Talking with a MARRIED Catholic Priest (w/ Fr. Dwight Longenecker)

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  • For many people, "married Catholic priest" is going to sound like a bit of an oxymoron. After all, don't Catholic priests have to take a vow of celibacy? In this video, I talk with Fr. Dwight Longenecker, a former Anglican who converted to Roman Catholicism and was ordained into the Roman Catholic priesthood, all while being a husband and father. In this video we explore why the Catholic church allows some married priests, whether the Catholic church will ever reverse their discipline of celibate priesthood, and what it's like to be a married priest. We had a great time, and I hope you enjoy this. I'd love to know in the comments, should the Catholic church allow more married priests, or should priests have to be celibate?
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Komentáře • 417

  • @Chakra_king
    @Chakra_king Před 3 lety +126

    God bless the Holy Priesthood of the Holy Catholic Church!

    • @smokeybirdman
      @smokeybirdman Před 3 lety +1

      Better still let the priest get married 👍

  • @Ann12098
    @Ann12098 Před 3 lety +47

    I’ve been Roman Catholic my entire life and only learned a couple weeks ago that some eastern rite catholic priests can marry! Excited to watch this video and learn more!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +5

      Hope you enjoy it!

    • @petars4444
      @petars4444 Před 3 lety +9

      Yeah, but not after they are ordained if im not mistaken

    • @petars4444
      @petars4444 Před 3 lety +1

      @Charles yeah, thats what I said/thought

    • @nanagaga2001
      @nanagaga2001 Před 3 lety +4

      It's true, eastern orthodox priests may be married but bishops cannot. A married priest can't become a bishop even if his wife has died.

    • @MrJMB122
      @MrJMB122 Před 3 lety

      @@nanagaga2001 you are wrong on that my brother. Are ArcBishop of New York and New Jersey in the OCA is widower.

  • @deirdresversion
    @deirdresversion Před 3 lety +15

    I’m a Catholic revert and I LOVE your videos and passion to understand the faith. I can tell by the comments that you are helping Protestants and Catholics alike, which is SO important because we are one family! ♥️

    • @freshliving4199
      @freshliving4199 Před 2 lety

      Do you think Jesus is a Protestant or a Catholic?

    • @deirdresversion
      @deirdresversion Před 2 lety +4

      @@freshliving4199 That's a good question that you brought up. Jesus' Church was established while He was here on earth. It is known to be the Catholic Church. Jesus did NOT come to establish the Protestant denominations in the 16th century.

  • @jrm_mrj2075
    @jrm_mrj2075 Před 3 lety +34

    I love that we’re getting into this dialogue about Christianity as a whole.

  • @krenomichael1812
    @krenomichael1812 Před 3 lety +19

    It will be a grave mistake for married Priests to become a trend in the Church.

    • @paisley6733
      @paisley6733 Před 3 lety

      Could you explain to me why, if you will.

    • @sujeyofjesus197
      @sujeyofjesus197 Před 3 lety +2

      Your right kreno !

    • @ninodjuras
      @ninodjuras Před 3 lety +3

      @@paisley6733 Their role in vocation is different then us who are fathers and husbands in vocation, in mariage we are mimicking relationship between Christ and his Church, priests are the ones who are engaged in matrimoy with Church and are already fulfilling their vocation. 🙏🏻

    • @paisley6733
      @paisley6733 Před 3 lety

      @@ninodjuras Thank you.

    • @ninodjuras
      @ninodjuras Před 3 lety +1

      @Charles I understand it's not doctrine but it make sense to leave everything for Christ Church, apostles left their families to follow Christ, it makes sense for priests too.

  • @GospelSimplicity
    @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +20

    *RE-UPLOAD*
    So I seem to have forgotten to include the outro in which I mention the sponsor of the video and the upcoming part 2, so unfortunately I had to re-upload this video. That likely means it will get less traction, so if you enjoyed it and want others to see this video, feel free to comment to help it out in the algorithm!

    • @actsapologist1991
      @actsapologist1991 Před 3 lety

      I was about to ask why the first one cut off so short!!
      Anyway, great interview. You asked good questions and Fr. Dwight was really interesting to listen to.

    • @trevorhanlin4247
      @trevorhanlin4247 Před 3 lety

      no worries Austin!

    • @philotheake
      @philotheake Před 3 lety

      Ok Austin ☺️

  • @maryloudancel7914
    @maryloudancel7914 Před 3 lety +39

    Let us all look to the Blessed Mother as the role model for women when it comes to holiness and a role in the Church for the salvation of mankind.

    • @bethr8756
      @bethr8756 Před 2 lety

      She has no role in salvation

  • @iv4135
    @iv4135 Před 3 lety +6

    Austin you are so well spoken! It’s very rare to hear someone talk with purpose and a calm demeanor nowadays, with everybody rushing to get a word in. As an aspiring teacher, it’s nice to see and a good example for me.
    (Oh yea, great video too!!!)

  • @elizabethbeatles
    @elizabethbeatles Před 3 lety +11

    Once you marry and you start your own family you finally see what a commitment that is. I can't imagine that my husband does parish related work .. no wonder celibacy is promoted in Church ... of course that would be a practical reason there are many others too

    • @jotunman627
      @jotunman627 Před 2 lety +2

      True, a priest is a full time job and its pay is not enough for a family.
      They are paid just enough to “provide for the necessities of their life” as well as to donate to charitable causes.
      Catholic priest is one of the lowest income group amongst religious, they have less than half the median salary for men in the United States with a similar level of education (at least 10 years of academic studies)

  • @juanpabloesparza1285
    @juanpabloesparza1285 Před 3 lety +16

    I go to an Anglican Ordinariate, a Anglican-Convert Catholic Church. We have some priests who were married before coming to the Roman Catholic Faith, and they are great people. God Bless the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church. Also, TLM must be brought back.

    • @ohmightywez
      @ohmightywez Před 3 lety

      The Anglican convert parishes are fascinating to me. Do you mind if I ask where your parish is? You don’t need to be specific, just generally speaking.
      I followed one parish in Texas that converted and their path into Union.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +5

      I’ve been meaning to visit an Anglican ordinariate church

    • @bethanyann1060
      @bethanyann1060 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ohmightywez I’m a member of the Ordinariate and I go to the cathedral in Houston, Our Lady of Walsingham. Idk if you’re near Houston or not, but just wanted to chime in :) I love the Ordinariate!

    • @thetruthwithproof8802
      @thetruthwithproof8802 Před 3 lety

      My Favourite Bible verse 👉🏻 Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"). M.atthew 27 : 4 6 ✝️ This was the moment Jesus so called willingly died for our sins ✝️😰🔨😂😂😂 l swear if Jesus P.B.U.H had a mobile 📱 in his hands, he would of dialed 🚓911🚨

    • @ohmightywez
      @ohmightywez Před 3 lety +1

      @@bethanyann1060 That’s such an extraordinary coincidence, because that’s the parish I followed the story about!! 🙂 It’s so nice to be family, isn’t it?
      I actually had the joy of visiting the shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham in England and the Holy House, and the Catholic parish next to the Church of England owned shrine. It was incredibly lovely, moving, touching to feel the faith of all the pilgrims who had been there before.
      What a fascinating and unique journey your parish has had. God bless your congregation and the pastor who had courage. All of you have such a wonderful story.

  • @KristynLorraine
    @KristynLorraine Před 3 lety +7

    Fr. Dwight is the cream of the crop. What a blessing to get to interview him!

  • @Motomack1042
    @Motomack1042 Před 3 lety +13

    Good interview, I read Fr Longenecker's blog page often, he is a good orthodox Catholic priest!

  • @charliek2557
    @charliek2557 Před 3 lety +8

    He has the perfect blend between American and British English

  • @applekae1215
    @applekae1215 Před 3 lety +10

    Waiting for the second part! Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭

  • @christinemarie1621
    @christinemarie1621 Před 3 lety +2

    This is such an awesome interview. I have loved Fr. Dwight's writings for years. Glad you had this opportunity to delve into Christianity with him!!

  • @captainMAE
    @captainMAE Před 3 lety +4

    As always, I walk away from your videos learning more about and appreciating more my Catholic faith. God bless you!

  • @frankk.777
    @frankk.777 Před 3 lety +2

    I really enjoyed the content of this interview and the presentation. Thank you, Austin for putting it up.

  • @GrislyAtoms12
    @GrislyAtoms12 Před 3 lety +5

    At about 12:48 time stamp: Take it up with Pope Benedict! Beautiful!
    Austin, you are such a good interviewer! Too many interviewers want to dominate and control the conversation; they interrupt, or they change the topic too soon, etc. But you let your guests answer with their own answers, in their own way, which is one of the reasons why we are here to begin with.
    Reminds me of the saying that sometimes less is more. FWIW, You would make a great Catholic :)

  • @dawnlapka2433
    @dawnlapka2433 Před 3 lety +3

    Sent this information to my fiance Cesar Augusto David Escobar Calderone. God bless you. Praying for marriage in the Catholic Church. We met doing Mission Volunteer work. He is now in Kansas and I am in Sioux Falls SD. I miss him very much. Hopefully we can get married soon. Engagement has been long and arduous. I told Cesar and my friends that I had to give Cesar up for Lent, in order that we would be closer, and healthier in our relationship later!

