'The Last of Us: Part I' - A Skeptical Review
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- The Last of Us: Part 1 is just as good as it's ever been. But it's no better than before, and that's a problem for returning players who are being asked to spend $70... Thank you to Playstation for the review code!
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I was surprised more folks aren't talking about the lack of multi-player which was so much fun.
The Spyro Trilogy and Crash Trilogy were incredible remakes that were $40 when they came out. The fact that this is $70 just puts Sony's greed on full display...
@@tb1235 if you could charge $70 wouldnât you? This is what all companies do-they charge the most they can. And ND can charge $70 for this. So why wouldnât they? You would too if it was your product. Nobody charges far less than they have to.
@@Brian-ou9uz I absolutely would not because I'm not a money hungry corporate sleazeball. Just because a company can do something, it doesn't make it morally irreprehensible.
Hey i Luke, I believe the quick twirl around mechanic was already present in The Last Of Us 1.
Quick turn around is literally one of the first things you do in first last of us. Itâs not a gameplay element added from TLOU2. Just thought Iâd mention that.
Yeah... I was thinking that.. but couldn't really remember... Yeah I remember now. Game forces u to do it when the army truck explodes. But it's timing was so hit or miss and the delay was too great... that it's pretty much impossible to do reactively or anywhere in the game other than a novelty.
@@Hydra360ci Yep, the game teaches it to you after the Fireflies blow up the military truck in the first chapter.
@@Hydra360ci not only that but the animation to quick turn actually takes longer then turning around regularly. because it's literally just that animation, then it stops THEN you can move. Rather then moving in motion as you turn around.
Luke is not very good at being correct
Also the pause when you injure someone and they beg for their life isn't new as well. Very big error in his critique, still mentions good points though.
One of the main arguments Iâve seen made for not having dodge and prone is that part 1 was not designed with those mechanics in mind so they would have to go back and rework a bunch of level design to make it fit in. Kind of like what they would do if it was a remake.... oh wait, it is.
It's always hilarious to me when they mention that. Why the hell are you remaking a game if you're going to keep the gameplay completely the same? Even Demon's Souls added omnidirectional rolling and many other QoL features and that wasn't even remade by the same developer as the original game. TLOU1's gameplay was outdated when it came out and is still outdated in the remake.
The irony is not lost on me. It's just ND being lazy and trying to make excuses, because anyone with a brain knows that rebuilding a game from the ground up means there is nothing in the way to make new features not work.
This is it! You try telling people this and they just think youâre crazy. Why bother remaking something if youâre not going to improve the gameplay? If they had completely redesigned the levels and combat design it wouldâve been well worth the asking price because then itâs actually a brand new game and not just the same game again with better graphics and very slight improvements.
I mean for christâs sake, look at Resident Evil 1 and 2 remake, look at Black Mesa. Theyâre more than just the same game all over again.
Why would the last of us feel like the exact same game as the last of us 2. Games were multiple people are playable people will complain that they feel exactly the same. When they feel different people will complain that itâs not the same
@@eddieescobedo9975 It doesnât have to be exactly the same Lol, just contain at least a few basic ass upgrades
That guy being blown apart with the shotgun feels like a most realistic depiction of the fourth rank of the Blood Mess perk in Fallout 4.
The mirror in her room is not Ray traced, it's just a camera pointing out from the angle of the mirror, then it's rendered and applied as a texture to the mirror surface. This is the way reflections were done in games for a really long time.
Actually itâs rtx
@@MrRealityXD Actually, it's not.
â@@MrRealityXDNot raytraced, and DEFINITELY not RTX lmao
The OP here is correct. It's what we developers refer to as a "render-to-texture" reflection, and it does exactly as the name implies-- it renders the scene from the point of view of the mirror, and applies that realtime render to a texture (the texture of the mirror)
Joelâs daughters reflection in the screen door is actually in the ps3 version too, I was so blown away at the time that I played that actually stuck out for me. Itâs a very low resolution reflection but still very cool for attempting at least.
Almost like a subtle "jump scare" kind of thing where you aren't expecting to see a reflection like that, especially on PS3.
I think that was the only mirror in the entire game that had actual reflections.
@@MASJYT mirror in the bathroom and her bedroom.
@@soremuss Ah yes. Ok 2 lol.
@@MASJYT 3* lmao you just can't count, huh? â ïž
Iâm overall really impressed by the graphics and everything , but for the moment I donât feel like getting it for full price again . Iâm just not very excited about paying 70 bucks for a game that Iâve already played soooo many times before .
Sir how dare you not consume product and then get excited about next product
There is no multi-player either
Don't think so much about missing features and start consuming the product
I donât really think this game is for people that have already played the game like us but for the hbo show watchers and pc crowd
tbh I never really played tloa for longer than 20 minutes never played tlou2 nor am I planning on ever playing it in the future. I'm just pissed at the lazy AAA gaming industry
We need more games that pushes gore like this, I'm tired of shooters games scaring away from gore and blood.
Maybe I am a loser but this remake actually blew my mind and reignited my love for this game and I think it was a very worthy 70$ for me
Not a loser it's just your opinion. What others think about and and what you think about it doesn't matter. If you have fun with something it's worth it
The game is gorgeous, but not worth $70 when itâs the exact same game beat for beat.
I agree with your opinion 100%
Youâre not a loser, at all. I played this a bunch of times, and I gotta say the graphics in this version look so much better than the original PS4 version, but thatâs just me. You donât have to take my word for it.
Not a loser for liking one of the most beautiful remakes of all time. Although the $70 price tag is really steep and I can only recommend on sale, it clearly didn't take your enjoyment away because it's easily the definitive way to play this game.
