Testing LCBs (Lithium Ceramic Batteries) || The Future of Battery Technology?

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    In this video we will have a closer look at solid state lithium batteries, in particular LCBs (lithium ceramic batteries). We will determine their volumetric and gravimetric energy density and compare them to Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries. At the end we will conduct a couple of mechanical and electrical stress tests in order to demonstrate the big strength of this battery type, its safety.
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  • @nicolocatanese3477
    @nicolocatanese3477 Před 5 lety +1320

    They removed my favorite feature of li po batteries the explosion

  • @voltlog
    @voltlog Před 5 lety +780

    wow the safety aspect on that lcb battery is excellent, cutting a battery while it's running? you wouldn't dream doing this with another type of battery.

    • @sfsaviation
      @sfsaviation Před 5 lety +12

      VoltLog imagine a lithium battery

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 Před 5 lety +51

      @@sfsaviation those are all lithium batteries. They are just different types, like lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

    • @Kyle17206
      @Kyle17206 Před 5 lety +21

      I think with more research to improve the technology that this will end up being the next generation of batteries. They are much safer than the batteries we have today. Especially with the rise of electric vehicles, I think this technology has great potential if it had some more research for improvement.

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 Před 5 lety +11

      I would cut a salt water battery in half and drink any that spills 😋

    • @3DRiley_
      @3DRiley_ Před 5 lety +11

      @@Kyle17206 Someone correct me if I'm wrong but commercial electric road vehicles use othe types of rechargeable batteries because Li ones are a fire hazard and safety concern.
      Sure Li anything ones are used in forklifts etc but just imagine having one of these in your car, even a slight crash can cause a really bad and big metal fire
      Edit: I was a idiot of course road vehicles use Li batteries.

  • @Skaytacium
    @Skaytacium Před 4 lety +439

    something : exists
    Scott : *_H I G H L I G H T_*

    • @lukmly013
      @lukmly013 Před 4 lety +25

      At school: Highlight the important text
      2 minutes later: Green paper

  • @KickAss5671
    @KickAss5671 Před 2 lety +6

    This is incredible! I can't believe this technology is +3yrs old now. Thank you for your work, I learn so much with you.

  • @domino52o26
    @domino52o26 Před 5 lety +227

    This technology is several years old now but it never gets old seeing these types of cells getting cut while continuing to power Leds and not going thermonuclear.

    • @swedneck
      @swedneck Před 5 lety +14

      Martin Bennett it still helps that they don't have fluids or semifluids that can explode everywhere.

    • @Evildandalo
      @Evildandalo Před 5 lety +11

      This technology makes me fear for the bullet resistant lithium batteries in whatever terminators Elon Musk cooks up by 2050 lol

    • @the44thcosmic_galaxy25
      @the44thcosmic_galaxy25 Před 5 lety +1

      How did I not know about this? 🤤

    • @domino52o26
      @domino52o26 Před 5 lety +4

      @@the44thcosmic_galaxy25
      Some people watch a lot, probably too many, documentaries, which was where i learned about it a couple years ago, and it was already a several year old doc.

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 Před 5 lety

      Look up salt water batterys....you can drink the fluid out of it while its running a light.

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 Před 5 lety +294

    More smoke than a typical BigClive video. Excellent !.

    • @beedslolkuntus2070
      @beedslolkuntus2070 Před 5 lety +1

      mwalsher IKR 🙃🙃🙁🙁👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Krisztian5HUN
      @Krisztian5HUN Před 5 lety +11

      go watch some diodegonewild for even more salt!

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 Před 5 lety +13

      3 smokiest electronic youtubers
      1.diodegonewild
      2.electroboom
      3bigclive
      SPECIAL:greatscoot

    • @lowercase_
      @lowercase_ Před 5 lety +4

      Did GreatScott mentioned that he didn't like BigClive's video format? I know this has nothing to do with the comment but since you mentioned clive here in scott's comment section.

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 Před 5 lety

      @@lowercase_ yeah. I know but sometimes he create a lot of smoke almost in all battres that he made. And also i include him becouse it looks dramatic.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel Před 5 lety +142

    Very nice. Looks like a safe alternative to LiPo batteries.
    Let's hope they will become more powerful !

    • @quarksamurai6101
      @quarksamurai6101 Před 5 lety +1

      epSos.de i agree

    • @johnolson2216
      @johnolson2216 Před 5 lety +2

      Just make em fatter???

    • @cantkeepitin
      @cantkeepitin Před 5 lety +3

      LIPO is giving you much more current, so it is no direct replacement.

    • @tonyhawk6913
      @tonyhawk6913 Před 5 lety +4

      I think the fact that they are safe is that they lack the power capacity of the LiPo

    • @nathanmead140
      @nathanmead140 Před 5 lety +1

      But without getting dangerous

  • @rafvanrompaey3791
    @rafvanrompaey3791 Před 5 lety +407

    Its "leviosa" not "ceramic"

  • @Lagggerengineering
    @Lagggerengineering Před 5 lety +543

    6:15 Why did you not recharge it? See how much capacity remains, see if and how it was damaged and so on!
    Do not pass this opportunity on a new technology, it might prove very long lasting unlike the others!

