Challengers (2024) is absolutely DIABOLICAL
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I just want to come on here as a massive tennis fan and let everyone know that the actual dynamics of the real pros on tour are also Hella dramatic 😭😭😭. Everyone grows up together and come from the same junior tournaments and by the time they become pros everyone knows everyone. People date across the tours, then break up and date other players and there's friendships and rivalries and so much drama every single day cause every single match every day has 2 people playing out their specific dynamic and it's just them, no team no nothing just you, for hours. A lot of it is the sporty tennisy stuff but alot of it is just personal drama 😭. It's bloody fun to watch too if you've seen a highlight on CZcams you'd know. I'm just soo happy the movie is giving it some attention cause I swear it's so bloody fun to watch and people have given it the reputation for being an old people thing when in reality it's a lot of young hot people doing their best to destroy the person on the other side of the court whether they're friends or enemies. (PS if you're interested in any real life tennis dynamics look out for fedal, rafole, sabadosa, tsitsidosa or there's a netflix show from the people who made F1 blow up)
TEAAAAA
@@opiniyonNO FR 😭😭😭. There's a couple in the break point netflix show (both pro players) that start the season bickering a bit and then by the end of the season you find out they broke up and he's with someone else now 😭😭😭 They're both great tho love watching them both and wow so beautiful
As a sports fan, this sounds like formula one! They all grow up knowing each other. It’s very fun to watch and the rivalries are amazing. I want to watch tennis now haha
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THANK you for sharing that!! 😂🫶
Zendaya said in a interview that she was dancing to a Bowie song and they changed the song in editing
this makes sm sense lol
Personally for me the score was the most exciting aspect of the movie that made me really lock in to what was happening at a given time and I don’t necessarily remember it being overly loud or anything so it’s definitely possible it was your theater lmao
i'm seeing a lot of people praise the score so mayhaps i need to see this again at a different theater lol
i loved the high-energy edm music! it made me feel like I was in the zone with them!
I thought you were talking the match score, not the soundtrack and i was so confused lol but i completely agree!!!!!! I loved the edm music, it really got my heart rate up and excited for what what was about to happen.
you’re bugging! the soundtrack is one of the main characters! such a great tone setter and a bold way to underscore the tension of a conversation or a game of tennis
Enjoying a sports movie was not on my 2024 bingo card, but wow, it was amazing. I was the only person in the cinema so was truly thriving with my own accidental private screening.
Also, the score was really loud for me too, so I think that's just how it's meant to be.
right! i thought it was just my theater having the music too loud but I learned that it's how the movie intentionally made it
17:04 What I noticed during this part is that Tashi listing off Art’s good qualities not only didn’t seem to annoy Patrick, it actually seemed to…get him going 🤷🏻 It was only when she said the part about Patrick thinking he’s won before the game is over that he became bothered.
Also, I definitely think the loud score was intentional, and yes it was very loud. It was an original score by the NIN guy, made special for this movie, so I had to be an intentional choice by Luca. While it bugged me a bit that it got loud during some pivotal arguments, I actually think that was on purpose too - it added to the chaos and made it hard to hear and understand the other person, as often happens in arguments with loved ones. Also, like the rampant product placement, I think the loud pump-up music was meant to make even their most intimate moments feel like a tennis match, or a sports drink commercial.
OMG LITERALLY
I fucking loved the music, i dont feel like it drowned out the voices at all. It just got my heart pumping and that combined with the drama unfolding made me breathless. Holy fuck an incredible movie
Everyone is breaking into a sweat about this movie faster than Mike Faist and Josh O’Connor in the sauna.
the people have spoken
This movie sounds like a real racket! You definitely served with this one, love
Lmaooo
In the original script, patrick tells tashi that he never had a great career in tennis because he felt responsible for her injury. Since she was supposed to be the one out of the three to have an amazing career and couldnt play anymore, he felt he couldnt possibly be succesful.