At that price, they should have bundled it with Part 2.
what part 2?
@@cleanboi9136 The Last of Us Part 2. Released 2020.
@@Sasha-lf8bu thereâs only one last of us game, they havenât made a sequel
@@cleanboi9136 yeah ok đ
@@cleanboi9136 thats the funnniest shit Ive ever heard wow
So let me get this straight:
Crash Bandicoot N'sane Trilogy / Spyro Reignited Trilogy - remakes of over 20 year old trilogies, with new voices and osts, bonus levels and improved gameplay - 40$
Final Fantasy 7 Remake / Resident Evil 2 Remake - a total reimagining of the original, over 20 year old games, with new gameplay, music and voices, making it a new experience without making original games obsolete - 60$
Mass Effect Legendary Edition - a whole trilogy, with all DLCs, better graphics, and improved gameplay - 60$
The Last of Us. Part 1 - new models + one DLC - 70$
You forgot Skyrim & mafia but yes, it's a cash grab
+ the dlc that came with the remaster, lmfao BASED
This is a first party ps5 game. Ps5 games tend to cost $70 so no surprise really.
What was Resident Evil 2 Remake really? A short game with a limited amount of small areas that you could play through with different characters, so it appeared the game had more content then it actually did. I really enjoyed the remake, but just by looking at the content and the amount of work the remake must have cost, 60 bucks is way overpriced compared to other 60 dollar games.
@@rexomnipotentus387 TLOU is short too, and at least RE2 has the flex that it feels like an actual remake.
There are a few inconsistencies in what he said about the bow and glass breaking: the bow reticle can be switched in the HUD settings and you can break glass in certain levels and areas - just depends on where you are.
I've been playing through this game and Ellie still runs into the field of view of human enemies.
What in the hell does this tell us about the so called AI improvement?
This game isn't built from the ground up. Its actually a play on words.
I honestly agree. Statements like Naughty Dog claiming dodge or prone would break the game seem like good indicators to me that this "Rebuilt from the ground up" line is total BS.
It happens much, much less frequently. Digital foundry does a side by said AI showcase
It's almost like AI isn't perfected yet
@@Naaka_311 play god of war
I agree with everything you have said, you absolutely nailed it.
If the price was $40 I could over look 99% of the lack of additions but at $70 forget it Sony.
In Canada it 100$ so basically it's 89$ plus tax. So it basically comes up to 100$
That's why you should just play anything else in your backlog and pick it up when the price has dropped. That's what I do for like 90% of the games I get. I save loads of money in the grand scheme of things, and the number of games I have represent way more money than what I actually paid to get them.
What additions for example?
@@_Bereitschaft_ did you even watch the video? Luke went over the stuff they could have added
Where were you lot when they did it with Demons Souls?
I played the remaster on the PS4 Pro and really enjoyed it. I loved the story, but spending $70 more on the same story isn't something I'll be doing.
Remaster not remake bruh
@@Angelowalker. - good callout. Remaster.
@@BusyDadGaming You can edit your original comment lol
@@scuvarromanyuk7359 - already did, but probably hadn't updated for you yet.
Here's a little life lesson, stories get rehashed all the time, even in movies. The original Star Wars is a rehash of a different story with similar character arcs.
It took 15+ versions of Skyrim till people complained.
Overall, I find the the graphics upgrade to be amazing, I love a lot of the changes they made in the facial expressions. Much like you Luke I am also upset they didnât bring over dodge and prone over from tlou2.
Now one thing I also liked was the weapons upgrade. I really loved that system from part 2 so much I nerd over it every time I played through it. I think itâs a system that needs to be implemented into most games. But I really liked how they utilized the tools and combined that with the same upgrade system they had in part 2. Best idea they had. If they are going to make a part 3. They need this this system.
Agreed completely on the weapon upgrade system, it's a total weapon porn :D Much like you I'd love to see this system implemented into more games. Perhaps not most, as it depends a lot on what kind of attachment you are allowed to form with the weapons you use in a given game, but in many it would be an improvement for sure.
Imho it has similar vibes to the Resident Evil 2 Remake system where each attachment changed the look, the function and even inventory size of the weapon in question. This system is arguably even better though, it definitely deepens the relationship you have with your weapons.
I wish that they didn't change Joel's face tho
my dude got a code and still gave it a stern review. good job, luke. for me, no prone and dodging are the worst sins; those two changes alone would convince me to replay part 1, since they made part 2 so much better for me.
EDIT: oh and you forgot to mention if the enemies scream out each other's names when they die. judging from the state of things, i'm guessing that they don't.
especially after they innovated lou2 with the revolutionary jump feature, i was getting mad inches with the hops. ill never feel the same playing any other tlou game if i cant bunny hop thru the game lol
The main reason they released this game is because naughty dog is going all in on the last of us. They want a bigger audience for the show and future projects so remaking the game just made sense. Theyre about to release the part 1 remake, the show plans on releasing next year, info on the huge last of us open world multiplayer game will release soon, and they already announced plans to eventually do a third game. They released this game bc naughty dog is allll in on the last of us and I'm all for it
@@andrewambrusko3651 Do you have confirmation of a 3rd game? I haven't seen anything about that.
@@puppy_crossing411 they talked in a recent interview that theyve already been working on a script for a third game, they said its not final but I imagine with how much last of us content naughty dog is shooting out there's no way they're not making a third game eventually
Preordered
I appreciate that alot of work went into this but there is nothing that is going to change the fact that this is the same game.
They didn't have to go through years of story boarding to write a new story, didn't need to pay Voice actors and write a script again, didn't have to desighn the areas from the ground up and didn't have to throw 5+years at it to make it happen
Why is ÂŁ70 (more than it cost a decade ago) justifiable for this product.