    • @adymode
      @adymode Před 5 lety +19

      lion and lipo batteries are commonly shipped completely discharged and sometimes advised to be stored in that state to preserve lifetime. Ive seen some demos of shorting them flat (no protection) and recharged with no noticeable problem.
      edit - correction: some old manufacturers advice to store Li-ons nominally flat (0% SOC), not actually discharged. The following posts establish Ideal SOC for storage is about 40%. The general point Im supporting, including a link, is that very drained Li-on batteries may be completely recoverable, especially if not left for long in that state.

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering Před 5 lety +29

      Yes, I know. We all know that happens, but I am asking about these new ceramic batteries. How do they hold up with that?

    • @adymode
      @adymode Před 5 lety +2

      More people think it is a big problem - thats why GreatScott disguarded them.

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering Před 5 lety +23

      @@adymode I know. I work with batteries as a hobbyist. I still have some very old fully charged cells laying around, fully charged and they have little to degrading in capacity. The problem lies in recharging.
      When you recharge or discharge a battery is the time where it is under the most stress and thus slowly degrades.
      This might be completely mitigated when we use solid electrolyte batteries. But we won't know unless somebody tests it!
      We need to know if we are to power the mobile world with battery power. Phones, cars, heaters, you name it. All are very susceptible to combustion if under extreme stress. This could be solved by a solid electrolyte battery.
      When batteries like this were announced I was extremely sceptical. I didn't believe that to be possible. Frankly the electrolyte material is different than from what I have been told, but I digress.
      You can't even imagine my excitement for the new technology. Devices will finally be able to have safe batteries, I am not talking about just the Galaxy Note 7 fiasco, but many more devices that are supposed to last a long time and be reliable.

    • @tehserenity
      @tehserenity Před 5 lety +15

      wtf? li-ion normally stored with 60..70% charged.

  • @Afrotechmods
    @Afrotechmods Před 5 lety +361

    New microphone? It sounds good

  • @rahimshah4699
    @rahimshah4699 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey man! Love your stuff and calculation. Thank you being here for help others. Your work is just excellent specially your calculations before work.

  • @Ryukachoo
    @Ryukachoo Před 5 lety +47

    Damn, I knew these things were safe, but even the gnarliest stuff doesn't even phase them

  • @bruperina
    @bruperina Před 5 lety +202

    Your accent is getting better each video. Commend you for the effort and persistence.

  • @scuidthesquid
    @scuidthesquid Před 4 lety +68

    drinking game: take a shot everytime he says rather or crude

  • @soundguydon
    @soundguydon Před 5 lety +1

    As always, your videos are informative and interesting - keep up the good work :-)

  • @danielf950
    @danielf950 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the tests. Great fun!

  • @Alex-sc6yy
    @Alex-sc6yy Před 5 lety +1607

    It's not ceramic it's ceramic

  • @deepakjoshi6242
    @deepakjoshi6242 Před 5 lety +11

    Awesome brother...😍
    Keep showing us the new technology... Please...

  • @JimEdmiston
    @JimEdmiston Před 4 lety

    Gotta get those lithium keramic cells!
    Awesome video, always entertained by your pronunciation. Thank you for showing us this new technology!

  • @that1foxxo
    @that1foxxo Před 5 lety

    This is amazing. Awesome technology. Can't wait for further improvements to these.

  • @SustainableGal
    @SustainableGal Před 5 lety +60

    "K'eramic"

  • @Stijn081
    @Stijn081 Před 5 lety +142

    Really impressive. I hope they can raise the energy density on these, this would definitely make electric cars a whole lot safer. Another argument against the EV naysayers.

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle Před 5 lety +18

      Thing about EV naysayers is that they argue that gasoline is safer... the same fluid that is volatile and can explode if your gas tank leaks after a crash. It also burns without external assistance like diesel would. A battery, on the other hand, can be designed to spit fire out in a controlled manner similar to hydrogen and natural gas. And once the energy is burned out (rather rapidly, I might add) it’s inert. Gas can pool around first (like underneath you) before catching on fire without warning.

    • @hfarthingt
      @hfarthingt Před 5 lety

      Could we not use his same calculations as seen in the video and perform a scale multiplier?
      There would still be significant heat when punctured at the sizes you would need for EV capacitance requirements. We need more data here. Think thermal camera and mechanical trauma device that applies measurable force units.

    • @Stijn081
      @Stijn081 Před 5 lety +5

      It'll certainly generate some heat, but it won't be the explosive inferno you get when you puncture a LiPo battery.

