Important to note that in the Counter-Strike Major the teams make between 1-2+ mil just for qualifying, as Valve sells in game stickers and shares proceeds 50-50. So the money is much more spread out than the prize pool indicates. There is a chance that the winning team makes less money than teams in a popular sticker capsule.
This is like a classic Filipino. I remember if there's a Dota especially if it's a bet game you should take a companion because if it's bad, there's always a brawl.
Nah you can take that as nothing since most of the player that time don't have reputation to protect. But player became more professional, they have image to protect no matter how close they are. Personal things should not be open publicly and Gabbi just straight clown, unprofessional hope he will get ban. There have been numerous times gabbi been involved with cyber bullying and valve should not tolerate this kind of thing especially to those player who still active on the scene and participating on Tier1 tournaments.
As a Filipino myself, I always had a conspiracy theory that the higher general concentration of Filipino players in a team, the worse those players will perform. Blacklist keeps backing this up, God damn it. (I miss the old TNC days, maybe one day they'll come back and put Filipino DotA back on the map.)
What's the point of making the team of the same nationality. Why don't we just make the team of the best players. No European teams consist of 5 ppl from the same country.
@@Nptpntnpt143 I think it's hard for smaller teams to get foreign players so they try to create team chemistry instead via same region. But they forgot that ppl from the same country will not necessarily get along.
@@Nptpntnpt143 part of it I guess is because they feel comfortable talking using their own language and don't want to be forced to speak English, which would happen if they play in an international team. And when you look at the teams which consist of people from the same countries, they're generally from countries which kinda suck in terms of English language like China, Indonesia, Philippines, South American countries like Peru and Brazil.
While an all Filipino team is good communication wise, as a Filipino myself, I know how unprofessional Filipino pro players can be. I remember Topson and 23savage talking about it.
it was confirmed on Tims and Kuku's stream it was gabbi who told the story personally lol. actually it was a thing in philippines even in dota 1, after the trashtalk follows the fist fight demn I miss the old days lol
it turns out, the whole thing abed punching gabbi was true. armel and kuku already slipped out confirmed it. i translated the stream where gabbi trashtalk lie abed having denture. im planning translating the sequel when gabbi explains and his plan about what happened. and another stream part 3 when he said he plannin to change which hes doing right now. im kinda surprised he really lessened his TT in his stream.
what makes gabbi worse than other toxic pinoy player like kuku and armel is that he doesn't feel any guilt when he bullies people for minutes while laughing demonically and he also don't hold any accountability to his fans when they harass those gabbi's victims on facebook... female caster name dayanara quit her job and deactivate her fb because gabbi accuse her of having bad odor, no apology letter including blacklist org whatsoever and his fans still making fun of her on chat despite of ruining her life
Which teams from the bottom 8 should be qualified then? BB lost to both Aurora and G2xIG which would be their competitors for the last spots in a round robin. Shopify lost to Boom and Aurora, same thing there. Secret faced all three teams that went 3-2, they won one and lost two. I don't think it's unfair to not qualify when you can't beat the majority of the other teams that are fighting for those final spots. Nouns are the only ones that actually have a case as they only had one chance to beat the mid table teams unlike all of the other ones.
the reason most people hated gabbi is the persona he shows in his stream, like taunting people, trashtalking, revealing secrets which can be seen in his stream and he calls it "content". thats why most people are on team abed on this one and a lot of people is saying he had it coming, or its just a matter of time. the one with abed is supposedly true and a secret to him and abed because they were friends. and maybe thats why revealing one of his secrets made abed furious with gabbi even though he said it only as a joke
Hey Cap, I heard Kuku and Gabbi talked about Abed being bought out to return back to SR as POS 3. Check ABED previous games. Gabbi,Natsumi,Jau,Tims,Mikoto new BLR. Kuku,palos,yowe TNC comeback
To explain G2xIG's situation, they are a very emotionally driven team, they play great if they feel good and they play bad when they are nervous or tired. Its that simple
abed and some pinoy pros got Dire while lone gabbi got radiant. abed asked for gabbi to be moved to a diff dc channel. gabbi playfully took it bad then started talking "playful shit" abt abed having dentures since he cant think of anything he can trash abed abt. gabbi then started calling abed out abt the dentures and abed was just "?"-ng abt it. fast forward it seems abed got full of it and punched gabbi multiple times in the face during org content. btw they were really good friends afaik since before ti6 so abed probly had enuf of gabbis bullying and decided to say FAFO and gabbi def found out😂 ps. story seems legit based on the accts of their pinoy pro friends.