Exactly. And all while removing multi-player too.
Exactly the truth here. Skilled developers just basically traced over a game which they had already created and made it look a bit better with removed multiplayer option and added accessibility features.
@@oneyplayes465 which the accessibility features were already created from Part II.
YES! Literally admitted to "Keeping everything the same"
So much so they didn't even redo any of the mocap/acting. This game is just much more borderline a really nice remaster. It's not a Remake in my eyes. If more then 50% of the usual game development work was already done for you then wtf are we buying?
@@dh2266 I also wouldnât be surprised if more things like assets and models were taken out of part 2. There is no way I am supporting this. Gaming is never only about graphics like Sony wants us to think.
I honestly believe game developers suffer the same issue as if you wrote out a research paper. You donât notice the spots that obviously need improvements or think adding something extra is unnecessary but when having a second eye read your paper for the first time, they see what needs to be added in a necessary way and then everything just makes more sense and now your paper is more interesting and thrilling to read.
I really appreciate the overall honesty in this review despite having received a review code. Many creators are tempted to succumb into blind positivity when receiving a code so that makes it very easy to recommend you. Love the work and the breakdowns you do!
Unlike Sony and ND, he didn't take the lazy way and sacrificed his integrity and hard work for easy gains.
To be honest, Iâm impressed with how great everything looks. Itâs my favorite game of all time and I wouldâve loved to pay $10 for the ps5 upgrade. But to try to charge me $70 to play the game again is just a slap in the face. Improved graphics, enemy/buddy AI, and accessibility features are not worth more than the original game.
Some of the people defending the $70 price tag talked shit about rockstar releasing gta5 for the 3rd time and Iâve found that fucking hilarious.
$70 is a lot of money I agree, but you canât compare it to GTA V. That gameâs âupgradeâ was pretty much a port to PS5 or PS4 with the settings bumped up, although you do get ray tracing for the PS5. This game seems to be an actual remake with new models, reanimated scenes, remade textures, etc. Very different compared to the less impressive PS4 remaster. Iâd say $45 should be the ideal price for this upgrade.
bout all game companies do that. all their trying to do is make money just some people try to defend certain ones because they are their "favorite". makes me laugh some will do that and people will be all đĄ then if their's does it they are oh it's ok lol
Except what rockstar did was just a port. At least Naughty Dog invested time and work to remake the game.
@@jp_enduresurvive7374 rockstar didnât charge $70
@@brandondunkin5816 Cause they barely did anything to the game. Naughty Dog rebuilt characters, levels (even if the levels are 1:1 to the original in terms of placement) etc.
Considering i was here from quite early, the fact that luke got a playstation review copy feels kinda like a huge milestone, hopefully he gets one for Ragnarök đ
"We"??? Lol
@@DV-ou1yu Lol, you know what i mean đ
After this, salty Sony probably won't give him one
@@JM-tr4ro lol
@@theinfinitynerd4954 Or charge him $50 đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ„ș
You can criticize the price tag all you want, but saying "they didn't even try" is an insult to the people that worked on this, just for a sensational thumbnail. Do better đ
Well said
They don't care about you bro
@@buttertoast1146so they made this game beautiful game just for them to not care about its customer? doesnât make sense
They should of added more mechanicâs of part 2 to rlly justify this game, because only âremakingâ the visuals is just a poor damn excuse when the first one already looked fine, this just seems like an excuse to make abby dad the same as part 2 nothing else, when they could of spend resources in making another thing rather than the last of us at this point
Bros feelings got hurt đ
For the DuelSense, if you go in settings and turn on vibration for dialogue, it makes it immersive as hell, especially with a headset on
I thought the quick turnaround was in the original game already. I remember using something similar in the beginning when that truck explodes.
It is.
It was in the original already, yes
So was the enemies begging for their life. Just gotta make sure you shoot the very last enemy in the leg to trigger it, but it's been there since ps3
â@@slaystationgaming3212 Same with the gore system. It was always there and it has always been robust and detailed
Yes. It is
FYI, the 'raytraced reflections' you showed was a basic planar reflection. It's an old technique that only works on flat surfaces, has to be manually set up, and it's basically rendering the whole scene 2ce per reflection so is used sparingly, but moreso in scripted linear games.
Random puddles, cars, and smaller or more complex objects still have ssr artifacts or cubemap limitations, so RT definitely isn't a thing.
Yup, and those same reflections also existed on the PS3.
They never even claimed it had ray tracing so idk why he would even put that in the video
Itâs not the first time Iâve heard people say the game is using ray tracing, I donât know where thatâs coming from. I think people just expect new games to have ray tracing.
@@ashleykettle343 nobody seems to know what it actually does. They often think 'oh, it doesn't make any difference other than tank performance' or 'this looks good so it must be raytraced'.
The best way to understand raytracing is to understand what has been used in its place for years, and all the limitations devs have been working with. You'll then notice RT when the lighting doesn't have the errors you'd usually expect otherwise.
They use a dual layer solution with detailed cube maps with a screen space later over top of that. It's really convincing because the cube maps stay in place even when screen space is disrupted.
Quick turn is available on the original game, you're introduced to it on the beggining of the game when the fireflies make that car bomb attack when you're about to leave the city with Tess.
People way underrated this remake because, having played the game twice already and now playing a third with this remake, I can tell you that it is significantly better than the OG and easily one of the most beautiful games Iâve played on PS5 so far. So much disrespect and cynicism in this video to the amount of work that really goes into something like this, Iâve been incredibly and continually impressed by it.