    • @JesseKreis
      @JesseKreis Před 5 lety +11

      @@BrokenLifeCycle Couple things here.
      Gasoline is not an explosive. It only explodes when turned into a gas "vapor" (this can only happen with compression or by heating it in a small confined space).
      If your fuel tank leaks, the gas pours out and is completely free of any compression and will simply burn rapidly. In order for a fuel tank to explode it would need to be almost empty, heated for a long time, and then you'd need to somehow get a spark inside without releasing all the compression and gasoline vapor. You could do this by jamming a sharp file into the tank and the metal scraping would cause a spark, but let's be real, the chance of this happening in a crash is extremely low because there isn't any chance that the fuel can be heated enough to cause the gas to vaporize. Especially since the car is using fuel as it drives which doesn't allow compression in the first place.
      All you get with an ignited fuel tank leak is usually a small fireball and a rapidly burning car. (This is very serious if the fuel tank leak is large enough to cause a huge pool of gas before it ignites. So don't think I'm neglecting the actual dangers).
      Currently the batteries they use in EVs are actually explosive, in the way that compressed gas is explosive.
      You should learn something about gas powered cars before dissing them.

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle Před 5 lety +2

      Gasoline is a volatile liquid that can soak onto something before catching fire like lamp fuel on a candle wick. And when I said gasoline exploding, I meant when there's a concentrated mix of fuel vapours (due to its volatility) in the air catching on fire (from say, a stray spark from a broken wire) while in a mostly enclosed space (for example, the trunk of a car or the passenger space). Technically, this is unlikely to be a stoichiometric mix, so it's arguably more a deflagration than an explosion (bad wording on my part) but the fact remains. It's a fireball that can happen without warning.
      Hydrogen and natural gas are also explosive in a sense. However, those can be addressed by relief valves venting and burning in a controlled manner in the event of an accident. Plus, the gasses rise up and diffuse quickly rather than pool in something and allow the vapours to concentrated in a sufficient amount to combust. Batteries exploding can be addressed similarly with controlled venting. With newer battery technologies (like the one in the video), we might not even see this problem.
      On the topic of me not knowing enough about ICE cars... I've seen enough F1 cars pre-methanol turning into flaming wrecks to be concerned about it in my vehicle. While the risk is much lower because my vehicle won't be going over a hundred MPH and has its fuel tank in a much safer location, the risk still remains niggling in the back of my mind. After all, I don't think my truck has an automatic shutoff to the fuel line running beneath my feet in the event of a crash.

  • @TheMcSebi
    @TheMcSebi Před 5 lety +1

    Great video! I didn't yet knew these types of batteries existed. I'd also be interested in how warm they got especially in the over-discharge scenario. I usually do that using a cheap close range infrared thermometer.

  • @danskustomairbrushin
    @danskustomairbrushin Před 5 lety

    Very interesting and informative. In fact probably the first I've seen in a really long time that I really found worth while and really informative and not like marketing wank. I never really comment on anything on CZcams but I just wanted to take a moment and tell you that your videos are awesome. Keep it up!

  • @jerry1378
    @jerry1378 Před 5 lety +115

    @5:36 i always replicate your tests at work so no worries :)

  • @deadbird99
    @deadbird99 Před 5 lety +213

    oooooh I now desperately want these ^^ One question though: once overcharged/overdischarged/short circuited/cut/punctured, do they charge again?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Před 5 lety +96

      Well, when cut/punctured I would definitely not recharge them. WIth all the other scenarios, there is a chance that the battery could still work. But I would replace it (my opinion).

    • @deadbird99
      @deadbird99 Před 5 lety +85

      Can you safely do the test? At least for science?

    • @R3MIXMODZ
      @R3MIXMODZ Před 5 lety +13

      Bro why does it say edited 3 days ago if this video just came out!?!?

    • @jayzo
      @jayzo Před 5 lety +32

      R3MIX MODZ Patreon early access I presume.

    • @zygfrydmierzwinski6041
      @zygfrydmierzwinski6041 Před 5 lety +5

      He's time traveller :D

  • @chaschuky999
    @chaschuky999 Před 5 lety

    Incredible video these will certainly be extremely important in the future

  • @DKLVE
    @DKLVE Před 5 lety +2

    Nice work man !!

  • @AtariKafa
    @AtariKafa Před 5 lety +17

    Impressive.....

  • @pieceofpotato7883
    @pieceofpotato7883 Před 5 lety +6

    they're here already?!!! THAT'S INSANNEEEEE

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn Před 5 lety

    very interesting , I've never had the chance to play with LCB's ... love the idea of using them to power low power wearables.

  • @marcofe82
    @marcofe82 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much for this video! I learned something more! Continue in this way!

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 5 lety +40

    That's actually really interesting!!!