The Abed-Gabbi drama is real and was confirmed by the CEO of Blacklist International through an interview on KuyaNic's channel. The organization issued a fine for both players (amount not revealed but was stated that it can buy a car). Still, both players will be playing under Blacklist Rivalry with Tims, Jau, and Natsumi (also confirmed by the CEO) for its new roster.
44:22 RTZ already knew about the airplane-ticket-missed-chrono label. that's why he didn't cast any chronos vs Boom. next level 🤔 (blames disruption bkb priority )
Hi Cap, can I ask one thing about betting in tournaments? Are pro players allowed to bet in any tournaments? I just saw Gabbi's Facebook page about him winning around $3,000 USD.
I mean, if my coworker is gabbi and he’s annoying the crap out of me. Spitting unprofessional stuff. I’d do the same. Gabbi’s online personality is toxic. He doesn’t know that annoying and funny are two different things.
thats true, some pro players have no discipline/urge to grind anymore for personal reasons example: age, comfortable life/salary, health/mental. look at kuroky, some filipino pro players gambling more than playing etc. an observation isnt bad as long as its constructive criticism
@@benjamimbutton7567 my initial comment was phrased poorly. what i actually meant is more. what player exists that does not work hard enough today that would work harder if the prize pools where more top heavy.
@@MrTheSmoon a lot. Some teams perform more when the stakes are higher. I often watch pro player streams and they say they often lock in when its riyadh or TI. You dont want to overwork yourself on all tournaments, you have to manage your efforts, thats that some pros are saying. Even just one big tournament can turn your career around. These are from Armel and Kuku. Other examples. Ana, Azure Ray roster last year
Before this thing blows out of proportion, this was supposed to be a private matter between the 2 of them but since they are public figures, guess it can't be helped. Also, only one side of the story have been made public so I refrain anyone from jumping into any conclusions.
this gabbi/abed issue is all facts. according to tims may 16 is supposed to be the day they start going to bootcamp for riyahd. and gabbi is still at home streaming cause he is possibly out of BLR. Abed practicing offlane (dota2protracker) because he might join SR as pos3 if saberlight is kicked, while gabbi might stay in BLR or join TNC with kuku/yowe/palos.
update to abed-gabbi issue: gabbi semi-confirmed in his latest stream the decision of blr org, he said that on-stream while talking to kuku, the 4 of them will continue on the team: -gabbi -natsumi -jaunuel (new member of bl) -tims while abed bought out of the team, and there are rumors that he will go back to sr as pos3 replacing saberlight, if you check abed's latest pubs and streams he is hard practicing offlane heroes.
Blacklist is screwed they're gonna lose the best pos3 player in sea/ph rn and possibly pos2. They cant even stop gabbi on leaving if theyre gonna put him in contract jail they better start lawyering up
@@choeychoco8974 i mean second to aurora since thats common knowledge that aurora is ways ahead of them but in terms of all the other teams gabbi is now the only available option for them if they want a great pos3 you can also say the same for Ws. On that note these sea teams better pray that aurora gets qualified directly to riyadh or else... 😂😂😂
And ABED is RUmor going Back to SR ..................... WTF ABED you escaped to BULBA now you want Back Better to have boxing match with Gabbi rather than going back to BULBA and RTZ
dota is back bby. If im back watching, then the normies, suits, and the grifters will be back at the viewership trough...piggies going oink oink..or at the very latest, at start of 2025 season. It's a strong nostradamus feel so Book it --> Ti 13 gonna be #1 all time most watched TI--> cue SVG voice "damn". Now to catch up on what i miss...this podcast and dota lin is helping me right now. Thx!