Same, I finished the OG TLOU over 10 times by now and I'm still having a blast with the remake
Why am I not surprised as if we consider this a remake, it's definitely one of the weaker ones in this modern age of remakes. Especially compared to titles such as the Resident Evil 2 remake, or Mafia Definitive Edition. Overhauled gameplay that's still true to the original. Rebuilt level/world design from a gameplay point of view. Etc.
Because you're comparing it to reimaginings. "A spine-chilling reimagining of a horror classic" Capcom's own description. When people ask for a remake, TLOU and Resident Evil (not 2/3) are what they are asking for. Not RE2/FF7.
@@macdaddymario A lot of people simply believe a remake and a 'reimagining' are the same thing... cuz often, many remakes go well beyond just updating the graphics and lighting systems.
Theres also remasters and comprehensive remasters... and i'd say, this TLOU part 1 is a comprehensive remaster and a well done one too. But we stretch it a bit when we want to label it as a remake, as the only things that got upgrades were the graphics & accessibility options.
Oh I see it's "reimagining" now, not remake, and we're all pretending these words have any concrete objective definitions and not weasel bs made up 5 minutes ago.
@@macdaddymario Stop playing semantics, they are exactly the same word and you are acting as if it isn't.
They literally titled Resident Evil 2 in Japan REmake2, Resident Evil 4 seems to be the "reimagining" because it will be changing the story and general atmosphere from the original which RE2 didn't.
But besides that, compare this game to Mafia Remake which was $50 and changed much more than what this remaster has done.
I think they did a pretty amazing job, I just wish they added the Dodge mechanic. That's the only let down for me considering the $70 price tag. I still pre-ordered it and I'm really excited to play it. I think other than the Dodge mechanic, they made an extremely faithful remake. The other games you mentioned just seem like better remix because the original counterparts were older. I mean.. visually, this game is ahead of the other remakes you mentioned. It looks more visually impressive than Resident Evil 2 and Mafia. Those other games just had older Originals so it is a bigger leap
I miss Joel's old model. The anger and intensity in his eyes has been replaced by a constant look of uncertainty. Am I the only one who sees this?
I see it, too. I find it's most prominent with Tess especially during her death cutscene compared to the original. I feel like these changes in their facial expressions, while technological marvels, hurts their established characters a bit.
@@Takejiro24 Agreed. Very well said.
I've been thinking the EXACT same thing and it kind of takes away the essence of what i originally liked about the game, but it still looks fine nonetheless
To me Ellie doesnât have that same young girl charm from the original.
Me too. Joel looks like a soft old dad not a hardened tormented traumatised rough man.
It honestly feels like this remake exists solely so they can put Part 1 in the title
Little trick with the safes you donât even need to find the code just turn the selector until you hear a click then move too the next number.
Seems like Iâll get just as much satisfaction from watching someone play this on a stream. Once they drop the price way down, I might pick it up for myself. Thanks, Luke
And that was the last time Luke received a review code from Sony...
Great video, you were thorough and fair. I'm glad you held them to task on what should clarify as a 'remake' or a 'remaster', this game clearly being the latter. Shame that a few simple changes would slightly forgive the extortionate asking price. I'll gladly wait and buy a reduced copy.
I respect him for being honest though. He pretty much stayed objective for this whole review. This game feels like a super remaster rather than a remake. This game should of gotten significant gameplay mechanics and redesign levels and expansion of certain levels in order to warrant the âremakeâ title. Like Luke said, this game is just a cash grab.
@@javo10ful even without fundamental changes to the gameplay, the amount of effort that has gone into overhauling the visuals, cutscenes, sheer emotion on characters' face, aka the things that were the best parts of the original, tell me it's pretty unfair to call it a cash grab. GTA V for ps5 was a cashgrab, far too much work has gone into this for that description to be fair
@@SuperSupermanX1999 that is why I'm glad rockstar allowed to be ÂŁ8 for a time when it first game out onto next gen.
What naughty dog have done "remade" without gameplay changes defeats remake in my opinion. I think that is what many people are annoyed about therefore is a "cash grab" I would have been swayed to buy it if there was gameplay changes, and I'm happy to wait for a sale or free.
So they changed cutscenes, graphics and sound design... basically to compare is a jump from VHS, dvd, and now ultra 4k bluray. (my opinion) Yes the cutscenes and visuals look incredible.
Luke done a good thing about being honest... keeps his content reliable.
He was constructive which isn't negative, it is something that lacks these days within media consumerism.
1st and last review code from Sony
@@SuperSupermanX1999 And given the fact that everything was rebuilt from the ground up, it wouldn't have taken all that much more work to add new features and alter level design to accommodate them. I'm sure a team of people worked hard on the game, but $70 dollars for nothing but a cosmetic improvement is just too much, and an obvious cash grab by Sony.
Great review very informative. I was wondering are you able to change the difficulty level in the middle of the game. I like to play Survivor but I know the bloater boss fight might frustrate me too much (which I heard is a little more difficult on this remake) and like to know I have the option of dropping it down a notch if I die more than 20 times. Thx
Appreciate this analysis. Resonates a lot with what I feel. My dad just got back into gaming, and he's going to see this advertised (after just finishing the original), and how am I supposed to sell him on it? It's tough.
Makes me wonder if the new coming fans are really worth alienating the OGs. In business, that formula usually never works out in the end. You never want to punish your loyal customers for sticking through everything, you'll lose more than you gain.
It looks to me like Naughty Dog is in a similar place that companies like Bethesda and Rockstar are in right now: they became famous making incredible original single-player content, everyone fell in love with them, they began experimenting which often removes the widespread love, then proceed to make multiplayer content to maximize profits. Now with Naughty Dogâs next game confirmed to be a multiplayer experience, all I can see is the same story playing itself out over and over again.