    • @18lucky17
      @18lucky17 Před 5 lety +2

      bobsagget823 unlike your shit channel

  • @matthewnoblejordan3555
    @matthewnoblejordan3555 Před 5 lety +5

    Excited about this ceramic battery technology. I use lipo packs in my model aircraft, cars and race drones. I'm sure if this technology is developed further we could have lighter safer battery packs for the hobby. I hope it becomes the replacement for Lipo, which are very picky as far as maintenance dangerous.

  • @Simonofcalifornia
    @Simonofcalifornia Před 5 lety

    Best informative video in months. Thank you.

  • @insertx2k_dev
    @insertx2k_dev Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this experiment ,I really appreciate your work!

  • @stephennganga7499
    @stephennganga7499 Před 5 lety +3

    oooh, i can see a whole bunch ov interesting tech coming along if this battery works out

  • @nikurasu_tan
    @nikurasu_tan Před 5 lety +74

    Megumin is disappointed by the ceramic batteries.
    There ist no EXEPLOSION

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Před 5 lety +1

      LOL

    • @joj.
      @joj. Před 4 lety +6

      Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well...

    • @YTshashmeera
      @YTshashmeera Před 3 lety

      Tell her to go watch electroboom
      Mehdi got some booms in his videos lol

  • @rohitsinghchauhan4818
    @rohitsinghchauhan4818 Před 4 lety

    Never seen something like this one before. Looks Amazing at a glance.

  • @morseman21
    @morseman21 Před 5 lety

    Very interesting video, good way to showcase new battery tech!

  • @tameralsebaee1433
    @tameralsebaee1433 Před 5 lety +3

    Batteries were always an interesting subject
    Good video

  • @trulyinfamous
    @trulyinfamous Před 5 lety +40

    I hate being so young, but at the same time, all of this revolutionary technology is fuckin' awesome!

    • @FascistTrex
      @FascistTrex Před 5 lety +5

      This battery is almost a decade old.

    • @goofyfoot2001
      @goofyfoot2001 Před 5 lety +1

      it's a watch battery

    • @DylanDaPickle
      @DylanDaPickle Před 5 lety +2

      You’re never too young to learn

    • @davidlink8454
      @davidlink8454 Před 5 lety +2

      Truly Infamous hydrogen batteries hold a charge better and are the future. Ceramic just makes it lighter. In my opinion ceramic will be passed up by science

    • @jackrodgersjr
      @jackrodgersjr Před 5 lety +2

      I remember grads complaining that their degrees in tubes was thrown in the trash can by transistors. I felt like a real genius taking all the tubes out of the tv to the drugstore and testing each until I found the bad one. Now Apple wants to swap out my entire motherboard...

  • @juanmarichal263
    @juanmarichal263 Před 4 lety

    Awesome, this Batts are incredible, thanks for the video and links.

  • @joelstolarski2244
    @joelstolarski2244 Před 5 lety

    That's a very nice review of new lithium battery. Fascinating.

  • @RizLazey
    @RizLazey Před 5 lety +113

    2:43 wait what? Continuous discharge up to 650 Amps...
    You could weld with that lmao

  • @dmkays
    @dmkays Před 5 lety +5

    Batteries are so precious to me that it was painful to watch you destroying them. However, I am impressed with the safety of these new batteries and can think of several applications where their safety would be a huge benefit.

  • @Malaphor
    @Malaphor Před 5 lety

    I love your hand writing!

  • @alexbarnett8541
    @alexbarnett8541 Před 5 lety

    Nice I can't wait to get my hands on some.

  • @filipeoliveira4767
    @filipeoliveira4767 Před 5 lety +64

    So they are very safe but they don't fix the current problem of energy density. I can sure imagine them being used on wearables in the future, but that's about it. When it comes to cars and bigger power applications I don't think these will be the way to go

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Před 5 lety +34

      But think about when there is a car crash. LCBs would be way safer to use.

    • @Dinkleberg96
      @Dinkleberg96 Před 5 lety +15

      But they will be a good choice for smartphones in future, due to the safety reasons

    • @simplylinn
      @simplylinn Před 5 lety +15

      Assuming they can be made about as cheap as conventional batteries and that their power output/density can be comparable to regular LiPo/LiIon batteries, they could very much make their way into electrical cars, as not catching fire and/or releasing dangerous fumes is a rather good property to have in the event of a car crash or similar. Of course, that would imply that no new battery technology comes along which outperforms both these new solid state Li batteries and conventional LiPo/LiIon batteries on performance and power density

    • @filipeoliveira4767
      @filipeoliveira4767 Před 5 lety +3

      @@greatscottlab I agree with you on that. But cars won't sell with lower ranges. I hope these batteries evolve, that would be an amazing improvement to electric car safety. Small ranges and high charging times are two of the things that "stop" electric Cars. I really hope that in time these batteries get a better energy density, but it just isn't easy

    • @filipeoliveira4767
      @filipeoliveira4767 Před 5 lety +2

      @@simplylinn well for that to happen LCBs have to reach the same energy density as the currently used batteries, in which case I would agree with you. Once again, I really hope it happens, I just don't think that it'll happen soon

  • @rovicgabor2485
    @rovicgabor2485 Před 5 lety +132

    *is this what they're going to use in flexible phones*

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 Před 5 lety +1

      *???????*

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Basement-Science well,some companies like samsung has idea of flexible phones.

