Why Williams Have a HOLE in Their Sidepod

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
  • Skinny ones, wide ones, ones you could take a bath in - sidepods have been changed dramatically this year - and a great sidepod design could be key for this year.
    But, pretty much all of the teams have adopted completely different solutions - all focusing on optimising aerodynamics, cooling and packaging.
    So we’ve got Scarbs in to explain each one - as well as the one that has got us all a bit confused.
    Let’s go.
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Komentáře • 443

  • @Driver61
    @Driver61  Před 2 lety +142

    Who do you think has NAILED IT this season? Ferrari? Williams? Merc again?
    *Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE*

  • @eXX0n
    @eXX0n Před 2 lety +420

    I'm so excited for this season. Basically we have no idea how these cars will perform when put up against each other.
    I hope we'll see a big switchup and more close racing/fighting for points!
    Great video, Scott! Thanks for all the interesting content you're providing us!

    • @DamienJones77
      @DamienJones77 Před 2 lety +2

      My thoughts exactly! I am SO hyped for this season opener, to see these cars go head to head for the first time and (hopefully) see the pecking order mixed up!

    • @robertshudson4482
      @robertshudson4482 Před 2 lety

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    • @scott4543
      @scott4543 Před 2 lety

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    • @gracemary1084
      @gracemary1084 Před 2 lety

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    • @peteranderson1620
      @peteranderson1620 Před 2 lety

      @kvng I started from the bottom... now I'm here!

  • @memolano100
    @memolano100 Před 2 lety +120

    The Williams looks gorgeous, as well as the Aston and Ferrari. The Red Bull looks edgy. I can’t wait for the beginning of the season.

  • @formulaliftr3600
    @formulaliftr3600 Před 2 lety +179

    Interesting that Aston have focused so much on the centre/rear diffuser. Must be to give Seb a car with a really planted rear end as he’s always done best in cars with that philosophy.

    • @scottmeredith3359
      @scottmeredith3359 Před 2 lety +17

      You mean he spins all the time unless the rear end is more planted than a obese woman's ass in the seat of a motor scooter cart at Wal-Mart.

    • @isuckatthisgame
      @isuckatthisgame Před 2 lety +9

      Vettel said that the car is slow as a tractor in slow speed corners and understeers due to heavy rear end downforce production.
      Aston Martin design might have issues with rotation on slow street circuits but kick ass on fast flowing circuits.

    • @saqib_999
      @saqib_999 Před 2 lety +24

      @@scottmeredith3359 He doesn't spin all the Time. Hamilton made more errors last season then Vettel did in any of his championship contention years such as 17 and 18 and back in the 10s 11s 12s and 13 season

  • @Chuck59ish
    @Chuck59ish Před 2 lety +585

    We don't really know which design actually works until the end of the opening race and who stands 1, 2 and 3 on the podium.

    • @cmfan6870
      @cmfan6870 Před 2 lety +39

      More like who has the most “fastest laps” at the during the season

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Před 2 lety +72

      Spoilers: it's not going to be Mazepin

    • @OOpSjm
      @OOpSjm Před 2 lety +41

      Takes a lot more than one race to develop a concept

    • @cmfan6870
      @cmfan6870 Před 2 lety +19

      @@OOpSjm exactly. This comment is wrong

    • @ce2288
      @ce2288 Před 2 lety +3

      @@alaeriia01 bro chill

  • @UmVtCg
    @UmVtCg Před 2 lety +16

    4:14 I agree, I love a tight rear.

    • @mariodriessen9740
      @mariodriessen9740 Před 2 lety +2

      I wouldn’t want it any other way. That and a slim waist. And…

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki Před 2 lety +51

    Well rather than outwash around the rear wheels they might get pretty efficient directed flow to the central rear wing and diffuser. Might be a way to get away from peaky downforce and indeed allow lots of tuning throughout the season.

  • @danphan6860
    @danphan6860 Před 2 lety +15

    my boi albon last year has spent over 10 hours in the sim, 18 hours at the factory per day. most of the week he slept in the red bull factory. Besides he had to do his DTM race too and sometimes attended f1 race week too. Red Bull unsung hero.

