Another odd thing about the show was when Sansa berated Theon and told him that he didn’t understand how badly Ramsey treated her. This was after Theon was starved, tortured, mutilated and the Bolton’s sent his manhood back to Pyke in a box.
That actually makes sense, remember Sansa has no in universe way of knowing what Theon has been through or that he’s minus one dick, all she knows is what she’s been through and she’s taking out her pain on someone who isn’t going to slap her for her trouble. Sansa is bratty and self centered and that was on full display in that scene.
Cathy Grandstaff Sansa has eyes and some sense though. When she first saw Theon after he was with Ramsey even a mental midget would be able to tell he’d been though something. His entire demeanor was different.
We don't want strong female characters and we don't want strong male characters - we want Strong Characters that are able to stand independent of their gender. We do not want ideologies forced down our throats👍😁
We want strong anthropomorphic trees goddamnit!!! We want the fucking weirwoods to start walking and taking part in political intrigue. And possibly fucking. I think, what I'm saying is I want to see trees fucking.
Dude we want realism. Ive never seen a woman do anything heroic that didnt serve her in some way(like saving HER child). Actually Ive never seen a woman do anything heroic. Mostly they stand around looking at the men saying "someone do something!!!".
Danaerys turning into everything she claimed to stand against at the end was the only thing I liked about Season 8. I don't understand all the people who say it came out of nowhere and that she was the protagonist/heroine of the show. There were clues all the way back in Season 1 that she was a hypocrite at heart and tons of foreshadowing about where her story was going to go. I actually started calling her the Mother of Marxists in Season 2 because that's what she reminded me of with her self righteous arrogance and all her rhetoric of "liberating" people only to enslave them herself - then I realized this was exactly what the writers were going for. She's clearly based on every real world Marxist dictator, from Che Guevara to Castro, Mao to Lenin etc, who lead a revolution to free the population from a tyrant (and sometimes not even a tyrant) only to turn out to be an even worse tyrant once they're in charge. It was clear to me as early as Season 2 that this was what her character represented so I wasn't surprised at all when it turned out that way. 🤷♂️
@@haydeng3316 - yeah, because the flipping of the switch couldn't have been more incompetent. All of S8 is full of hints that she'll lose her mind eventually, but hints don't necessarily make for a logical character arc (let alone a good one: the Targaryen often being lunatics had been known for ages; but maybe that's Martin's fault, he had vaguely told the writers how he'd end it eventually).
@@tjk3430 I know. I don't take him seriously because nothing about his composure and temperament say "my thoughts are respectable." Valid, perhaps, but not respectable.
NO NO NO, the little girl killed a giant and the 22 year old that plays a girl who is possibly still a teenager and looks like a twelve year old and had a sex scene killed the night kang!
@Kapitan Dupa I feel they missed a chance to have the hero be a teenage girl and keep it like real life. They could have had the teenage girl just come into the Godswood and shout at the Night King "Ah know you ain't fucking wi mai brother" all sassy and shit and then tell him "Cash me ouside...how bow da?" Then outside she could say to the Night King "What? you gonna hit a girl?" and all the on lookers could say "Dude, it's not OK to hit a girl" So he'd have to just stand there and take it as she shanked him with the dagger. Then all the other girls on Twitter could say "Yaassss, Queen, slay" and "Girrrrllll power" and be up lifted by the positive role model. Cause it's important that girls are shown constant positive role models or they all kill themselves or something...The end.
Sansa to Jon: "You Lost the Battle of the Bastards until I showed up with the Knights of the Vale!" Dany to Jon:"You would have died beyond the wall of it were not for me riding in to save you against Tyrions advice!" Arya to Jon:"You lost the Battle of Winterfell until I saved Bran from The Night King" Jon:"I wish that red woman never brought me back."
When Jon arrived at the wall, and began crying 'They knew what this was', I realized no matter how much plot armor he was given (and it was a LOT) he could never be the 'hero' I wanted. Every character was flawed and I could cheer for none. Ygritte to Jon: "We both know you don't have it in you".
@@BigBoiCannon briane is an excellent example of a real strong woman (and she looks the part!) She fought the Hound, and almost died and killed him by a tiny margin. She earned that victory with her effort and life of training.
