Counting Your Calories Is A Terrible Long-Term Weight-Loss Approach
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I think this depends on how you define “long term.” I lost 100 lbs and kept it off permanently by counting calories/macros. I do not currently track but intermittently go back to it to be aware of how much I’m eating.
That’s fine if you use it intermittently AS A TOOL
That sounds normal. As long as you not obsessed with it.
Great work!
Wow cool! How long have you kept it off by counting calories?
@@futiak3878 About 8 years.
If you are already counting calories and it is working for you please dont stop.
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Someone new out there who could have benefited from tracking calories, saw this and ultimately wont lose weight now. They’re turning into Athlean x. They jus say stuff to say it
@@bwil5989 EXACTLY. This is why videos like this anger me so much.
Great discussion!
As someone who counts calories everyday, I will say that counting calories is definitely not for everyone. Personally, t's very important for me because I deal with body dysmorphia, and it's much easier for me to overeat & undereat without counting. Maybe down the line, I'll probably skip a few days or a month of counting, but so far I have not much issue with it.
I really agree, I also became obsessed with counting calories and it really drives me crazy and ruined my quality of life. I lost 13 kilos of fat without counting calories and it felt really easy. Now after I've been working out for two years and I started counting calories, it's really hard for me to lose weight and I think that's also something Psychologically, you think you are weaker and must eat the calories out of proportion, I think it is a good tool, but you need to know how to use it.
How long did it take you to lose that 13 kilos of fat?
I totally agree, I thought i had to track my calories all the time for getting optimal results, fast forward 4 years, started to binge eat, getting obsessed about small things, constantly worrying about the amount of calories, stopped training for 4 month because everything became to much. And i am still addicted to tracking because i am scared of eating to much and gaining fat.
But i dont allow myself to track my calories anymore (unless i have to cut). Now i just estimate in my head. And i am pretty good at it because of all those years of being obsessed of tracking. But i still get an urge to put it all into my tracker app everyday. So yes... It can defently create mental problems... It happened to me, but I am getting better day by day 🙂
i went from probably 35-40% bf to
It actually works well for a lot of neurotic people including me
@@immers2410 i joke with some of my friends that it’s neurotic- but in reality i don’t think it is at all. no more so than keeping a balanced checkbook/ledger.
if you make enough money that you can buy whatever you want without going beyond your means, then it’s not necessary. a monthly or annual look at finance is sufficient. but if you don’t, you might have to be aware of what you spend every day.
it’s the same w body composition. if your set point is at a place that matches how you’d like to look/feel, then counting is not necessary. but if your set point is 25% and you want to walk around at 15% - you’re probably going to have to be very aware of what you eat. i don’t think recognizing that, wanting to look a certain way, and doing what is necessary to make it happen is neurotic.
counting calories is second nature to me now. it is not stressful. and i don’t feel like a failure when i am in a surplus. it’s just a tool to let me be leaner than my hunger and lifestyle would otherwise allow
@@floydiustube that’s a pretty neurotic answer, bro. A lot of people are neurotic. It’s nothing to be ashamed of.
it works for everyone that applies it properly, but for some of us after a while, it begins to be too obsessive and causes stress. I am trying to go more intuitively eating by eyeballing portions and using my hands as rough portion control measurements. I've gotten pretty lean 5'9 and under 140 lbs now and counting calories and weighing all my food as I have been doing to get here is starting to become too much for me.
@@immers2410 im neurotic af or i get disorganized af.
It's tedious to count calories. Fitness should be a part of your life, not control your life. In saying that people think metabolic adaptation is why they're not losing weight when in reality they are eating more than they think they are which is why counting helps, at least until you understand what's in the food you eat
Exactly. You have to track calories at the start but use it as an education tool vs a crutch. The goal is to be able to train your body to know portion sizes. Though I admit i always track my calories on cheat days or days i know i went overboard just so I can modify the next few days
I used counting calories to gain weight. Thankfully I like basically the same foods, so once I got a good Idea of calories I didn’t need to count them.
I love counting and wieghing food to be honest. I've been doing it for 5 years. I went from 14st to 10 st with this method! It gave me a great understanding that I was eating like a pig and my portions where enough for two people :)
I will have to disagree . I saw big gains when I started counting calories . It’s not like I’m doing that all day long. 5 minutes per day is enough. Maybe in the beginning it was a bit harder until I get used to it but now it’s on autopilot .