Ya had a good run Naughty Dog! Guess all good things must end
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. The og had a multi-player and the new multi is the sequel to that. It just happened to be that they made it a bigger game than they wanted because they wanted us fans of it to love it.
Now whether it'll be good that's to be seen
I think they're gonna be alright.
Just cause theyâre making a multiplayer game. Thatâs a bit of a reach.
@@3lankfac32 Not to mention it's supposed to be a F2P offering set in the world of TLOU, and we already know isn't the only game they are working on... Mans is stretching more than Mr. Fantastic.
@@macdaddymario "Not to mention it's supposed to be a F2P offering set in the world of TLOU..."
Uh, aren't you backing up his initial claim then? Cuz Bethesda and Rockstar definitely took their most iconic IPs (Fallout, Elder Scrolls, GTA and Red Dead) and turned them into multiplayer live-service/mobile products too.
Not saying I actually agree with the guy's take... but pointing out Naughty Dogs next project is a F2P multiplayer game about TLOU doesn't do much to refute his view.
Thank you for keeping your integrity and providing your honest feedback even though the copy was provided to you from Sony. I expected nothing else but it never fails to be a refreshing feeling when I come back to your channel. Well done on all your success, utterly deserved.
P.S BRING BACK THE LONG 5 HOUR + REVIEWS! Lol :)
All your success⊠Iâd wager those social blade stats show the contrary.
salam
@@slimeyslim "All your success⊠Iâd wager those social blade stats show the contrary."
This honestly sounds so bitter... lol. Guessing you musta been Luke's former assistant before he fired ya?
@@isr2879 plz dont simp
For people who have played this game multiple times on multiple systems with multiple purchases, it's hard to justify buying it again until drops to under $20.00.
Same story, whole different gaming experience. People forget how dated the remaster is, the gameplay is just as phenomenal as part 2 now
actually the pullback x mechanic was in the first game but i 100% agree. super disappointed thereâs no dodging
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Piccolo is disappointed.
Nobody understands that if they were to add prone they would have to change the level design.
How so?
@@Takejiro24 the prone mechanic was in tlou2 because the game wanted to add more depth in the stealth side, tall grass and cars to go under where all there for the prone mechanic, introducing it in tlou part 1 would require new level design adding motives to use it like tlou2
@@PadreMaronnolo Makes sense. Thanks.
They should have done that
Appreciate the thoughtful analysis here. Excellent video I very much agree. If I hadnât already played TLOU over a dozen times across 2 consoles Iâd be stoked for this but I just canât justify the price tag.
Never seen your channel before. This review is exactly what I've been looking. Thanks for your honesty and thorough review. Subscribing!
I was under the impression the new combat would include the dodge & prone features. Super disappointed that isnât the case & feel cheated thatâs how they were advertising this as a âbuilt from the ground upâ game. It feels rushed to accommodate the HBO series release & way too soon after TLOU 2.
Then itâs not a remake, thatâs a reimagining. It changes the whole dynamic of the original game
@@KooliSkey Bullcrap.
You dont even know what it means.
Remake is done from the nothing, reimaginaning is on DREAMS level, closer to original design.
$70 so you can prone in a ten year old game. Lmfao gaming is dead
@@nousername2942 When we can skate in DAH remake so they can make to can prone in TLOU1 "Remake".
It isnt difficult when they already worked with adding combat from 2nd and other things.
They were lazy.
It is criminal action of overpricing same game that is just updated from original.
@@SeriousDragonify Oh god, listen TLOU1 and TLOU2 are entirely different playing games. One is a 50 year old man the other is a young woman. If you change the first game to add mechanics that werenât available before that entirely change the gameplay sequences, thus itâs a reimagining. Demon Soulâs had no gameplay changes just graphics for $70 and who complained?
I think the sweet spot would have been $49.99. Perfect for people that want to experience the game again while taking advantage of the PS5 power and for people that never played the game and can easily get this and TLOU Pt 2 for really cheap and dive into the series.
This game won't be 70 bucks forever and there is no need to play this game right at release. At release Sony/Naughty Dog targets people who are willing to pay full price and later down the line the prices will drop, so they can target people who weren't willing to pay full price. It doesn't make any sense to not ask 70 bucks at first, if enough people are willing to pay it.
@@rexomnipotentus387 and people completely forget about the game and never buy it because so many other games are comming out so they end up loseing sales from tons of people who would pay $40 but end up never buying it and some who buy it year later for $20
@@samgoff5289 behave. It could go on sale a year from now and people would STILL buy it. It's a popular franchise despite lots of people crapping on it constantly, all because Druckman decided to take HIS story somewhere that the masses didn't like
@@Discombobulate453 it WAS a popular franchise....woke garbage like a lot of other favorite franchises that die because of it
Almost every first party PS5 game is going to cost 70$.
The quick turn around as well as enemies begging for their lives do exist in the original tlou, at least in the ps4 remaster
You sir are now my favorite reviewer. Professional, honest, and relatable. What else is to say about this review? PERFECT
Spending 70$ on a remastered game that was released almost 10 years ago is an absolute madness, I think you should save that money for GOW Ragnarok
One more thing is that Sony has started to irrationally increase the prices of its exclusive games in a complete silence of the players, Sony must take into account the players' love for their platform and abandon greed.
They're a business, their goal is to make money.
The leaks for Ragnarok arenât looking good though. Apparently Kratos waltzes into Asgard unarmed and introduces himself. Then he gets kneecapped and bludgeoned to death by Mjolnir. Then Atreus doesnât get revenge because itâs very bad.
