Thanks for the tip…., I picked up the B&H Autoload model 418…… yes, these are super, well made cameras!! I already had the B&H Zoomatic 8mm spool film version, and the 424 magazine unit. I like the 418 best! I really appreciate all that you folks are doing! I see you’re in Fairlawn, NJ……. I grew up in Teaneck, then Allendale. Last month I passed thru Fairlawn on the commuter train to Hoboken! Cheers!
Your B&H 426 is Beautiful! I wasn't aware of that model. 1960s Bell & Howells cameras are the most best looking cameras, in my opinion. I don't have enough experience with other camera brands to tell if they are also the best fonctional cameras but my 414 just works great.
Maybe, you don't but, I do, my Grandfather, had a regular 8mm, Super 8, 16mm camera before I was born. & slides,tape recordings, And records he didn't make them He bought them.
You can develope kodachrome 2 as black and white and it will give you an image still, but not saying itll be a perfect image but itll be an image none the less that you can use I know because ive shot a roll of 1978 old stock double 8 film and it still yielded a usable video albeit slightly faded but still useable
I have that first magazine 8 you showed….. its still sealed film I believe was used…. Is it possible it survived and can be developed? I use to develope all my film but this canister is not something ive seen so id be clueless doing it myself
Great Video Owen! I’ve often thought about making a video about these magazines. But I think you did it more justice than I would have. By the way maybe you know the answer to this question. In regards to the B&H magazines. What keeps the film from falling off the spool after you’re done with the first side? I’ve never understood how you could shoot side two with those. Anyway Keep up the great work guys!
You must use a full 33ft load of 8mm film for the B&H cartridges to work. The cameras are designed to stop shooting approximately 4 feet before the film runs out.
Owen M. McCafferty II Ohh I didn’t know that. Thanks for answering my question. Right now I’m reloading 16mm Kodak magazines. I’ve built a custom rewind system in my darkroom to specifically load 16mm magazines. It makes reloading magazines alot easier! Thanks again, Jesse
I have an old Keystone that uses magazine 8 and I would love to use it! I do have a question though: will you have more B&W and color reversal film in the future? I see you only have color negative available at the moment.
The FPP makes them available twice a year. filmphotographystore.com/collections/movie-film/products/double-8-film-magazine-8-bundle-film-develop-scan-color-negative-40-iso?variant=32547036037191
Not recommended to shoot old Kodachrome loaded into magazines (available on eBay). No development options and development as BW yields very poor results. Pick up a magazine from The FPP loaded with brand new film.
I have 2 magazines but don’t know if they are used or not. Is there a way to tell? Or do I just send them in to get developed? I’d like to know if there are old family movies on them or if they are blank. Thanks for your response!!
I just got a working Bell & Howell Model 172 for $5! I look forward to testing it with an FPP magazine. Do you guys have plans for making 16mm magazine film available on the FPP website?
hi, is it possible to load my own film into a kodakchrom II cassette? if it is possible what type of film should I find? And, since I live in Asia is it possible to get a freshly loaded cassette from you and I find a local lab by myself to develop and scan it?
Hi. With some care and patience it is possible to load the magazine yourself. We only offer the bundle services. I recommend purchasing a magazine on eBay and re-loading it with fresh FPP film (or Foma r100 which is available in most countries). - Mike
These are brilliant old tech. Personally, too fiddly for me. I'm going to be shooting short films and even Super 8 is short but at least I just pop out the cartridge and pop in another and saves time. But it is great for 8mm fans
What timing! I just received my 3 magazine 8 Kodachrome II magazines today. I plan to load them with FPP regula 8, using the complicated end of the Kodachrome II as a leader. Would my plan work?
On user-loaded rollfilm cartridges the camera will automatically stop after 25' of film has run through the camera (actually 29', since Kodak put an extra 8' of film on each roll to account for loading/film fogging, giving the user 25' of usable film). When that happens you flip over the cartridge and expose the second side. Each cartridge had notches to indicate to the camera whether it was on side 1 or side 2 (the Kodak Duex 8 cassette worked in the same fashion.)
Did anyone ever make a developing tank for straight 8? I can't seem to find one. Going to shoot pre-slit Sonic 25 in a bolsey 8 (using ortho so I can load the magazine under safelight), but I would prefer to not develop it in buckets.
Another great service by the FPP! Thank you, Owen, for sharing your expertise.
Thank you for all these info!!!!
Thanks for the tip…., I picked up the B&H Autoload model 418…… yes, these are super, well made cameras!! I already had the B&H Zoomatic 8mm spool film version, and the 424 magazine unit. I like the 418 best!
I really appreciate all that you folks are doing!
I see you’re in Fairlawn, NJ……. I grew up in Teaneck, then Allendale. Last month I passed thru Fairlawn on the commuter train to Hoboken! Cheers!
thank you! I found my grandpa's revere 8 model B-63 and couldn't figure out which film type it took.
Thank you for your video this is all new to me and I find it fascinating I must go shopping for an vintage movie camera
The FPP Group strikes again! You guys are amazing!
Do any of you folks have a history on Yashica magazine cameras? Especially the era of development for their first magazine models….?
How, just HOW, did I survive before the FPP?
Excellent explanation.
Your B&H 426 is Beautiful! I wasn't aware of that model. 1960s Bell & Howells cameras are the most best looking cameras, in my opinion. I don't have enough experience with other camera brands to tell if they are also the best fonctional cameras but my 414 just works great.