@@eklektos44 I was always under the impression that Brianne was freakishly strong for a woman, kinda like how The Mountain in the books (and to a lesser extent, in the show) was described as being eight feet tall a built like a brick shithouse. They're both a couple of freaks and therefor unique.
Sansa's character is unearned. She was naive and got horribly abused, and seemed like she was starting to work her way through it and then they were just like "oh yeah, she's totally badass now."
Sansa’s character arc makes more sense if you read the books. In there, she’s in the Vale helping Baelish to rule there, how to manage a castle and money, the economy, how to subtly manipulate people. It would make for pretty boring TV if Sansa spends an episode listening to Baleish and his steward debate on the best time to sell grain and when the price is expected to rise. Baelish also sets up Sansa with a marriage to one of Robin Arryn’s cousins and so if all goes according to plan, she’ll be the heiress to both the North and the Vale. Which is how I think the Vale knights will come to the North if the books ever get finished. Sansa in the books is also a little more badass than Show Sansa. Book Sansa carries a dagger through the Red Keep and has to crawl through tunnels to escape Kings Landing. But because the show eliminated her chapters from Book 4, we never see Sansa develop into someone who can manage a castle and supplies and give orders to knights so it just comes across as jarring in the tv show
@Ragnar Redbeard well, I would argue that it's a matter of debate who won in that lightless room of hers, she may be fake Arya who just got her face and got her memories with faceless magic shenanigans.
my main problem is that if i hear them talk about being in a "man's world" one more time im gonna cringe into a black hole. Out of all the ruling kingdoms and houses that are left the only one ruled by a man is house Aryyn; House Greyjoy, Stark, Lannister (and the iron throne), Mormont, Karstark, Targaryen, (and previously Martells and Tyrells before they died from other women-led houses). So if anything, it's a matriarchal society and men are only needed as meatbags who can hold pointy objects and if Dany's complains one more time about the patriarchy then she better go complain to the Night king and get turned into the first human popsicle.
Jim Johnson Huuuhhhh yes and no. Bran currently doesn’t seem to have anything approaching an interest on mundane affairs apart from a comment once in a while. And Jon? I agree here, although if some reason had been delivered before (like a connection between the many faces god and the white walkers) that justified her doing that then it would have been ok, example either Beric Dondarrion or Dany killing the Night King would have been met with way way way less hate from the fan base than Arya doing it
@Jim Johnson Ok first lets get some of your facts straight, valyrian steel not dragonglass and Jon has never been confirmed (hopefully no one will ever be) to be the prince/princess that was promised or the reincarnation of Azor Ahai, and his/her role was never specifically said to be "kill the Night King", it merely and vaguely was to stop the long night. Apart from that YES goddammit it was incredibly stupid, and so stupidly and easily fixed. I have to laugh now to every time I commented "no don't celebrate! They will ruin any star wars series they are left in charge off!" at any star wars channel. That said I honestly don't think social justice is the cause of this problem as much of their love to show off whatever actor they prefer at the time, this opinion I got from the videos of the Dragon Demands in case you are interested.
Jim Johnson I mark the difference between Valyrian steel and dragonglass because blades made of Valyrian steel are pretty much magical weapons created on Valyrian by unknown methods (presumably magic and dragon fire) and dragonglass is just of natural origin. Beric was also resurrected (along with lady stone heart but she is besides the point), Mel also confirmed Stannis as being the prince that was promised and currently all the red priests and their moms at the other side of the Narrow sea confirm Dany is the princess (remember gender neutral noun) that was promised. And I don’t know why would being the son of a stupid prince and his stupid bride (that for some reason just couldn’t take the logical path to getting marriage) if anything it makes him candidate for “having” the vague song of ice and fire omitted on the show.
