Battery Type Comparison || Lead Acid VS NiMH VS Li-Ion VS LiPo

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    In this VS episode I will compare the gravimetric and volumetric energy density and the price of lead acid, NiMH, Li-Ion and LiPo batteries with one another. I will also talk about how dangerous each battery type can be and what kind of battery you should get for your next project.
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Komentáře • 828

  • @embeddedbastler6406
    @embeddedbastler6406 Před 7 lety +215

    4:38 use neodymium magnets to get these clamps on a single cell? excellent idea, why i never thought this way? thanks for the tip.

    • @macrossactual
      @macrossactual Před 7 lety +15

      Same. that is genius.

    • @andyhoffmann8550
      @andyhoffmann8550 Před 7 lety +5

      The life is so simple, sometimes ;-)

    • @jasonbay13
      @jasonbay13 Před 7 lety +2

      this is probably the most helpful thing i've never thought of. always have trouble with this, just so happens i have a stack of mini neo's right next to me.

    • @justtoaskthequestion1422
      @justtoaskthequestion1422 Před 7 lety +3

      I had it in mind for a long time but I was wondering is it actually safe/recommended to run electricity through a permament magnet? I couldn't find anything about anyone even attempting to do so on the internet so I figured there is some issue I am not aware of (and that is probably too obvious to even mention it), hence noneones uses it this way and was the reason why I couldn't find anything.
      Could someone shed some light?

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman Před 7 lety +5

      I think the magnets have a moderate 0.5-2 ohm resistance which makes them okay for charging small batteries

  • @tomaszatko9562
    @tomaszatko9562 Před rokem +204

    Making use of the czcams.com/users/postUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 reconditioning plan, I just saved 2 auto batteries from being completely junked. The guides were very simple to follow. I wish I would have found this years ago! You may use the guide to recondition any battery type

  • @mongfin01
    @mongfin01 Před 7 lety +3

    fantastic video bro! it got pretty information-heavy in the middle, but your summary at the end was perfect for understanding. keep up the good work!

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 Před 4 lety

    Wow! A perfect quality informational video...the best I've seen out of thousands.

  • @donaldfilbert4832
    @donaldfilbert4832 Před 7 lety

    As usual - excellent information!! Well organized - concise and complete - and totally relevant !! Thanks a ton !!!

  • @TheMrRafaelB
    @TheMrRafaelB Před 7 lety

    As usual, another great video. Thank you for spending your time to provide us all these information

  • @cucumber1389
    @cucumber1389 Před 4 lety

    This was the exact video I needed for assurance on my NiMH battery, thanks a lot

  • @Edu_RJR
    @Edu_RJR Před 7 lety

    this video is great! really puts in perspective many aspects of why you should use different kinds of batteries in different applications.

  • @thiagocamargoalima
    @thiagocamargoalima Před 7 lety

    Awesome video, Scott! Congratulations!

  • @Eicles
    @Eicles Před 7 lety

    Really enjoyed this video. Great comparison!

  • @FlorianEagox
    @FlorianEagox Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks! This is exactly what I was wanting and super helpful.

  • @arefdaneshfar177
    @arefdaneshfar177 Před 3 lety

    Bro, this video was a great review. Thank you for sharing!

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 Před 7 lety +2

    Very informative! a good clear comparison of battery types and the reasons for each. Not every day you get a comparison of tech without "fanboy" hype! thanks!

  • @MrF4eable
    @MrF4eable Před 7 lety

    Thanks bro ! Your videos are always helpful ;)!

  • @dogastus
    @dogastus Před 7 lety

    Very slick video which answers a lot of questions. Many thanks.

  • @NicholasAarons
    @NicholasAarons Před 7 lety

    Fantastic Video Dude. Very Cool. Keep up the great work. Nick.

  • @dj5quar3
    @dj5quar3 Před 7 lety

    I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH!