    • @alex-w8p2e
      @alex-w8p2e Před 5 lety +12

      They would probably break easily if you bend them alot.

    • @RenKnight347
      @RenKnight347 Před 5 lety +2

      In drones....flexible attack drones!

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 Před 5 lety +5

      @@RenKnight347 nah. Its still better in flexible cars if tesla makes it many people will buy it.

  • @Hexauslion
    @Hexauslion Před 4 lety

    been waiting for this. i need to make these

  • @brandonbrand2338
    @brandonbrand2338 Před 5 lety

    Good experiment there Scotty... Thanks.

  • @PawanSingh-cq5jl
    @PawanSingh-cq5jl Před 4 lety +153

    ⚠️don't try this
    at home⚠️
    Kk I do it outside

  • @jeremyanderson6395
    @jeremyanderson6395 Před 5 lety +6

    Seeing as the density is roughly the same, my only question is how much of a difference is the cost?

  • @davidurdahl6656
    @davidurdahl6656 Před 5 lety

    Saw these in their infancy last year. It's definitely a step in the right direction.

  • @tonyortega659
    @tonyortega659 Před 5 lety

    Gracias por la traducción. Disfruto mucho tus videos

  • @ecka333
    @ecka333 Před 5 lety +47

    Nothing was mentioned about battery lifetime: how many times it can be recharged until capacity drops to the certain level? Maybe ceramic lithium battery has lifetime like normal lithium battery?

    • @NiHaoMike64
      @NiHaoMike64 Před 5 lety +9

      A good next project would be an Arduino-based device to cycle batteries while tracking capacity every time.

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay Před 5 lety +2

      This was a basic safety test of the class of battery. Hard stats would probably come later using actual model numbers and corp. names.

    • @chengpolun
      @chengpolun Před 5 lety

      It can be cycled for 2000times at 2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge rate, capacity drop (recovery) can be over 80% of original.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram Před 5 lety +1

      @@chengpolun "2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge" What is that supposed to mean? Do you mean 2c charge/2C discharge? The 2 hrs statement means nothing. Charging a 100 mAh battery for 2 hrs (at what current?) is completely different than charging a 1500 mAh battery for 2 hrs (again, at what current?). You need something other than time to classify charge/discharge rate.

    • @Wok_Agenda
      @Wok_Agenda Před 5 lety

      @@NiHaoMike64 Chinese r/c chargers do that

  • @xannax2050
    @xannax2050 Před 5 lety +12

    The future of wearable technology is back, and now better than ever with these batteries

  • @user-zo9dc1lu3q
    @user-zo9dc1lu3q Před 5 lety

    That's AMAZING !!!
    :-D
    The furlture or rechargable battery is here !

  • @AnubhabKundu
    @AnubhabKundu Před 5 lety

    Thank you for teaching me how to make a li ion battery pack in a previous video.

  • @fullzys
    @fullzys Před 5 lety +24

    Are you still studying your masters? Btw keep up your awesome videos I haven't missed one since I started watching around 2.5 years ago

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Před 5 lety +25

      Thanks for watching. No, I am done with my Master.

  • @sudipmaity8390
    @sudipmaity8390 Před 5 lety +17

    lcb are so thin wont it be possible to stack 10-20 of them together and get the result of lipo.

    • @thegreatoutagesign9204
      @thegreatoutagesign9204 Před 5 lety +17

      That's exactly what the plcb is lol

    • @williamnixon4056
      @williamnixon4056 Před 5 lety +4

      I think cost effectiveness is going to be the determining factor with these types of batteries.

    • @neptunez3495
      @neptunez3495 Před 3 lety +2

      you know the battery is thin if its literally thinner than the wire

  • @MikelGarin999
    @MikelGarin999 Před 5 lety

    Tanks a lot! I discovered this technology due to your video!

  • @josephcobb6228
    @josephcobb6228 Před 5 lety

    wow. incredible batteries. can't wait see how these develope in the future

  • @jand2315
    @jand2315 Před 5 lety +17

    What about the number of charge cycles in comparison?

    • @technocody9296
      @technocody9296 Před 4 lety +2

      That's going to take a while to get an answer lol

    • @ksam2000
      @ksam2000 Před 4 lety +5

      It has been a year. Still no answer lol

  • @scienceteam9254
    @scienceteam9254 Před 5 lety +6

    wow. i thought this was gonna be thunderf00t fodder. this is amazing

    • @silenthill4
      @silenthill4 Před 4 lety

      Thunderfoot is not fodder, pleb

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 Před 3 lety

      you think this is a real battery? you don't know that for sure.