I found that excuse cheap,it wasn't just that ,like there were many factors,he was already failing before the injury,he said,he used tennis as form of not having a" real" job or responsabilities,when I doubt tennis isn't a big commitment and must have a lot of responsabilities. He lacked the discipline,he never stopped smoking,we don't see him training anymore ,he never changes his service,he didn't listen to advices or coaching.Like he took his decisions,wanted to live the life as he wanted ,and played tennis as he wanted but that doesn't make you necessarily successful. In the original script ,Tashi predicted since the beginning that he won't be susessful in tennis. I would accept it,if with the injury ,he became a complete different player,but he was in that path a long time ago
@@dreamslove1184yeah that feels like a shitty thing to put on her
It was extremely loud for us, too! We thought that they had messed something up in the cinema, but it doesn't sound like it. They probably requested theatres to turn up the volume.
23:15 if this actually happened I would’ve gone crazy in the cinema
it was techno but YES it was so bloody loud i think the mixing was off bc i swear i couldn't hear dialogue half the time?? it was so jarring when the music would come up for 2 seconds just for titles e.g. match point ??
watched the movie a few days ago and i'm still trying to wrap my brain around it, so this video actually helped me understand some of the scenes a bit clearer. also i work at a movie theater and the audio being like that is most likely the theater's fault! the most common complaint i hear is the temperature and the sound.
Idk if I maybe missed it but did you mention the flashback to Atlanta. Got me thinking if Lily is really Art’s lol
Especially since her hair was dark and curly like Patrick's...and she also said to Patrick "our" child 🤭
I saw this the other day and i am DYING to discuss the deets - do you think Art and Tashi stayed together after?? Did she coach Patrick? Are they friends again? Do they all just get in a throuple????
just saw this last night and loved it!! i agree the score was loud at times but i loved it and thought it really added to the intensity of certain moments, especially how it’d be so loud and then immediately quiet when something happened in a scene. also that ending made me smile so big, SO GOOD!!
no words. you've summed up my thoughts in this one video
The sound mixing was really imbalanced in my theater too, I missed dialogue because of it
Really enjoyed this movie, that serve callback and the part where Tashi just leans back both truly were everything
i LOVED it too! every messy, complicated second of it!
score was loud but i rave and have adhd so my brain rot was looooving it haha
Ok but in that part in tashi mentioning Art' s qualities,in te beginning,Patrick also agreed,he was even turned on.
9:05 I feel this. Sorry to hear if you’re in this position, but it’s great you can find the time and passion to do these videos. I wish I had more motivation to be more creative, but coporations are just sucking the soul out of me.. Watching shitty people be shitty sometimes makes me feel better about myself... The music was loud but in a good way. I think there was just issues with some of the dialogue recording, it was a bit rough and they didn’t replace it with ADR to make it more clear, which I wish they would. Also I would say there is technically one sex scene, being in the collage dorm, pretty sure Tashi had her hand down Patrick’s pants. But the point you make is very true. That tennis ball POV shot was fire though, the most exciting cinema I’ve seen in a while. Also loved the way they would shoot the balls going right into the camera (which I believe were fake VFX balls), but it just keeps you so on edge the whole time. This is one of the few sports movies where I actually enjoy the sports scenes, so Luca did a fantastic job.
you've convinced me to watch this movie this is so messy i HAVE to see it
Yes, the music was super loud on my cinema as well!
I wanna tell you that you're right!! She said in an interview that wasn't the song that was playing but I don't remember which song she said it really was.
I really enjoyed the score. The synth to drive up energy and subtle background songs that added to the tension! ⚡
It was absolutely too loud in theaters, so I missed some dialogue.
The music was a bit of a problem for me as well
The one scene that truly GAGGED me and made me cry was when Art asked Tashi to hold him till he slept off. Idk why, maybe it was the buildup of the scene with Art trying to get Tashi’s approval or whatever, but that point exactly was what made me shed some serious tears.
“Something that’s a little … 💁♀️” LOL
ok you weren't kidding when you said an extremely sweaty close up, jesus 😂
I’m happy that there is a subsection of the Internet that says the poster with the sunglasses gives ‘Baazigar’ Energy.
Zendaya and SRK could’ve played the same character.