If you want to be healthy, you never have to count calories. You can learn what proper servings are by using a reasonably-sized plate and filling most of it with natural foods that have very minimal ingredients. If you have an artificial goal, then you probably will have to count. If you don't have a solid relationship with food, then you might feel too insecure and afraid to stop counting because your intuition hasn't been trained. You don' t know how to hear from your body directly. You also likely have a transactional relationship with food and exercise. But everyone should do whatever works for them. It's really no one else's business.
Im a big advocate of counting calories at least for a few months when you are new just so you can get an idea of how much you actually eat. Like once you learn what a serving actually looks and feels like you can actually get alot more freedom with your diet.
Macros I wouldnt even bother with unless you are trying to build muscle bc usually if you are eating lean meats youre going to get more than enough protein for general health and wellness
I don't see the problem with tracking if someone wants to do that long-term and they don't dislike it.
it is correlated with creating bad relationship with food
@@poach18509 Not with everyone. Works fantastic for me has for years.
Yeah really good relationship with food when you dont eat or stop eating when you feel hungry/ satisfied, you stop when the app tells you to stop😂 nice
It's very optimistic to think you can address the root. Sometimes it can't be fixed. You can just manage it and being aware of the nutritional and caloric value of what you are about to eat is one way to fight against urges to eat too much of a food or eat it too often.
Very good video and summary. Great job
I love counting calories and tracking my weight every day. It has really helped my relationship with food which was horrible before. I always felt shame about everything I ate but when I track I don’t have to stress because I can eat whatever I want as long as I stay within my macros. Tracking allows me to eat the food I love without feeling shame because I know I’m not going over calories and that I’m getting enough protein, I don’t know that I will do it forever but it’s been a lot of fun for me and helped me get into shape for the first time in my life.
Thank you for sharing!
I'm tracking at the moment and It's certainly an eye opener to the reality of just how much I was actually unknowingly consuming!!
Things like the whole30 and counting are supposed to recalibrate your brain, pallet, and gut so you can intuitive eat healthy, crave the right foods, and know when to stop. It's a means to an end.
Needed to learn this years ago.
The video title is incomplete, it should read *Counting Your Calories Is A Terrible Long-Term Weight-Loss Approach - for your personal trainer because they will lose money now that you are slim and no longer need them*
I honestly just like tracking my calories lol. I have days where i don’t track but i have a tendency to overeat so tracking is actually extremely helpful
I can’t say that tracking it is terrible for the long term. My experience is that I track every time I want to lean out, I give myself 9weeks I do that twice a year.
Good discussion, but just flat out saying its a bad long term method is being very general.
It highly depends on the individual
Very true. I lost about 80lbs and tracked my calories. Now years later, I have a very physical job, I lift or workout almost every day, and I literally can’t get enough calories in to keep weight on. Tracking calories would be pretty unnecessary for somebody like me. If I had a desk job and maybe was a smaller dude who didn’t need as much food, I could see the value in it for sure
It actually works very well for a LOT of people, including me. It is the ONLY thing that has worked for me. It has changed my life. I do not stress out over numbers or obsess about macros.
Damn it, we need to see more calorie counting positivity on CZcams. Every time I search for it I get Jason Fung and negative titles like this. Enough.
Calorie tracking is good to know more about which food groups are more conducive to weight loss and health like fruits and vegetables but to be honest that’s all you need to know and then just move on. Create good habits around nutrition. Not everyone wants to track and weigh out every thing they eat
@@jasonrios3120 Never said it was for everybody! I just take issue people flatly saying it’s a bad idea. Most people won’t know until they try. What chance do they have when they’re being told upfront they will fail?
This is good advice for an average person who just wants "health" This is not good advice for a strength or physique athlete. They mention this in the vid, but it's worth reiterating
This is complete bullshit. 20 -30 Years ago you hadnt the chance to track calories . And old school bodybuilder got very shredded without counting. They simply eat unprocessed food
I use to track everything for ten years.. now i see this is a usefull tool todas i don't track anymore and i haver much better understand of nutrition and relationship with food
I found when my trainer meal prep’d my first two weeks of food, showed me how to do it, I was able to have the greatest gains/weight loss with minimal mental bandwidth required.
I despise having to use so much time for so long counting calories when I could just be told what to eat, stick to it and get results.
But does it really take that long? These days you literally just plug it into an app that tracks everything for you so you can legit log it in less than 30 seconds
@@jlogan2228 If it’s to get someone who has largely been uneducated and undisciplined in nutrition it’s not easy. Trying to figure out what calories and nutrients were in the salmon salad I ate at a clients lunch meeting and what dressing, how many croutons and soup contents is exasperating. Only to go home and try to figure out what my wife put in the chili, I’m done.
I personally wanted to remove every thinking aspect to weight loss as possible so that all my energy could be focused one one thing….telling my mind to shut up, we are going to the gym today. Again and again and again.