    • @soundninja99
      @soundninja99 Před 2 lety

      Don't forget how Checo praised him for giving him detailed feedback about his experience

  • @MortyMortyMorty
    @MortyMortyMorty Před 2 lety +34

    This year's Aston Martin and Ferrari are one of the best liveries ever made in F1!
    Just look at that bad boy: 2:57

    • @martingonzalez2850
      @martingonzalez2850 Před 2 lety +1

      It's ugly

    • @S1lvo_
      @S1lvo_ Před 2 lety +4

      @@martingonzalez2850 what? Do you like the grey blob of a mercedes?

    • @H00H
      @H00H Před 2 lety +1

      @@S1lvo_ Pime Back it's called silver

    • @MortyMortyMorty
      @MortyMortyMorty Před 2 lety +1

      @@martingonzalez2850 No problem bro, it's okay to have a bad taste.

    • @martingonzalez2850
      @martingonzalez2850 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MortyMortyMorty Mere projection matey.

  • @kylesebring
    @kylesebring Před 2 lety +31

    When are you guys gonna buy Scarbs a camera and mic to set up next to his webcam so he can send you crystal clear footage later on for the official video. With him being such a regular guest it would be a good investment.

  • @Andrew-vx2ls
    @Andrew-vx2ls Před 2 lety +19

    This is an interesting idea from Williams as it allows air to be redirected and the "nozzle" may work differently at different speeds.

  • @yosoytupadrastro
    @yosoytupadrastro Před 2 lety +228

    I'm just scared that such a variety of solutions may lead to massive differences in the team's performance, rather than even out the grid as they had intended

    • @mordor1779
      @mordor1779 Před 2 lety +78

      The dream scenario would be that every design from each team works well and is more or less equal this way we would have cars that look very different and yet are all competitive for years. But I'm worried that one design in particular is going to be completely dominating and by next year, the cars will all look the same

    • @SamBrickell
      @SamBrickell Před 2 lety +9

      Go watch a spec series buddy.

    • @GonzoDonzo
      @GonzoDonzo Před 2 lety +21

      Good. I dont want a spec series. F1's iconic cars and teams have always found advantages over the field, within the formula. This is what drives technology further and evolves the sport. The fia have a track record of limiting teams who find huge advantages, so if someone is way ahead of the field, either the teams will adapt or the fia will step in and regulate/ban it.

    • @GonzoDonzo
      @GonzoDonzo Před 2 lety +1

      @@mordor1779 Its a possibility. With the teams having to share research and stay within a cap then the ability to be creative are reduced. They are definitely locked in this years because i cant see a team having a mostly new chassis by years end

    • @MrDufDaddy
      @MrDufDaddy Před 2 lety +1

      I don't think this is something to worry about. If for example (and honestly I hope this is reality), Williams design is genius and results in them being on the podium in the first couple of races. The other teams will quickly figure out what Williams did right and copy it for themselves.

  • @meredith7735
    @meredith7735 Před 2 lety +6

    I've only been big into F1 since late 2018 but holy man am I excited about how radically different pretty much all of the teams are going with these rule changes.

  • @jjhunter101
    @jjhunter101 Před 2 lety +12

    Mad that the Merc is already out of date. Interested to see how their interpretation and new tech will fare against the rest of the paddock

  • @bits2646
    @bits2646 Před 2 lety +3

    Can't wait for the first race in heavy rain, I think then we'll see new aero in proper action !! :DDD

  • @5336161
    @5336161 Před 2 lety +1

    I noticed the progress bar on the ad you read.....I appreciate that.

  • @javsjavs8659
    @javsjavs8659 Před 2 lety +8

    Sad we didn't get a proper look into the Alpine and the Haas :(

  • @peterbrown7965
    @peterbrown7965 Před 2 lety

    Well put together summary. Ordering and grouping of design concepts really helped explain. Good job D61 team!

  • @brettlehman1114
    @brettlehman1114 Před 2 lety +14

    From what I have heard the Merc tomorrow is going to show up with the same solution as the Williams. Maybe their engineers learned something since they supply the engines??