  • @SefGonz
    @SefGonz Před 3 lety +11

    Really enjoyed this conversation, and I personally loved knowing a few of the married priests in Greenville where Fr. Longenecker pastors his church. I used to attend his church often! Thanks for the conversation Austin!

  • @saraanic9436
    @saraanic9436 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting talk! I'll be looking out for part 2.

  • @abelmendoza2236
    @abelmendoza2236 Před 3 lety +2

    the questions were really good!

  • @victor382
    @victor382 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m here to help the algorithm grow! Great interview.

  • @lauragomez2987
    @lauragomez2987 Před 3 lety +5

    Austin! Thank you for this video, enjoyed it! Also, I highly highly recommend reading St. John Paul II’s audiences on the Theology of the Body!

  • @jattebaleyos116
    @jattebaleyos116 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you bro for this video it was awesome and informative. I really like your style in interviewing people. Godbless bro

  • @aliceshaletdsouza8252
    @aliceshaletdsouza8252 Před 3 lety +21

    Discipline of priestly Celibacy is Beautiful.
    St Paul Pray for us.
    Christe Eleison

    • @johnjay7255
      @johnjay7255 Před 3 lety

      Is it though? Because the first 12 centuries might disagree

    • @hughmungus9739
      @hughmungus9739 Před 3 lety +3

      @@johnjay7255 This is gonna 3 Part post defending the Church's Discipline (not Doctrine) of Priestly Celibacy in the Latin Rite dispelling the idea that Priestly Celibacy and Continence as a "medieval innovation" or even Gnostic & Manichean in origin by examining the Church Fathers and The Scriptures. ( *Please read all parts if you can, especially the latter two parts* )
      Pt. 1
      Many Western and Several Eastern Fathers make clear:
      1) The preference of celibacy generally as a Holier State in life
      2) The strong preference for even married men to live continent lives in the Priesthood. Please see below and especially the latter half.
      St. Ignatius of Antioch
      If anyone can continue in a state of purity, to the honor of Him who is Lord of the flesh, let him so remain without boasting (Letter to Polycarp 5 [AD 110]).
      St. Justin Martyr
      And many, *both men and women* , who have been Christ’s disciples *from childhood have preserved their purity at the age of sixty and seventy years* ; and I am proud that I could produce such from every race of men and women (First Apology 15 [A.D. 150]).
      Tertullian
      *How many men, therefore, and how many women* , in *Ecclesiastical Orders* , owe *their position to continence* , who have *preferred to be wedded to God* ; who have restored the honor of their flesh, and who have already dedicated themselves as sons of that (future) age, by slaying in themselves the concupiscence of lust, and that whole (propensity) which could not be admitted within Paradise! Whence it is presumable that such as shall wish to be received within Paradise, ought at last to begin to cease from that thing from which Paradise is intact (On Exhortation to Chastity 8 [A.D. 204-212]).
      St. Clement of Alexandria
      Even Paul did not hesitate in one letter to address his consort. The only reason why he did not take her about with him was that it would have been an inconvenience for his ministry. Accordingly, he says in a letter: “Have we not a right to take about with us a wife that is a sister like the other apostles?” But the latter, in accordance with their particular ministry, 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺𝘀𝗲𝗹𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, and took their 𝘄𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮𝘀 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝗱 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝘀 𝘀𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀, that they might be their 𝗳𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄-𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀 in dealing with housewives. I t was through them that the Lord’s teaching penetrated also the women’s quarters without any scandal being aroused (Stromata 3:6:53 [A.D. 202]).
      Eusebius
      I am glad to say we are able to provide teachers and preachers of the word of holiness, free from all ties of life and anxious thoughts. And in our day these 𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗯𝗮𝗰𝘆 that they may have leisure 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀; they have undertaken to bring up not one or two children but a prodigious number, and to educate them in godliness, and to care for their life generally. On the top of all this, if we carefully 𝗲𝘅𝗮𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗺 𝗜 𝗮𝗺 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴, 𝘄𝗲 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝗱 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗹𝘆 𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗯𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺… To this I must refer the student, only warning him that according to the laws of the new covenant the producing of children is certainly not forbidden, but the provisions are similar to those followed by the ancient men of God. “For a bishop,” says the Scripture “must be the husband of one wife.” Yet 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗼𝗰𝗰𝘂𝗽𝗶𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗚𝗼𝗱, 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗿𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗴𝗲 (Church History 1:9 [A.D. 325]).
      Spanish Council of Elvira
      𝗪𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗯𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗼𝗽𝘀, 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘆, 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗯𝗶𝗱𝗱𝗲𝗻 𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗿𝗲𝗹𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗷𝘂𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝘄𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝗲𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗻; 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗱𝗼 𝘀𝗼, 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗯𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗱𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆(Canon 33 [A.D. 305]).
      St. Cyril of Jerusalem
      𝗙𝗼𝗿 𝗶𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗲 𝗛𝗶𝗺 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆, to have come forth from a pure bride-chamber. 𝗙𝗼𝗿 𝗶𝗳 𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘄𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝘂𝗹𝗳𝗶𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗮 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗮𝗯𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝘁𝗵 𝗮 𝘄𝗶𝗳𝗲, 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗛𝗶𝗺𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗳 𝗯𝗲 𝗯𝗼𝗿𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗻? (Catechetical Lectures 12:25 [A.D. 350]).

    • @hughmungus9739
      @hughmungus9739 Před 3 lety +3

      @@johnjay7255 Pt. 2
      St. Epiphanius of Salamis
      𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗖𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗮 𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁 that 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮𝗱𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝗮𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗼𝗱, 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗲, 𝗻𝗼 𝗻𝗼𝗿 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝘂𝗯𝗱𝗶𝗮𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗿𝗲𝗻. She accepts only him who if married gives up his wife or has lost her by death, especially in those places where the ecclesiastical canons are strictly attended to (Panarion [A.D. 376]).
      St. Jerome
      In accordance with this rule Peter and the other Apostles (I must give Jovinianus something now and then out of my abundance) had indeed wives, but those which they had taken before they knew the Gospel. But 𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗴𝗲. For when Peter, representing the Apostles, says to the Lord: Matthew 19:27 Lo we have left all and followed you, the Lord answered him, Luke 18:29-30 Verily I say unto you, there is no man that has left house or wife, or brethren, or parents, or children for the kingdom of God’s sake, who shall not receive manifold more in this time, and in the world to come eternal life (Against Jovinianus 1:26 [A.D. 393]).
      St. Ambrose of Milan
      But ye know that 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗸𝗲𝗽𝘁 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘂𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗼𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗱, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗷𝘂𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲; ye know this, I say, who have received the gifts of the sacred ministry, with 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗼𝗱𝗶𝗲𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘂𝗻𝘀𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘆, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝗻𝗷𝗼𝘆𝗲𝗱 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗷𝘂𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲. I am mentioning this, because in some out-of-the-way places, when they enter on the ministry, or even when they become priests, they have begotten children. They defend this on the ground of old custom, when, as it happened, the sacrifice was offered up at long intervals. However, even the people had to be purified two or three days beforehand, so as to come clean to the sacrifice. As we read in the Old Testament, Exodus 19:10 they even used to wash their clothes. If such regard was paid in what was only the figure, how much ought it to be shown in the reality! 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻, 𝗣𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝗲𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗲, 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘁 𝗺𝗲𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘄𝗮𝘀𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀. 𝗬𝗼𝘂 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿 𝘂𝗽 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 (On the Duties of the Clergy 50:258 [A.D. 391]).

    • @hughmungus9739
      @hughmungus9739 Před 3 lety +3

      @@johnjay7255 Pt.3
      I won't post an entire exegesis but it has to be said Biblical evidence for the discipline of celibacy can be found in both the Old and the New Testaments.
      In the Old, Jeremiah was forbidden by God to take a wife in order to enable him to fulfill his ministry better. “The word of the Lord came to me: ‘You shall not take a wife, nor shall you have sons or daughters in this place'” (Jer. 16:1-2).
      Also in the Old Testament, God asked even married couples to practice celibacy on certain occasions. For example, Moses asked the Israelites to abstain from marital intimacy while he ascended Mount Sinai (Ex. 20:15), and Jewish tradition attests that he remained celibate for life following the command of Exodus 9:15 and Deuteronomy 5:28. The Lord also asked that the priests refrain from sexual relations with their wives during their time of service in the temple. In yet another example, the priests ordered King David and his people to abstain from marital relations on the occasion of eating the holy bread (1 Sam. 21:4).
      In all these instances, there is a theme of abstaining from marital relations due to the presence of something very holy. It is not that the marital act is sinful, but that when one is in such proximity to God, it is right to offer him an undivided mind, heart, and body. If it was fitting under the Old Covenant to serve the temple, to approach God, and receive the holy bread with a consecrated body, it is no surprise that permanent celibacy is fitting for a Roman Catholic priest, since his priestly service is continual.
      In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus states, “Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it” (19:12 NAB). This is an invitation from Christ to live as he did, and there can be nothing unacceptable in that.
      Paul recognized the wisdom in this, and encouraged celibacy in order to free a man to be anxious about the things of the Lord and to serve him undividedly (1 Cor 7:8,32-35). In his words, “To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. . . . I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to please the Lord; but the married man is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided. And the unmarried woman or girl is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit; but the married woman is anxious about worldly affairs, how to please her husband. I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord. . . . he who marries his betrothed does well; and he who refrains from marriage will do better” (1 Cor. 7:8, 32-35, 38).
      God Bless.