Another good way to know you're doing the right thing is getting blood work done. If you're cholesterol (LDL) is going down and blood sugars are heading back to normal levels from your baseline markers when you were unhealthy, then you're doing something that works
I’ll be honest I have to track to stay on course but it can get annoying. I have weight to lose but when I don’t track I’m generally way over what I am supposed to have calorically.
when using a calorie tracker, does anyone use the TEF setting?
(thermic effect of food)
I'm confused I'm trying to lose weight I use to be a hard core dieter.. I have been working out 5 to 6 days a week and averaging around 16k steps a day. I've started lifting weight.. I eat between 2000 to 2600 calories because I get really hungry now that I've built upto it. My height is 5.5. My weight is 77kg and still is the same give or take 1 kg why isn't it dropping.. am I eating enough? By the way I workout that much because I like to stay active and I find I love lifting weights.
I’m always watching these videos but just wish I could afford a MAPS program like aesthetics as I struggle to know how to structure a workout plan
Do you guys have a guide to long-term weight loss, healthy eating, or something like that? I like what you are saying here, but there are so many details about how to implement it that I don't know.
This podcast on losing 100 lbs from them might help. I know there are older videos that hit the topic, but I don't remember which videos it was.
czcams.com/video/6L57ZRLbYOM/video.html
Thanks for the info, I'll keep counting calories lol
I definitely have a nagging concern when I'm not able to track most of my calories, and see the potential for disorders to form.
I'm on the flip side though, where I'm worried about eating enough. Not sure what the long term solution there would be without tracking.
When i did P90X. It was the first time i followed an actual nutrition plan. After a while i knew what to eat and could judge a serving pretty well.
Now, years later. Im couning calories. Once you hit your cal goal everyday day for a month. You should get a goid idea of what to eat and how much. If you notice the scale or the mirror going a direction you dont want. Start counting again. Personally. I dont mind tracking. Not just calories but the food itself. I can see/feel. A direct correlation between how i feel and what i ate.
Is losing 15 lbs in 2 months difficult for most people? I did that in a month by eating an all-meat diet, zero calorie counting, eating until I was full, with very little exercise (walking 30min a couple times a week, light weight lifting at home for 10 min every other day). Now I feel better in my 40s than I did in my 20s. Still eating the same diet and plan to continue doing so. It's a lifestyle change, not a "diet" in the way most people use the word.
I've been tracking calories and macros for 4 years straight. I do think everyone should track calories at some point in their life so they can learn what a serving of (fill in the blank) actually looks like. But yeah context definitely matters with everything, it's not necessary for some populations. This is a great clip!
"I feel like youre personally attacking me" lmao
I've been counting calories every day since last May, nearly a year
It's really not that hard and I wouldn't be able maintain my weight without doing it. I eat a lot
I don't mess with macros though
I make sure i take in carbs especially before working out and i also count my protein
I roughly eat 75% of the same food each day and i know the macro's of that. The other 25% i can eyeball about what those calories and proteins are, worked for me for years.
Buy don't you have to also eat the same-ish amounts of the same foods for that to work?
@@trevbarlow9719 Yeah.
Big fan of having clients just send me a picture of their meals
Just had garlic bread and ice cream protien shake for my night shift. I think im winning
I don’t believe in ever counting calories
And now I’m obese.
Should’ve counted.
I would t have been able to gain weight to get healthier without tracking. I still have to having suffered with lack of appetite it helps me to hit calories
IMO I think Sal's generality of 12-16% bf is too low. I think average gym going men will probably be more in the 15-25% bf range
Ive been counting calorie and protein for over a year now and have to disagree
Ive dropped about 60 lbs, gained muscle and went from 20 to about 13 bf
It's super easy to do, for me at least, simple note app and it's not just to measure a deficit but surplus which can be more important. I track calories burned to the best of my abilities
But if you talked to me 2 years ago I would've agreed. It seems obsessive
This is not consistent with your past discussions on eating X gm of protein, carb or fats.
This is silly. There is no direct correlation between calorie/macro tracking and "stressful eating", nor did you attempt to make one. You're just assuming that somehow the model isn't sustainable, but you failed to make your point.
If you think you can stop good habits and keep the same results, you're wrong, and there is no such thing as too much data. The more you know the better you will be.
Conflating tracking and collecting of data with an eating disorder is just plain incorrect.
It's like saying that tracking your finances inevitably leads to a poor relationship with money and bad spending habits. Utter nonsense.
THANK YOU!
