Because of some engine quirks that ends up in 370-380 fps. My old Scar 17 ran CSGO above that on max settings. So just type "fps_max 0" in the console for your next review and you're golden!
Aah I member something like this.. thanks I will try to write this down and use it in some next benchmarks! (Already made 4070Ti video without this info so that video wont have this :P)
@@TheTanelChannel That for sure, a bit of a financial pain lol...But still I think for gaming like when your are travelling or something, it's perfect.
Keep up the good work. Great video, you answered all the questions. 10/10 for the video. This laptop is my top choice but there is one more option, Eluktronics mech 17 with liquid cooling. Asus is a bit better and nicer looking, but coal whine is a bit of worrying they say it might even go worse over time and Eluktronics has better cooling with the liquid cooler, what do you think? Appreciate your opinion.
The SCAR 18 has no issues with heat, the chassis is just slightly warm to touch. The Eluktronics is interesting but a bit of an hustle to carry your watercooling pump and radiator with you all the time and it aint much of a laptop then. No idea how good the build quality is on that thing eighter.
аххаха. ага. у него проблемы и с перегревом и с дросселями. хватит за бабки говорить что он хорош. ОН хуже ленова легиона, и аоруса 17x@@TheTanelChannel
Yeah I litereally just now did the bios update to play Diablo IV. Will see if the coil whine is still there in the exact same test where I noticed it before.
This is a great review bro, I was thinking about getting this laptop, but after watching this video, I might consider it. keep up the good work! god bless
I wonder if any of these reviewers actually keep the laptops they promote. I am guessing not though because a lot of these laptops i have looked at in the shops and the screens don't look that good at all.
I bought recently ROGI STRIX Scar 18 G834JZ and installed Windows 11 and can't get my speakers to work properly :( The sound has no depth, is too quiet and of poor quality. It seems that only upper tweeters work, the downside speakers on the bottom side seem not to work at all. I think I tried all possible drivers on the official Asus website. The laptop on the video is pretty much the same only difference is GPU i have 4080 on mine. I hope someone with similar problem can see this so they can help me
Apparently it reaches up to 55.6 at its loudest under full load. And is roughly 36db during quiet mode. But might be roughly 48-53 during normal use during performance I'd say..
I dont and my PG65UQ fan is super loud in the background.. but yeah I could do it in the other room in the future. I think you can find the db in someone elses review right now, but yeah in short, the SILENT mode was a passive mode if temps were under 60c.. so watching CZcams videos, browsing the web.. it is actually 0db in 22c room. You can still play games on SILENT operating mode, then fans make very little noise then but you have a lot less FPS. In TURBO yeah it was pretty loud but nothing crazy considering 24core cpu and 4090.
@@kb8582 No idea, Ive only tested this model. I wouldnt worry about the fan noise too much, its a 4090, i9... its gonna be loud BUT if you use PERFORMANCE mode which is about 20% lower performance it is like 50% quieter, still audiable but nowhere near as loud as Turbo.
the matte screen is horrible the black levels look horrible.compared it to the old flow x16 mini led glossy screen night and day difference but the hardware is powerful.
I mean to me the screen looked totally fine, very nice deep colours. If you want good blacks get an OLED but dont get OLED on laptops as they just burn in if you decide to ACTUALLY use a laptop daily.
What in the advertisement is that video. U mention the desktop 4090 price? Why the f? The 4090 mobile has nothing to do with it, it has 40% less power and is not even same power as desktop 4080 that it is based on.
I always choose to benchmark Extreme cause most of the time im using 4K in all tests. The regular is 1440p but this laptop is 1600p, there is no right way to test 3DMark in this scenario
@@TheTanelChannel my bad I just woke up when I was typing that but what I meant to say was to use the normal time spy because that’s what most people use in their benchmark and would be great if you could do it to because there’s already a somewhat data base I can use to compare different models
you weren't paying attention, 100C is the max on CPU ring. And it's not operationg temperature, it's a brief max. See average column. As for GPU - Nvidia GPUs won't let themselves go above 87C - they throttle. Even constantly having 87C on GPU means cooling system is almost dead
GPU was around 80c max, CPU goes to 100c in like 99% of laptops out there, its nothing new but It doesnt mean I like it. As I said, if the CPU temps are perfectly fine for this hardware, no throttling etc.. and the chassis feels slightly warm to touch if even that.. then I really dont see an issue raging about how high a number in your laptop is.
