Intel 16 inch MacBook Pro: is it good enough?

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    The 16 inch MacBook Pro came out over a year ago, but it's still the current model as far as Apple is concerned! With new Apple Silicon MacBooks expected to land later this year it begs the question: is the 16 inch Intel MacBook Pro worth buying in 2021? New or used? Or would it be smarter to wait for Apple Silicon to land?
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  • @vincentallen6797
    @vincentallen6797 Před 2 lety +198

    Ended up buying one 2 months ago and think it's amazing. Had to get a macbook for starting audio engineering school, and M1 is not an option because of compatibility. Buy what you need when you need it. If you keep waiting and waiting, you will never be happy and will stay without a computer.

    • @nickdubesa8068
      @nickdubesa8068 Před 2 lety +1

      The m1 versions run most non native applications very well under emulation. Was it actually not compatible with audio engineering though?

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 Před 2 lety +23

      @@nickdubesa8068 Compatible with Rosetta and some being native, yes. Stable? Faar from it.
      A lot of the DAW softwares and plugins will work but there’s some issues with crashing/interruptions as well as legacy plugins and software straight up not working. Pro tools is just now getting official support via Rosetta, but it’s not to the point where it will run native and be as stable as a native app. While an M1 would probably be great for someone who isn’t going to be relying on the computer working to make their living (or get through school in my case), I need a system that’s rock solid, compatible with every program I use, and will have zero issues so I don’t waste people’s time when trying to deliver a finished product. And my school is highly suggesting students still go for intel models until M1 support is more developed.
      This could be a completely different story come a year or two, and that would be great cause these chips are awesome. The music software industry is unfortunately incredibly slow with updating things. Still have to run Catalina so things don’t break, tried Big Sur and it was not fun lol.

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 Před 2 lety

      do u have any audio pop issues??

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rahulghoshm7046 I don’t have any of those, you shouldn’t have any issues with this much cpu power typically

    • @FactFlix3
      @FactFlix3 Před 2 lety

      OOGH OOGH OOGH

  • @PilotPerkins
    @PilotPerkins Před 2 lety +195

    I love my 16”. It’s nice to have bootcamp to avoid gaming workarounds. It’s a decent Mac with a decent PC. Two functional operating systems in one device.

    • @daniellevanacker
      @daniellevanacker Před 2 lety +5

      Does it not have really bad overheating and loud fans tho? That’s a no go for me :/

    • @saftige_orange
      @saftige_orange Před 2 lety +10

      @@daniellevanacker Actually not as bad as the 15 inch from mid 2015
      In loger Gaming sesions in Bootcamp and GTA 5 medium/high setigns + Macs Fancontroll at 40-50 FPS .It sits a round 80 °C. Yea u can hear the fans running under bootcamp but under MacOS i never heard them ramping up realy loud so. An i did some heavy task like many open safari taps and a light Game in the background.

    • @GoldPunch
      @GoldPunch Před 2 lety +13

      Bro it should be more than decent. I spent 3500 dollars for this 😭😭

    • @Ka_T_ya
      @Ka_T_ya Před 2 lety +2

      Won’t get windows 11 on it.

    • @jameschen8
      @jameschen8 Před 2 lety

      @@daniellevanacker ofc there’s going to be loud fans...

  • @TheGloriousLeader
    @TheGloriousLeader Před 2 lety +221

    "is it still good" man, this device is still top tier. I view this as a portable 21.5" Intel iMac. I love the video and acknowledgement of the used market. Buying used on these devices is a must nowadays.

    • @HellNaw98
      @HellNaw98 Před 2 lety +9

      If it was a portable version of the crappy 21.5” iMac then it would be a lot slower

    • @TheGloriousLeader
      @TheGloriousLeader Před 2 lety +3

      @@HellNaw98 I’m talking the 4K retina model.

    • @mahaining4540
      @mahaining4540 Před 2 lety +4

      As a user of a 21.5-inch iMac with a Retina 4K screen for almost three years, this computer does not really fit me. For me, the disadvantage of this computer would be 8GB of memory, and the Fusion Drive, especially the Fusion Drive, is really horrible.

    • @jambononi
      @jambononi Před 2 lety +3

      It's top tier in the same way Michael Jordan was still top tier at the age of 40. But you wouldn't pay money for something that is about to become almost half as valuable in 2 or 3 months. Selling one of these in the autumn is going to be real painful for current 16" users who can't quite get their work done efficiently enough. I had the the i9 with 32gb ram and it was still choking a little on some of my work. And it was so unbelievably expensive

    • @obitosaldivar1876
      @obitosaldivar1876 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jambononi thermals dude it’s good hardware but the chasis is too thin i recommend you either put in some really good thermal paste and put a thermal sponge on the heatsink and use the bottom plate as a extra heatsink or you can sell it while you can before this shit cuts it’s value in half

  • @anthonybrooks7996
    @anthonybrooks7996 Před 2 lety

    watching you in 4K on my 16 inch macbook. the detail! my 16 inch pro was made in may this year and so far im loving it, theres some software glitches now and then, but the speakers and screen are amazing!