@Jim Johnson Jon was never confirmed to be The Prince that was Promised. Mel saying so doesn't make it true. Remember she thought that Stannis was originally The Prince that was Promised and look how that turned out. Jon getting resurrected doesn't automatically prove that he's The Prince that was Promised either. It only proves that the Lord of Light still had a use for Jon, much like Beric. In terms of your prophecy comment, how can you be sure that the prophecy wasn't fulfilled, but in a more subtle way. GRRM doesn't like obvious solutions to prophecies, and I'm sure he would have transferred that philosophy on to the showrunners. Having Jon or Danaerys be the Prince that was Promised could be seen coming from a mile away, and not GRRM's way. Now by no way do I think S8E03 was the pinnacle of story telling, quite the opposite actually. I think a threat that's been hyped up since the very first scene of the show shouldn't be dealt with so easily and in such a BS way. But my problem doesn't lie with Arya being the one to do it.
Noticed how everything male character no matter how Noble, brave or wise just gets on a downward spiral immediately they start hanging out with Daenery 👮
Dont know what you are talking about. Daario stayed pretty much the same, as did Greyworm (thought to be fair that guy never had much personality to begin with), as did Jorah, and as did Barristan. And Tyrion was on that spiral ever after killing Tywin.
@petulant for being actually strong and brave (in the most literal sense of the words). Game of Thrones takes place in a medieval-like setting, where women don't learn to fight with swords and other weapons. Brienne is one of the few female fighters (within the seven kingdoms) and she's also quite good at it. Yet, despite of being on the same level as guys like Jaime, the hound or Tyrell, she was never knighted because women aren't allowed to be knights in that universe. Brienne is the only female character where they can really bring in the gender issue: it's precisely because she isn't like the typical woman of her universe that they can put her on par with male characters of her similar (physical/fighting) characteristics, without giving two shits about her gender. Not like what they did with Sansa/Dany and Jon, where they basically made made him a fucking slave dog.
@petulant I think she gave a lot for that honour and knighthood stuff, but of course her love for Jaime was bigger. Then again, what could she do if he prefered his sister? 🤷♂️
@@bigfrikiI agree, if we were talking about the book Brienne. Here, Brienne is the type of knight who would kill someone and rub it in to someone who cares about that person. How does that make her better than the knights people always say she is better than? I don't even think of much on her victories against Jaime and the Hound since the odds were so high in her favor, it'd be too embarrassing if she still managed to lose.
I love GoT, but even I have to admit it's starting to become a tad annoying. We're not quite at Disney Star Wars level of cuckoldry, but it's been slowly gaining momentum since the TV writers started taking the story lead instead of GRRM.
@@TheSleepLes I was aware he identifies as a "male feminist". It's just he never injected the politics overtly in the earlier seasons. His female characters are flawed and have good story arc's, not some contrived "stunning and brave" nonsense.
@TheAutistWhisperer Agreed. I really enjoyed GoT books up to #4. After that his writing became tedious and uninspired. IMO. But I hear his input into how the series is run is very limited....might be a good thing.
But she looks younger then him? like John snow looks like he’s in his 30’s or 40’s at least yet she is portrayed as young and in her 20’s at most.Its a bit of oversight
@@hubertdenise3100damn that's harsh to kit Harrington. Also, I think he's meant to be a little less than a year older than her, due to the timeline of Robert's war. In the books they're 13/14 at the start, while the show aged them up to 16. The actors are the same age (36), so 24 at the start of the show.
Lyanna Mormont didnt listen to Jorah now their house is gone, over, caput. Nice one Lyanna good job. Just Imagine if Tywin was her dad he'd be mortified. You had one job to do succession of the family. Emotions over logic
I am still trying to figure out how that undead Giant managed to detect a 20-pound rat in all the chaos, its like the house is burning but i notice a fly in one of the corners...
Yea she failed at her only duty because of her pride and ego which resulted in the death of her house and entire bloodline. But she told off those old white guys so it was worth it.
@@WLxMusic What are you talking about exactly? Captain marvel is so much weaker in the comics than thor. Marvel themselves said that thor is much stronger than captain marvel. Watch a channel named thor talk he explains it very well. They made captain marvel so much stronger because she is a woman No other reason.
"Just look at marvel" there have been a total of 2 movies in the ten year history of the MCU that were not LEAD by a white male.......thats a problem to you? Seriously?
Game of thrones takes all the confident and strong men and turn them into docile broken shells. In the end all the good men will be dead and those in power will be eunuchs, dwarfs and women.