  • @Makerside
    @Makerside Před 7 lety

    400K subscribers! congratulaions! keep going )

  • @mebibyte9347
    @mebibyte9347 Před měsícem

    For the algorithms in charge, this is evergreen content. The whole channel is an international treasure ❤

  • @vlcekmlcek3393
    @vlcekmlcek3393 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for this nice summary video!

  • @silverst4233
    @silverst4233 Před 3 lety

    you are the best... no one explained it that easy an fast... thank you, and it is true you are great scott! 👍😉

  • @2309phil
    @2309phil Před 7 lety

    A very well prepared and presented video.
    Good work.

  • @DuongTrongHue
    @DuongTrongHue Před 7 lety

    Great video. You always describes in clear way and easy to understand. Try your best. Thanks

  • @wojciechtechtips1602
    @wojciechtechtips1602 Před 7 lety +1

    I love your vids keep up the good work :)

  • @arrowstheorem1881
    @arrowstheorem1881 Před 7 lety

    Very informative! Thanks for your video.

  • @brunokertesz2908
    @brunokertesz2908 Před 7 lety

    Very nice video!!I waited for your opinion of battery types becouse your one of my favourite youtubers.In my opinion i choose the Li-Ion types ,one of my friends brought me a lot of them.Keep up the good work!

  • @nimlhug138
    @nimlhug138 Před 7 lety +13

    While I was watching, my wife noticed that you are left-handed just like me.
    But with a pretty hand-writing tho.

  • @isaacgonzalez9295
    @isaacgonzalez9295 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for making this video it helps alot.

  • @cibimbox9195
    @cibimbox9195 Před 7 lety

    Good video. You could make video about those batteries abilities in cold/hot weather. Power outputs and etc.

  • @AhmadEsmaeel
    @AhmadEsmaeel Před 7 lety

    that was really the information i need to know ... thank you

  • @GoDroneX
    @GoDroneX Před 7 lety

    Well done as usual!

  • @Slava-om1sz
    @Slava-om1sz Před 5 lety +7

    That was great, but I was hoping to so find out more differences in how these technologies behave. For example discharging while not in use, capactity decrease over time and after X amount of recharge cycles, etc.

    • @wahidasad4853
      @wahidasad4853 Před 2 lety

      Well for that i may not be so right but once i charged my diy lithium ion battery fan and I don't know how i lost it .but after one and a half month i found it and it gave me pretty much the same backup it usually does . Don't know it might have lost a little bit of energy.🤔

  • @IncroyablesExperiences
    @IncroyablesExperiences Před 7 lety +36

    If the test would have been conducted with a 1C discharge rate, the LiPo would have been the incontestable winner because of it's low internal resistance. What more, after years, the internal resistance of lithium batterie do not increase as much as other technologies.
    For those two reasons, after a while, the winner in each categories (even the price) is the LiPo for a high power device as an eBike :)
    Nice video, usefull informations !

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif Před 7 lety +1

      Incroyables Expériences bad things about lipo: too fragile that even note 7 blows up itself

    • @choupi4719
      @choupi4719 Před 7 lety

      Bon de vous voir ici !

    • @DarkSlayer-xk3fb
      @DarkSlayer-xk3fb Před 6 lety

      Bitelaserkhalif 555 That's because they did not add the proper battery protection circuit

    • @renmaru4485
      @renmaru4485 Před 6 lety +1

      DarkSlayer 1411 no the problem was battery itself

    • @dududu7694
      @dududu7694 Před 6 lety

      I think Note 7 is liion, not lipo.

  • @Hemewl
    @Hemewl Před 7 lety +12

    You might also want to consider operational temperature for charging and discharging. For instance, in an outdoor installation in cold weather a NiMH will probably win at all times.

  • @gg48gg
    @gg48gg Před 5 lety

    very thorough and well presented

  • @erobos111
    @erobos111 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting, couldn't follow your math, however, you explained all very well. Good job!

  • @usmani93
    @usmani93 Před 7 lety

    nice explanation , love it!