  • @bajnaj73
    @bajnaj73 Před 2 lety +40

    I bought a used one and can get almost the same amount when I trade it in. Also older eyes love bigger screens!

    • @denysivanov3364
      @denysivanov3364 Před 2 lety +4

      I have 21 inch 2017 IMac and its really great. I have myopia (bad large distance vision) Even 21 inches allows me to watch youtube in 1.2-1.5 meters. Really good stuff from eye strain point of view. PS: I want 30 inch future IMac pro :)

  • @danielcontreras9343
    @danielcontreras9343 Před 2 lety

    These are my absolute favorite videos from you man. Exactly what I needed to know.

  • @arvinsim
    @arvinsim Před 2 lety +34

    It is still good - 16" MBP owner 😛

    • @NormanF62
      @NormanF62 Před 2 lety +1

      In ten years you can get the Apple Silicon MBP with upgraded specs used for a reasonable price. Then it will really look good compared to when it was new! You’re a chump spending the Apple tax knowing the depreciation factor and Intel Macs still have s lot of life left in them.

    • @locnes2133
      @locnes2133 Před 2 lety +3

      @@NormanF62 ok...

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 Před 2 lety

      do u have any audio pop issues??

  • @nigelholland1811
    @nigelholland1811 Před 2 lety +2

    I love my mbp16”, makes me smile whenever i turn it on. The sound is awesome the bigger screen is great. I really do not notice the fan noise.Never had a problem with Touch ID taking too long ,maybe I’m just not in that much of a hurry. Certainly no regrets here. Love your videos Luke. Especially like the repair /makeover ones. Uk viewer.

  • @BlazingPhoenix05
    @BlazingPhoenix05 Před 2 lety +27

    I love, love my 16 inch i9 Intel Macbook! And it is about 7-8 months now and works much better than my pc. I love having Final Cut Pro on it! I got it with 32GB and 1TB specs! I can wait a few years to upgrade to the M1 16 inch. No problem. I find the Intel 16 inch to be still quite snappy and of course the graphics is great! Oh yeah the fans, I found that my macbook is actually quieter than my pc laptops😱. I do hear the fans but they seem a bit quieter to me🤷‍♀️
    Great information Luke!!!

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 Před 2 lety +1

      do u have any audio pop issues??

    • @BlazingPhoenix05
      @BlazingPhoenix05 Před 2 lety

      @@rahulghoshm7046 Surprisingly my audio is great! The quality out does the audio of the pc which have had those pops. My PC laptop had some bad pop issues within a year of owning it. So far my macbook has been solid with the sound and I love it with blue tooth headphones.

  • @jackspring7709
    @jackspring7709 Před 2 lety +4

    I bought mine last summer. Although it pained me to pay out that amount of money it's one of the best things I've ever bought - and runs all my software with no problems whatsoever. Delighted with it. TBH I haven't noticed mine overheating, it's mostly cool to the touch and the only time it makes noise is when I'm working on something complex in Final Cut Pro.

  • @RyanDunton
    @RyanDunton Před 2 lety +2

    Purchased my 16" last summer. Has been an amazing Mac and Windows machine for me. The only downside is the power management, as it kills the battery. But I wasn't going to keep waiting for a new computer that may or may not come.

  • @zedgraphics00
    @zedgraphics00 Před 2 lety

    I’m a graphic designer working on a late 2013 MacBook Pro running big sur, and it still working like a beast!!

  • @arlencarlson
    @arlencarlson Před 2 lety +9

    For me, I would not have a problem spending full new cost on the 16” Intel…possibly even when the Apple Silicon version comes out. Still a valuable machine. Although I think the best option would be buying off Apple’s refurb list which brings it in at a discount.

  • @anthonybush3134
    @anthonybush3134 Před rokem +3

    I picked up a 2019 MBP 16 inch at the pawn shop for 720$. its space gray nd looks brand new and the inside is very Clean and only has 70 charge cycles on the battery

  • @swervinmedia6984
    @swervinmedia6984 Před 2 lety +2

    I bought mine new in early 2020 and it's been a workhorse for video edits and general productivity! That being said, I'll definitely upgrade to an M1 machine (after using a base M1 air for DD) in the same form factor if I can get good multi display support and more gaming power for those work trips.

  • @rickienilsson5088
    @rickienilsson5088 Před 2 lety +2

    Got a 16 inch MacBook Pro i9 8 core 16 GB RAM 1 TB SSD. Never had better, I can run 10-20 apps at the same time without any performance issues and everything just works. Loving it!

  • @BruceBurke
    @BruceBurke Před 2 lety +1

    I have the same kind of a love/hate relationship with my 2019 16” MacBook Pro. This one will definitely be up for sale when the new matte black model is released.

  • @andril
    @andril Před 2 lety

    i need that layout great video

  • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
    @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video, a particular issue I noticed missing is that in the MBP versus the M1, you can go to 32 or even 64GB ram... lets see if apple offers those options in teh M-based, as memory being integrated in the SOC, it should be very very expensive to produce those 32 and 64gb options.