How many times have you been rejected in your life? Lmao. Two female characters literally begged male characters for something in the most recent episode lmao. I realize these videos make all you insecure men feel like you're smart and that it's all okay, but you're all reaching at straws.
@@t-bone6636 okay, keep trying to find external reasons as to why your life isnt the way you want it. Pretty sure while we spend our time arguing over TV shows, the people that "control" us do as they want any way. But please do explain how this is doing it. When grrm is still producer in the show.. Funny that it's suddenly all this "politically correct" bs when all this political correct bs is the new thing to get views easily.
@@billybilson7654not sure what to answer, im not arguing over tv shows anyway. it was just a thought that came to my mind recently. and its true what is happening. also you know a "nothing" from a live just by reading a comment. fine?
Brienne was a "strong female character" done right in a time of too many Mary Sues. Her knighting was beautiful, well deserved and one of my favorite parts of this season so far.
Yeah I think it was by accident though. The show makers thought we'd engage with her being knighted because she's a woman, but we loved it because she earned it.
@@haydeng3316 Brienne beating the Hound is pure plot induced stupidity. This dude has been shown throughout the show to be second only to The Mountain in terms of strength & was stated to be one of the best warriors in the 7 Kingdoms & she overpowered him. Like literally just overpowered him. That's rubbish. She can win, that's fine, but it needs to be choreographed better & more believable.
Funny thing is, chivalry had NOTHING to do with wimmin. It was a code of honor between knights and their duels. But yeah, women killed chivalry, then romance, then marriage.
The female character should be strong IN SPITE of the presence of strong and even stronger male characters, not because of the absence of any strong male or stronger male characters. That’s good writing
This is far more universal: protagonist is credible only in face of competent antagonist. "Show, don't tell" - B class movie like Predator did this marvelously. First they establish Dutch's team as total badasses and then shows them outclassed, cornered despite their active, best efforts.
Believable characters that audiences can relate to is better writing. I read the books--the characters were half and half in that regard. Many things happened out of the blue. Oh, and ALL of the Starks were incomprehensibly stupid.
The only problem I have with it is that technically she is already a knight. She was a member of the Kingsguard. That not only makes her a knight, but an elite knight.
@@danagray9709 They tend to forget a lot of things out of convenience for implementing "cool ideas" they thought up. it really did begin to detoriate when they had to come up with writing themselves but Im too invested in the show already not to watch the series till end
@@GlueTubber that was Varys. No wait, i always thought Varys to be an unsullied when i heard they lost root and stem as well. So yes, you are correct. At least that proves its not balls that make a man look at a naked woman (scene where he spies on bathing Misandei).
I think one of the things that really bothered me about the last few seasons is that all of these women were already such richly drawn out, powerful (in their own right) female characters. The writers could have easily created authentic story arcs for each of them that would have portrayed them equally as strong, but far less contrived.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen. No one talks about how Hollywood is stuffing their social political agenda in every frame of media. Good on you for calling them out.
I knew the show was doomed the moment they could no longer rely on the original writer. Martin was the one who made Game of thrones so great to begin with.
if you say Star wars went to SJW, I agree. If you say MCU is going in the path of SJW, I'll agree that as well. But if you say GoT becomes SJW, I strongly disagree. If it's being forced we can feel it. Don't let that happen by accusing it. "If you say it, They will make it ".
@@hareendrangangadharan6974 It's not as blatant as Star Wars or the MCU, but it's clearly there. Just a small example to start is Daenerys trying to appeal to Sansa with that whole "We're both strong women in a man's world" speech...when they seem to forget about all the other female leaders like Olenna Tyrell, Cersei, Lyanna Mormont, Ellaria Sand, Asha/Yara, and so on. Also, in season 5, one of the sand snakes kills Areo Hotah in one attack...and he's like this legendary warrior that guards Prince Doran. I have a dozen more examples, but I doubt you actually care to hear them. The point is the show writers have a weird agenda where they want to portray certain characters as weak and foolish (Jon) and other characters as flawless and amazing (Arya). Don't even get me started on how they killed Stannis offscreen or turned Tyrion into a moron that's constantly made a fool of by Daenerys.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who had made this observation. I watched the 3rd episode and WOW. The STAMINA of these women, as they swing their swords, and fist fight off the attackers is OFF the CHARTS. I was sickened by the weakness of the men and the OVERPOWERED women.