its confirmed now by the CEO of BLR that Abed really punched Gabbi during a photoshoot not in bootcamp tho. just a good way of welcoming their 2 new players Jau and Natsumi. gabbi is not kicked out of team and Abed is not confirmed yet if he gonna play in qualifiers. talks are still being made. issue was said to be personal and not team related, they are equally fined really big money and will be given 100% to charity. this was unexpected since everyone knows that they are good freinds, and filipino dota fans knew Gabbi has a bad mouth in a way that he like trash talking in games thats why everyone thought it was a "for content only" since gabbi sreams and he wants to gain popularity by creating fake issues and hypes.
Gabbi is just digging his own grave at this point. His org destroyer reputation seems real. lmao. Watching his streams feels interesting at first, but gets really annoying fast.
be me, Gabbi start streaming for fun, somehow get popular figure out exposing people's drama = big clout disguise it as "just jokes lol" audience eats it up, rollinginrealizebeingtoxicaf=evenmore push jokes way too far one day, close friend snaps, punches me in the face cry like a little bitch on stream blame friend, take zero responsibility ask for sympathy from viewers, rake in donations drama = endless money machine mfw
I mean, while I agree with SVG that obviously the top heavy teams focus on their own interests --- I think it is interesting that he doesn't note that it is the exact same for bottom teams constantly underperforming, wanting their mediocrity to be rewarded and able to sustain them. Like do you know what happens to the underperforming League player on his contract? He doesn't get a contract renewed, and unlike dota, he isn't just able to go find new tournaments. He is barred from playing, since its locked to their franchising system. What happens to the underperforming NBA player? They take a salary cut...or they are entirely out of the league and go to China to be a ticket/shirt selling machine until they cannot keep it up anymore. I agree that everyone SHOULD get paid. But I still think that there is no value in trying to claim that the bottom players cries for money, is more valid than the top performing teams.
That's not true though? In League you can play in lower leagues if you're not signed for one of the teams in the top league. There's 4 major regions to look at: EU, NA, CN and KR. EU has a ton of regional leagues with somewhere around 585 players in the top regional leagues. A lot of the regional leagues also have lower leagues but I think those are mainly for promotions to the top ones. It's a lot like the football format. NA is the weakest major region with the smallest playerbase, they only have one lower league + national college tournaments as far as I'm aware. CN have the largest top league with like 100 players and a lower league with another 100. Idk how much else there is but that's definitely the most all or nothing region as they have the largest playerbase as well. KR have a similar playerbase to EU. It's got the top league with about 50 players, a lower league with another 50 and an academy league which consists of tournaments that are mainly for scouting players to the 8 teams in their 40 player league. KR does have a bunch of players in minor regions (Brazil, EU regional, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan etc.) though which is where the non-signed players go. Price pools are low as always so it's hard to tell how much they earn, we're talking about a game where the average salary was 410k USD in a league with a 200k USD pricepool here. However, quite a lot of players have played for like 6-7 years in lower leagues as their job so it has to be enough to live off of. Especially the larger ones like the French regional league with 45k average viewers, 158k peak which qualifies into the 60k average 280k peak tournament between the top teams of the EU regionals.
omg..SVG needs some lessons on LOGIC. Look at him discuss on the “weaker” team issue🤯🤯🤯 Koodos to Cap for having to deal with that and keeping his patience 😅🙈
watching the pause between BB & Aurora rn and fuck could I listen to you two sons of bitches riff and talk shit for hours on end. thanks for the content
How do you think about the teams that place last? If you give out lots of money to last place then they can just show up and not try at all and go home with last place money. How can you differentiate between a last place team that tried and one that simply didnt give a shit? Winning at least one series in the playoffs before you are in the money is how valve has usually done this at many majors and people are giving them shit for it. Giving someone "price money" that didn't win any game sounds wrong to me. If you want to compensate them for showing up then that is fine just call it something else.