@@josemariantoniofajardo2941 do you think this is true, lol? It's a GOD OF WAR game and if Cory Barlog has more than 50 IQ, he knows that this decision will destroy that company
Wait....but in the trailer he says "War is not the only way..."đ
They are being sued right now. The sue case will most likely take years before final verdict, but still nice to see people standing up to big companies who have anti consumer policies.
@@thorny8013 lol đ
Iâm honestly very happy they replaced the bow with Part 2âs đ that arc aiming was always so weird for long distance shots, way more satisfying and easier to pull off in 2
The bow is ridiculously cool, especially letting a shot fire and sometimes not hearing it hit until half a second later, and every time that happens it just... doesn't get old.
I thought it was just graphic improvements so Iâm quite happy that AI improvements are Alison included. I think I would be disappointed if they changed too much, I loved the original and wouldnât want it too feel so different. Overall a prettier version of my favourite game is a win for me. Not that I would ever pay the full price for it but realistically thatâs gonna shoot down so quick it doesnât even really matter.
Honestly tho i feel like the combat feels much better. Still outdated a bit in some ways but it just feels more like, part 2 and part 1 combined a bit.
What Mic are you using?
More then likely Iâll pick this up on PC whenever it does launch because I do love the fact Sony is releasing more of their titles on other platforms. But no way in hell am I paying full retail price for a game I already bought twice on 2 other platforms. Once that steam sale kicks in then Iâll pick up
Yes, as a PC gamer whos starting point is the well working but hardware- hungry RPCS3 version, I really like their plans to release it on this platform. This should be rewarded with atleast 50 bucks, cant wait to play this remake again and wait for awesome mods :)
I will wait for pc release, i dont have other choice. Plus i will get it for free , like every game i have on my pc đđđ
Then don't buy it stop complaining...It was not remade for you
No dodge and no prone is heartbreaking
You crushed this video! Great work I truly enjoyed it
First game $60. Remaster $40. Remake $70 = $170 for the same game. One of my favorite games of all time but I canât even justify paying $70 for this.
This was a good review of this! I watched scallops and I couldnât believe he supported the $70 price tag. This actually cost more than the last of us part two! Itâs not like they started from nothing⊠Thereâs no way they should be $70. It is a beautified remaster that weâve all played at least a dozen times. This is a hard pass for me
Itâs such a hard recommendation too when you consider part 2 is longer (like 30-50% longer), has better gameplay, better feedback from enemies (calling out to each other etc) and retails for 30ish, regularly on sale for 18..
Just buy it on sale for $35 in 1-2 years tbh
Naughty Dog is just trying to reach a larger audience with this imo. It could be a good thing now but Iâm very skeptical that thatâs going to be a good thing in a few years. A lot of franchises that expand too much tend to drop in quality trying to make everyone happy. I really hope not.
@@carloszestyboy2901 This isn't even expansion. It's literally the same game for the third time lol it won't be bringing very many people in. We need to let devs know they need to stop rereleasing ten year old games or half assed bugfests.
The visuals do look very impressive in some parts, but the jump in quality isn't big enough to justify the price, if only it was an actual ground up remake and featured new improved mechanics it would potentially be worth the price of a new game...
Well it is literally a ground up remake, they just decided to not to that.
@@paddington2063 a ground up remake is ff7r lol
@@garygray5040 No, thatâs a reimagining
@@megamanx1291 then shadow of the colossus
It still shouldn't be full price for a re-release.
Was the final enemy final blow 'execution' in the original? Seemed like that wasnt added until TLOU2 and i noticed several times the last enemy alive did the plead for mercy and you could slowly approach and kill or strike.
What? You can dodge with triangle?
Btw the quick turn around was in the original tlou. It even pops up a tutorial message for it in the beginning when you're trying to leave the zone to go find Robert but there's an explosion that makes them close off the gateway
I feel like they should atleast have some sort of loyalty system for players who already bought the games before. E.g,
First game ever in series - 60$
Already Own Part 2 - 45$
Already Own the original or remastered LOU - 30$
Already own both games - 20$
Something like this
This is Sony we're talking about. Ask them to reduce the price and they'll make it higher instead
Youâre expecting to much from a company like Sony đ€Ł
To be perfectly honest, Sony should have borrowed a page from companies like CA, or Microsoft who gave an outright 40% or 50% discount to people who owned the original game. That would have solved the price issue and got them many more sales. It's simply asinine that they sell it just for 70$ for everyone regardless of whether you own any of the previous versions(original or remaster) already, which as you said is a huge barrier for people to buy this game on top of 1 or both of those previous versions.
The safe code system is likely for speed runners or NG+ players to just open them without finding the combos
Saying they didnât try is incorrect, saying they didnât add enough and the price is too steep is far more fair
They did try.
The first time they made the game.
They just re did what the first team tried really hard to do.
This is the second time it's been "rebuilt from the ground up." Kinda defines not trying.
Seeing this game relived with this level of graphical fidelity gave me a satisfaction I simply cannot describe. Sorry if you didn't get enough "bang for your buck" but it's everything I ever wanted from it.
People will never be happy
Professional consumer
@@kptlt.phillipthomsen5973luke stephens has to make a leak video, a skeptical pre release video, an optimistic day before video, a skeptical review, and a this game did something incredible video.
I'm honestly getting sick and fucking tired of companies just CONSTANTLY re-releasing games that came out TWO FUCKING CONSOLE GENERATIONS AGO to earn more money. Like... why not put those resources to helping to make a new game?
Thank you for the review. You confirmed what I suspected. I guess I will wait years before touching this one or wait until it is on PS Plus.