  • @MauroRochat
    @MauroRochat Před 7 lety

    Very good video! Congratulations

  • @TheFabimon
    @TheFabimon Před 7 lety

    Great overview!

  • @AlexSantos-db6fm
    @AlexSantos-db6fm Před 5 lety

    Excelent video! Thanks !

  • @KoRtExXx
    @KoRtExXx Před 7 lety

    I love that magnet idea

  • @aymankidwany8119
    @aymankidwany8119 Před 7 lety

    thank you ! thank you ! thank you !, that's very helpful for me.
    good job :D

  • @cmantop
    @cmantop Před 7 lety

    excellent comparison!!!

  • @shlomibarg
    @shlomibarg Před 7 lety

    Very good and helpful , thank you.

  • @Reza-nu9gn
    @Reza-nu9gn Před 7 lety

    Nicely Explained Well Done!

  • @ahmedelectricianofiraq5550

    Great scott yours videos is great

  • @bhaskarpaul3432
    @bhaskarpaul3432 Před 4 lety

    You are making awesome contents.

  • @FireSwordl
    @FireSwordl Před 7 lety

    Wonderful video! Next time include supercapacitors too, although they are expensive and have low energy density :)

  • @caesium2339
    @caesium2339 Před 3 lety

    when you were measuring the lithium-ion cells and that 65mm dimensions with a calliper that gave me goosebumps as I thought you were about to short it out.

  • @brzydka_i_bestia
    @brzydka_i_bestia Před 7 lety +2

    Good video. I have recently found a smashed ps3 controller outside with a lithium ion battery in it. It was not discharged below 3 volts, after charging and testing i have a good battery for my next project :)

  • @olivermarkus6917
    @olivermarkus6917 Před 7 lety

    thx m8. really helpful video

  • @jollyreal1
    @jollyreal1 Před 7 lety +1

    thank this really help!!

  • @luigipizzolito5597
    @luigipizzolito5597 Před 7 lety

    Great videos!!

  • @raptorswire3128
    @raptorswire3128 Před 6 lety

    great useful video!

  • @techkri
    @techkri Před 3 lety

    Thanks for your effort

  • @SDRLG
    @SDRLG Před 7 lety

    Great Video!

  • @batteryeverfit6666
    @batteryeverfit6666 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much for the explanation and knowledge,。

  • @georgegibson707
    @georgegibson707 Před 7 lety +154

    Battery life (charge cycles), Rate of self discharge, Charge efficiency (energy in vs out)can be factors in the choice too.

    • @krzysiekzdrojewski6865
      @krzysiekzdrojewski6865 Před 4 lety

      Yeah, maybe

    • @antkoos
      @antkoos Před 3 lety

      how can you measure the charge efficiency?

    • @Trakkson
      @Trakkson Před 3 lety +5

      @@antkoos Congrats bro, you just dug out 3yo comment. Anyway, you can just measure energy "pumped" into the cell when charging, then measure te energy sucked out of it and compare the two.

    • @levelup1279
      @levelup1279 Před 2 lety

      They all work forever, just repair it if it breaks then you have infinite charges

    • @1224chrisng
      @1224chrisng Před 2 lety

      In terms of charge cycles, Lead Acid is weird in that there are 2 types of batteries with different ratings. "Deep Cycle" batteries are made from solid pieces of lead and can be fully charged and discharged many times, whereas "Starting Lighting and Ignition" batteries are made of lead sponge and can degrade rapidly if fully discharged

  • @NOXFPV
    @NOXFPV Před 4 lety

    Nice video, thanks.

  • @don38341
    @don38341 Před 6 lety

    Great video 💪💪💪💪💜

  • @someperson7
    @someperson7 Před 2 lety

    I would have liked you to cover the effect of temperature on each variety. Still, very good video and analysis 👍🏻

  • @SymphonyKol_androidLover

    Amazingly made video.