The weakness of the men? Grey Worm, Jaime, Tormund, Gendry, Pod, Theon, Jorah, Jon, the Hound and fucking Samwell Tarly all fought for a ridiculous amount of time, non-stop. The show has gone to shit in general, and its nothing to do with feminism.
@@saulgoneman Also, how the fuck did Sam fucking fatass Tarly survive? Like, wasn't he like swarmed by a flock of dead fucks trying to eat him or summat?
@@saulgoneman Samwell was just a crybaby. About the others, well. Lets take 1 example, lets go for grey worm. He is strong at being a dumb brute. But weak as in he need to follow orders and can find no purpose in life other then to follow khaleesi. Which makes him a weak person. This weak mindendness can be applied to all men in GOT these days. All TRUE power lies with woman, this was not the case when the series started. It is a SJW feminist freak show these days
I love your take on this. Especially, that in order to make the women stronger, they weaken the men. The writing seems different this season. Did they the author not finish his ending yet, so other writers came in to finish up?
end of season 4 was the end of the books, and u can notice inthe writing... maybe it was season 3? i forget.... but u can see the writing goes to shit at the end of season 4.
@@cathygrandstaff1957 "hasn't gotten this far"......and he never will. If the book ever gets finished it will be by someone else. Just consider it done, it will never be the same as if it was finished all in one go. I think Martin really got in over his head with too many characters and lines that go nowhere. I really can't see it picking up again like the same story after 15-20 years. He's a bit old too, time is not on his side. HBO followed loosely and then made up their own condensed version. I'm expecting a pretty anti-climatic ending. Kind of like... the ominous meeting of Bran and theNOPE!
@@yourhandlehere1 I personally dont believe him that it was meant to go part Red Wedding. I think Feast and Dance are additional books for money. Even GRRM doesnt wanna write it anymore. Let alone D&D.
Don't worry. Realists didn't like the battle that followed. Historians didn't like the battle that followed. Hard core fans didn't like both. So pray tell me: if we have such strong women leaders in winterfell why didn't they realise the battleplan was stupid and try to fix it? They could've just hired a random medieval warfare junkie who could've made the fight much better. Like if they'd have paid me $100+ less soldiers would've died and aside from the walkers the battle would have been won quite significantly. Come the walkers that'd be a whole new full plate harness to crack but it could've been done. Yes it would Not have been as dramatic but I can't tell you how meny times in s8e3 I was like that's dead to be surprised in the next cut that nope they ain't.
Bc David and Goliath isn't a well know story.. Or is it because it was a little girl? Is that why it's such a bad move? Cliche' happens all the time (rarely on thrones) , get over yourself.
S J. ikr. it's mainly that she's a tiny ass kid. imagine that character was a 10 year old boy the whole time. it'd be just as retarded. how in the hell does some kid become so bad ass and have their own adult following they can command and is listened to by all the other adults. truly is a fantasy world. the fact that it's a girl just makes the kid all the more weak, fragile, afraid. yet no, theses little girls are bad asses.
Thank you for pointing out the ridiculous feminist theme in GoT. It gets worse with each episode. They act as if this theme has NEVER been done before, and that they are so groundbreaking. The fact is, every piece of entertainment spat out by Hollywood for the past many years has always had a strong female empowerment theme. It just seems like the more feminist drivel that comes out, the more the idiots say "It's about time we had female representation in movies!". It's just going to get worse I fear, as well. I feel like 2020 is going to be the worst year ever due to the political climate. Modern entrainment is dead.
@@herbertcamacho1461 "You know nothing" Herbert Camacho. The author hasn't finished the books yet and his writings have only influenced I think up to Season 4. Season 5 and on has been Hollywood's own writing, and as you see with those Seasons, the female empowerment becomes stronger and stronger.