  • @joetke
    @joetke Před 5 lety

    Awesome script! Great video!

  • @losmilitantesdemilei5259

    Great info!
    Thanks.

  • @bobderbraumeister6919
    @bobderbraumeister6919 Před 5 lety +7

    The flcb could get integrated in the bracelets of the smart watches

  • @real4487
    @real4487 Před 5 lety +5

    3:16 R.I.P. FLCB

  • @Ruzarik
    @Ruzarik Před 5 lety

    Subbed because of the great intro and intro music!

  • @armor1z
    @armor1z Před 5 lety

    I saw a documentary from nova about all this new battery tech that's being developed and LCB were one of them. Thanks for the video and testing. I can't wait for this tech to get more advanced, although I don't expect that lithium will be used for too much longer before we discover something else that can surpass it.

  • @backdoornutzer4461
    @backdoornutzer4461 Před 5 lety +22

    I wonder, can this new battery technology be recycled well too?

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před 5 lety

      It's over a decade old now, so not exactly new. As for being recycled.. Sort of? It's still lithium and a ceramic dust, the only problem is these batteries are rather weak compared to the common lithium batteries.

  • @dylanrens2000
    @dylanrens2000 Před 5 lety +71

    I just saw a video of a channel called "Bright" and they use some of your footage from this video, are you aware of this? I'm saying this here becouse i saw a video of you about another company using your footage without even mentioning you and you weren't happy about that either.
    The footage is used in their latest video called "hierdoor is je telefoon straks pas na een week leeg" at 1:25. They never mention you in the video itself or in the video description.
    Maybe you have an agreement with them but if not then I hope this helped.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony Před 5 lety +3

      Link?

    • @dylanrens2000
      @dylanrens2000 Před 5 lety +3

      @@everythingpony czcams.com/video/Rdd1QqClVnY/video.html

    • @alext8406
      @alext8406 Před 5 lety +11

      they have added a link to his channel in the description. Also when his video is showing, a link to it appears in the top right hand corner (if you press the i button).

  • @mekkler
    @mekkler Před 4 lety

    I like the way you write q's, I'm going to do that from now on.

  • @TechsScience
    @TechsScience Před 5 lety

    Informative!

  • @cedricproper5256
    @cedricproper5256 Před 5 lety +3

    I like that Flexible Battery!
    Where can I buy one?

  • @misteragb7558
    @misteragb7558 Před 5 lety +30

    I assume this technology will be bought by a really big company like samsung soon.

    • @lucasc5622
      @lucasc5622 Před 5 lety +3

      It would be cool, but then we have to have bendy everything elses

    • @celeb18
      @celeb18 Před 5 lety +1

      They go in to graphane techlogogy. Samsung is not big in manufacture lithium batterys. LG Chem is biggest

    • @chengpolun
      @chengpolun Před 5 lety

      @@Basement-Science it is expensive so far but not extremely expensive.lol, in fact the cell is already in roll to roll production mode and will scale up soon, at the time cost will be acceptable in EV application.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram Před 5 lety

      @@celeb18 "Samsung is not big [in the] manufacturing of lithium batteries." Are you crazy?!? That's like saying, "Pepsi isn't big in the manufacturing of cola, Coke is the biggest." One has nothing to do with the other. Samsung is a HUGE lithium battery manufacturer, just as Pepsi is a HUGE cola manufacturer. (I'm basing that all on the assumption that you know what you're talking about, and LG is a bigger manufacturer... Which doesn't matter anyways.)

  • @christopping5876
    @christopping5876 Před 5 lety

    Excellent, thank you!

  • @emmettcarr2988
    @emmettcarr2988 Před 5 lety

    very cool concept

  • @petzi8695
    @petzi8695 Před 5 lety +56

    make a vacuum tube amplifier

  • @Samuel-km5yf
    @Samuel-km5yf Před 5 lety +7

    Great Scott - Overdischarge of Li-Ion is not dangerous at all. It’s recharging after overdischarge that is potentially dangerous.

    • @newmonengineering
      @newmonengineering Před 5 lety

      Is that why there are videos of people catching on fire while trying to vape with a l-ion battery? Over discharge caused by custom coils and under rated batteries?

    • @Samuel-km5yf
      @Samuel-km5yf Před 5 lety +2

      @rogwabbit -- I don't know enough about e-cigarette battery explosions to comment specifically. However, in any application a Li-Ion battery can explode (the technical term is "vent with flame") if it is overcharged, punctured at a high state of charge, exposed to excessively high temperatures, manufactured improperly (poor production control) or have developed internal shorts (dendrites) due to overdischarge and then recharged.
      Note that recharging an overdischarged Li-Ion cell is not guaranteed to fail. Supposedly they can sometimes be brought back -- maybe with noticeable capacity degradation, maybe not. Personally, I don't ever try it because it's not worth the risk.