    • @methinks8175
      @methinks8175 Před 3 lety

      @@hughmungus9739 tq for such enlightenment

  • @janiejackson234
    @janiejackson234 Před 3 lety +5

    Hey, Austin! Loved this so much. I love the Church’s teaching on sex and celibacy. So happy he emphasized that a vow of celibacy in no way degrades the beauty of marriage and sex but rather uplifts it. Great video. Excited for part two!

  • @konfettii
    @konfettii Před 3 lety

    Great video!

  • @Onniesprairiegarden
    @Onniesprairiegarden Před 3 lety +7

    Great interview! There's a beauty to the discipline of celibacy as St. Paul mentions in scripture. I'm glad Father talked about the importance of Holy Matrimony in the Church!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks!

    • @mreddiegdaly
      @mreddiegdaly Před 3 lety +2

      clergy in the catcholic church are obligated to remain celibate and thus if a member of the clergy enters into wedlock he loses his right to call himself a priest etc . This may change in the future, and if it does I'll except it but for now a married priest is not a priest anymore.

    • @cinta3805
      @cinta3805 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mreddiegdaly exactly! They already made a vow and if they cant do it then leave the priesthood and get married.

    • @Onniesprairiegarden
      @Onniesprairiegarden Před 3 lety +1

      @@mreddiegdaly he didn't enter in matrimony- he was already married and a priest in the Anglican Church. He got permission from Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI to be a priest in the Catholic Church when he converted. This is a special circumstance. If a Catholic priest tried to get married than what you're saying is correct.

    • @Loveisabrilliantlight
      @Loveisabrilliantlight Před 3 lety +2

      Idk something seems inherently evil about this. Most Catholic saints were celibate if not all. This gives us an idea of the importance of celibacy as part of our spiritual life. I have also experienced first hand of what chastity and unchastity can do to the soul. Also satan does not like when a good pastor is taking souls away from him, so what he does? He and his demons will go after the family in order to torment him. A priest doesn’t need this type of distraction. They need time and energy to focus in the faithful. Married priests is just another deception from satan in his attempts to destroy the Catholic Church. Same with ordained women, gay marriages and all types of “modernism.”

  • @charbelyoussef604
    @charbelyoussef604 Před 3 lety +11

    We eastern catholics have married priests, it was prevalent before more than now but it still exists today.

    • @simonbejirundi4950
      @simonbejirundi4950 Před 3 lety

      Yap Eastern Church allows their priest to have a family. This is good example that the priest still can focu their lives to the church. If Catholic Church change the rules might be the problem in the Catholic priest as we see now a days possible can be solved

  • @raprap1977
    @raprap1977 Před 3 lety +2

    Father Dwight just gave me dejavu from christian living class back in elementary school. ❤️🙏🏻

  • @fsnicolas
    @fsnicolas Před 3 lety

    Wow! Another insightful interview! When I got married, I was told that it is actually the liturgy of the would-be spouses, that we would be the ones celebrating the sacrament. But I did not know that even in Catholic theology that the consummation of the marriage is the matter of the sacrament. I learned about that in reading about the Jewish wedding ceremony but I didn't know it was carried over to the sacrament of marriage.
    It's also very good to hear that all the prudishness a lot of us were taught is not really in consonance with Catholic theology on sexuality. It is not that sexuality is dirty or wrong. On the contrary, our sexuality is holy and should be valued and cared for.
    Thanks for this! Looking forward to part 2.

  • @edizzle01
    @edizzle01 Před 3 lety

    I am glad you got to talk to fr longenecker. Please come to greenville and see our parish. You would enjoy seeing the beauty of the church. He would be glad to show you around

  • @simonbejirundi4950
    @simonbejirundi4950 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for this video

  • @muxugrad
    @muxugrad Před 3 lety +2

    Great video! We have a married priest in our diocese who was also a former Anglican priest. I believe that though they are married they can not remarry if their wife passes away. Similar to deacons who are married. Keep up the great work.

  • @borneandayak6725
    @borneandayak6725 Před 3 lety +15

    I'm here to learn and for the algorithm

  • @alja2289
    @alja2289 Před 3 lety

    Waiting for part 2! Greetings from Orthodox Christian

  • @KayElayempea
    @KayElayempea Před 3 lety

    Sometimes you can understand things like marriage and celibacy better when you know the theology behind them. Another good video! I hope it isn't lost to the algorithm!

  • @mathieuconklin3146
    @mathieuconklin3146 Před 3 lety +3

    Idk if you've read Father's book "Immortal Combat" but it is absolutely flooring. Shorter book, maybe 150 pages, HIGHLY recommend. I think everybody in our day and age should read it

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
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      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

    • @mathieuconklin3146
      @mathieuconklin3146 Před 3 lety

      @@bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Be gone spammer

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      That's actually what part 2 is all about!

  • @CrankyGrandma
    @CrankyGrandma Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve been so looking forward to this interview. Now I”m looking forward to part two

  • @thepic12
    @thepic12 Před 3 lety +15

    Another awesome video Austin! I love how Fr. Longenecker spoke about how the Catholic Church believes that sex between a married couple is though if as a beautiful thing! I feel if a married man can really preach the word of God with all his heart and soul then why not! Although he did make a great point about when the church assigns you to another diocese or another part of the world one is easier to pack up and go then 5 or 6. Also if a man hears the calling to serve the Lord and finds a women who also wants to join on that calling then that’s great, but the children may not be all that gunho on the idea of “we have to move and leave all your friends and familiar surroundings because the Bishop called dad and says we have too go! Again Austin I always love your videos! God Bless you!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +2

      All good points! Glad you enjoyed it! God bless you too

    • @leesog3203
      @leesog3203 Před 3 lety +2

      Have you even studied the Catechism of the Catholic Church? What makes you think you can outsmart The Holy Spirit?

    • @MariadeJesus-dt4ql
      @MariadeJesus-dt4ql Před 3 lety +1

      @@leesog3203 i dont think she has read rhe Cathesism of the.church. Very sad

    • @Loveisabrilliantlight
      @Loveisabrilliantlight Před 3 lety +2

      Idk something seems inherently evil about this. Most Catholic saints were celibate if not all. This gives us an idea of the importance of celibacy as part of our spiritual life. I have also experienced first hand of what chastity and unchastity can do to the soul. Also satan does not like when a good pastor is taking souls away from him, so what he does? He and his demons will go after the family in order to torment him. A priest doesn’t need this type of distraction. They need time and energy to focus in the faithful. Married priests is just another deception from satan in his attempts to destroy the Catholic Church. Same with ordained women, gay marriages and all types of “modernism.”

    • @MariadeJesus-dt4ql
      @MariadeJesus-dt4ql Před 3 lety +1

      @@Loveisabrilliantlight i agree with you 100 percent. But Austin is protestant ..he was born protestant and for protestants is difficult to understand the concept of chastity because they do not have the sacraments to live a life of Sanctification. This married priest is part of the apostasy. 99 percent of the Saints in the Catholic church became Saints because of their life of chastity and holiness. They are only two couples married that are Saints...one of them are the parents of St Teresa of Jesus. And of course they had 11 children....sex open for pro creation....100 percent open for God to do His will. That is a marriage living in sanctity.

  • @robertwaguespack9414
    @robertwaguespack9414 Před 3 lety +5

    This is also why we refer to chastity as being according to one's state in life.

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety +1

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
      WhatsApp or call them now on
      +2349046099547
      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

  • @cantrait7311
    @cantrait7311 Před 3 lety

    Interesting, thanks for the video

  • @Lepewhi
    @Lepewhi Před 3 lety +22

    Eastern Rite Catholic parishes have married priests. It's just the Latin Rite priests that are normally unmarried.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      True!

    • @Melvin_Thoma
      @Melvin_Thoma Před 3 lety +1

      But there are Eastern Catholic churches that have celibate priests. I'm SyroMalabar Catholic and all our priests are celibate. We don't have married priests.

    • @stjohnssoup
      @stjohnssoup Před 3 lety

      Scripture says celibacy is a gift/grace from God and also forbidding of marriage is a doctrine of demons so it's praying to God and seeking His will for us.

  • @theorthodoxcatholic9259
    @theorthodoxcatholic9259 Před 3 lety +12

    This was great to see! I am an Eastern Catholic discerning the Married priesthood. I've been called a heretic way too many times! It's great to have support like this video :)

    • @Maskedlapis64
      @Maskedlapis64 Před 3 lety +6

      I am so sorry others have called you a heretic brother! It gives me sorrow that some have not been models of Christ as they ought have. Praying for your vocation

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      Sorry to hear about your experience! Glad you enjoyed the video

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety +5

      God bless you, I’m a married EC discerning the Diaconate. You are certainly no heretic, it just takes time to breach the Roman echo chamber after centuries of making celibacy synonymous with priesthood, and marriage synonymous with the laity. I support the Roman discipline as proper to their tradition (so long as they keep it out of our tradition), however the polarization of marriage and priesthood has certainly caused some unfortunate sacramental misunderstandings by most in the Latin Rite.

    • @Maskedlapis64
      @Maskedlapis64 Před 3 lety +3

      @@michaelbracelin9550 Totally agree. Praying for your discernment as well!

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Maskedlapis64 thank you brother. God bless

  • @Subeffulgent
    @Subeffulgent Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent video keep up the good work you're on your way to something 😆 I couldn't figure out what to say right there

  • @stevenroberts3148
    @stevenroberts3148 Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome video Austin!