  • @HACKA33
    @HACKA33 Před 2 lety

    It´s been a long time or even never F1 had been so much technically discussed. I see a huge leap at how F1 fans are seeing the sport now and discussing it. Sidepods, front wings, car shapes in general, that´s all amazing for the sport, and I think all of that is thanks to the amazing 2021 season. Driver61 congratulations for the amazing content!

  • @patfix
    @patfix Před 2 lety +2

    You guys are really stepping it up this season, and I'm here for it! Turning into one of my favourite F1 channels!

  • @NarenHarwani
    @NarenHarwani Před 2 lety +2

    This video is super informative! Thank you Driver 61! 🙌🏽

  • @broggie123
    @broggie123 Před 2 lety +2

    Definitely need a first launch vs final car used in the first race video. Some massive changes.

  • @uncleardistress
    @uncleardistress Před 2 lety +4

    Seeing the diversity of designs is so exciting. Its like the air races and regattas of old. Each country's dare devils ready to test the best thing thier engineers have come up with. Cant wait for race day!

  • @Matty.Hill_87
    @Matty.Hill_87 Před 2 lety +16

    It's going to be really interesting seeing how the teams are all doing and what is working and what's not after the first few races

  • @ralphaverill2001
    @ralphaverill2001 Před 2 lety

    I agree that it is good to see so many different aero design ideas.
    It would be interesting to come back to this video at the end of the season to compare what the designs look like after a season of racing.

  • @StephensonRaceTech
    @StephensonRaceTech Před 2 lety

    Guys, check this out: The ferrari sidepod design is taking an "OK" concept that was used in the 2004 Panoz/G-Force Indy car side pod. pretty cool.

  • @Skreezilla
    @Skreezilla Před 2 lety +2

    It is nice to have different looking cars! last year we had a little variation but this new car is great to see! i mean look back from 2010 - 1020 all the cars looked almost the same, if you painted them all black it would be hard to tell them all apart, I love seeing different solutions for cars!

  • @tt5570
    @tt5570 Před 2 lety +1

    They have also Latifi: champion decider!

  • @audikool
    @audikool Před 2 lety +2

    Williams: look, I made a whole in my side pods
    Mercedes: watch this...

  • @stevem048
    @stevem048 Před 2 lety +28

    As a Ferrari fan it always concerns me when I’m reminded no one else used their side pod configuration which either means it’s another F2004 or another SF1000. Hopefully out of sequence model numbers have no effect on performance.

    • @missouriresole4726
      @missouriresole4726 Před 2 lety +4

      Even if this car will be not an F2004 will be far from being a SF1000 . The 2020 had some serious other problems apart from aerodynamics starting with engine , and the gearbox , the suspensions . The F1 75 has a very powerful engine, so could be easily onother SF90 if it fails. If it succeeds will be a serious title contender .

  • @marcovpicado
    @marcovpicado Před 2 lety

    what a big challenge...comming results......great spectation generated for the coming season.....great job guys.....see you on the track

  • @kaj750
    @kaj750 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd legitimately like to see Williams be competitive.

    • @cheesyisgod
      @cheesyisgod Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, I remember the 2014 season fondly, hopefully the extra development hours have really worked

  • @eduarddumitru2645
    @eduarddumitru2645 Před 2 lety +4

    waiting on that merc no sidepod vid cmon :D

  • @robertbalu8001
    @robertbalu8001 Před 2 lety +1

    "the way you started reminded me of: "one hypotetical one Juan" :D

  • @tiagogobbi3610
    @tiagogobbi3610 Před 2 lety

    It's really great see many diferent car designs!! And one fuction, maybe major one of Ferrari side pods it's split the hot air from up place from the cold and clean air from botton improving the Venturi effect tunneling this two diferents air flows!! Great video as ever Driver, we see you next!! :))

  • @amarshallvt
    @amarshallvt Před 2 lety +11

    I think Williams will be a competitor... That extra CFD counts

  • @tylervanorman492
    @tylervanorman492 Před 2 lety +12

    I'm so excited for the new ideas. Great tech stuff as always.

  • @breakinghabits_II
    @breakinghabits_II Před 2 lety +4

    The Alfa’s camouflage actually makes it easier to see the side pod detail

  • @lukeearthcrawler896
    @lukeearthcrawler896 Před 2 lety +8

    As a lifelong McLaren fan, so far I'm happy with what the team has done with the 2022 car.