Thats not real (Abed Punching Gabbi)
it's real i am abed cousin he confirmed it
@@MUGEN-bs3ek meh i dont trust you
Blacklist already confirmed it too
@@Non-Existence3 surely u know more than me lol
bruh gabbi is not even in the bootcamp he is out of BLR. and look at abed protracker hes practicing offlane now tehy're about tog et mikoto
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson
Abed: From National Hero to National Fist
Nah.. abed just doing what our greatest national hero manny pacquiao do ...
Guys these podcasts and conversations are incredible. Have faith in this path and push it as much as possible. I look forward to every episode
SVG's rant about "weak opponent bullshit" was totally on point.
Been loving the content keep it up
BlackEye Rivalry
Important to note that in the Counter-Strike Major the teams make between 1-2+ mil just for qualifying, as Valve sells in game stickers and shares proceeds 50-50. So the money is much more spread out than the prize pool indicates.
There is a chance that the winning team makes less money than teams in a popular sticker capsule.
I love this podcast, Avery’s shenanigans/ rants are the best.
"Gaimin is back in form!" ☠As a GG fan this statement hurt my soul.
Watching these podcasts have made me a fan of avery, so well spoken and very funny.
This is like a classic Filipino. I remember if there's a Dota especially if it's a bet game you should take a companion because if it's bad, there's always a brawl.
Nah you can take that as nothing since most of the player that time don't have reputation to protect. But player became more professional, they have image to protect no matter how close they are. Personal things should not be open publicly and Gabbi just straight clown, unprofessional hope he will get ban. There have been numerous times gabbi been involved with cyber bullying and valve should not tolerate this kind of thing especially to those player who still active on the scene and participating on Tier1 tournaments.
As a Filipino myself, I always had a conspiracy theory that the higher general concentration of Filipino players in a team, the worse those players will perform. Blacklist keeps backing this up, God damn it. (I miss the old TNC days, maybe one day they'll come back and put Filipino DotA back on the map.)
What's the point of making the team of the same nationality. Why don't we just make the team of the best players. No European teams consist of 5 ppl from the same country.
@@Nptpntnpt143 I think it's hard for smaller teams to get foreign players so they try to create team chemistry instead via same region. But they forgot that ppl from the same country will not necessarily get along.
@@Nptpntnpt143 Money bro, EU orgs have a lot more finances to invest to get the best players. Times have changed, money talks in E-Sports!
@@Nptpntnpt143 part of it I guess is because they feel comfortable talking using their own language and don't want to be forced to speak English, which would happen if they play in an international team. And when you look at the teams which consist of people from the same countries, they're generally from countries which kinda suck in terms of English language like China, Indonesia, Philippines, South American countries like Peru and Brazil.
While an all Filipino team is good communication wise, as a Filipino myself, I know how unprofessional Filipino pro players can be. I remember Topson and 23savage talking about it.
The evolution of the titles lmfao
“Ganito ba talaga ang tadhana natin? Kalaban ng kalaban. Kalaban ng kakampi. Nakakapagod. - Antonio Luna
ang OA naman, syempre sino di magagalit na sinabihan ka ng bungal tas insecurity mo yan, matitikman mo talaga kamao ng national hero ano kaba.
it was confirmed on Tims and Kuku's stream it was gabbi who told the story personally lol. actually it was a thing in philippines even in dota 1, after the trashtalk follows the fist fight demn I miss the old days lol
it turns out, the whole thing abed punching gabbi was true. armel and kuku already slipped out confirmed it. i translated the stream where gabbi trashtalk lie abed having denture. im planning translating the sequel when gabbi explains and his plan about what happened. and another stream part 3 when he said he plannin to change which hes doing right now. im kinda surprised he really lessened his TT in his stream.
what makes gabbi worse than other toxic pinoy player like kuku and armel is that he doesn't feel any guilt when he bullies people for minutes while laughing demonically and he also don't hold any accountability to his fans when they harass those gabbi's victims on facebook... female caster name dayanara quit her job and deactivate her fb because gabbi accuse her of having bad odor, no apology letter including blacklist org whatsoever and his fans still making fun of her on chat despite of ruining her life
"$50 impetus" xD
Which teams from the bottom 8 should be qualified then?