Great video guys. Counting kcals forever is for sure a bad idea. But if someone has a lot of weight to lose, depending on the person and their end goals, it can be very useful until they've achieved their initial goal at least.
I'm not hearing they 'why'. How can data be detrimental to mental health or progress?
In fact, how does a lack of information help anyone with anything? Ignorance is bliss?? Lol.
Just an fyi, you can track your diet while eating exactly what you want, caloric deficit or not, so it doesn't need to stop you from flexible dieting, healthy eating and healthy enjoyment of life.
@@KneeGrew so, long term calorie tracking can promote eating disorders.I see where you're coming from, and it depends on the individuals goals. Some people are happy to track permanently.
I feel like you binge because you are starving not really because you are counting calories…counting when you are having a cheat day or something does not cause binging AT ALL if your relationship with food is unhealthy…it just is ……you can workout too much too for example….does that mean that working out is overrated? No…… the correlation is kinda biased there…. Just my opinion…..
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I find it fun and it satisfies my autism
There isn’t one healthy approach. It depends on the individual. Think the concerns by mind pump here are quite limited
I mean about tracking
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Statement #1 - To lose fat you ultimately need to be in a calorie deficit.
Statement #2 - Counting cals is a bad long term strategy.
Sensing some contradiction there. 🤔
Yes you need to be in a calorie deficit and you don’t have to count calories lol, Eric Helms and Menno Hennselmans are living proof of getting stage lean without tracking lol
@@jasonrios3120 - With how meticulous Helms is, I'm surprised to read that. But he probably still tracked in some way. Most likely in relation to TDEE/calories burned/steps walked, etc.. So still some sort of calorie monitoring.
Plus if you've been eating the same stuff for awhile and have cals/macros memorized, you can go into auto pilot as well.
@@ryandeffley7652 Which is what most people need lol, nutrition should be automated not something you need to spend time on daily when other more important tasks in life require more mental energy. Plus even counting calories you are still calorie monitoring and having a good step count if you live a healthy lifestyle
@@jasonrios3120 - I don't really consider taking 10 sec to weigh food or do basic math in my head taxing "mental energy".
Plus with me I do fasting and only eat 1-2 meals per day so even less work involved. LOL But to each their own. 👍
@@ryandeffley7652 That’s the thing you eat 1-2 meals per day! Most people eat 3-4 meals. If you eat 1-2 meals per day your calories are already in check to easily put yourself in a deficit and that’s your way of being in a deficit
Fitness fanatics because you count calories 😣😣😣😣😣 nope it takes literally 5 min….. trust me im not a fanatic fitness freak….. countint calories is a tool, same as weighing yourself, measuring yourself …..these are just tools to use when you feel you need to….all of these could be unhealthy IF you are not mentally stable……
At this point, I think you are just saying stupid shit for the algorithm lol. Takes like these make anything you have said or will say hard to take seriously. These should always be some form of macro/calorie tracking throughout your life. You NEED to know what you are putting in your body. The obesity epidemic IS the lack of understanding of calorie intake lmao. Eating within your macros is NOT a type of dis functional eating.
I think if somebody is well educated on their food and has settled into a diet that works for their lifestyle then tracking may not be NECESSARY, but yeah I agree I don’t think they should call tracking “bad”.
@@lukemadden9690 I agree. There should always be some form of tracking from actual weighing to “this is what 300 calories of chicken looks like, this is what 100 calories of rice looks like”
When i’m not cutting I don’t count macros but I still make sure i’m aware of what i’m putting into my body, especially if i’m going out with friends
Agree. Definitely unfollowing after hearing this lol. These guys are full of shit
I agree that you need to get to the root cause of the weight gain in order to lose it - and tracking forever is not sensible.
No its not
I like their real world approach to everything.Generally speaking, we are human not robots.
Dude this is so wrong. Counting calories is the best way to go. It is not hard.
For what. Is it nice to force eat ? To not stop until your app tells you to do so? Why dont eat healthy and unprocessed and then you eat after hunger and satisfaction
@@BLaCkAddor I understand your point
I hate hearing the truth but yeah I get it
Its not "the truth", it's an opinion, and not a valuable one at that, as they failed to support their assertions with facts. While I think it's totally acceptable to make videos on one's opinions, us viewers should remember to take opinions as just that. Respectfully, this is not information, its entertainment, and you shouldn't take stock in it.
If you want to learn, you're better off reading for yourself than listening to some boob's opinion.
I must say i like flexibel dieting becouse i like junkfood so much thatvif i track i can fit it in easy in my diet. I dont want to stop eating ice cream cookies and other non nutrition food thats why flexibel dieting great for me i make it work tracking these days is so easy myfitnispall.