    • @350606
      @350606 Před 5 lety +5

      That's overcurrent right there, not overdischarge. If you get some cheapo batteries and ask them to give you 10A just like that... They won't like it, to say the least.
      EDIT: I'm referring to the vaping with custom stuff and the batteries exploding.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram Před 5 lety +1

      @@newmonengineering You're confused.

  • @Pandadancypant
    @Pandadancypant Před 5 lety

    These are interesting. Very interesting especially the flexible version.

  • @akeuc5770
    @akeuc5770 Před 5 lety

    Nice one, Dave😁

  • @luigi55125
    @luigi55125 Před 5 lety +8

    Those super flat batteries, but bigger, would be great for electric vehicles, as their batteries are very VERY heavy, and negatively affect their performance.
    Get those things to have more power, and last longer, and it's golden.

    • @oblivion_2852
      @oblivion_2852 Před 5 lety +3

      Shape has no effect on how much it weighs. I'm pretty sure that Teslas use an array of the Lithium Ion (cylinder) cells. Even in the video scott showed that the downside of the safe batteries is they hold less charge for their volume and weight than Lithium Ion therefore making them heavier comparably.

  • @KnowledgePerformance7
    @KnowledgePerformance7 Před 5 lety +53

    The C rating on that hobby battery of 130C is a lie. It's a problem with hobby packs. They all have overstated C ratings

    • @coccoborg
      @coccoborg Před 5 lety

      yup, that's basically short-circuit current

    • @abyssunderground
      @abyssunderground Před 5 lety +7

      Usually they are surge ratings where you can do it for a few seconds only. The lower value if two are listed is typically the continuous current.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Před 5 lety +6

      Might be. Mine say 100c with burst at 200c, which for my 1.5 Ah pack, that would be close (4x motors at 35 Amp each, depending on prop it can go way higher). So I'm only at its continuous rating when putting the power down, I don't know if it could power bigger motors without excessive Vdroop (its fine right now, lets those motors scream!).
      My favorite pack for micros is 70c rated (not sure if its burst or constant), and based on how many 12 amp ESCs I seem to blow up, I'm probably around that mark, so 4x12 Amp = 48 Amp, with a 0.55 Ah battery. My display is showing it only drops 2v on a punch out (from 12.6v fresh charge down to 10.8v at full throttle punch out till I run out of video reception drag racing or hit the 400ft legal altitude limit).

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před 5 lety +1

      typically, high C rated batteries are lower capacity for the price, and if you get a 1Ah at 100C, it has the same current as a 5Ah at 20C.

    • @TehMagilla
      @TehMagilla Před 5 lety +5

      He calls a fast-charge C rating of 5 "a step in the right direction". None of my LiPos have a higher charge rating than that. In fact, my 60c batteries can only be charged at 2c. I'd say that 5c charge at this early stage of the technology is absolutely amazing.

  • @JasonTRogers
    @JasonTRogers Před 5 lety

    Wow 😮 that was fascinating

  • @jason6049
    @jason6049 Před 4 lety

    Loved the subtle "soLid" note

  • @y2jcjy2j7
    @y2jcjy2j7 Před 5 lety +164

    Ceramic => (Seramic) not (Keramic)
    Ahh.heulis heel, lol

    • @burningbanana6213
      @burningbanana6213 Před 5 lety +17

      He's German. We say it like that

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes Před 5 lety +26

      Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the plaster, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h Před 5 lety +7

      @@burningbanana6213 Interesting. Indeed in german it is with K, and the Greek one is with k. Weird, because in many languages it is with C, not just English. Polish, Spanish, Italian, French, all start with C. I checked few other languages, and it is somehow half C, half K, without not that much patterns.

    • @mistergoodman1842
      @mistergoodman1842 Před 5 lety +4

      in Indonesia, we say "ceramic" with "keramik"

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Před 5 lety +4

      No, both are correct technically so either are fine, stop being so anal about it look it up in a dictionary.

  • @thedronehorseman4713
    @thedronehorseman4713 Před 4 lety +3

    How many charge-discharge cycles can these LCB batteries take compared to Lithium Ions?

    • @hercion
      @hercion Před 4 lety

      Same question here. I hope that solid electrolyte batteries have way more cycles ?

    • @thedronehorseman4713
      @thedronehorseman4713 Před 4 lety +1

      hercion I looked up the website, it’s 500 cycles before it drops to 90% capacity.

    • @hercion
      @hercion Před 4 lety

      @@thedronehorseman4713 that's rather good, isn't it?

    • @thedronehorseman4713
      @thedronehorseman4713 Před 4 lety

      @@hercion If the price is good, I still don’t know the price. They didn’t reply my email.