A lot of GRRM’s well written female characters like Arianne Martell, Alys Karstark, Val and Anya Waynwood are cut or only appear for a line or two. And some others like Brienne and Ellaria Sand have a complete personality change. Show Brienne is a lot more brusque and cynical than her book counterpart. Show Ellaria is a revenge before reason harpy opposed to her pleas to stop the cycle of revenge in the books. Both coincide with source material ending and the writers having to pick up the reins
I genuinely believe Brienne deserved that knighthood. She has been always loyal and faithful to her peers. She has weaknesses, she can be hurt, she gets beat up. I dont have a problem with her honestly
Hoping that as well. If they gloss over the potential conflict between Her & Jon over his birthright, then we know how cucked the show is. It’s certainly lost alot of it’s balls since it ran out of books to draw from. It’s why, all of a sudden, the story beelined it to the war with winter. They just didn’t know what to do, aside from the major story beats that Martin had advised them on. What they need to do is have Her get all “It’s my throne!” Jon be like, “I don’t care. Just stay out of my way, while I fight the Night King.” Her get all Mad Queen paranoid & set him up to die in battle, but the dragons save him against her will. Then he’s gonna have to stab her with his fucking sword when she flips out over it, because that’s what Azor Ahai has to do right? If they make her Azor Ahai, then they can just fuck right off. It’s gotta be Rhaegar’s kid...it’s what the whole fucking story has been building up to for christ’s sake.
@@lionofthemorning7997 Interesting proposition there, friend. Jon driving Longclaw through Daenerys's heart would be an interesting parallel to the Azor Ahai myth. I'll be crossing my fingers you're correct, but I guess this depends solely on how cucked the writers are, how hard Martin set his foot down, and last, but not least, what exactly Martin has in mind for the ending. I'd like to hope he's still got his shit in gear, at least.
@@corsicanlulu Yeah, he definitely talked about being at least "as much as a feminist a man could reasonably be". Even so, he's a logical feminist, not a shove unrealistic superwomen down your throat kind of feminist. His stories involve women overcoming hardship realistically in a world stacked against them, which the medieval era really was. But it's never without consequence or without sacrifice. GRRM knows how to do it right, unlike those bumbling morons Dan and David.
I predicted it back in 2015 "feminism will ruin GOT" and here we are... Male characters known to be bold and succesful now failing at every corner... It's a joke
We are in "reversed era" unfortunately. Slaves became masters and their hatred built up over the centuries is shown. Males? White? You got into huuuuge trouble. Its not just characters. Right now you cant even talk or do anything the normal way as we live in "liberal dictatorship" and while it wont execute you it will use public (social) pressure to torture you into suicide or homeless and hopeless situation. Unfortunately, thats the picture of nowadays world.
My brother and i have noticed this as well, plus some other little things like Arya saying "Sansa is the smartest person i know" while Sansa saying "Arya is the strongest person i know" it's like it's all just women blowing smoke up each other's asses! I'm honestly waiting for them to insinuate that the Night King is somehow like Trump.
Trump is a liar , he didn't do what he said but I knew he wouldn't he's just a Jewish puppet . Oh and kid take a look who directs the show ! And our central bank and every single media outlet ! Jews !
I feel like the men have all become sheeplings. They are cuddly and fuzzy, and they all like eachother, and they hug a lot, and they cry a lot. They all have become friends. What, you murdered my entire house? Well, let's hug that out. While the women behave like the men would have behaved in seasons 1-5.
If any woman watches the show and thinks it's empowering then I feel sad for you. I feel sad that you missed out on great female characters like Book Brienne, a character who struggles in a medieval world ruled by men but still stands by her believes of chivalry and honor. Or on Book Sansa who after having her whole perception of the world as a fairy tale brutally shattered and stomped upon for years finally decides she's had enough and steps into the game. Or on book Ellaria who sees beyond the folly of war and wishes to end the cycle of revenge that might get her whole family killed. Instead you get caricatures of what female empowerement is. Female characters that go "boys are dumb" only to immediately follow with "Kit harington is short tee hee". You got a cyborg ninja prop that lacks any personality whatsoever. You got a female character who looks smart and people inform you that she is "the smartest person you've ever known" that instead got easily played for an entire season by the most sleaziest character in the whole show until her omniscient brother bailed her out from killing her own sister. You got a female character who avenges her family by killing the rest of her family and going "wEAk mEn SHalL nOt rULe DorNe aGAiN nyaaaah". You get a bunch of female characters acting like what male producers believe is female empowerement, and end up creating a mockery and meme out of it.