The sound mixing was fine in my theater. The music WAS loud, but the dialgoue was audible
Personally the movie fell flat for me, I thought we get like a trio and they all three played tennis and were against each other and this epic/Dramatic love triangle
I don’t understand. It was a trio and all 3 DID play tennis with and against each other in an epic and dramatic love triangle. What you say you “thought we get” IS what we got? If you were expecting all 3 to play tennis at the same time, that’s not possible (unless they’re doing doubles with a random 4th person).
no the score was loud for me too and idk if something is wrong with me but I didn't like it, the untz untz thumpa thumpa took me out constantly. there was a point where art and pat were having a conversation in the sauna and the music started thumpa thumping and it was drowning out there conversation and I was like what is the reason.
Me pausing the video just to go watch the movie and i can confirm the music is goofy as hell and that is def not house 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sounded like just dance 4 satisfaction 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ok but what team are YOU on
team Lilly
Idk I was in love with the soundtrack but I also love techno in general
i’ve been so confused seeing people call art the bad guy/loving patrick. patrick was sooo icky to me, like that’s a loser who’s still living in high school. he’s literally living in his car and can’t pay $70 and yet he’s still gloating that art has never won against him. ugh and his smug little grin that he had in every scene? i could not stand him. maybe i’m biased because i’m a mike faist fan but josh o’connor was not giving charisma for me, it was giving sleaze😭
Sincerely I think he was sincere in many aspects ,and yeah he said that to art about not winning but the most important aspect was really he missed playing with Art. I don't think there was a villain in this movie. Now,he lived in a car bc he wanted ,his family has a lot of money
Haven't watched the movie myself, only seen some commentary, but no one's mentioned that they have a daughter??? Idk that added an extra something for me just now
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surely there was an error in the theater that's so funny that it was just blasting the whole time
I have to be so honest that movie INFURIATED me
Everytime a reviewer says the actors are Greek gods or so beautiful I'm just like where
All Luca Guadanigno did was remind us why some men tuned into women’s tennis matches back in the day.
Zendaya actually said in an interview that she was dancing to a bowie song in that scene lol. She probably was like “i do have great rhythm btw, the editor just decided to fuck me over on that one.”
im team art but im toxic so
What do you mean it's not character-driven!? This film would be nothing without the complex relationships and sly looks from the trio! I've seen it three times now (I have an unlimited cinema pass in Berlin) and the first time I regarded it only as a soft porno, the second time I enjoyed it more and was curious about all of the different timelines and storytelling, but the THIRD time! Woo, the third time I was glued to the story of deep betrayal, loss, codependency, bi/pan sexuality, the music from the intimate scenes (not the techno, but I liked that intensity too), and enjoyed the aging and fashion of the main trio as well. I went from unimpressed to extremely interested in how much was put into this film and the dedication of it all from the entire film crew. PS: the score was LOUD ASF but only during the techno music, not so loud on the other music. I think it was purposeful to drive the plot.
I must have seen a different movie than most, because the sound design was trash and questionable.
Naw the music was loud af
Seems like an insanely abusive & toxic relationship/situation that is glorified because zendaya is in the film? Fucking stupid. Glad I didn’t watch the actual film but tbh idk why I watched this whole thing 😂
definitely not glorified, I think people were latching onto the wrong things from the trailer, but watching the movie I was hooked and pleasantly surprised
personally i thought it was pretty clear that all three of these people were awful and terrible to each other (not glorified or idealized) - the hype for me comes from the entertainment of watching these relationships unravel and witnessing great acting
@@MsUdontknowmee totally agree with this. its more a look at how co-dependency can really harm all who are apart of the toxic relationship. I think its people online who have made it about the lust, "oh my gosh that movie was so sexy", "I wanna in between all three of them", etc., but that wasn't the actual focus of the movie in my opinion
Horrible movie
This movie has been on my mind ever since I saw it. Makes me wanna violently break a tennis racket for no reason. 🧍♂️
it seems very therapeutic
I saw it this afternoon and I want Zendaya to win an Oscar - I’m very serious about this