  • @masterchief8179
    @masterchief8179 Před 3 lety +20

    Very nice video! I think the married Anglican priests coming to the fullness of Catholic faith are really a blessing! What a nice man Fr Longenecker is! But I feel many theologians or even high members of Church hierarchy think celibacy for priests is a true spiritual gift that shouldn’t be abandoned once and for all. That’s the exact opinion of Pope Francis (by the way). And that’s the opinion of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and Robert Cardinal Sarah, an African Cardinal, in their book “From the Depths of Our Hearts: Priesthood, Celibacy and the Crisis of the Catholic Church”. A must read, actually.
    Well, it is possible for a priest to be an effective and a great one being married, but being a real spiritual father, in the deepest sense, and not being divided (if he has wife and kids) seems hard if not impossible. St Paul says that. He can be great but he will be divided eventually (at least in specific cases or necessities) even if his wife is very lovely, calm, easygoing, etc - and things and people consecrated to God should at best scenarium not be divided. That’s a discipline, so in my opinion only in case by case logics the Church should make exceptions (as Fr Longenecker said). Also, some think that in the Eastern Catholic ‘sui iuris’ churches and in Eastern Orthodoxy churches every priest is married simply because there is this possibility, which is entirely false. That’s maybe a thing more common if we dig into the Western mind reasoning about the Eastern rites conveniently, as if used like a scape route for marriage. But to be fair, that’s not how Easterners do it. Because if you see things really well and attentively, Eastern bishops are celibate (necessarily). Every Patriarch, Eparch, Archeparch, Exarch, Archexarch, Metropolitan Bishop and even the smaller diocesan bishop in EO or in Eastern Catholicism is a celibate (but people maybe don’t even know about it). And the presbyters, who can be married according to the Eastern discipline (married men can be priests, but priests cannot marry if they were ordained before marriage) are taken in the most high appreciation if they are celibate. Celibacy is considered a very high honor. Even the Catechism says something about it:
    1580. _”In the Eastern Churches a different discipline has been in force for many centuries: while bishops are chosen solely from among celibates, married men can be ordained as deacons and priests. This practice has long been considered legitimate; these priests exercise a fruitful ministry within their communities. Moreover, priestly celibacy is held in great honor in the Eastern Churches and many priests have freely chosen it for the sake of the Kingdom of God. In the East as in the West a man who has already received the sacrament of Holy Orders can no longer marry”_ (Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 1580).
    That being said, I sense the Catholic Church does it right to consider particularities that maybe will make her decide wisely when (and/or how) the ecclesiastical discipline of celibacy for priests should be excepted (like the Ordinariate). Always case by case, without abandoning ‘tout court’ the general discipline for the Roman Church, which has been a real honor and blessing for almost two thousand of years in many regions of the world, let alone the missionary aspect about which Fr. Longenecker talked very accurately.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing these thoughts!

    • @e.a.c.2175
      @e.a.c.2175 Před 3 lety +1

      As a former Catholic convert to Orthodoxy, I find married priests more effective because they can speak to my experience as a married wife with children. I find Matushkas (priests wives) to be equal participants in the community, just in the background. Their love for their husband and children strengthen them and the whole parish. Their prayers help, not hinder, the spiritual journey. I love celibate priests too, especially in missionary situations like Saint Paul was in...but there's definitely not one way to become holy nor one way to be a good priest ☦️

    • @masterchief8179
      @masterchief8179 Před 3 lety +4

      @@e.a.c.2175 Sister, contrary to what you said or implied, St Paul was NOT addressing (in the chapter 7 of the 1st Epistle to the Corinthians) that “missionary priests” should not get married, meaning he would feel it is indifferent for priests in established communities to be married. St Paul was in mission himself, but not the ones to whom he was addressing. To take a text out of its context is to go for a pretext, as we say here in my country. Actually St Paul was specifically talking about marriage, sexual sins, continence and celibacy. There is a defense of higher dignity of celibacy in serving the Lord through the Church, but that does NOT mean that Holy Orders or even a religious life lived by non-ordained people (ex: monks) is a more dignified and graceful way to praise and glorify the Lord than the divinatory vocation for marriage; it really means that, when serving God directly through the ecclesiastical service (= as clerics), it is better to be a celibate than not. I understand your arguments, but those were NOT the ones St. Paul made. Actually St Paul was preaching the exact contrary: he was talking those words specifically to a established community, not to missionaries like St Titus or St Timothy, for example, who would go themselves for converting missions and were instituted as bishops by St Paul (of Crete and of Ephesus respectively).
      I respect your past and present experiences in Russian Orthodoxy, sister, lamenting for maybe a bad catechesis in the Catholic Church (did you convert from Catholic to Orthodox directly or first were you an atheist or a Protestant and then Orthodox?) but for the majority of the faithful the most important things about the priesthood have relation to the real effects of how the priest can shepherd his community to God’s path and help their processes of salvation and sanctification. I am a married man myself and I think it is true that if a priest is married, then he theoretically could be a greater advisor in anything related to tensions between spouses. But actually this is a very shallow perspective of the priesthood and I see it as a typical claim of modernity: many people are not really wanting a priest to minister the deep sacramental dimension of our life in Christ Jesus but to receive counsels as a psychologist or a psychoanalyst would give us in therapy. That’s a very serious and fair criticism that even our Protestant brothers admit about some of their pastors. I am not saying that is your case, much less making a comparison between Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy, please, but I beg to differ on the oversimplification of the assimilation of priesthood and “counseling“. I understand it would be great if my Roman Catholic priest could understand more of the dynamics of a marital relationship, but much more important than that is 1) to not reduce the knowing on what to advice in the SPIRITUAL dimension of marriage to the practicalities of it, day-by-day, and most of all 2) the undoubted majority of the Roman Catholic faithful, specially Catholic women, wouldn’t feel as comfortable (there are surveys on this or at least I think so) to go to CONFESSION with a married priest, specially when they have to confess sexual sins or sins directly related to their marriage. I will assume that you are assiduous to the sacraments, inclusive the sacrament of confession (or reconciliation or penance) and therefore you would know for a fact what I really mean here. Yet I understand perfectly you being sympathetic to the experiences you chose to live after converting - as you said - to Eastern Orthodoxy. Again, a Baptist friend of mine used with me exactly that argument about the pastor’s wife being active in the community as a proof for the pastor not being really “divided”, but he acknowledged further the problems it can put the priest/pastor in some cases, let alone all other concrete realities, then he ended up agreeing that St Paul was clear about his recommendation and deferential to what he called a “wisdom” of the Catholic Church. Either way, I have nothing but respect for your opinion, which is the same of my Protestant friend.
      Just for you to know, in 2002, a ridiculously high number of 91% (!) of Greek Orthodox priests in the USA were married and there was in fact a very concrete difficulty to find bishops to ordain among celibate priests, who were kind of rare over there (Eastern Orthodox bishops, just like Eastern Catholic bishops, are necessarily celibate). That anomaly, let me put this way, reinforces the impression that this Eastern discipline, specially in non-Catholic Orthodoxy, maybe is (or was) getting to be indeed a “scape route” to marriage for people that think they can only serve the Church effectively if being priests, which is very limiting and contrary to the profound aspects of ecclesiology:
      www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/04/27/orthodox-priests-have-the-option/b095af1d-9c4f-4e2a-af79-fb0cb83fd1b3/
      You know, the culture makes a lot of pressure on priest celibacy, but should the Church simply give it up to the culture surrounding? Of course the Church has to be attentive. There is no doubt that these issues are disciplinary norms of the Church (and not a dogma) both for Westerners and Easterners, but I would say there is - frankly - a very good case in the Bible for celibate in serving God through ecclesial service and, even though missionary priests are a good argument for celibacy due to pragmatic reasons, it is simply not true that St Paul was talking to the Corinthians in 1 Cor 7, 32-37 about “missionary priests”. So the strong biblical argument stands up there too, not only the more pragmatic ones.
      Greetings from Brazil.

    • @anitastar1253
      @anitastar1253 Před 3 lety

      @@e.a.c.2175 Yes, I can see how they would be more effective empathetic leaders to families and women. I hope that catholics do change in the future to allow this more often.

    • @bethr8756
      @bethr8756 Před 2 lety

      But obviously the priest DON'T have the gift of celibacy!! Hello

  • @nicholasmontgomery3463
    @nicholasmontgomery3463 Před 3 lety +2

    I would love it if you found a Catholic priest of of one of the Eastern Catholic Churches to interview!

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      Working on it!

    • @villentretenmerthjackdaw4205
      @villentretenmerthjackdaw4205 Před 3 lety

      @@GospelSimplicity If you can Fr. Father Hezekias Carnazzo, is an Amazing Eastern Catholic Priest who runs "The Institute of Catholic Culture" he'd be amazing to interview.

  • @halleylujah247
    @halleylujah247 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for bringing him on I love his perspective. I appreciate Fr. Longenecker perspective in general. Also Algorithms.....should we fight them and therefore fight the man or embrace them and fight the man with our overwhelming numbers

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      I feel like to fight them I’d have to know how they work, and they’re all one big mystery to me. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ggarza
    @ggarza Před 3 lety +5

    Great interview with Fr. Dwight! Can’t wait for pt. 2!