    • @vukvucinic3685
      @vukvucinic3685 Před 2 lety +1

      This aged like milk

    • @lukeearthcrawler896
      @lukeearthcrawler896 Před 2 lety

      @@vukvucinic3685 Milk mixed with vinegar. :( I think the Mercedes PU is not working with the E10 fuel all that well. It can't be a coincidence that all Mercedes powered cars have bad aero. The fastest lap Lando did during the race was only .5 sec slower than Russell. Last year they were on similar gaps to Mercedes. The issue was Russell himself was over 1 sec slower than Charles.

  • @akmen95
    @akmen95 Před 2 lety +12

    there are reports already saying that the merc we have seen at test 1 is the car that was dev till end of 21' and test 2 will have the car that they devved this year, saying its already a second faster. If q1 comes and they are 0.5 ahead thats the last time i watched F1

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz Před 2 lety

      I think at first few races it's gonna be
      Mercedes
      McLaren
      Ferrari
      RedBull

    • @missouriresole4726
      @missouriresole4726 Před 2 lety

      @@MP422ownz I think will be mostly Ferrari RB Merc .

    • @glokta1
      @glokta1 Před 2 lety

      > reports
      Only ONE rumor from an Italian source Il Corriere della Sera which is unreliable even by the low Italian motorsports journalism standards. All that is known for sure, as confirmed by the German AMuS, is that Mercedes will have a conceptually different car to the one in Barcelona while RB will have the same concept but haul on major upgrades

  • @hartleydall167
    @hartleydall167 Před 2 lety +38

    Good video. Great explanation. The swipe and pop sound effects are unnecessary, just distracted from the information.

    • @FlakeSE
      @FlakeSE Před 2 lety

      those pops are awful

  • @RCRitterFPV
    @RCRitterFPV Před 2 lety +1

    These cars look soo cool.
    truly modern and different.,
    Love it!!!

  • @AB7F9
    @AB7F9 Před 2 lety +1

    Nothing like a good mind bending speculation prior to the first race. Gonna be awesome! Total guess work till the first q1,2,3. Then we'll see who's who.

  • @SergioGollo
    @SergioGollo Před 2 lety

    You nailed it with this video. Quality content.

  • @achilleasfloudas1972
    @achilleasfloudas1972 Před 2 lety

    Another informative video and appreciate the timer on the advertising

  • @grahamsong4585
    @grahamsong4585 Před 2 lety

    This season is gonna be a lot of fun!!!! So excited!!!!

  • @sheriffola
    @sheriffola Před 2 lety +8

    Scarabs must be so busy these days. He keeps appearing on different technical F1 YT channels.

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 Před 2 lety

      At first I was _SO_ glad Mansell was back...
      But reality is, this may as well be Scarbs channel at this point. 😂

  • @gladius7731
    @gladius7731 Před 2 lety +7

    why do you and WTF1 always upload new videos at the same time?

  • @GoodnotGreat88
    @GoodnotGreat88 Před 2 lety

    Excited for this season, really hoping to see more teams fighting for the top spot.

  • @SebiKoerner
    @SebiKoerner Před 2 lety

    Is there a longer version os Scarbs analysis. I could listen to him for hours.

  • @hanzee9008
    @hanzee9008 Před 2 lety

    👍👍👍 informative well done. You're the best ⭐

  • @vjollila96
    @vjollila96 Před 2 lety +2

    remember when people were saying that F1 was gonna be a spec series in 2022?

  • @skynet0912
    @skynet0912 Před 2 lety

    I'm already excited for what upgrades and cheeky designs we will see in this first season!
    If there is something teams are amazing at, it's to find flaws, new ideas, and push everything to the edge early on, so i'm guessing the cars will perform and look very different between race 1 and 22, simply because of the massive shakeup in the rules, and very limited prior experience with some of the new technology...

  • @aobrien2
    @aobrien2 Před 2 lety

    It is great to see such a variety of designs, even if its all Aero driven. Made me wonder what if? What if there was no downforce on f1 cars, what would they look like? Impossible for my brain but probably cigar shaped with a roll hoop. i.e. mid 60s style.