BB lost to both Aurora and G2xIG which would be their competitors for the last spots in a round robin.
Shopify lost to Boom and Aurora, same thing there.
Secret faced all three teams that went 3-2, they won one and lost two. I don't think it's unfair to not qualify when you can't beat the majority of the other teams that are fighting for those final spots.
Nouns are the only ones that actually have a case as they only had one chance to beat the mid table teams unlike all of the other ones.
the reason most people hated gabbi is the persona he shows in his stream, like taunting people, trashtalking, revealing secrets which can be seen in his stream and he calls it "content". thats why most people are on team abed on this one and a lot of people is saying he had it coming, or its just a matter of time. the one with abed is supposedly true and a secret to him and abed because they were friends. and maybe thats why revealing one of his secrets made abed furious with gabbi even though he said it only as a joke
Gabbi is the literal definition of "All bark no bite".
from what is being said the other blacklist player have sign an nda
Lmaoooo Bulba bro be careful now.
Abed is coming for you
Hey Cap, I heard Kuku and Gabbi talked about Abed being bought out to return back to SR as POS 3. Check ABED previous games.
Gabbi,Natsumi,Jau,Tims,Mikoto new BLR.
Kuku,palos,yowe TNC comeback
Fucking middle school drama in SEA.
To explain G2xIG's situation, they are a very emotionally driven team, they play great if they feel good and they play bad when they are nervous or tired. Its that simple
abed and some pinoy pros got Dire while lone gabbi got radiant. abed asked for gabbi to be moved to a diff dc channel. gabbi playfully took it bad then started talking "playful shit" abt abed having dentures since he cant think of anything he can trash abed abt. gabbi then started calling abed out abt the dentures and abed was just "?"-ng abt it. fast forward it seems abed got full of it and punched gabbi multiple times in the face during org content. btw they were really good friends afaik since before ti6 so abed probly had enuf of gabbis bullying and decided to say FAFO and gabbi def found out😂
ps. story seems legit based on the accts of their pinoy pro friends.
17:35 Gabbi Abed
The Abed-Gabbi drama is real and was confirmed by the CEO of Blacklist International through an interview on KuyaNic's channel. The organization issued a fine for both players (amount not revealed but was stated that it can buy a car). Still, both players will be playing under Blacklist Rivalry with Tims, Jau, and Natsumi (also confirmed by the CEO) for its new roster.
44:22 RTZ already knew about the airplane-ticket-missed-chrono label. that's why he didn't cast any chronos vs Boom. next level 🤔 (blames disruption bkb priority )
Round robin would be more interesting if all matches were bo 3 imo.
Hi Cap, can I ask one thing about betting in tournaments?
Are pro players allowed to bet in any tournaments? I just saw Gabbi's Facebook page about him winning around $3,000 USD.
If he's not on a team, there's not much to stop him
@@CapCasts I think he is betting in NBA playoffs
what we wanted: 23savage charity boxing match with Gabbi
what we got: Abed punching Gabbi
Whats wrong with gabbi, why so many ppl hate him? 😂
I mean, if my coworker is gabbi and he’s annoying the crap out of me. Spitting unprofessional stuff. I’d do the same.
Gabbi’s online personality is toxic. He doesn’t know that annoying and funny are two different things.
Gabbi forgot he's not in the internet when Abed punched him.
good example abed and gabbi? haha,, the blackeye rivalry
who are these people that look at pro players and think they are not motivated enough.
thats true, some pro players have no discipline/urge to grind anymore for personal reasons example: age, comfortable life/salary, health/mental. look at kuroky, some filipino pro players gambling more than playing etc. an observation isnt bad as long as its constructive criticism
@@benjamimbutton7567 my initial comment was phrased poorly. what i actually meant is more. what player exists that does not work hard enough today that would work harder if the prize pools where more top heavy.