  • @11antun
    @11antun Před 3 lety

    thank you

  • @Jordan-1999
    @Jordan-1999 Před 3 lety

    Austin, do you believe that Roman Catholicism/Eastern Catholicism as a Church and practice is the oldest/continual ongoing Christian church/practice to date?
    And do you also believe that Orthodoxy is equally as old as Catholicism, not necessarily as a organised Church, but rather as an ongoing practice itself?
    Thanks

  • @michaelkunitz3411
    @michaelkunitz3411 Před 3 lety +11

    Gospel Simplicity, I’ve enjoyed watching your content and am pleased to see you exploring this aspect of the Catholic Church. Fr. Dwight Longenecker’s account is certainly apt in describing the issues of the married priesthood in the Roman Catholic Church, but it bears noting that there is much more to the Married Priesthood in the Catholicism. While certainly a married priest is exceptional to find in the Roman Catholic Church, every other Eastern Catholic Church in Union with Rome has ordained married men to the order of the priesthood since apostolic times. In many of these Churches, married priests are the norm in parish life, not the exception. Perhaps you could do another video interviewing a married Eastern Catholic Priest (Byzantine, Ukrainian, Melkite, or Maronite Catholics are plentiful in the United States), or even do a segment on the Eastern Catholic Churches in general. This would give a much fuller perspective on the issue of married Priests and the Catholic Church as a whole. Thank you for your content and I look forward to seeing your next video.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +6

      Great point! Hoping to do a tour and interview with an Eastern Catholic priest soon

    • @hkjykjhk
      @hkjykjhk Před 3 lety

      You have not read well, a married man can enter priesthood but a priest can not marry in eastern orthodox, also eastern ortodox already permit contraception and divorce, There has never been an official decree toward priests marrying in any church,

    • @michaelkunitz3411
      @michaelkunitz3411 Před 3 lety +1

      @@hkjykjhk I very carefully use the phrase "has ordained married men to the order of the priesthood " to denote that a priest does not get married, but it is a married man who may be ordained a priest. Literally no other issue you've noted is even discussed here. Did you perhaps reply to the wrong comment?

  • @johnflorio3052
    @johnflorio3052 Před 3 lety +9

    The Catholic Church has many rites and most rites permit married priests. However, we must respect the discipline of celibacy in the largest rite, the Latin Rite. A celibate priest better reflects the life of Jesus.

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety +2

      In one way he reflects the life of Jesus, but that does not diminish the goodness, equality, and value of the married priest. Therefore you cannot say he is a “better” reflection, it’s just a reflection. Celibacy is a higher calling, but it’s not doctrine for a reason, and married priests are not an exception theologically speaking. A man does not make a better priest, nor reflect the life of Jesus, simply by virtue of being celibate. According to Ignatius I believe, the deacon is in the person of Jesus Christ the servant; perhaps the RCC should focus more on building a priests understanding of Diakonia rather than putting it all on celibacy as well. Instead they do this aberration called the “transitional diaconate” where a major aspect his being in the person of Jesus Christ the servant is glossed over. Sad really.
      Also, the size of the Latin church does not in any way mean that the disciplines of the Latin Church are superior to the other Sui Iuris churches (of which would be sizable if not for the tragedy of the schism). The Latin Church has its practice, that is fine. So long as the Latin Church gives equal respect (size of rite means nothing) to the other traditions then all is good.

  • @palsenka5755
    @palsenka5755 Před 3 lety +3

    I am from Croatia - very Catholic country - please explain to everyone about being a DEACON in a Catholic church -and to compare do ortodox priest could be married just as a parishener not as Bishops, being a Deacon -must to be married.

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
      WhatsApp or call them now on
      +2349046099547
      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

  • @csoup223
    @csoup223 Před 3 lety

    I would just add that while I thought Fr. Longenecker did an excellent job discussing why celibacy likely isn't going anywhere, it is worth noting (perhaps again, as I'm sure someone has already mentioned it) that in the Eastern branches of the Catholic Church, priests regularly are married. While I'm happily Roman, the Catholic Church is bigger than just the Roman Catholic Church, and that's a beautiful thing!

  • @jmjaquinas7298
    @jmjaquinas7298 Před 3 lety +3

    Great interview! Love Fr Longnecker!

  • @AlexSaavy
    @AlexSaavy Před 3 lety +3

    This was another great video. But the comments by some Catholics here that do not seem to know that their own church allows married priests that are not Roman Rite priests is really sad. They also don’t seem to know that celibacy was a made a definite rule on the 12th century.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety

      I've been a bit surprised by that myself

    • @masterchief8179
      @masterchief8179 Před 3 lety +2

      But maybe that’s not their fault or simply a matter of poor catechetical teaching.
      Eastern Catholics are only 18 millions in the world and almost 10 millions of them are from the Greek Ukranian Catholic Church; but Roman Catholics are estimated around 1,2 to 1,3 BILLION. That’s a percentage of 97-98% of Roman Catholics to 3-2% of Eastern Catholics. So the Catholics tend to assimilate the Latin discipline as the rule or parameter. That’s understandable, I think.
      Make the numbers. No other Christian institution (let me use that language) complied with more seriousness the missionary commandment of Our Lord Jesus to convert and make disciples of all nations. And it wasn’t the Easterners who made the real, real difference here (with all due respect and admiration they inspire us). Other denominations - let me put this way - combined do not come even close in the works of charity throughout the world, if compared to the Catholic Church, specially in the poorest among the poor or the most excluded among the excluded. Again, the extreme large part of it was accomplished by the Western Church to be very sincere. So that does not make necessarily “unfair” if people see the Roman/Latin Church, that was always seen as the “Apostolic See” from the beginnings and the prominent authority, as the rule and metrics for these understandings. Taking the four largest Catholic countries in the world in absolute population (Brazil, Mexico, Philippines and United States of America), the proportions of Latin Catholics and Eastern Catholics are higher than 99% Latin Catholics to 1% Eastern Catholics.

    • @AlexSaavy
      @AlexSaavy Před 3 lety

      @@masterchief8179 I get it. Bad catechized Catholics is the fault of the clergy starting with the bishops. But some of these comments are just straight up uncharitable.

    • @masterchief8179
      @masterchief8179 Před 3 lety

      @@AlexSaavy I agree.

  • @christiancannady2678
    @christiancannady2678 Před 9 měsíci

    This Mormon to Catholic theology nerd likes this video.

  • @SaintCharbelMiracleworker

    The Catholic priesthood is descended from the priesthood of Melchizedek. Eastern Catholicism always had married priests (no married bishops).

    • @trevorhanlin4247
      @trevorhanlin4247 Před 3 lety +1

      OH! I have one for this. There actually is a history of married bishops (well outside Peter, we all know that one right?)
      To preface this I in no way mean to say that it is the norm today nor should it be. but for several centuries it was commonplace, so much so it even made its way into the bible. 1 Timothy 3:1-13
      There have also been times of "emergencies" where married men who were already priests were made bishops. most of these men were ordained by martyrs and become so themselves with their wifes and families. (I have heard stories of this happening as recently as the 1930's in communist countries)
      The norms and cannon law are clear on the no married bishops, but this is also technically a discipline. I hope that talk of a married priesthood in the latin rite does not spread to the office of bishop. While I see great value in a priesthood that has both married and celibate men I feel the bishops should be prepared to take up that cross of martyrdom should they be called. Priest are bound to this by a lesser extent, but the bishop should always take a stand.
      Sometimes I wish the bishops would be more bold and take a stand on many things...

    • @SaintCharbelMiracleworker
      @SaintCharbelMiracleworker Před 3 lety +2

      @@debrawehrly6900 Child abuse scandals are unrelated to celibacy.

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SaintCharbelMiracleworker not directly related, however if the clergy was mostly married they would have not stood for the abuse the way many celibates ignored it. No way that happens with a bunch of mad priests that are also biological fathers. Abusers would be rooted out real fast with a bunch of dads on their tail!

    • @trevorhanlin4247
      @trevorhanlin4247 Před 3 lety

      @@debrawehrly6900 Sadly the subjects of abuse and pedophilia are not ones that are solved so easily. They originate from the fallen nature of humanity and thus can be found in any human organization.
      With regards to the Catholic Church I think there are a few things that make it a big issue, that these men are in positions of trust and power, that they represent Jesus, that the organization they work for (the Church) is here to stay and is very prominent in the world, and lastly because the devil will work his ways and find weaknesses to exploit in all of us.
      If a protestant church's pastor does these things the church closes or he is kicked out and is seen as a personal failure, in the Catholic Church the responsibility (rightly) falls on the magisterium to care for the individual abused and to correct past wrongs.
      I think the Church has done a great job in changing it's policies to better protect not only children but all people in the church. I feel that they can do more but I see that changes keep coming and the church is at least as good as the average institution if not a bit better. I will keep pushing them to right past wrongs and resolve to not allow any more to occur, but priestly celibacy is not the cause, nor is married priests soution

    • @albertaowusu3536
      @albertaowusu3536 Před 3 lety

      @@debrawehrly6900 ?