  • @jarno4054
    @jarno4054 Před 6 lety

    Very good video, more like this please, I like

  • @andyharbottle4175
    @andyharbottle4175 Před 7 lety

    your video's are fantastic

  • @alirezaghaderi
    @alirezaghaderi Před 4 lety

    Great Video
    Thankss

  • @Mardsds
    @Mardsds Před 7 lety

    very informative!

  • @solosinti320
    @solosinti320 Před 6 lety

    muchas gracias ,hoy aprendi algo Nuevo

  • @akhurash
    @akhurash Před 7 lety +52

    I think one more advantage to using lead acid is that they perform better in colder conditions than the other types. By perform I mean they are not as susceptible to temperature changes as the other types.

    • @yousurf374
      @yousurf374 Před 5 lety +1

      And NiMH is ot so bad in cold either and can be charged in cold conditions too.

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 Před 4 lety +2

      Lithium ion batteries perform better in the cold most cars that don't start in the winter are stuck there because their lead acid batteries failing.

    • @mishracisco
      @mishracisco Před 3 lety

      Yes bro acid lead battery is best

    • @mishracisco
      @mishracisco Před 3 lety

      👍👍

  • @AbdulRehman-eo2hv
    @AbdulRehman-eo2hv Před 7 lety

    Bro you are amazing 😇

  • @dutxinm6746
    @dutxinm6746 Před 6 lety

    Very well said sir.

  • @mekomeqvabishvili4595
    @mekomeqvabishvili4595 Před 6 lety

    Nice and helpful video, can you advice which one is for mini quattro project or elec-bike??

  • @MrMath-xm9fk
    @MrMath-xm9fk Před 3 měsíci

    Great job and study, keep the good work...
    One more point better to be taken into consideration while discussing the cost is the lifetime of each kind (in other words its number of cycles before loosing 20% of its nominal capacity)

  • @215485hggv
    @215485hggv Před 7 lety

    thanks for all advices and informations, I appreciate all your projects. However, what do you know about hall sensors. Can you explain it in a video?

  • @GetGood5
    @GetGood5 Před 7 lety

    very nice thanks!

  • @revoxsvko
    @revoxsvko Před 7 lety

    Great vid!

  • @Aatikslab
    @Aatikslab Před 7 lety +2

    Great scott i wonder how would remember these large quantity of sooo much complex formula 😁😅

  • @CAv-lp2qk
    @CAv-lp2qk Před 7 lety

    Worth mentioning also the big difference between a car battery and the deep cycle battery shown! To complicate even more, you can now get "lithium-ion" aaa, aa, 9v ect. batteries with micro USB ports in them for charging!

  • @phenomen113
    @phenomen113 Před 7 lety +1

    Can you do a tutorial how to use multiple Li-Ion cells in series within a portable project? (like speakers or something)
    Including charging circuit with an external powersupply, balance circuit(-board) etc. That would be very helpful!

  • @andsgiant
    @andsgiant Před 3 lety

    Thanks for educational video, I just dismantle Li Po/battery... It is smell, itchy and hot when touching the layers!!

  • @techguru7176
    @techguru7176 Před 4 lety

    Great video

  • @davidgrigoryan3616
    @davidgrigoryan3616 Před 7 lety

    You are my role model
    📺🔋🔌🔦

  • @anlcanbulut8066
    @anlcanbulut8066 Před 7 lety

    you're my idol, go on like this :D

  • @chronophagocytosis
    @chronophagocytosis Před 6 lety +2

    Your use of SI units was pretty good, but I would still have used J instead of Wh. Anyway, keep up the good work!

    • @lampofthestreet
      @lampofthestreet Před 4 lety

      Depends who you ask. I think in his field he uses Wh more than J

    • @chronophagocytosis
      @chronophagocytosis Před 4 měsíci

      Because J is the correct unit of energy, just like m is the correct unit of length. What else is there to say?@@user-kx8vn6tm1d

  • @martinsverko624
    @martinsverko624 Před 7 lety +1

    extremly good vidio

  • @naami2004
    @naami2004 Před 7 lety +2

    Very useful video, thank you

  • @TheFlacker99
    @TheFlacker99 Před 7 lety +2

    Would you recommend that Eco 6-10 balance charger?