I agree they need a woman to do a man job,who else but a woman will kill the night king the greatest evil guy in the universe and they close the chapter on him like he was just another bad guy not THE bad guy.BTW you know you have Slovenian blood? at least by your last name i can tell you that.
The character arc for most of the female characters in GoT have been pretty decent, and while there has been a strong under current of feminism in recent media I don't think it has really done too much damage to the show thank goodness. But Daenerys... let's face it, she's only 'powerful' because of the dragons. She behaves live a petulant brat most of the time, and I've never really understood her apparent appeal, or what inspires people (much stronger and better people at that) to follow her. I don't really rate Emilia Clark much in this role personally, and if it wasn't for the strong supporting cast that props her up, I'd be a lot less interested in the show. I really don't want to see her on the throne in the end!
I agree that some of the issues come down to the actors. Emilia Clarke is woefully overrated as an actress, while Sophie Turner's only saving grace is that she's pretty to look at. Unfortunately she possesses all the screen presence and charisma of a wet rag. God knows what would happen if she and Brie Larson starred in the movie together - the universe would probably cringe itself out of existence.
The way she dimmised tyrion even though he fought in battles and humiliated him in front of everyone was disgraceful. He is by far the best character in the whole GoT series.
You forgot the nice scene where the translator girl wants to socialize with some local girls and they turn away, and the eunuch soldier comes up to her and says: "There is no place here for us!" We need some hinting at racism too, not just sexism! Anhow, the main problem with the show simply was that it was excruciatingly boring ...
I didn’t take the scene that way. I think the girls shunned them because they weren’t from the North, the same way Tyrion, Jaime and the rest are regarded. Grey Worm and Missandei didn’t seem to want to linger in Westeros either.
You may be right, the problem is that once things from a specific perspective repeat (identity pol), those interpretations come way more easily, i.e. heap of sand... It may very well have absolutely nothing to do with racism, although I would add, the way those girls reacted, would have been different to the "Northener/Southener" differences, i.e. they reacted uncomfortable, irritated and almost fearful and just wanted to get away, instead of confrontational, mistrustful or oppositional. But still, yeah, it might be completely harmless. My bet in the context though, would be otherwise. Additionally, Grey Worm and Missandei can still wish to live somewhere else, yearn for their home country, don't like the climate, may not like the crude culture of the North, or whatever, without a "There is no place here for us" in reaction to people reacting negatively to Missandei.
That didn't have anything to do with their skin color, but they were clearly not of the North. That's a running trend in the show that the Northerners keep to themselves.
Noted that as well. Little girls especially would be fascinated by her hair, because that's how little girls are. Besides, they were the ONLY females portrayed in a bad light, and the difference was race, not gender, that was being pointed out.
Everyone was expecting John to kill the Night King, of course that couldn't happen. Arya makes sense, she's a trained assassin. I've noticed a lot of the anti-SJW types do everything they accuse feminists of doing, they view everything through the lens of, 'In what light does this portray men?' It's sad.
Go Woke, Go Broke. Great video with great insight. The writers felt the need to inject their social justice into a show that took place eons ago and their efforts destroyed a once epic show that I used to enjoy.
You guys realize that ONLY women are ruling by this point? > Dany wants to have the iron throne > Cersei HAS the iron throne > Dorne king was killed by 4 women > Sansa is (Queen?) of the north > Arya is deus ex machina
To be fair to Arya, she had 8 seasons building up her skills. Calling her a Deus Ex Machina is a disservice to her character and what her character went through - getting to Essos, training with the faceless men, becoming blind, getting stabbed, overcoming her faceless opponent, etc.