@@TheTanelChannel my msi with 3070ti, don't get more then 75-80C in games or work related software. And it's not even turbo speed on fans. My GF using lenovo legion with 3060 - 70/75c on gpu in games. So stop with this bullshit. 100 c in games in software from the shop - it's fucking garbage and need to be returned...
@@HCDMbart you are comparing CPU to GPU temps. Your 3070Ti laptop GPU? Pretty sure a 4090 is a bit faster and as such it is just a few degrees higher.. thats great. And again, cannot stress this enough, if the hardware is MEANT to work at 90-100c range.. it aint an issue to focus on, UNLESS you get throttling or hardware failure.
Man the screen is gloomy it's affecting a lot my eyes, I do not recommend it. The screen is worst than my regular 2015 Asus FHD. Bye bye Asus (g18 rtx 4070)
COIL WHINE TEST: czcams.com/video/c2iFIfK4WIw/video.html
FAN NOISE TEST: czcams.com/video/2jdMkrtIWGA/video.html
So I left these out of the review video but you can watch these tests in seperate videos over here.
While I did notice coil whine on the SCAR 18 I only noticed it a couple of times and only in the SILENT operating mode which limits your framerate to very low levels.
The noise was 0db while in Windows as fans are not spinning at all with light workload and when gaming it is on bar with any other powerful gaming laptops out there in terms of noise, but here you can choose to play games eighter in Silent, Performance or Turbo operating mode. Check the videos to learn more and even see what the FPS does in different modes.
Legend.
Hi TheTanelChannel!
Thank you for your Review and details!
About The Whine Coil I would like to ask you if you could test the same I'm showing in the video:
czcams.com/video/DQ9Q3r3uu5k/video.html
It is using Blender, Gpu mode on and interactive render in the viewport. When you move the 3D scene.
Then having the Scar 18 since 5 days I confirm all your points!!
Waiting for your reply,
Thank you again!!
@@gmarte82m Hey, as I stated, the coil whine is only audiable in SILENT operating mode where the GPU and CPU speed is limited. Turn it on PERF mode and it should go away. Sometimes it went away even in SILENT mode. I dont know how to use Blender, not a 3D modeler.
@@TheTanelChannel Thank you for your answer. No matter which mode, the Coil is present and audible once GPU is in use:/.
For Blender I'll do a video how to do it step by step, less then 1 minute, no requirements needed :)
@@gmarte82m Well look at my Fan Noise test video, you can see me playing Cyberpunk 2077 and even in SILENT mode you can hear it wasnt there.
I just got this laptop for 2100 dollars on facebook marketplace. It is a beast!
The rtx 4070 version you mean? I've ordered one too
@@tac2456 no the 4090 version lol
No the 4090 version.@@tac2456
This is an awesome review, thanks Tanel. Could you share your thoughts on the Coil Whine? Perhaps make a small video showcasing it and some methods to reduce it? Given you've not mentioned it, it must not be as bad as people have been saying?
Hey!! I actually had a CRAZY coilwhine experience :D and even filmed it.. BUT decided not to add it in the video BECAUSE it was just one time for me.. and only when using the SILENT operating mode in games, which you would never really do.. when I used PERF or TURBO mode.. the coil whine was gone 100%.. and the fans were loud enough that you wouldnt pick it up that much. But if you really need to hear it here is the clip of that, you can hear the laptop is in SILENT mode, also again, sometimes it was there in SILENT MODE and sometimes it wasnt.. anyway 99% of the time I tested the thing in games, in Windows, no coilwhine at all.
czcams.com/video/c2iFIfK4WIw/video.html
The reason your desktop 4080 beats out the 4090m in Port Royal is quite simple, they are both the same exact GPU die and memory with one key difference; power limit the desktop variant pulls a whopping 375W iirc which is more than double that of the mobile variant
mo power mo betta
The problem of hitting 100C is not a possible hardware failure, but the thermal throttling. For this and maybe next year the power margin of current top-end laptops may get away with this, but as graphics and tech in games evolve and cooling system compounds wear off, you'll feel throttling more and more. That's the sad truth of laptops, can't escape physics :(
Also hate how manufacturers advertise liquid metal as a good thing. Thermals are still terrible, but now you can't just repaste it yourself withing few minutes to make it better. Darn, not every PC repairs shop will be able to properly clean and replace liquid metal without damaging your laptop.