@@MrTheSmoon a lot. Some teams perform more when the stakes are higher. I often watch pro player streams and they say they often lock in when its riyadh or TI. You dont want to overwork yourself on all tournaments, you have to manage your efforts, thats that some pros are saying. Even just one big tournament can turn your career around. These are from Armel and Kuku.
Other examples. Ana, Azure Ray roster last year
Warlus Punch
Before this thing blows out of proportion, this was supposed to be a private matter between the 2 of them but since they are public figures, guess it can't be helped. Also, only one side of the story have been made public so I refrain anyone from jumping into any conclusions.
Did you watch the video?
@@CapCasts oh yeah my bad, I made the comment before watching, I'll edit it
This is true guys the BLR CEO confirmed it in a podcast the issue is already solved and both of them got fined. Also gabbi stayed in BLR.
this gabbi/abed issue is all facts. according to tims may 16 is supposed to be the day they start going to bootcamp for riyahd. and gabbi is still at home streaming cause he is possibly out of BLR.
Abed practicing offlane (dota2protracker) because he might join SR as pos3 if saberlight is kicked, while gabbi might stay in BLR or join TNC with kuku/yowe/palos.
Abed will play offlane and mikoto is the new midlane in blr
This is real. Apparently, the CEO of Blacklist talked about this earlier. ABED and Gabbi were fined.
If you know Gabbi specially in social media, I don't blame people for saying he deserves it and backing-up Abed. This is just sad day for SEA dota.
It's very helpful if you include timestamps
update to abed-gabbi issue:
gabbi semi-confirmed in his latest stream the decision of blr org, he said that on-stream while talking to kuku, the 4 of them will continue on the team:
-gabbi
-natsumi
-jaunuel (new member of bl)
-tims
while abed bought out of the team, and there are rumors that he will go back to sr as pos3 replacing saberlight, if you check abed's latest pubs and streams he is hard practicing offlane heroes.
It's Natsumi
@@j0gs796 oh yeah, right, tnx
Mid - Mikoto
Carry - Natsumi
Off - Gabbi
pos 4 - tims
pos 5 - jau
@@ame5216 is mikoto pos2 confirmed?
abed punches gabbi.
@20:19 He's projecting his insecurities. Also @ 22:30 they're not kids btw they are full grown adults, that's the embarrassing part.
This is what these personalities want so much. The "Filipino" tag for maximum exposure. Kekw
SEA NEWS BEST NEWS
Infinite money glitch @@CapCasts
Blacklist is screwed they're gonna lose the best pos3 player in sea/ph rn and possibly pos2. They cant even stop gabbi on leaving if theyre gonna put him in contract jail they better start lawyering up
gabbi, best pos3 in sea rn? great joke my boy. jabz is waving 😂
@@choeychoco8974 i mean second to aurora since thats common knowledge that aurora is ways ahead of them but in terms of all the other teams gabbi is now the only available option for them if they want a great pos3 you can also say the same for Ws. On that note these sea teams better pray that aurora gets qualified directly to riyadh or else... 😂😂😂
And ABED is RUmor going Back to SR ..................... WTF ABED you escaped to BULBA now you want Back
Better to have boxing match with Gabbi rather than going back to BULBA and RTZ
dota is back bby. If im back watching, then the normies, suits, and the grifters will be back at the viewership trough...piggies going oink oink..or at the very latest, at start of 2025 season. It's a strong nostradamus feel so Book it --> Ti 13 gonna be #1 all time most watched TI--> cue SVG voice "damn". Now to catch up on what i miss...this podcast and dota lin is helping me right now. Thx!
i think the punching thing is just equivalent of kick, someone going to get kicked in the team they just put some drama on it
its confirmed now by the CEO of BLR that Abed really punched Gabbi during a photoshoot not in bootcamp tho. just a good way of welcoming their 2 new players Jau and Natsumi. gabbi is not kicked out of team and Abed is not confirmed yet if he gonna play in qualifiers. talks are still being made. issue was said to be personal and not team related, they are equally fined really big money and will be given 100% to charity.
this was unexpected since everyone knows that they are good freinds, and filipino dota fans knew Gabbi has a bad mouth in a way that he like trash talking in games thats why everyone thought it was a "for content only" since gabbi sreams and he wants to gain popularity by creating fake issues and hypes.