  • @jnuno9877
    @jnuno9877 Před 2 lety +8

    I have one that bought new with a great discount
    Still is amazingly fast after ~2 years

  • @duringthemeanwhilst
    @duringthemeanwhilst Před 2 lety +2

    I've had mine (core i9, 1TB) for 18 months. Had to replace a cracked display but otherwise had zero problems. When brand new I had the temp and fan issues. Did an SMC re-set and no problems since . I only get fans very occasionally when rendering video. For everything else it stays nice and cool. After 30 mins of watching YT it is actually cool to the touch.

  • @Boomtowndogs
    @Boomtowndogs Před 2 lety

    I have a 16” i9, 5500m, and I use activity monitor to close intensive apps running in the background. Fixed all fan issues. My creative cloud always opens in the background and sends my temps to max until closed. Then it runs cool

  • @justwatchingnothingmore
    @justwatchingnothingmore Před 2 lety +1

    I'm definitely getting one of these very soon

  • @AA-flyguy
    @AA-flyguy Před 2 lety

    Excellent Video!!!, this is SUPER SMART AND USEFUL information. Thats why we watch 👍👌🙏

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love your vids Luke
    I’d be happy with one of these 16” Intel MBPs… but only bc I already have an Apple Silicon one!

  • @eafortson
    @eafortson Před 2 lety +6

    As a member of the music producer community I can absolutely assure you we NEVER got numb to that fan noise. It’s genuinely the thing I’m most excited about for the M1X I’m waiting to upgrade to and is the single reason I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of buying a 16in intel Mac. Not even for 0 dollars.

    • @brian_obino
      @brian_obino Před rokem

      So, the fan noise is that bad?

    • @eafortson
      @eafortson Před rokem +2

      @@brian_obino it’s atrocious bro. I kept my computer fairly clean (fresh installs regularly to remove bloat) also dusted it at least every 3 months. It was just the thermal constraints that meant heavy would would spin up the fans every time. I’ve since upgraded to the M1 Max never looking back. It’s a whole new world. Fans are never audible ever. Like never ever

    • @Damciii
      @Damciii Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@eafortsonI approve this message

  • @ononaokisama
    @ononaokisama Před 2 lety +73

    I couldn’t/can’t wait for apple silicon to be usable in my field. I need windows x86 emulation and dedicated graphics. I just bought the 16 inch i know it is being phased out but apple silicon needs more features for me before i can use it in my field.

    • @flako6096
      @flako6096 Před 2 lety

      what do you do? or work in

    • @Carlos970
      @Carlos970 Před 2 lety +1

      I saw your description in the about session on YT... I've been a mac user all my life, spamming from the early 90's, I'm a gamer as well, was using bootcamp for a while but the truth is... you and I need a PC running windows, either amd or intel and Nvidia graphics for our gaming endeavors, gaming on a mac, even the latest mac pro, yeah that oen that cost the same as a fully loaded tesla truck, it just simply wrong, doesnt feel as good as a windows PC built for gaming does.

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 Před 2 lety +1

      Same here, audio production still has a long way to go until we have full stable compatibility ;-;

    • @igorlima7280
      @igorlima7280 Před 2 lety +1

      I’m a engineer and need the Autodesk products, most part are only for windows.
      My dream would be their adoption to those new macs .

    • @berkinerengurman1401
      @berkinerengurman1401 Před 2 lety +1

      Igor Lima I am an industrial design student i am using autodesk and similar CAD programs too and they doesn’t work stable even on intel cpus I can’t imagine how bad is the emulator so I bought 13 inch 2020 4TB macbook pro 4 months ago

  • @Joshmakey12
    @Joshmakey12 Před 2 lety

    I got a 4 port 2020 13 MacBook Pro as a replacement for my 2017 13 base model MacBook Pro due to keyboard issues. Pretty nice computer.

  • @donnguyen3795
    @donnguyen3795 Před 2 lety +15

    I moved from windows to a MBP 16, after a month I would say the 16' is the best laptop I have ever used

    • @pablokoelo4549
      @pablokoelo4549 Před 2 lety

      Same here with macbook M1 :)

    • @nguyenthehien3034
      @nguyenthehien3034 Před 2 lety

      same here with the M1. I can even use it on bed with mattress surfing internet and writing documents.

    • @donnguyen3795
      @donnguyen3795 Před 2 lety +1

      @Islandstyles the mbp 16 offer something that a windown laptop can't: a smooth big trackpad that sometimes I forgot I have a mouse, strong battery life that survive through more than 3 hours, good speaker.

  • @modigady1
    @modigady1 Před 2 lety

    Will the Intel MBP be compatible with all of the features that macOS Monterey? If not, that would make the 2016-2019 16” MBP an even less enticing buy in my opinion.

  • @FoamandStuff
    @FoamandStuff Před 9 měsíci +4

    You should do an update video in 2023 with 2023 used prices.