Pretty sure liquid metal does not deteriorate over time so you never need to "repaste" it and even with regular paste.. Ive never had to repaste a laptop but then again Ive never used a laptop as a main PC for more then a few months. Also if you look at the AVERAGE temps, they stayed around 80c.. so peaking here or there to 100c might not be that major of an issue.
@@TheTanelChannelyou are correct in it not deteriorating, however being liquid it will for most people leak out over time
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Great vid, keep up the good work.
1 small thing. You say "almost 400 fps in CSGO".
CSGO is capped to 400 fps by default. Because of some engine quirks that ends up in 370-380 fps. My old Scar 17 ran CSGO above that on max settings. So just type "fps_max 0" in the console for your next review and you're golden!
Aah I member something like this.. thanks I will try to write this down and use it in some next benchmarks! (Already made 4070Ti video without this info so that video wont have this :P)
CSGO at default is capping your fps at 400 i believe, so i think you can get even more frames on CSGO if you type fps_max 0 in the console
This year, I'm gonna get this bad boy right here.
Amen to both of us brother🔥🔥
@@HoneyBunsSupreme lets get it. 💯
Nice review, i am not very much into lap tops, but this one could be an exception, it look's really powerful and good.
It is, and will challenge most peoples wallets for a showdown!
@@TheTanelChannel That for sure, a bit of a financial pain lol...But still I think for gaming like when your are travelling or something, it's perfect.
nb super, i bought scar 18 834jz (w rtx4080), 64Gb kingston fury impact 5600Mhz+ssd samsung evo 970 2Tb - it's "pushka-gonka" ))).
Awesome review 👏
i can't wait for the scar30, 10050i be able to play games at 8k 500fps
Keep up the good work. Great video, you answered all the questions. 10/10 for the video.
This laptop is my top choice but there is one more option, Eluktronics mech 17 with liquid cooling.
Asus is a bit better and nicer looking, but coal whine is a bit of worrying they say it might even go worse over time and Eluktronics has better cooling with the liquid cooler, what do you think? Appreciate your opinion.
The SCAR 18 has no issues with heat, the chassis is just slightly warm to touch. The Eluktronics is interesting but a bit of an hustle to carry your watercooling pump and radiator with you all the time and it aint much of a laptop then. No idea how good the build quality is on that thing eighter.
аххаха. ага. у него проблемы и с перегревом и с дросселями. хватит за бабки говорить что он хорош. ОН хуже ленова легиона, и аоруса 17x@@TheTanelChannel
Hey Tanel, apparently a new BIOS has been released a couple days ago. Do you think you can see if the Coil Whine still exists?
Yeah I litereally just now did the bios update to play Diablo IV. Will see if the coil whine is still there in the exact same test where I noticed it before.
man ur a legend. best reviewer ever. greetsz
tyty :D
This is a great review bro, I was thinking about getting this laptop, but after watching this video, I might consider it. keep up the good work! god bless
I'll get it after this video
there aint no way in hell I pay 4k and i see the laptop doing 100c and thermal trottle without returning it back!
Not a laptop but a mobile PC. This laptop destroys last year's high end PCs.
thank you so much for amazing review
Thanks Medhat!
I wonder if any of these reviewers actually keep the laptops they promote. I am guessing not though because a lot of these laptops i have looked at in the shops and the screens don't look that good at all.
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Does it need cooling pad while intensive gaming?
for that price i could buy a 400cc bike, its hard to choose between the two especially if i don't have money XD
Do we get black bars on both ends on the screen while gaming too..or only while video watching on youtube..
any coil whine ? mine is bad when playing call of duty warzone 2 how is your?
I bought recently ROGI STRIX Scar 18 G834JZ and installed Windows 11 and can't get my speakers to work properly :(
The sound has no depth, is too quiet and of poor quality. It seems that only upper tweeters work, the downside speakers on the bottom side seem not to work at all. I think I tried all possible drivers on the official Asus website. The laptop on the video is pretty much the same only difference is GPU i have 4080 on mine. I hope someone with similar problem can see this so they can help me
Hey did you buy it new or used? Were they working before? Were you on win10 earlier? If all else fails try a reinstall of windows or something
Noise Level is Important for me. You have DB number for different Performance Modes?
Apparently it reaches up to 55.6 at its loudest under full load. And is roughly 36db during quiet mode. But might be roughly 48-53 during normal use during performance I'd say..