As some have said, I am very happy that you stay consistent with your other reviews and criticized the company/studio even if copy was provided.
Kudos to you Sir
Yeah. Same here. I will just wait for the next remake of Last of us Part one..
Everyone has basically reached the same conclusion: The LoUP1 is a great game that was remade too soon and is being sold for the wrong price. Hopefully Sony gets the memo.
Absolutely. This should have been a remake with new gameplay systems and come out after the next big ND title.
At least you can open the safe like IRL.
By listening to the clicks and that different click.
You're channel is very underrated.. love how you break these games down..
Great video as usual Luke! Just a little nitpick, the quickturn was already in the og, there's even a tutorial when you're on you're way to meet Robert and the fireflies attack the gates
Same for begging enemies.
Skill Up just sucked it off till no end making it sound like the best thing ever.. Iâm glad to see someone warning people from spending full price for a graphic update. Honestly I never really liked the gameplay so I will probably never play this.
Skill Up has good reviews but when he shills he becomes Shill Up đ€Ł
@@coreycasciano3255 He is one of the harshest critics of TLOU2, having a video NOT recommending it, he was fully ready to dismiss this as an actual cash grab but he played it for himself and made a really good critique on why it's absolutely worth it for some people (huge fans of the first game, first time players).
@@anoleo201194 Graphical improvement is not worth it for people that played it already especially for $70.
@@spendsshanks6050 You don't get to decide that for anyone. Just say it's not worth it to you homie.
They changed Ellie's face to fit her look in part 2. Kinda hate that.
This version of the game is obviously made for hardcore gamers and for people who are new to the series. Especially for those that are coming from the show when it releases.
Thank you for how hard you worked putting together this great and professional review.
Adding the ability to prone would require an overhaul of every single level in the game. The original games level design was just NOT designed for it. Dodging however, should have been implemented. Also you can change the settings for the bow to be like how it was before. The entire gameplay can be adjusted in the accessibility options. Theyâre not just there for people with disability, lol.
this is great news about the bow because that had me a bit worried lol, the sniper part on tlou 2 kills me every time bc i suck at compensating for the drop
So it isnât built from the ground up then lol
But since it's a full remake, surely they'd implement it. Unless ofc it's a lazy cash grab that offers nothing new
"would require an overhaul of every single level in the game" So...a remake? As in, remaking the game from scratch? Unlike what they actually did.
@@msochist8491 remake could also mean remaking the same level from scratch using new assets which they did. People complain when they remake and stray far awar from the original and here people STILL complain when they do a 100 faithful remake. Lol
What would u prefer a graphical modern upgrade and some new features added in like TLOU part 1 or same graphics and same gameplay like gtav? They both came out the same year.
I like how honest u is bruh n how u break down things I think they should let ppl like you review the game before they release it
If only it had factions. That wouldâve been worth it.
The main improvement I was hoping for was the implementation of the gore system from TLOU2, so I'm very happy.
To play something from a garbage sequel in a worthless remake. Cool. Nd fanboys at their best.
@@TheREALHugo4 Most intelligent TLOU2 hater
@@kevinjohnanand I'll take it as a compliment.
@@TheREALHugo4 I don't know why you people spend so much of your life hating on a really good game.
Are you really that unfulfilled
@@kevinjohnanand "Really good game" Keep lying to yourself. Graphical tech doesn't make the game, the narrative does and i've played plenty of stories in games to know that i knew WAY better stories than tlou2.
But unfulfilled? No, like i said, i played way better games.
And if there is one of the many things that i don't regret is to buy this tlou2 game because it makes players so miserable and we don't need a narrative that disrespects the fanbase (like it was the case in 2020).
Guess ND's last good game will always be Uncharted 4.
Did they improve or slightly change controls for better gameplay
What an excellent video. You have become my top gaming critic after this.
Ultimately I think it all comes down to is the game worth $70 to you. For some people it will be and for some it wonât be. And I think theyâre both fair opinions to have
You can have your own opinion on whether itâs worth the 70 bucks or not. But the fact is that this is a 2013 game with a shiny new look and a few extra featuresâŠ
@@cocob0l0 and we all still have the choice to buy it or not.
@@cocob0l0 so donât buy it then. Anyone who buys it obviously is comfortable paying $70 for it. You donât need to go out of your way convincing other people to not buy it. People can spend their money on whatever they want
@@Rob_M_8 You must have a hard time reading. I never once told anyone not to buy it. Iâm just describing the game for what it is. A remaster of a 2013 game being sold at full price. If you think thatâs acceptable for companies to sell then ok.
@@h.i.mcdunnough9421 ^
23:09 the quick turn around was in the original game from like PS3 tho. I remember it being a tutorial part when the fireflies blow up the truck at the very beginning of the game and it definitely was in the remastered version(PS4) because I just went thru a bit of a few days ago.
There's a wave of people calling people broke for saying $70 is to much... but there's a difference between not being worth $70 and not having enough for $70 this is definitely not worth $70 if you've already played both version's. People shill for these companies way to much
I guess my only issues is the characters look way to old, but ultimately the small details look amazing and you can tell they put a lot into it
Yeah well Joel is supposed to be at least in his early 50s. It was 20 years AFTER the outbreak which he already had a 13-14 year old daughter. Unless he had her when he was 15, he could have been 34 on the outbreak day which would mean he was 20 when she was born. That would still make him like 54.
If halo 2 anniversary, or (to a lesser extent) mass effect 1 legendary edition, are remasters then this is too.
Its a very good remaster, but remakes are new games that replicate the story or style of the original. A remaster is a visual overhaul, maybe with some gameplay changes, that's that's built on the foundations of the original.