  • @lynda777
    @lynda777 Před 2 lety

    I love my larger MBP - I have a 13" that I frankly hate the size, but it is maxed out on everything. I use for different purposes.

  • @agudam
    @agudam Před 2 lety

    I bought the base model 16" MBP right after when it was launched and I have no complaints with it aside from the fans going into overdrive occasionally, but after I got myself a case with air vents, and replaced Safari with Edge, the fans and temperature weren't as aggressive anymore. The phenomenal speakers on it and the large screen size totally justify my purchase. And I agree with the advantage of being able to charge from both sides.

    • @Blakesworld17
      @Blakesworld17 Před rokem

      Can you link the vented case!?

    • @agudam
      @agudam Před rokem +1

      @@Blakesworld17 I'm not being allowed to share the link but any hard shell case will do. Most of them usually come with vents on the bottom piece.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Před 2 lety +1

    Bootcamp is what I miss most since I moved from the 2018 Mac mini to the M1 Mac mini.

  • @WelcometoVideoCity
    @WelcometoVideoCity Před 2 lety

    Always enjoyable. But would love to see another 'buying a pile of old gear and repairing' them vid.

  • @dskehn
    @dskehn Před 2 lety +1

    are 15in touchbar macbook pros still worry it?

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang313 Před 2 lety

    Just bought a 2017 pro and cant get over how quiet it is. My thinkpad collection all randomly turn on their fans whenever they feel like it even if they've been idling for a day or something. That said, at least they have good keyboards.

  • @cpagoals
    @cpagoals Před 2 lety +12

    I bought this beast last May and I am a little bummed after the new releases, but it still is a power-horse and it does everything I need it to. Still hoping i'll get a few years out of it, thankfully I got the i9 one open box for only $2200 instead of $2800 ❤️ Plus I'd still pay extra any day for the bigger screen

  • @Geek2go
    @Geek2go Před rokem +2

    just got a 2019 i7 16GB 512GB W/ AMD Graphics configuration used for $700. I saw that's pretty good value. With a very limited budget, and not able to quite afford what I want in the M1... I opted for used. There's still some great value in the 2019 versions, I think especially for users that are using graphic intensive applications. However you bring up one really good point that might get me to flip this computer and try to shoot for an m1 or m2... and that's the FAN noise. I hate fan noise. So if it's as noisy as you say then that will probably be what I do.

  • @DamianNocun
    @DamianNocun Před rokem +1

    MBP 16 i9 or Air M1? I will get one of those as company laptop but which to choose ?

  • @LeeStewart
    @LeeStewart Před 2 lety

    I still have my 16-inch i7 MacBook Pro from two years ago and it's great. I've recently purchased the M1 Mac mini, which'll be my main desktop computer but what I don't like about the M1 MacBook Pro is its port limitations. I had a 2017 13-inch MacBook Pro and I found only having two USB-C ports very limiting. The only thing I don't like about my 16-inch is the heat, it's very hot to the touch and I have to use Software to cool it down.

  • @thebandthatisDAVE
    @thebandthatisDAVE Před 3 měsíci

    Love my 2019 16 Mac Pro! It’s now 2024 and my music and video recording and editing is first class!

  • @fggonzalez18
    @fggonzalez18 Před rokem +5

    Ordered mine last week. 8-core, i9, 16bg ram and 1tb of storage for 750$
    I think it's a great deal, this machine should last me for at least 5 more years

    • @simplymzkira
      @simplymzkira Před rokem +1

      Where?

    • @simplymzkira
      @simplymzkira Před rokem +1

      @@fggonzalez18 check what out? Where did you buy the laptop from?

    • @krystle8090
      @krystle8090 Před rokem

      from where

    • @fggonzalez18
      @fggonzalez18 Před rokem +1

      ​@@krystle8090 Amazon, $750 from the refurbished seccion. I'be been able to edit big project on premiere pro/after effects (video editing apps), and large lightroom galleries with no problem. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a pro machine 10/10

  • @LivingByFire
    @LivingByFire Před rokem

    I'm really contemplating selling my 15" 2017 2.9 Macbook Pro to upgrade to a 2019 i9. I am debating whether it is worth it or not. I will need to use native Windows apps (one being Quick Assist for family tech support), some light gaming, and other things. Thoughts?

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 Před 2 lety

    I love you man you’re very blunt in a good way

  • @codenamefrenchfries3282

    I just bought myself an M1 Macbook Pro 16Gb of ram and I love it. I was hoping that the 14in was going to be available before I go to school in August but it's not so RIP.

  • @kevinlong4657
    @kevinlong4657 Před 2 lety

    I had the 16" and I loved the speakers but the screen actually kinda sucked. It has very slow pixel response times that made scrolling look obnoxious "ghosting" .. there are many forum threads about this. Definitely hope it's better with next generation of MBP . I never had this problem with my 15.4 models.

  • @MikeDancy
    @MikeDancy Před rokem +2

    I just paid $700 for a 2019 MBP i9-9980 16GB/1TB. great condition.