  • @heraindesai257
    @heraindesai257 Před 2 lety

    Hoping to see an exciting season this time and see some changes in the podium😁

  • @englishmaninfrance661
    @englishmaninfrance661 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't wait for the first race in a couple of weeks . So many different designs , who's gonna come out on top ?

  • @lightningmcqueen181
    @lightningmcqueen181 Před 2 lety +1

    I just can't get over how UNSIGHTLY the high Nose & front wing make an otherwise surprisingly bada$$ looking chassis designs down the grid...
    The Williams appears to have a much more profound than any of the other cars .
    I don't know if it will work but I like what the Williams guys/women are trying to do, Really Aggressive direction...
    But the more I get a chance to look at the RedBull, Damn🤔🧐...

  • @JimmyRoche420
    @JimmyRoche420 Před 2 lety

    I was so p of over no coverage of the first test and with all the pain and suffering going on. Im really looking forward for F1 to get going. So I'm hoping Sky f1 will show all the test live I can't wait new generation if cars and the same drivers more or less I hope it's going to be good.

  • @DarioDarrow
    @DarioDarrow Před 2 lety +2

    So what you’re saying is Albono will be either First or Last 😅

  • @luisartiach1970
    @luisartiach1970 Před 2 lety +5

    This video aged quickly(at least the mercedes)

  • @wordsshackles441
    @wordsshackles441 Před 2 lety +2

    Love the intro : Skinny ones, wide ones....
    Proceeds with giant turd splash effect.

  • @sagenberg3918
    @sagenberg3918 Před 2 lety

    F1 teams make any design decision.
    Driver61: **GENIUS**
    XD, Great insight in the videos, as always

  • @raysat7256
    @raysat7256 Před 2 lety +1

    Time to invest in scarbs audio/video since your using him in alot of content haha

  • @streuthmonkey1
    @streuthmonkey1 Před 2 lety +1

    Funny how all those people were saying that the new rules were going to create a spec series yet we have some of the most radically different cars in recent history.

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 Před 2 lety

    One thing I was thinking that teams could experiment with is moving the floor main section forwards or to the rear to see which works best for they handling package and more to their drivers preference....managing the brake release pop up an tire recoil mid corners an exit is important because as the floor pops of the ground from a quick release on brakes or tire unload then it loses its optimum aerodynamic performance of the under body...what do yall think

  • @roryoliver6743
    @roryoliver6743 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm just happy to see williams inovating... weather it works out remains to be seen

  • @jaredstig
    @jaredstig Před 2 lety

    I almost wonder if the slight out-washing shape to the thru duct on the Williams may specifically be to direct air around the rear tires. The duct is possibly being used to differentiate the out-wash airflow from the air flow feeding the rear of the floor and the diffuser. I am also curious to hear what Scarbs has to say about how he thinks McLaren are trying to work the floor edge with the bulky sidepods.

  • @edkav6228
    @edkav6228 Před 2 lety +1

    Just wait to see the Mercedes sidepods at Bahrain testing. Gonna be crazy meant to be almost no sidepods

  • @maxp8892
    @maxp8892 Před 2 lety

    What are the temporary metal grids on the cars? What are they used for?

  • @carlsingh3796
    @carlsingh3796 Před 2 lety +1

    Its gonna be Merc , i have no doubt . They are the most innovative and motivated

  • @Optimistic-Frog
    @Optimistic-Frog Před 2 lety

    Really great video but why is the music so loud in the background?

  • @dexmulder9061
    @dexmulder9061 Před 2 lety

    Williams seem to be looking at what Nissan did for their 2015 FWD GT-R LM prototype. Employing airflow "tubes" for efficiency. Be interesting to see if they are effective....

  • @simontheintrepid
    @simontheintrepid Před 2 lety +2

    Scarbs talking about Mercedes sidepods aged like milk!

  • @GotoNambu
    @GotoNambu Před 2 lety +4

    This video gets posted.
    Mercedes’: LMAO watch this

  • @crimsonghost6454
    @crimsonghost6454 Před 2 lety

    They all look different now but next year they will all start moving in the same direction. Then they will start looking very similar. So this season could be really good especially if some of the lower teams jump up towards the front. I just hope the field gets mixed up and no one team dominates.