  • @marpop4056
    @marpop4056 Před 3 lety +2

    Throughout this discussion, both you and Fr Dwight focused only on the Western/Roman Catholic Church, and ignored the fact that the 23 Eastern Catholic Churches have always had married priests. These sui juris - self-governing - churches are within the Catholic Communion and include Melkite Catholics (Syria & Egypt), Ukrainian Catholics, Ruthenian Catholics (Subcarpathian Mountain region), Syro-Malabar Catholics (India), Maronite Catholics (Lebanon), Chaldean Catholics (Iraq), etc. That said, when Catholics belonging to these churches began immigrating to the US in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, there was a problem that Roman Catholics didn't know about married priests. The Bishop of Minneapolis, instead of asking for education of parishioners, wrote to the pope, who ordered the married priests to return with their wives and families to Europe. For about century, these churches in the US had only celibate priests, while in Europe they continued to ordain married men. That has changed starting in the 1990s, and I've attended church with married priests in both Ukrainian and Melkite parishes. Note that married men in all 24 of the Catholic Churches may be ordained priests, priests cannot after ordination marry. Thus, once an unmarried man is ordained deacon, he cannot marry, and a married priest whose wife dies cannot remarry. I believe that's the case for Roman Catholic married priests as well. I know that there were some Anglican priests in Canada who couldn't be ordained as Catholic priests because they had previously divorced and remarried.

  • @marphilalberto8931
    @marphilalberto8931 Před 3 lety +4

    Another interesting content!

  • @lol-id1dl
    @lol-id1dl Před 3 lety +4

    St Paul in the new testament gave the advice of celibacy to men and women. It is biblical. Our Lord also talked about it.

    • @marpop4056
      @marpop4056 Před 3 lety

      Elsewhere St Paul said that bishops must be the husband of only one wife (1 Tim 3:2).

    • @stjohnssoup
      @stjohnssoup Před 3 lety

      Paul also said forbidding of marriage is a teaching of devils, so it's clear we should pray to God and He will lead us by His Holy Spirit.

  • @HerotPM
    @HerotPM Před 3 lety

    I'm kind of surprised he is not part of the Anglican Ordinariate, which is a special sub-rite of the Roman Catholic Church for former Anglicans with a very traditional liturgy in the style of Ancient Anglo-Catholic traditions, most of which actually predate the Anglican rebellion from the Church. It's a quickly growing sub-rite and has a lot of appeal for those who like the more traditional liturgy like the TLM but who either don't have that available or prefer a language they can understand.

  • @PirateKnO
    @PirateKnO Před 2 lety +1

    RC here, priests in Catholic church are all married to God, they actually wear a wedding ring, celebacy is not a dogma, actually celebacy was only put to practice as vow since the 8th century.

  • @blakemasterson8590
    @blakemasterson8590 Před 3 lety +1

    Women have a special role in the church it’s to be religious nuns and it’s an amazing role within the church ..

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
      WhatsApp or call them now on
      +2349046099547
      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

  • @krenomichael1812
    @krenomichael1812 Před 3 lety +4

    The Priest is married to the church, if Priests are married, is it not polygny?

    • @hei7586
      @hei7586 Před 3 lety +1

      It's not sacramental, is it?

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety

      The notion of Priests “married” to the church is figurative language, theologically expounded upon and made normative after celibacy became compulsory in the Latin Rite (alone). The only sacramental marriage is between and man and a woman and has no literal mirror. Comparing/contrasting the two, or saying it’s “polygamy,” is simply not making the necessary distinctions in your sacramental understanding between what is Roman theological development and what is actually Catholic theology. Hence, discipline vs doctrine. This is a good example of how Roman’s impose their own theological practices/disciplines on the entire Catholic Church and try to pass it off as doctrine.

  • @caritamundo9316
    @caritamundo9316 Před 3 lety +2

    In my country, the Philippines, we have Christian sect that is very similar to Anglicanism, we call them Aglipayan. Their priests are married people and they have similar theology to the Catholic church, as well as their devotions and practices except that they don't believed in the authority of the Catholic church and they don't have celibacy.

  • @kellysuggs2424
    @kellysuggs2424 Před 3 lety +5

    Part 1 was great. Looking forward to part 2.

  • @hemsty2
    @hemsty2 Před 3 lety

    where is the second meeting with Fr Longnecker please?

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      It comes out on Wednesday. The premiere notice is up😁

    • @hemsty2
      @hemsty2 Před 3 lety

      @@GospelSimplicity great thanks I’ll definitely watch. Thank you for helping me to learn more about my faith. I just wish and pray that one day you will find it possible to join us :)

  • @kragar4
    @kragar4 Před 2 lety

    Where is part 2? I can’t find it

  • @HannahHirang
    @HannahHirang Před 3 lety +1

    Why do I have a certain feeling that Gospel Simplicity came to be particularly so that you can come home to Catholicism, Austin? 🙈 Anyway, thank you for all you do and I'm thrilled about all the things the Lord will still reveal to you ✨

  • @verenice2656
    @verenice2656 Před 3 lety +3

    Can’t wait to see the second part to this video. 😉

  • @simonbejirundi4950
    @simonbejirundi4950 Před 3 lety

    I pray that our x Catholic priest who got married can come back to church as a married priest. We had a good priest but they chose to get married and after they got married they can't practice their duty as a Catholic priest

  • @Chandransingham
    @Chandransingham Před 3 lety +2

    Very helpful. Thanks. Only today I was reading Tom Holland's Shadow of the Sword. In one chapter he gives a narrative of Simeon the stylite. See p's 217, 219, 221, 267. What Fr Dwight didn't mention is there is written document called Anglican Ordinariate. Applicable to Episcopals in the USA. It's case by case basis done in Rome.

  • @mcspankey4810
    @mcspankey4810 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes yes

  • @amandah8178
    @amandah8178 Před 3 lety +2

    This is my algorithm comment! And another opportunity to say, “Great work!”

  • @hei7586
    @hei7586 Před 3 lety

    In Germany there are married converted priests, too.

    • @masterchief8179
      @masterchief8179 Před 3 lety

      Yes, in conversions from the Lutheran National German Church.
      It started in the 60s and the 70s when some of the Lutheran clergy asked the Holy See, after converting to the Catholic faith, to maintain their priesthood. So the Catholic Church validated their ordination (which is null, since it lacks the note of “apostolicity”) and generously accepted some who requested it, case by case.

  • @davidus9702
    @davidus9702 Před 3 lety +2

    Random comment to help out with the CZcams algorithm.

  • @jjuukojjuuko4730
    @jjuukojjuuko4730 Před 3 lety +1

    *Please make it more Clear to us!*
    Is he a Married Catholic Priest of the *Celestial Church⛪* that is to say, "(RCC) / of Peter the Rock🥊 Foundation," *OR* a Married Catholic Priest generally!?"

    • @hailmary9948
      @hailmary9948 Před 3 lety

      This video is not good. Its Misleading . Its Not RCC. Austin stated, he is a Protestant. He blocked me to answer him back. Not good sign, if he stated , he was open to learn....

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety

      I actually never blocked you😁. I am a Protestant, Fr. Dwight is a Catholic priest in the Latin Rite

    • @jjuukojjuuko4730
      @jjuukojjuuko4730 Před 3 lety

      @@GospelSimplicity
      *JESUS, WE STAND FOR THEE!*
      Amen 🙏.

    • @jjuukojjuuko4730
      @jjuukojjuuko4730 Před 3 lety

      @@hailmary9948
      *JESUS, IN YOU WE TRUST!*
      AMEN 🙏.

    • @hailmary9948
      @hailmary9948 Před 3 lety

      @@GospelSimplicity
      Really, Im glad.....
      there is No married Priest in The Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church . Imposible. Maybe in the deepchurch, over there anything is possible, darkness like in the deepstate.
      Jesus built The Catholic Church and gave Peter The Keys.
      Read History, there is infiltration in The Church to destroy it from wirhin, communists and masons/ freemasons planned it.
      At The end The Immaculate Heart of Mary will Triumph and crushed the plans and head of satan. God gave that Role to His Queen Mother.
      Read, reach and interview
      Fathers of Mercy- Fr Wade Menezes.
      MIC Father of Divine Mercy Fr Chris Alar
      USGRACEFORCE.COM
      Fr Richard Heilman,
      Fr Altier, Fr Alrman, Cardenal Burke, Bishop Schneider, Read Pope Benedict XVI teachings, books. St Pope John Paul II...etc. The Catholic Church is Holy. The members mere creatures, sinners seeking daily conversion towards holiness , Jesus gave us The Sacraments. The Real Presence of Jesus in The Eucharist , Jesus promised He will never leave us alone..., He is in The Roman Catholic Church..
      www.therealpresence.org/
      🙏❤🕊💒🕊❤🙏

  • @myronmercado
    @myronmercado Před 3 lety +2

    That video was just so amazing. Part 2 please! Catholic wives please listen and don't deny your husbands without reason that beautiful gift of union that is the source of God's grace. Seriously. To reject that union rejects God too.

    • @myronmercado
      @myronmercado Před 3 lety

      @@debrawehrly6900 I hope you watched the video, the part where the ring is not the form of the sacrament but the consummation of the marriage.

    • @debrawehrly6900
      @debrawehrly6900 Před 3 lety

      @@myronmercado where did this idea come from?

    • @myronmercado
      @myronmercado Před 3 lety

      @@debrawehrly6900 you're supposed to watch the video.