I dont and my PG65UQ fan is super loud in the background.. but yeah I could do it in the other room in the future.
I think you can find the db in someone elses review right now, but yeah in short, the SILENT mode was a passive mode if temps were under 60c.. so watching CZcams videos, browsing the web.. it is actually 0db in 22c room.
You can still play games on SILENT operating mode, then fans make very little noise then but you have a lot less FPS.
In TURBO yeah it was pretty loud but nothing crazy considering 24core cpu and 4090.
@@TheTanelChannel thanks for the awnser.
Is it compared to the 17 inch Model with 2 Fans louder?
@@kb8582 No idea, Ive only tested this model. I wouldnt worry about the fan noise too much, its a 4090, i9... its gonna be loud BUT if you use PERFORMANCE mode which is about 20% lower performance it is like 50% quieter, still audiable but nowhere near as loud as Turbo.
the matte screen is horrible the black levels look horrible.compared it to the old flow x16 mini led glossy screen night and day difference but the hardware is powerful.
I mean to me the screen looked totally fine, very nice deep colours. If you want good blacks get an OLED but dont get OLED on laptops as they just burn in if you decide to ACTUALLY use a laptop daily.
Best review...
Thanks!!
Does the screen wobble while typing or in general using the laltop?
Didn't with the SCAR 17 so I doubt it, but I can let you know tomorrow
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I’d say 9/10 it’s camera quality, sound, and noise canceling is mediocre at best.
What in the advertisement is that video.
U mention the desktop 4090 price? Why the f? The 4090 mobile has nothing to do with it, it has 40% less power and is not even same power as desktop 4080 that it is based on.
It is the fastest gaming GPU on the market in a laptop that is based on the 4090 architecture
Where can I buy it ?
Id start by asking your local retailers to get a decent deal for it, otherwise Amazon etc?!
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if I also had that the laptop❤✨️
Best review of this laptop I appreciate Raw performance and not that dlss stuff lol 😂 $4000 i might have to sell the wife 😅
Whats the song name at the beginning?
Should have checked the video description :P it´s a banger from 1998 Estonia.
A-RÜHM - Popmuusik
i like this guys mojo....
Bro why do u use to time spy testing . Can you just please use the normal time spy
I always choose to benchmark Extreme cause most of the time im using 4K in all tests. The regular is 1440p but this laptop is 1600p, there is no right way to test 3DMark in this scenario
@@TheTanelChannel my bad I just woke up when I was typing that but what I meant to say was to use the normal time spy because that’s what most people use in their benchmark and would be great if you could do it to because there’s already a somewhat data base I can use to compare different models
Try to crash it to see it’s potential
Great video, but absolute hot diarrhea of an intro music.
should you buy one? Hell yeah! Can you? Hell no
Yolo! Buy it
100C on GPU = dead laptop in 6-12 months...
How it could be 10 of 10??? Avoid this shit laptop guys...
you weren't paying attention, 100C is the max on CPU ring. And it's not operationg temperature, it's a brief max. See average column.
As for GPU - Nvidia GPUs won't let themselves go above 87C - they throttle. Even constantly having 87C on GPU means cooling system is almost dead
GPU was around 80c max, CPU goes to 100c in like 99% of laptops out there, its nothing new but It doesnt mean I like it.
As I said, if the CPU temps are perfectly fine for this hardware, no throttling etc.. and the chassis feels slightly warm to touch if even that.. then I really dont see an issue raging about how high a number in your laptop is.
@@TheTanelChannel my msi with 3070ti, don't get more then 75-80C in games or work related software. And it's not even turbo speed on fans.
My GF using lenovo legion with 3060 - 70/75c on gpu in games.
So stop with this bullshit. 100 c in games in software from the shop - it's fucking garbage and need to be returned...
@@HCDMbart you are comparing CPU to GPU temps. Your 3070Ti laptop GPU? Pretty sure a 4090 is a bit faster and as such it is just a few degrees higher.. thats great. And again, cannot stress this enough, if the hardware is MEANT to work at 90-100c range.. it aint an issue to focus on, UNLESS you get throttling or hardware failure.
Man the screen is gloomy it's affecting a lot my eyes, I do not recommend it. The screen is worst than my regular 2015 Asus FHD. Bye bye Asus (g18 rtx 4070)
In which part of this video did u talk about its display?
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