  • @RGCbaseace
    @RGCbaseace Před 5 lety

    Well done vid sir

  • @crddrones3457
    @crddrones3457 Před 3 lety

    It’s amazing !nice job! 👍
    God bless take care stay safe and keep up the good work

  • @GANTZ100pts
    @GANTZ100pts Před 5 lety +36

    Shame we never actually see these batteries in production.
    Odds are they'll just sell the patent to an oil company.

    • @joedirtpig814
      @joedirtpig814 Před 4 lety +2

      That low c rating makes them almost useless

    • @DrScottson
      @DrScottson Před 4 lety +4

      My new smart helmet has them so if we stack theres no chance of a battery explosion with our heads inside it

    • @darvinde
      @darvinde Před 4 lety +1

      @@joedirtpig814 wait no there is so much use for a low C rating

    • @joedirtpig814
      @joedirtpig814 Před 4 lety +1

      @@darvinde you're not wrong i could see them in cellphones in a few years considering how power efficient they're becoming, as of now they leave much to be desired.

    • @darvinde
      @darvinde Před 4 lety

      @@joedirtpig814 Yes you are absolutly right. In the internet it says a smartphone needs 100-500mah, and as you said if you develop smartphones more energy efficient and if you develop the battery to drain more amps it would just be perfect with a safe battery, because no battery today in smartphones is safe. If any battery gets damaged, it catches fire.
      Some other cases would be:
      -Smartwatches
      -Some Microcontroller Projects for education, so it's save to work with a battery for beginner/schools even for intermediate people.
      -Wireless earbuds/headsets
      If you use battery's that you can bend, there are even more use cases.

  • @reallyiffy
    @reallyiffy Před 5 lety +136

    Ceramic is pronounced Sehr- amik like sehr gut

    • @fridzmagnuson2202
      @fridzmagnuson2202 Před 5 lety +5

      @Martin Luther mexican?

    • @willfraser9337
      @willfraser9337 Před 5 lety +1

      səˈræmɪk: www.macmillandictionary.com/us/pronunciation/american/ceramic

    • @R3MIXMODZ
      @R3MIXMODZ Před 5 lety +5

      Bro why does it say edited 3 days ago if this video just came out!?!?

    • @amckinley
      @amckinley Před 5 lety +1

      Rakesh Chavan r/foundthemobileuser
      Also it is r/woooosh with 4 "o"s

    • @jerry1378
      @jerry1378 Před 5 lety +1

      time traveller

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin Před 5 lety

    Great video, much better than dozens of other videos on this topic. The problem with new ceramic batteries it that if you improve them on current output, you would automatically also make the safety worse. Batteries have to fullfill quite many criteria, so there is no single best for all battery, even not in 100 years.

  • @OffGridAussiePrepper
    @OffGridAussiePrepper Před 4 lety +1

    Well done son..... keep up the good work. And i love the channel name...... i remember it coming from Back to the Future.

  • @saikrishna4388
    @saikrishna4388 Před 5 lety +52

    50% percent of comments are those who are correcting ceramic's pronounciation.
    It's pronounced siramic not ceramic xD

    • @Krisztian5HUN
      @Krisztian5HUN Před 5 lety +1

      It's pronounced Uranus not Myanus!!

    • @TanjoGalbi
      @TanjoGalbi Před 5 lety +3

      mwalsher You would be correct to say that if he was speaking in German, however he is speaking in English so it's a soft C sounding like S as in "sound".
      And before you complain that correcting him is rude: most people I have known on the internet who don't have English as their first language are very happy to be corrected so they learn how to pronounce English words correctly.

    • @ZimaBlue420
      @ZimaBlue420 Před 5 lety

      mwalsher KERAMIK.

    • @vityazpp19
      @vityazpp19 Před 5 lety

      Thanos Corp.TM sheramick

    • @madcockney
      @madcockney Před 5 lety

      +Galbi 1000 However there are certain words in English that use a Hard C like a K. Many of those originated in Celtic or Gaelic, another form of Celtic. And note Celtic is pronounced Keltic unless the Scottish football team. So generally you are right but not always. Then we can get onto the American and British pronunciation of words.

  • @NoorquackerInd
    @NoorquackerInd Před 5 lety +14

    "KERAMIC"

    • @Krisztian5HUN
      @Krisztian5HUN Před 5 lety +1

      Mortal CumBat!

    • @0Raik
      @0Raik Před 5 lety +1

      First time I heard that pronunciation, is something like toh-mah-toh vs tomato?

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ Před 5 lety +4

      @@0Raik No, he's saying "Ceramic" the way they do in German "Keramik".
      He also said "Achilles" in a rather unusual way (to an English speaker), which I assume is the German pronunciation.
      I'm sure the only reason people mentioned it, is that his English is ridiculously good...

  • @garyanvil2354
    @garyanvil2354 Před 4 lety

    Very informative...👍

  • @Stiefe300
    @Stiefe300 Před 5 lety

    Thats some really nice tech there