  • @bro.melchannel4815
    @bro.melchannel4815 Před 3 lety +1

    Yes they are some married Catholic Priest.
    Most of them are priest from Schismatic Group like Orthodox, anglican and other Group with apostolic Succesion.
    Their Priestly Ordination was Valid so the Magisterium has to Honor it when they reverted to Catholic Church.

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
      WhatsApp or call them now on
      +2349046099547
      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

  • @johnjay7255
    @johnjay7255 Před 3 lety

    Did I misunderstand, but is there a 2nd part?

  • @PrometheanKitchen96
    @PrometheanKitchen96 Před 3 lety +2

    You should do a video on the Divine liturgy and the Traditional Latin Mass

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety

      As in a comparison? I have individual videos on the two

    • @theorthodoxcatholic9259
      @theorthodoxcatholic9259 Před 3 lety +1

      @@GospelSimplicity That would be really cool if you made a comparison! Not a "Which is better" but a video on the ways that they're similar.
      i.e. I think I've heard that the Altar rail is a 'modernized' version of the Iconostasis

    • @trevorhanlin4247
      @trevorhanlin4247 Před 3 lety

      @@theorthodoxcatholic9259 I believe both are modernized from the jewish temple!

  • @sam.santos27
    @sam.santos27 Před 3 lety

    Merch link isn't working 😞

  • @FinalLugiaGuardian
    @FinalLugiaGuardian Před 2 lety

    Perhaps a good rule of discipline is to alow maried men to become priests. However, perhaps the celibacy rule could be maintained for bishops.
    I.E. A married man can be a priest, but, so long as he's married, he can never become a bishop.

  • @actsapologist1991
    @actsapologist1991 Před 3 lety +19

    This comment is for the algorithm. FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!

    • @CrankyGrandma
      @CrankyGrandma Před 3 lety +3

      For the Algorithm!

    • @halleylujah247
      @halleylujah247 Před 3 lety +10

      I really disagree with your statement on algorithms and this is my 5 bulletpoints why.
      1. Algorithms are hard to spell.
      2. Math is hard
      3. Greek
      4. Some philosophical reason
      5. The word algorithm is not in the Bible.
      Have a nice day.😁

    • @actsapologist1991
      @actsapologist1991 Před 3 lety +4

      @@halleylujah247 I will take your criticism to heart.

    • @kellysuggs2424
      @kellysuggs2424 Před 3 lety +4

      😂😂😂. I love this community

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +3

      You’re the best!😂

  • @maryemilysmiley6146
    @maryemilysmiley6146 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks, Austin. I would add to Father's synopsis that in the Latin (aka Roman Rite) celibacy is a discipline, while in the eastern rite part of Roman Catholicism a married man is allowed to become a priest. Celibacy was made mandatory in 1075 by Gregory VII. Part of this was practical in that when a priest died it was not uncommon for disputes to arise between the congregation and the parish as to owned what property, the family or the parish. Also most parish priests are secular or as they are now called diocesan. Men who join orders (Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits and the like) either as brothers or priests take vows of celibacy, obedience and poverty. A secular priest does not take a vow of poverty, but does take vows of chastity and obedience. Thus a secular priest may receive a gift, or money from a book etc. while priests and brothers in orders own in community only. Remember St. Peter and the apostles were married, but the church, following St. Paul ---at least in the Latin Rite has endorsed and finally mandated celibacy in 1075. Looking forward to the second half.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Před 3 lety

      In the Eastern Catholic Churches (at least of the Byzantine tradition ) a man must be married before his ordination

    • @maryemilysmiley6146
      @maryemilysmiley6146 Před 3 lety

      @@briandelaney9710 Yes. I noted that saying a married man may become a priest in the Eastern Rite. I should have clearly stated a single male who takes Holy Orders may not subsequently marry. Thanks.

    • @brunot2481
      @brunot2481 Před 3 lety

      Mary, it is true that mandatory celibacy went on to be approved only in 1075 by a papal decree. But that does not make it to be “created” as a discipline only in the 11th century. Not at all.
      Actually, it can be argued that the Catholic Church, bothered by the result of the Great Schism in 1054, tried to define it as an identity for the West in detriment of the Eastern practices. Unfortunately, political matters cannot be underestimated in all of ecclesiastical history and this could be argued as one of the terrible consequences of the schism: that the West made it mandatory just as a way to consolidate the differences from the Eastern practices.
      But the antiquity of this as a practice traces back to apostolic times. Evidences for it are very, very strong. But as far as a formal normative discipline goes, the most ancient event is the Council of Elvira (304-305 AD), held in Roman province of Hispania/Spain (a regional, not an ecumenical council). It reads:
      _”We decree that all bishops, priests and deacons in the service of the ministry are entirely forbidden to have conjugal relations with their wives and to beget children; should anyone do so, let him be excluded from the honour of the clergy”_ .
      The same would happen in the First Council of Aries (314 AD), considered to be a sort of General Council of the West. It was held in the Roman province of Galia/France. Its Canon 29 reads as follows:
      _”Moreover, (concerned with) what is worthy, pure, and honest, we exhort our brothers (in the episcopate) to make sure that priests and deacons have no (sexual) relations with their wives, since they are serving the ministry every day. Whoever will act against this decision, will be deposed from the honour of the clergy”_ .
      The way they were written suggests the practice of celibacy was not an innovation. Those (regional) Councils were preoccupied with the maintenance, not with the introduction of this practice. More so, papal decretals of the fourth century indicate the solid antiquity of the rule for all the West: “Directa” (385) and “Cum in unum” (386) of Pope St Siricius, for example, prove that the Apostolic and Petrine See (Rome) treated it to be immemorial and traceable even to apostolic times, although Rome never defined - until 1075 - the practice as a mandatory discipline.
      So we should be attentive to not induce others to believe - wrongly - that mandatory celibacy was a “medieval invention” or, even worse, to imply it was adopted due to the financial greed of the Catholic Church. That villainization is very common in some low-level anti-Catholic apologetics, so maybe we should not give counter-historical theories more credit than it is due.
      A good study for this was made by the Secretary of the Apostolic Exarch for Ukrainian Catholics in Great Britain, Roman Cholij, in his “Priestly celibacy in patristics and in the history of the Church”. Just for you to know, the Ukrainian Catholic Church is one of the highest in number of faithful (if not the largest) among the “sui iuris” autonomous churches in full communion with the Petrine See. Check it if you’d like, sister:
      www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cclergy/documents/rc_con_cclergy_doc_01011993_chisto_en.html
      Hope you enjoy the readings, Mary!

    • @maryemilysmiley6146
      @maryemilysmiley6146 Před 3 lety

      @@brunot2481 So stipulated. I am aware of the history you cited. I only cited Gregory VII in 1075 in the interest of brevity.

  • @RGTomoenage11
    @RGTomoenage11 Před 3 lety +3

    Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @johnkeenan5404
    @johnkeenan5404 Před 3 lety

    Superb. But given the paucity of priests a Deacon friend of mine said one solution is to ordain permanent deacons who can afford to do so. This was recently rejected for The Amazon

  • @TheKnowledgeMan101
    @TheKnowledgeMan101 Před 3 lety +1

    I dont know why priests have to be single, I mean Peter and the rest of the apostles (except for Paul) was married and that didn't interfere in their message to spread the gospel and become servants of Jesus

    • @sujeyofjesus197
      @sujeyofjesus197 Před 3 lety

      Hey ken its cause the priest are here to represent jesus on earth and they give up there whole life to jesus to serve him and serve others so they have to be just like christ a single man in chastity caring more about others and jesus .

    • @TheKnowledgeMan101
      @TheKnowledgeMan101 Před 3 lety

      @@sujeyofjesus197 But Jesus entrusted the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter, and the priests are supposed to be the successors to the apostles with the pope being the successor to Peter, according to church doctrine

    • @TheKnowledgeMan101
      @TheKnowledgeMan101 Před 3 lety

      @Charles Yeah, Idk why priests have to be celibate, when the apostles themselves were married, and there is nowhere in the bible that priests have to be celibate, the reason why priests are celibate is because of Paul, but the only reason Paul said it is better to become single is because Paul believed that the Kingdom of Heaven was near, But Paul died, and its not here yet.

  • @hervedavidh4117
    @hervedavidh4117 Před 3 lety +2

    I Recommand the reading of Robert Cardinal Sarah and emeritus pope Benedict XVI's book "Des profondeurs de nos cœurs". Both explain very well through biblical, historical, theological and pastoral perspectives the meaning of clerical celibacy.
    16:06 In Africa there is not much problem about priests being celibate. In fact priests are admired for that. Europe and America are the ones who got factions that are requesting priests to be married! Most of the time it is always about priests, never about nuns, as if it was easier to be a woman and be celibate.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +1

      That’s a really interesting point about priests vs. nuns

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety

      No one is saying clerical celibacy isn’t praiseworthy ....it’s just not doctrine. Let’s stop polarizing the two and putting them against one another; this polarization is what has led to the Roman misunderstanding of it and a lot of misunderstanding. No one is trying to ruin celibacy here. The East has had married priests from the beginning and still has tons of celibates. This is because of good discernment, not mandatory rules.
      Also, monastic life (nuns in this case) is not synonymous with Holy Orders (diaconate/priesthood/episcopacy). Monastics take vows of celibacy by virtue of their state in life as monastics, but are still “laity” properly speaking as they’re not ordained. Priests and deacons are clerics, the Sacrament of Holy Orders has no doctrine requiring celibacy but monastic life (which is not a sacrament) does mandate celibacy by virtue of what it is. Celibacy in Holy Orders is merely a discipline/practice that is changeable depending on ritual church. For instance, Rome allows deacons to be married, but not priests (both are clergy). The East allows both to be married before ordination. Etc etc. No one allows married monastics because being married is not comparable with what monasticism is.