Its still wild that Kyle, on the broadcaster platform, straight up character assassinated a player and the community was completely a-okay about it.
SVG is so funny man
ikr I never knew he was so funny
how tf betboom considered as a weak team?
Mentally
one punch man!!
Gabbi is just digging his own grave at this point. His org destroyer reputation seems real. lmao. Watching his streams feels interesting at first, but gets really annoying fast.
gabbi kangkong
be me, Gabbi
start streaming for fun, somehow get popular
figure out exposing people's drama = big clout
disguise it as "just jokes lol"
audience eats it up,
rollinginrealizebeingtoxicaf=evenmore
push jokes way too far
one day, close friend snaps, punches me in the face
cry like a little bitch on stream
blame friend, take zero responsibility
ask for sympathy from viewers, rake in donations
drama = endless money machine
mfw
I mean, while I agree with SVG that obviously the top heavy teams focus on their own interests --- I think it is interesting that he doesn't note that it is the exact same for bottom teams constantly underperforming, wanting their mediocrity to be rewarded and able to sustain them.
Like do you know what happens to the underperforming League player on his contract? He doesn't get a contract renewed, and unlike dota, he isn't just able to go find new tournaments. He is barred from playing, since its locked to their franchising system.
What happens to the underperforming NBA player? They take a salary cut...or they are entirely out of the league and go to China to be a ticket/shirt selling machine until they cannot keep it up anymore.
I agree that everyone SHOULD get paid. But I still think that there is no value in trying to claim that the bottom players cries for money, is more valid than the top performing teams.
That's not true though? In League you can play in lower leagues if you're not signed for one of the teams in the top league. There's 4 major regions to look at: EU, NA, CN and KR.
EU has a ton of regional leagues with somewhere around 585 players in the top regional leagues. A lot of the regional leagues also have lower leagues but I think those are mainly for promotions to the top ones. It's a lot like the football format.
NA is the weakest major region with the smallest playerbase, they only have one lower league + national college tournaments as far as I'm aware.
CN have the largest top league with like 100 players and a lower league with another 100. Idk how much else there is but that's definitely the most all or nothing region as they have the largest playerbase as well.
KR have a similar playerbase to EU. It's got the top league with about 50 players, a lower league with another 50 and an academy league which consists of tournaments that are mainly for scouting players to the 8 teams in their 40 player league. KR does have a bunch of players in minor regions (Brazil, EU regional, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan etc.) though which is where the non-signed players go.
Price pools are low as always so it's hard to tell how much they earn, we're talking about a game where the average salary was 410k USD in a league with a 200k USD pricepool here. However, quite a lot of players have played for like 6-7 years in lower leagues as their job so it has to be enough to live off of. Especially the larger ones like the French regional league with 45k average viewers, 158k peak which qualifies into the 60k average 280k peak tournament between the top teams of the EU regionals.
LMAO! Cap hates XG hahaha! Good Doto is Good Dota
I actually really like XG
omg..SVG needs some lessons on LOGIC. Look at him discuss on the “weaker” team issue🤯🤯🤯 Koodos to Cap for having to deal with that and keeping his patience 😅🙈
watching the pause between BB & Aurora rn and fuck could I listen to you two sons of bitches riff and talk shit for hours on end. thanks for the content
im drunk, i laughed, good podcast
How do you think about the teams that place last? If you give out lots of money to last place then they can just show up and not try at all and go home with last place money. How can you differentiate between a last place team that tried and one that simply didnt give a shit? Winning at least one series in the playoffs before you are in the money is how valve has usually done this at many majors and people are giving them shit for it. Giving someone "price money" that didn't win any game sounds wrong to me. If you want to compensate them for showing up then that is fine just call it something else.
Pinoy trash-talking is too hard to take. I wonder where boboka got his IGN.
Gabbi = deserve
#pinoypride 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
hahahahah
Can you get a better guest ty
What guest
Nice! 👍✊