  • @LSM_Lover
    @LSM_Lover Před 2 lety +1

    Iv got a late 2011 MacBook Pro, 2TB SSD 8GB ram, runs AMAZING

  • @15458434
    @15458434 Před 2 lety +1

    Exactly the reason why I'm still on a 15" MacBook Pro (2016)

  • @italobjj
    @italobjj Před 2 lety

    What the best used Mac air to buy ? Cheap one ?

  • @lorenzocorro1517
    @lorenzocorro1517 Před 2 lety

    I own a 16-inch MBP with Radeon Pro 5500m and I think it just works for me coz I'm always travelling but I still like to game whenever I can (on bootcamp of course). Would definitely consider just replacing the 16-inch with an M1 and another Windows laptop but I guess it's really not worth the hassle of carrying around 2 laptops. Love the video btw!

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 Před 2 lety

    Is there any generation of the 16inch intel mbp that had more technical issues?

  • @soberhippie
    @soberhippie Před 2 lety +6

    8:57 Luke Miani goes stereotypically Italian

  • @BitsOfBen
    @BitsOfBen Před 2 lety +1

    I have the 16inch MBP for a year now. It will do me fine for now.

  • @maximilian.jansen
    @maximilian.jansen Před 2 lety +1

    I have my 16' for around 3 weeks now and it does have an i9 (16 GB and 4 GB 5500m) configuration. Although it was almost new (14 cycles) I purchased it for 1350€ which is a low price here in Germany (3200€ at Apple). I also use it for heavier tasks like Photoshop and Illustrator. Does it get hot? Yes, it does. But I could hear the fences only once during these 3 weeks and I am using it daily for a noticeable amount of time. Does someone have similar experiences?

  • @MatthewSenaratne-es3lk
    @MatthewSenaratne-es3lk Před 26 dny +1

    I had an old hp lap top that had the fans the second I turned it on but when I bought this MacBook Pro mid 2019 I was so surprised of how little the fans turned on compared to my old hp laptop! D o not complain. I still love this video!😊

  • @MikeVlcek
    @MikeVlcek Před 2 lety +27

    I wanna see Luke doing a video about BeamNG now that he’s shown it here! Ahahah

  • @jeffreyprokopowicz9842
    @jeffreyprokopowicz9842 Před 2 lety +1

    No mention of the very nice "studio quality" mics.

  • @Zhinix04
    @Zhinix04 Před 2 lety

    I think it depends on what it's for.. I love my 16". and my M1 mac mini. very different machines, each great for its use. I don't get the complaining about noise though.. I haven't had any issues with it. sure, it spins up when the AMD card is active as expected, but otherwise, rare to hear them at all unless I put the machine to work.

  • @lgmarquez5469
    @lgmarquez5469 Před 2 lety +4

    I got one for $850. The guy hated it because he was a graphic designer and hated the overheating to the point that he sent it to apple and got a new one from apple. But ended up buying the M1 Max instead. He wanted $1,000 I got him down to $850. This thing was brand new. It only had 18 battery cycles. Plus i'm a Finance major really wont be pushing this device to its limits. A great upgrade from my 2013 Macbook Air.

  • @pheriwinkle
    @pheriwinkle Před 2 lety +3

    I'm in the process of replacing my old Macs for new Intel Macs to get the latest models before Intel goes away. The main reason is virtualization. I have VMs for tons of old software I don't want to spend tons of money to replace: MS-DOS, Windows, Mac OS X 10.6, 10.8. This why my old machines are on Mojave too--for 32-bit support. (Plus the Music app is worse than iTunes.) I'm already torn about having to upgrade to Big Sur on the new hardware.
    So to give some examples: I still use Adobe CS4 on 10.8. For translation work: I have an unabridged foreign language dictionary on MS-DOS ($300), an unabridged bilingual dictionary on WinXP (not available elsewhere), a monolingual ($200) and a couple bilingual dictionaries ($300) that are 32-bit which I run on OS X 10.8. I still have Adobe Acrobat XI on 10.8. I pick earliest OS that the software supports to save on resources for when I'm running multiple VMs simultaneously. MS Office (for Visio, mainly) on Win 10. It would cost a couple grand just to replace all that software, so the preserving it with new but soon-to-be out-dated hardware is a strategy for me. There are few random things that require Rosetta on 10.6 for PPC translation. Plus, there are a whole host of other apps that run on Windows or Older OSes that occasionally save the day when you need to accomplish something.
    Since hardware can fail after it gets old anyway, I'd rather spend on hardware that can preserve the old software, rather than waiting a little while longer for Apple Silicon and taking the double-whammy of having to find completely new software solutions as well, which might exceed the cost of the new computer.