"It almost wasn't the same game" - in reference to the Mafia game.
That in turn makes it a reimagining and decidedly not a remake.
Resident Evil on GameCube is a Remake. Resident Evil on PS3/4/PC/360/X1 is a remaster. Resident Evil 2/3 are reimaginings. As per Capcom's own definition.
People need to stop assuming remake mean reimagining. When people ask for a remake, Resident Evil and TLOU are what they are asking for. It's just a shame that companies like to shit out RE2/3 and FF7 and call them the same.
@@macdaddymario the GameCube one adds more shit I heard.
@@macdaddymario You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about and clearly didn't even play the GC version of RE which added new cutscenes, new areas as well as several new game modes unlike TLOU Part I. So no, this shit ain't even a f-king remake even more so, it's not even on the same level as RE.
I agree with you a lot. This is one of my favorite games, and it looks phenomenal here on PS5. But I was extremely disappointed to find out that the gameplay was practically untouched, as it has aged (not as bad as others, but given this is a remake and not just a remaster it's disappointing this wasn't improved much). And to be honest, I wouldn't care if it were just visuals if it were at a lower price tag. But with a $70 asking price, it's absurd that the gameplay isn't modernized. Especially considering the PS4 remaster included the DLC as well, so this is a package with less content going for the price of a brand new AAA experience. It's absurd, and I hope it's not a sign of things to come with all the poor anti-consumer decisions Sony's been making lately. I was really on the fence about getting this, but given I've sunk 200 hours in the original and this is basically just visuals I'm definitely waiting for a sale if I get it at all.
Yep, I can definitely understand that. It's the same acting and such. Even though the game is fairly new to me (I'd recommend finding my own comment which will explain why, hopefully it's there in the comments, if not then I'd be happy to explain in the reply thread), but for me it's a bit more new. What I will say though just to give you some context, I'm a blind person and this is one of the few games I can play without help. Yes, that's how ridiculous this game is. They made it playable by the totally blind from start to finish and this includes Left Behind. So this is why I dropped the full asking price, as it's a first for me. I won't go into full detail in the repl thread unless you'd like some more info, ther's some that I've commented on already but I don't know if it's there, so please let me know.
"All the poor anti-consumer decisions Sony has been making lately" I haven't been keeping up on anything lately so could you elaborate on that? If you ask me Sony has been making that kind of decision since the Ps4 came out. Microsoft dropped the ball hard at the launch of both last gen consoles, and in my opinion Sony stopped trying because they didn't need to anymore. Stark difference between Ps3 era Sony and Ps4 era Sony, the former they were doing everything they could to beat Microsoft and were constantly giving out store credit and birthday gifts to long term customers. The latter, they didn't need to go to that effort anymore so they stopped.
With Microsoft acknowledging they screwed up last gen and making massive strides to do better going forward, I was really hoping the competition would get Sony to start being more consumer friendly like in the Ps3 days again.
So ya I'd love to hear what dumb shit they are pulling now.
Ain't no way I'm dropping $70 for a $60 8 year old game, with less features. I'll catch it on a Steam Sale for $30.
I really appreciate the depth of this review. How articulate you are, your attention to detail and youâre clear and concise method of communication. I have subscribed and will look for further contact in the future. Thank you sir for your time
I think it's interesting that there's a case being made that this was made for people who watch the live action series and get curious to play the source material. But it seems like quite a jump to watch a tv series and then go buy a ps5 to experience this game at its best. Especially given the stock issues.
After The Queen's Gambit was released on Netflix, sales for chess boards and pieces were high and I have seen people who loved the guitar sections in the sequel that they bought a guitar so it's not unexpected to assume this, even with the stock issues.
Iâve beaten it 50 times on the PS4. My favorite game of all time but no way am I buying it again.
Tbh if they didnât make the doctor look like the dude from TLOU2 I wouldnât have cared. TLOU2 was the worst game Iâve ever played considering what it could have been. And then the fact that a character that had LITERALLY 10 seconds of screen time in TLOU1 was a weak ass connection anyway. And no Abby is great to me.
Great video! Do you think you'll ever do a critique/video of Halo Infinite?
If you own a ps5, wait for a price drop!
Yeah it looks nicer in the graphics, animations (especially the gore from part 2 is a nice touch up) and other stuff like improved workbench and accessibility options. But overall it's the same game from 2013 with no multiplayer, same gameplay same level design,and they want to charge $70?
It's just one of those things that isn't necessary. Yes, the added accessibility stuff is awesome, but as a whole it has no reason to exist beside a cash grab. Even if I personally didn't enjoy the game, technically it was practically flawless. It's kind of shameless.
Yeah but every game is a cash grab
Itâs made only for folks like me who havenât played longer than 20 min of the first one. But. Thatâs a rarity. I guess there are super fans out there but $70. Idk
@@jaysgameplays4261 if you're only qualification for a game being a cashgrab is that it costs money I think you need to reconsider your definition of cashgrab
Well, with TLOU2 it was painfully clear that Neil Druckman IS shameless: he got rid of the real talent at Naughty Dog so HE could get all the credit for the new game. The guy lacks the talent to come up with a new game, so a crash grab like this is the only thing he can come up with.
@@ermwhatdaheck When studio is making a game they want to make money on it so they can make more games.
As a person whoâs played and bought the other 2 im still buying it because this world means alot to me but thats just me personally
Implementing the gameplay mechanics of Part II into Part I would have meant they would have have to remake the environments. Part IIâs mechanics were built around that games environments. Tall grass, cars and other objects to climb under etc.
If this was indeed a remake, Naughty Dog would have remade the world to fit the new mechanics. They didnât.