    • @hei7586
      @hei7586 Před 3 lety

      Nuns a n d monks have vowed chastity and to live in a community. You can't compare this to the celibacy of a priest.

    • @hervedavidh4117
      @hervedavidh4117 Před 3 lety

      @@hei7586
      Priests of many religious orders (OP, OFM, CJ etc...) also live in community and vow the same. All consecrated woman are not contemplative (nuns). There are religious sisters cloistered. I was talking more about them.

    • @hei7586
      @hei7586 Před 3 lety

      @@hervedavidh4117 My comment was about your statement that nobody is talking about nuns.
      Well, monks and nuns choose to live in chastity. For priests there is no choice, they have to accept it as law of the church if they feel called to priesthood. And most of them have to live single without the benefit of brothers and sisters as a family.

  • @KurtGodel432
    @KurtGodel432 Před 3 lety

    Fr. Bruce Willis.

  • @williamswenson3970
    @williamswenson3970 Před 3 lety

    Something else to factor in about Eastern Catholic or Orthodox married priests...the role of the deacon is much greater in these traditions and "mass" Divine Liturgy is usually only celebrated on Sundays and feast days as opposed to the Latin rite offering many times multiple daily masses...although not sure if Roman rite priests offer more mass because of less family obligation or celibacy is encouraged to allow priests to make the Eucharist more widely available to their congregation.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety

      Good point!

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety

      The Liturgy only on Sunday has nothing to do with the capability of a married priesthood, the community structure in the East is just different. It also has to do with the DL being so much longer, and the greater and more robust usage of Vespers, Orthros, & hours as being liturgical as well. Also the East does not see liturgy in the same obligatory vein as the West, so that paradigmatic difference led to some developmental differences over time. On another note, the Latin churches understanding and inconsistent usage of the Deacon is a tragedy to say the least.

    • @williamswenson3970
      @williamswenson3970 Před 3 lety

      @@michaelbracelin9550 this is why I love commenting on these types of videos. I really couldn't find out why it was so different and I got an awesome reply. Thank you for following up with that information. One thing I definitely understand and am saddened by is the deaconate of the western church, it seems as almost each individual diocese and even down to each individual parish utilize (or not at all) deacons in varying degrees and roles with no uniformity.

    • @michaelbracelin9550
      @michaelbracelin9550 Před 3 lety

      @@williamswenson3970 of course! I’m glad I did not offend in any way. Sometimes my wife tells me the way I write comes off as brash. Lol. Hence why I usually do not reply, but for some reason my thumbs keep going on this video.
      The issues in the diaconate started with the Vatican 2 fathers utilizing the German Lutheran model (Brandt I believe..), which mistakingly translated Acts 6 as serving the poor (food/tables). A proper exegesis, spearheaded by John N. Collins, demonstrated otherwise, that they were serving in the ministry/preaching to the Greeks (of which were not being served because the Apostles were Jews). This is how St. Luke used Diakonia, which is affirmed subsequently by the actions of St. Stephen. Also the subsequent biblical and patristic literature points to the deacon being an emissary/agent who serves on behalf of God and the Bishop Liturgically, in Preaching/Teaching, and in Charity , not a social servant for the poor (although that does fall under charity as one aspect of the deacons ministry).
      Now take into consideration the priesthood of the Roman Church having exclusive control over the theological development what a cleric is (as synonymous with priesthood), and add in a misunderstanding of what the deacon is, it’s easy to see the misunderstanding the Roman Church has and it’s inconsistent application liturgically, in preaching, and in charity. This has led to the Deacon being seen as a ecclesial social worker that appears to be unnecessary by many, rather than an essential element of the Church providing his tri-fold emissary service to the Church.
      What’s sad is most have no idea, including deacons who think they’re just supposed to be invisible servers. It’s a systemic issue. Lots of folks think it’s just some retirement gig, most where polo’s instead of collars, etc. meanwhile, in the East Deacons where clerical attire, are addressed as “Father (because they’re spiritual fathers), have a high liturgical function, etc. Rome should have looked East for guidance honestly.

    • @williamswenson3970
      @williamswenson3970 Před 3 lety

      @@michaelbracelin9550 Thank you for more historical context. I'm a sponge when it comes to this stuff so I'm rarely offended, especially when I'm not qualified :)
      I'm interested in the Diaconate (although have not quite hit the requirements yet) so I've been doing as much research as I can, but you hit the nail on the head. The two deacons in my Roman Catholic parish were basically overly involved parishioners who rarely wore clerical attire (occasionally grey shirt with clerical collar) and worked with outreach or marriage prep. Preached or helped at mass maybe once every few months. But in other dioceses I see Roman rite deacons wearing black cassocks outside of church, giving theologically sound homilies and wearing beautiful dalmatics during mass. The variety is somewhat dissuading for me as well as priest attitudes towards deacons - basically parish help and older married men interested in liturgy who were "thrown a bone" by the Bishop.
      Would you be able to clarify or point me towards resources to answer these questions? 1) Is the historical basis for women deacons in Protestantism due to the fact that women in some cases were asked to baptize other women because of the fact that people were baptized without clothes? 2) Did the diaconate play a much larger part historically in the Western church, and did St. Jerome not actually like the diaconate?
      Thank you!

  • @versatilelord8893
    @versatilelord8893 Před 3 lety +5

    A celibate and married priesthood can co exist. Marriage isn’t for everybody but those in the priesthood or episcopate that are open to it should be free to do so.

    • @GospelSimplicity
      @GospelSimplicity  Před 3 lety +2

      I agree

    • @versatilelord8893
      @versatilelord8893 Před 3 lety +1

      @Padjoe O ceal oh then why does the Holy Ghost inform St. Paul about a false asceticism in later times on 1 Timothy 4?

    • @irishman5562
      @irishman5562 Před 3 lety +1

      If you profess to be a a Roman catholic priest then follow the teachings of Holy Mother Church!

    • @versatilelord8893
      @versatilelord8893 Před 3 lety

      @@irishman5562 I’m not a priest but I do love the teachings of the church. This is a big reason why I reverted to the church. Because I love her teachings. All I’m saying is that a married and celibate priesthood/episcopate can co exist. There’s no reason that they can’t. In fact they compliment each other

  • @oat5662
    @oat5662 Před 2 lety

    As a life long agnostic Anglicanism is the most attractive.

  • @2Uahoj
    @2Uahoj Před 3 lety +1

    I think he rather misinterprets the Catholic position on celibacy, when he mentions Manichaeism. Sure, there could always be such distorted views by some Catholics, but theologically, celibacy was recommended by Our Lord himself, in terms of personal sacrifice for the Kingdom of Heaven. (Matthew, ch. 19), as well as Jesus request of the rich man to give up all he had and "follow me."
    It does not imply that marriage is bad or sex is dirty, etc. but a recognition that some are invited to this rather higher sacrificial call.

    • @bishopdavidoyedepo9954
      @bishopdavidoyedepo9954 Před 3 lety

      Child of God as I was praying. God ministered to me in a revelation as I view your profile, to see things around you, I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them, in prayers, i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, for God immediate intervention in your life, Render a seed offering with Anything you can afford or give to the motherless, sow it to ( OJEABULU MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION ) in Edo state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help, call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on
      WhatsApp or call them now on
      +2349046099547
      Tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah i4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,

  • @josephjude1290
    @josephjude1290 Před 3 lety +3

    John the Baptist and Jesus himself are celibate.

  • @MrMercuryW
    @MrMercuryW Před 3 lety +1

    There's practical reasons for priestly celibacy, for instance celibate priests since they do not have to worry about a wife or children can dedicate themselves fully to the lord and it makes it easier for them to go on missions to evangelize and provide the sacraments in remote countries, celibate clergy and religious are essentially meant to be soldiers in a spiritual mission to evangelize. and they do not have to spend extra resources on their family.
    Priestly celibacy is not a dogma of faith, priestly celibacy is a discipline therefore it is fine to personally disagree with it.
    In addition many celibate clergy and religious claim that the Lord gives them special graces to make celibacy easier and are happy dedicating themselves solely to the Lord without a spouse.
    In addition it is a sacrifice they make to the Lord, and if they remain in virtue will be rewarded by the Lord for it, I would speculate also with an spouse if so they choose, but this is just my theological opinion.
    When discerning their vocations priests are not immediately ordained. Instead they go through seminary for many years which allows them plenty of time to meditate their choice and back out of their ordination if they realize that they do not have the gift of celibacy and the Lord rather have them marry, same with nuns and monks with their novitiate, also they all have a minimum age requirement to become ordained or consecrated to the Lord, which mitigates the effects of immaturity.
    There could be a change in discipline for the Latin rite at any time and allow for married priesthood at least, but even then most vocations could remain celibate, and perhaps most religious orders' discipline on this matter will not change.

    • @MrJMB122
      @MrJMB122 Před 3 lety

      I am EO and my brother and sister in Byzantium catholic church are married too. So it double.