  • @Windsurfingaddict
    @Windsurfingaddict Před rokem

    Forward April 2023 and these are selling for a steel on EBay, like £500-600 and I’m still on the fence, this or M1 which is still holding its value

  • @jeromescott2113
    @jeromescott2113 Před 2 lety +5

    Now that the new 16” with M1 Pro and M1 Max is out this discussion may have changed for many. But unfortunately Apple silicon will take years to be fully supported by a majority of apps. The other issue is when you run Windows through Parallels, there are limitations because it’s using the ARM version of Windows. I purchased a 16” M1 Pro a few weeks ago, but I also purchased a 2019 i9 refurbished from Apple recently. The model I got retailed for $3,599 and I paid $2,438. My plan is to keep it around during the maturation of Apple silicon and hopefully there will be better support for the ARM version of Windows in the future. For now, I still need Boot Camp for applications like SSMS because it’s not supported by the ARM version of Windows. In a few years I’ll trade both devices and get a maxed out M3 Pro 16”. Definitely going to wait for refurbished for my next Mac purchase!

    • @richarddcrossley
      @richarddcrossley Před 2 lety

      Thank you for this. I spent ages trying to get SQL to install on Windows 10 ARM on M1 MacBook Pro. Unfortunately the specific version of W10 build you need to install to get it to work I can’t get anywhere. I had ordered a M1 Max 16 but after this issue cancelled. Picked up a brand new i9 2.4GHz (rest base spec) from IT Zoo for £1350 with 11 months of apple care included, a full spec 24 inch iMac with pro apps for family and said base M1 MacBook Pro for £900. M1 is awesome but loads of us are basically having to buy 2/3 computers to cover the next few years if we want M1 and x86 stuff 😂

    • @jackspring7709
      @jackspring7709 Před 2 lety

      I bought the macbook Pro 16" intel last summer and it's still the best laptop I've ever bought. For me the M1 would have been too "new" to consider waiting for in the sense that there may be compatibility issues and glitches here and there that would still need to be resolved: I can see from your comment that I was probably right about that. I don't have any problems with overheating or the sound of the fan on mine, either.

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 Před 2 lety +2

    I used to always buy the bigger MacBook pros for the better performance and larger batteries. When the 16" Macbook pro came out, the i9 version I bought was an obvious choice for me over the high end 13" version and I absolutely loved mine until I replaced with with an M1 MacBook earlier this year. The battery life was excellent and it was more than fast enough to be a desktop when I needed one. The M1 Pro I have is nearly as fast while being more portable and having much better battery life. That being said, if you need a high end Mac laptop with discrete graphics and the ability to run windows natively, then the 16" is still the only choice.

  • @misaki13e46
    @misaki13e46 Před 2 lety

    Just remembered that apple screwed up with the thermals on that models, switching to ARM help them to keep the same design without getting a considerable heat on use. Love the keyboard of the MBP 16 hope Apple fix some bugs related to speakers and stuff

  • @priyonjoni
    @priyonjoni Před 2 lety

    I love my 16”. It’s a powerhouse for editing. Until the 16” M1 with a dedicated GPU is released, this is still quite the machine.

  • @ruffprophetproductions

    I sold my base model last week. I’ll miss it a little, but got an m1 air for work. Probably going to build a crazy hackintosh later this year, unless m1x comes CRAZYY

  • @samuelnbrown
    @samuelnbrown Před 2 lety

    Hey Luke. Had an idea for a video you could do during these lean product times. Recently had to reexport an old docu project I did in Final Cut Studio. I had to do a 10.12 install on my MBP 2015. Was expecting the i7 with DG to crank through the editing and rendering compared to the Core2Duo I had at the time. The experience was shocking and it was obvious why. Would be fun to see you do a video that illustrates just how far pro editing has come using an apples to apples comparison (intended). Also just remembered, June was the 10th anniversary of FCPX. I know you love to experiment with old tech. (Sending from my 16". I can write youtube comments in silence, at least.)

  • @aryankhanna1940
    @aryankhanna1940 Před 2 lety

    Hey just want an opinion.... I'm planning to buy a base model m1 air for some video editing, some music production and other college stuff along with basics of blender....what do you say...also my budget is limited and maxed out to that price

  • @skarootz
    @skarootz Před 2 lety

    Put sections in your video to go directly to what I'm interested too. In this case, battery and heating.

  • @kentrelltaylor5697
    @kentrelltaylor5697 Před 2 lety

    I just bought my 16 inch Mac book pro with the I9 processor for audio engineering . works perfect!

  • @nonsecular13
    @nonsecular13 Před 2 lety +29

    Traded my 16 for the 24 iimac while the trade-in value was still decent

    • @hbbbhh1592
      @hbbbhh1592 Před 2 lety

      How much did you get for it?

    • @nonsecular13
      @nonsecular13 Před 2 lety +2

      @@hbbbhh1592 I have the base 16 and got 1410 not great but I bought it at a discount of $1900 new a few months ago

  • @stephenpapavassiliou1488

    Has anyone experienced an issue with laggy text with Automatic Graphics switching turned on?

  • @josued8a
    @josued8a Před 2 lety +2

    What about running VMs (real work Virtual Machines no Windows ARM)? Definitely that's why I didn't bought the M1 yet.