  • @JeroenTrappers
    @JeroenTrappers Před 7 lety

    Number of expected cycles, high vs low discharge current requirements, charge time,... may also be things to consider.

  • @badrearras2926
    @badrearras2926 Před 7 lety

    stay creative scott :)

  • @jetlaggedchef6806
    @jetlaggedchef6806 Před 5 lety

    Great video! What about safety and lifespan around salt water? (Like on a boat for an electric motor?)

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 Před 7 lety +194

    Li-Po is great for high-power discharge!

    • @LazerLord10
      @LazerLord10 Před 7 lety +5

      *****
      yup. Sounds about right. There's also Li-Fe (lithium Iron), which is pretty low power (mine is 2A max).

    • @CAv-lp2qk
      @CAv-lp2qk Před 7 lety +3

      +kingknut icr, inr, imr all meaningless really, as no standardisation amongst all manufacturers in this regard. High discharge "li-po" in an 18650 package are being called "Ii-ion", and low discharge "li-ion" in a soft pouch is still "li-ion".. Go figure!!

    • @LazerLord10
      @LazerLord10 Před 7 lety +2

      *****
      Well, they're good for RC transmitters because they're low power, and don't need to be set at a storage voltage. Like all batteries, they're fit for a specific purpose.

    • @CAv-lp2qk
      @CAv-lp2qk Před 7 lety

      Unless their from certain online hobby store... Their cheaper transmitter packs have been known to puff when left charged.. Probably reject cells rebranded, might have a tiny bit of iron in the recipe so marketing calls em "li-fe".. ni-mh Eneloops are great for tx's

    • @profsacin
      @profsacin Před 7 lety +2

      Good review. High discharge current is also important.

  • @adoniscmj3212
    @adoniscmj3212 Před 6 lety

    This is really a good way to look at battery power. I use 18650 type cells due to there energy. Lead acid batteries can be dangerous as well. When charging they give off hydrogen gas, that can explode if there is a spark, plus they contain lots of lead and sulfuric acid, so not really the safest option. The 18650 can be dangerous, but as long as you are careful with them, they can really be useful. They are getting safer everyday and they are getting more out of them as well. I look forward to seeing just how much better they can get.

  • @dansanger5340
    @dansanger5340 Před 7 lety

    There's also supercapacitors, which can be useful in some low capacity applications. The digitizer pen for my laptop uses a supercapacitor instead of a chemical battery, and it recharges in 15 seconds.

  • @BobSmith-in1zh
    @BobSmith-in1zh Před 7 lety

    hi I love your chanel, the
    idea think that your chanel is very entertaining & informative.i would like if you took a look at the udoo x86 & made a review & comparison to other board thank & keep doing what you do

  • @spudnik1766
    @spudnik1766 Před 7 lety

    Hey Scott, Will you ever do giveaways or live streams?

  • @abdoun8214
    @abdoun8214 Před 11 měsíci

    I have almost 15 years old 12V NiMH (1500Mah) Battery pack , it still working well .

  • @MarcusfotosDe
    @MarcusfotosDe Před 7 lety

    Oh Boy! I envy your handwriting!

  • @Foysalmonsur
    @Foysalmonsur Před 6 lety

    @GreatScott! What kind of pen do you use to Write? I mean those yellow pens

  • @MDFRESCUER
    @MDFRESCUER Před 7 lety

    Good video.

  • @adisakti20
    @adisakti20 Před 7 lety

    Hi scott! Sorry if I'm asking a really noob question here. But what does it mean to have higher power density? Does it mean it will last longer on the same discharge rate?

  • @z77jabbjaw
    @z77jabbjaw Před 7 lety

    another great video! please do a diy mini rc car!