  • @davemieze9021
    @davemieze9021 Před 2 lety

    This is medicine for my soul.

  • @charliemaybe
    @charliemaybe Před 2 lety

    these new cars look so good!

  • @petkokrushev3840
    @petkokrushev3840 Před 2 lety

    2022 cars are just beautiful

  • @t288msd
    @t288msd Před 2 lety

    Needed some arrows on the pics. I had no idea what most of what was being discussed

  • @weedfreer
    @weedfreer Před 2 lety

    Would the hole in the top of the Williams side-pod not encourage a lot faster air to travel over the top-back-mid section of the car which, in turn may well be attenuating or, at least, smoothing out the airspeed at the rear half of the underside's Venturi system?
    If that is the case, would that indicate that they've found a way of going less agressive using the Venturi system such that they avoid the whole porpoising situation?

  • @VicharB
    @VicharB Před 2 lety +1

    Ccmon WilliamsF1, wanna you there once again!

  • @xAeroSpaceKnightx
    @xAeroSpaceKnightx Před 2 lety +7

    Could the Williams holes be used to assist with stabilizing turns at high speeds?

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki Před 2 lety +1

      It doesn't offer a long lateral surface but it might assist in generating reliable glow over the rear wing with the car at a jaw.

    • @xAeroSpaceKnightx
      @xAeroSpaceKnightx Před 2 lety

      @@Cloxxki perhaps if you get flow off an adjacent car during a turn it could help reduce impact and improve overtaking long turns.

  • @simracingcockpit
    @simracingcockpit Před 2 lety +2

    Great video Scott!

  • @kelliebrooks9094
    @kelliebrooks9094 Před 2 lety

    It was nice to see. MCCLAREN get back up to where they were looking to finish starting the season hoorah

  • @JimiJo
    @JimiJo Před 2 lety

    When’s the vlog on the new w13 side pods or lack of them?

  • @kirkschlichting3974
    @kirkschlichting3974 Před 2 lety

    GREAT VID

  • @PraZeEdits
    @PraZeEdits Před 2 lety +1

    And there we are with mercedes rumors that they have pretty much remove sidepods with a new cooling design with the radiators

  • @flrpulse2638
    @flrpulse2638 Před 2 lety +1

    Extra Debit Card isn't available for the UK??

  • @lucheto_real
    @lucheto_real Před 2 lety

    I don’t understand anything but loving the video

  • @felipemendes133
    @felipemendes133 Před 2 lety +1

    good luck williams!! = )

  • @mr.momobami4975
    @mr.momobami4975 Před 2 lety +1

    well that did not age well for the Mercedes one hahaha great vid tho!!!

  • @rms-vp6hf
    @rms-vp6hf Před 2 lety +1

    Now that the Merc is podless it seems the more we think we know, the more we learn we don’t know.

  • @maximiliandort3489
    @maximiliandort3489 Před 2 lety

    I was worried about every Team ending up with the same, boring car. Now i'm so happy about how very wrong i was, it's really exiting to see all these fundametally different cars

  • @barrybabbot7481
    @barrybabbot7481 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd love to see a version of this sport with relaxed regulations. I want to see all the innovations in one package.. no compromise

    • @Ben-go1iq
      @Ben-go1iq Před 2 lety +1

      Then you won’t have competition, either you can have free development and good racing or no real racing at all and free development
      Your choice

  • @sogandik
    @sogandik Před 2 lety

    cant wait to see the fararri on the starting line .. when its raining

  • @TheBlackriverdecks
    @TheBlackriverdecks Před 2 lety +5

    Loving the Scarbs content ! Maybe he should get a proper mic if he's going to be featured this much? Just a suggestion :)

  • @thinkingisbananas
    @thinkingisbananas Před 2 lety

    The Williams looks nuts from above.

  • @alistiairgodwyn1413
    @alistiairgodwyn1413 Před 2 lety

    Can someone please get scarbs a prober microphone and camera holy shit. It’s literally every video. blimey

  • @wrongcheese
    @wrongcheese Před 2 lety +4

    Saving people the time, 6:06 is where the williams is discussed