  • @fabianortiz1712
    @fabianortiz1712 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Got one couple weeks ago with the i9, 1tb and 64gb of ram for cybersecurity. Running windows bootcamp and kali linux on VM. So far so good

    • @magicthug9595
      @magicthug9595 Před 2 měsíci

      I bought this exact setup brand new off Amazon (in late 2020) it makes me sad to see the other new M3 Mac’s (m1 & m2 previously) getting so much praise, even hearing they will stop software updates for intel soon sucks. But I did purchase with intention to future proof, so like yourself my 16 inch 2019 mpb is 1 tb 64 gb ram. Only at 100 battery cycles, used to use my laptops alot before the pandemic and am getting back into video production again for my business. Look like this still is an amazing machine to me. Still have M3 envy. Just curious I spent 3500 on my set up brand new on Amazon. What did you pay you a few months ago for your new 2019 set up

  • @halami2149
    @halami2149 Před 2 lety

    Might need new thermal paste? I know it’s not that old but the stock thermal paste is usually not that good

  • @tomvreugdenhil1490
    @tomvreugdenhil1490 Před 2 lety +5

    I myself have the 2019 16" MBP with the i9 and use Bootcamp heavily for my engineering study. It is a great and powerful machine, but boy do the fans blast when using windows 10. I'm really looking forward to the new MacBook Pro's and can't wait until virtual machine software truly supports Apple Silicon in combination with an ARM-based version of windows 10.

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus Před 2 lety

      Weird, it makes you feel like Windows 10 is running in a VM.....

    • @tomvreugdenhil1490
      @tomvreugdenhil1490 Před 2 lety

      @@Argameus What do you mean? The performance in windows 10 is very good, the machine just gets hot easily.

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus Před 2 lety

      @@tomvreugdenhil1490 I have a much older Early 2013 15" Macbook Pro. The fans turn on the second I boot into Windows, with no program running. The experience just doesn't "feel" native.

    • @tomvreugdenhil1490
      @tomvreugdenhil1490 Před 2 lety

      @@Argameus You could check your temperatures using macsfancontrol in windows and determine if the fans could spin at higher temperatures only

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus Před 2 lety

      @@tomvreugdenhil1490 Thanks for the tip.

  • @victorrobles353
    @victorrobles353 Před 2 lety

    you're the only leaked products youtuber that i trust and also like :D

  • @AlejandroPirchi
    @AlejandroPirchi Před rokem +3

    I've found a 16" refurbished with i7, 32gb and 1tb for $1100 is it a good buy even in 2022?

  • @stanleychen3298
    @stanleychen3298 Před 2 lety

    My 2016 really underpowered dual core MacBook Pro is almost quiet all the time. I always thought my fan is broken

  • @anupammahato1
    @anupammahato1 Před 21 dnem

    hello luke, i have a question regarding buying a refurbished macbook should i buy a i9 5500m 1tb macbook or a base m1 air i do edit 4k videos and use lightroom, mostly on my laptops and occassionally watch movies

  • @mcmaskell
    @mcmaskell Před 2 lety

    hahahahaha that deep voice edit was so funny

  • @savage-goose
    @savage-goose Před 2 lety +1

    I got one of these for work brand new in December 21... clearly it had been on a shelf for a minute, but was NIB. 9750h, Radeon 5300, 2TB SSD. It's pretty good. I put Windows 10 on it, and about a month ago upgraded to Windows 11, and I really like the device... yeah it's big and heavy but 95% of the time it sits with the lid closed driving two 4K displays, which is does effortlessly.
    Would I buy one of these with my own money? Oh hell no, and basically no Mac for that matter, but as a device it's pretty good, even in mid 2022.

    • @brokenhero6828
      @brokenhero6828 Před rokem

      Ahhh you’re so lucky wish I could get one for free lmao

  • @LarryGanz
    @LarryGanz Před 2 lety

    Bought my 32GB/2TB 2.4Ghz i9 8-core 16" in March 2020, right before lockdowns, as I'd had my 2014 15" in the shop 3x over the previous 3 months (bad battery, then the E key and cmd-v stopped working, then bad battery again, and another bad one). I foresaw a shortage, and got the last one in town with more than 16GB/1TB without waiting 6 weeks. It's been great, and fast enough that I can use Parallels for a Windows 10 VM instead of boot camp, letting me still access my Mac apps without rebooting out of Windows. Yeah, the fans run a lot, but I can turn off turbo boost and the fans stop and it's cooler, at the expense of performance, which is okay when I need longer battery while mobile. With turbo boost on and plugged in now I'm at 57 degrees while having 50 Safari tabs open (not very common to not hear fans tho).

  • @MsKaren65
    @MsKaren65 Před 2 lety

    Now that the new laptops have dropped and you can get a loaded out 2019 Intel for 1500, can you update this to if it is still worth it in 2022?

    • @wenjiun88
      @wenjiun88 Před 2 lety

      @Somerandomgameplay just curious, why is that?