Maybe, you don't but, I do, my Grandfather, had a regular 8mm,
Super 8, 16mm camera before I was born. & slides,tape recordings, And records he didn't make them He bought them.
You can develope kodachrome 2 as black and white and it will give you an image still, but not saying itll be a perfect image but itll be an image none the less that you can use
I know because ive shot a roll of 1978 old stock double 8 film and it still yielded a usable video albeit slightly faded but still useable
Sorry - Fair Lawn
I tend to stay away from these 8mm magazine cameras because I can’t find a new, preloaded version of the magazines.
I have that first magazine 8 you showed….. its still sealed film I believe was used…. Is it possible it survived and can be developed? I use to develope all my film but this canister is not something ive seen so id be clueless doing it myself
Vintage film in your camera is old Kodachrome. Can no longer be processed as color.
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When will this be back in stock? I have a camera that takes these. Thanks!
Planned re-stock for August 17, 2023
Great Video Owen! I’ve often thought about making a video about these magazines. But I think you did it more justice than I would have. By the way maybe you know the answer to this question. In regards to the B&H magazines. What keeps the film from falling off the spool after you’re done with the first side? I’ve never understood how you could shoot side two with those. Anyway Keep up the great work guys!
You must use a full 33ft load of 8mm film for the B&H cartridges to work. The cameras are designed to stop shooting approximately 4 feet before the film runs out.
Owen M. McCafferty II Ohh I didn’t know that. Thanks for answering my question. Right now I’m reloading 16mm Kodak magazines. I’ve built a custom rewind system in my darkroom to specifically load 16mm magazines. It makes reloading magazines alot easier! Thanks again, Jesse
Wonderful video! How can you determine how much unused footage remains in a cartridge? Thanks.
There's a counter on the side of the camera.
I have an old Keystone that uses magazine 8 and I would love to use it! I do have a question though: will you have more B&W and color reversal film in the future? I see you only have color negative available at the moment.
Yes, we'll have both color & bw reversal restocked in 2023.
Hello. Do you know where can I find those film magazines?
The FPP makes them available twice a year.
filmphotographystore.com/collections/movie-film/products/double-8-film-magazine-8-bundle-film-develop-scan-color-negative-40-iso?variant=32547036037191
Awesome video, thanks, Is there a way to tell if the film has been used without opening the magazine?
Not recommended to shoot old Kodachrome loaded into magazines (available on eBay). No development options and development as BW yields very poor results. Pick up a magazine from The FPP loaded with brand new film.
I have 2 magazines but don’t know if they are used or not. Is there a way to tell? Or do I just send them in to get developed? I’d like to know if there are old family movies on them or if they are blank. Thanks for your response!!
How many minutes (secs??) Does 25ft of 8mm film produce? What is the length of the final movie using 25ft of 8mm film ?
A 25 foot roll (or magazine) produces 50 feet of viewable footage - about 4 min total.
@@FilmPhotographyProject thanks
I just got a working Bell & Howell Model 172 for $5! I look forward to testing it with an FPP magazine.
Do you guys have plans for making 16mm magazine film available on the FPP website?
16mm Magazines will be available this month (Nov 2020) - Mike
hi, is it possible to load my own film into a kodakchrom II cassette? if it is possible what type of film should I find? And, since I live in Asia is it possible to get a freshly loaded cassette from you and I find a local lab by myself to develop and scan it?
Hi. With some care and patience it is possible to load the magazine yourself. We only offer the bundle services. I recommend purchasing a magazine on eBay and re-loading it with fresh FPP film (or Foma r100 which is available in most countries). - Mike
@@FilmPhotographyProject thanks! what type should i get? double 8 or regular 8?
Would the bell & Howell magazine fit inside of a revere 8 model 44?
These are brilliant old tech. Personally, too fiddly for me. I'm going to be shooting short films and even Super 8 is short but at least I just pop out the cartridge and pop in another and saves time. But it is great for 8mm fans
What timing! I just received my 3 magazine 8 Kodachrome II magazines today. I plan to load them with FPP regula 8, using the complicated end of the Kodachrome II as a leader. Would my plan work?
You Can Do It! - Mike czcams.com/video/qztuEucrNBc/video.html
On the Bell & Howell magazine how do you keep the film attached to the spool on the first side before flipping it ?
On user-loaded rollfilm cartridges the camera will automatically stop after 25' of film has run through the camera (actually 29', since Kodak put an extra 8' of film on each roll to account for loading/film fogging, giving the user 25' of usable film). When that happens you flip over the cartridge and expose the second side. Each cartridge had notches to indicate to the camera whether it was on side 1 or side 2 (the Kodak Duex 8 cassette worked in the same fashion.)
Hi, it says its sold out already...has it not been made available yet? Or has it sold out already... if so, will there be more?
Says right on the product page - COMING SOON
FilmPhotographyPodcast I wasn’t sure if you hadn’t updated the discription, thank you.... I can imagine something like this selling fast...
Did anyone ever make a developing tank for straight 8? I can't seem to find one. Going to shoot pre-slit Sonic 25 in a bolsey 8 (using ortho so I can load the magazine under safelight), but I would prefer to not develop it in buckets.
What tank? filmphotographyproject.com/content/howto/2019/06/processing-movie-film-tank-manage/
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