  • @harishkr1676
    @harishkr1676 Před 2 lety

    My macbook is getting hot when connected to an external monitor.is it OK

  • @MrDeano41
    @MrDeano41 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi bud. I’m interested in buying a 2019 16”i9 32gb 1 tb MacBook only for lightroom cc and photoshop. QCurrently using a 1st gen iPad Pro. Would this laptop be worth buying in 2023. I can’t afford a used m1 14” I’d only be using for photo editing and CZcams. And once updates stop for in tel comps can I still use the laptop. Great channel 👍

  • @LiveForLoss
    @LiveForLoss Před 2 lety +2

    Still rocking the 17 inch pro. I hope one day we can get 17 inch screen again.

  • @ronlevin2339
    @ronlevin2339 Před 2 lety

    You forgot another big problem with them - flashgate problem. And there is a new problem discovered now by Luis, related to screen suddenly dying, and taking also 3 chips with it

  • @northernsilverstacker1641

    I just bought a MacBook Pro 16" 8-core i9 2.3GHz 32GB RAM 1TB SSD 5500M 8GB Graphics for around $2,300 Canadian from eBay which was a great price in my opinion. I looked at these specs when the 2019's came out and they were around the $6000 dollar range so I'm very happy with my purchase.

    • @wenjiun88
      @wenjiun88 Před 2 lety

      have you compared with Macbook pro 16" M1 Pro?

    • @northernsilverstacker1641
      @northernsilverstacker1641 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wenjiun88 No, I only have the 2019 MacBook Pro...the M1 a little to pricey for me still. I've heard good this about the M1, super fast, hopefully I'll purchase it one day. I'm a prepper so right now I'm putting all my effort and money into food, precious metals and materials for homesteading. Computers are going to be the least of our worries in a very short time...soon you won't be able to get these sophisticated chips, the country that manufactures them will most likely stop producing them, I hope I'm wrong though!

  • @sidneypan2051
    @sidneypan2051 Před 2 lety

    I got an M1 MBA with 16GB of rams as soon as they started taking orders, and yet I still decided to get an Apple refurbished 16” with the 5600m last month

  • @keithwhisman
    @keithwhisman Před 2 lety

    Doubload and purchase a license for Mac's Fan Control and set up a maximum temp of around 150"F so it never gets real hot. I love mine, I have this same MBP

  • @jhugo1986
    @jhugo1986 Před 2 lety +1

    There’s quite a few in my area selling from 900-1200$. Honestly I’ll probably still pick one up. Don’t give a damn about some fan noise lol. I always have music playing in the background when working.

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 Před 2 lety

    I have an M1 MBA but love my 16" MBP.

  • @jzeaidrovo43
    @jzeaidrovo43 Před rokem +2

    I recently bought a MacBook Pro 16 i7 and with the Radeon 5500m for $725. I think it’s a smart purchase since it’s more powerful than the M1, you have the latest generation that will have touchbar and boot camp, in the long run it can be a relic for the world of Apple.

    • @abednego8304
      @abednego8304 Před 8 měsíci

      please where did you get it? I need to get mine.

  • @shanemitchellspencer
    @shanemitchellspencer Před 2 lety +1

    Ya know, you touched on my biggest gripe with M1 - as primarily a used Mac buyer it just obsoleted *all* options in larger screen size MacBooks. I would still consider this for gaming in Windows however. I really doubt the upcoming 14" MacBook Pro will be at a price I can afford. Starting at $1600 guaranteed.

    • @brokenhero6828
      @brokenhero6828 Před rokem

      Shane you’re good at predictions. $1999 starting price

    • @shanemitchellspencer
      @shanemitchellspencer Před rokem

      @@brokenhero6828 sadly. Still looking for which Mac to get 🙃

    • @brokenhero6828
      @brokenhero6828 Před rokem

      @@shanemitchellspencer Same boat lol! Been thinking of the 16 inch intel or the MacBook Air M2

  • @natepfeiffer5224
    @natepfeiffer5224 Před 2 lety +2

    The 16 inch is gonna go down as one of the best MacBooks of all time, as long as reliability issues don’t pop up over time. The keyboard doesn’t stick and has proper arrow keys, the touch bar… can be ignored, the display is as accurate as can be and huge as well, it has four high-speed thunderbolt ports and can be charged from both sides, it has a dedicated GPU, and so much more. It’s a zero-compromise laptop for a specific type of person.

  • @recordedanemone6399
    @recordedanemone6399 Před 2 lety +2

    He definitely deserves more subscribers

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 Před 2 lety +1

    Acquisition of the (rumored) 16" M1X MBP w/32 GPU cores, 64GB UM, 4TB SSD is plan A. I've no interest in another intel mac, though I have to admit the various intel Mac Minis and my trusty old 2012.5 15.4" MBP Retina (which I bought new and on which I am typing this) have been great machines, anything less than Apple Silicon with lots of memory and GPU cores would be a compromise. Purchasing any hardware which hasn't been designed for Apple's software to be optimized for and run on would be a just sad. I'm fortunate that having my old MBP and a base M1 Mini (purchased in February) reduces the urgency (though not the intensity) of my passion for the new MBP, so I can understand how someone could be at the point where they must buy something, and this video was a very good balanced and informative exposition of what using a 16" intel would be like as well as what prices one might expect on the used market. Thanks.