I haven't watched any of this new season yet, but I understand with and agree with this assessment. I've especially soured on Dany. She acts like a major badass, when she herself is very weak and pointless. She'd have died a dozen times over if it weren't for one of the strong warriors or one of her dragons saving her. And by the end of the last season, most of the main female characters were just annoying in how they were so full of themselves and proud. The only one I could stomach was Brienne, because she'd at least earned the right to be proud of herself and actually _is_ powerful. But otherwise, it's really just regressed into Game of Estrogen. And frankly, I saw it coming way back in that awful Dorne plotline.
@Kapitan Dupa - Yeah, I mean on the show, too. In the books, things are wildly different. Good reference with young Ned's line, though. It really does fit pretty well.
Sansa was not only manipulated by Joffrey but as soon as she thought she would marry loras she went back to season 1 episode 1 sansa. Have always hated her character and don't buy her Ark.
Same. You need way more time to develop someone so obnoxious to be believable but made her Little Finger jr in less than a season. Jaime was a douche but they took several seasons and a severed hand to make him likable.
Brienne being knighted was a deserved move if you read the books. She is the only one to encapsulate the traits of classic knighthood. And it was okay that way. The other things you said I see your point of view. Yeah.
The one thing the show has been pretty consistent with is the idea that being over-confident in your abilities or abusing a position of power leads to either losing everything you value and/or death, If that theme continues, it doesn't bode well for many of the female characters at this point. We shall see.
@@FeralLogic I think this would be very interesting considering he allies. Tyrion, Vayres and The Unsullied are all with her because she is supposed to be better. If she shows that she is just as bad as the ones who came before, they could have some interesting internal conflict.
@@mtheoryftw there's been a few times she was going to cause a lot of unnecessary deaths to innocents. Tyrion and Jon both told her if she did, she's the same as the rest of them. Tyrion has been uneasy with her for a while. I was really hoping that Sam would be so against her for killing his father and brother that she sentences him to die and Jorah kills her to repay Sam for saving his life. Since that can't happen, I want Jon to kill Dany to protect Sam!
I Iiked denarys story but seriously she never works for anything instead she gains everything just cuz of her bloodline Jorah was a much better character
From birth her brother had drilled the idea into her head that the throne belonged to them and that their only mission in life was to get it back. She doesn't think she needs to earn it. In her mind, her rightful throne had been stolen from her, and in a way it actually was.
yeah its the child character. shes sounding more like viserys each week. people are pissed about the NK but at least with arya she was connected to her father, brother and mother dying. got traded as a slave, kidnapped then blinded and almost died twice. at least her arc has adversity that makes sense in creating her character now.
@@jackh9708 aria's story was my favorite until she went to bravos God that part was sooo boring and bullshit And after it she turned into this annoying little cunt jeez and i haven't even seen anything from s8 yet
She won the Battle of the Bastards for Jon by manipulating Peter Balish. She played stupid for Joffrey after realizing what kind of person he was so she could survive, and possibly assassinate him herself at some point until Margery came into the picture. She motivated Theon into reverting back to his old self while being under Ramsay's thumb. In this latest season though, yeah I'd have to agree with you there. She's pretty much done nothing but bitch and moan.
She's done a couple useful things, but it seems like the majority of the time she's there to get used by someone or to whine about something for the sake of petty conflict. I honestly can't stand her character. Best thing she's done is admit that she's useless.
"Then Daenerys sits down for a chat with Sansa to see if they can pass the Bechdel test together." Every time I think I've heard my favorite sentence of yours, a new video comes along and proves me wrong lmao. EDIT: "bland, vacant piece of milk toast" should not be so fitting, but it is, so thank you for broadening my insult inventory.
Well now it is clear. The writers not only dislike the men but the dislike the women as well. smh. They don't like any of the characters. Men. Women. Eunichs.
Honestly GoT started falling flat for me around season 6 when they started running out of source material and started writing for the show revolving around political agendas. The show used to be good because of how much of a subversion to the typical fantasy drama. Now with last season its basically pulling every cliche and predictable fan service in a rushed sloppy mess to finish the show sacrificing an interesting story and good character developments/resolutions.
Jaime wanting to fight alongside Brienne would have been one of the few things that would have made sense because he respects her but the writers couldn't even get that relationship right. However, one (of the many) scenes they completely ruined for his character was the first scene in Winterfell with Dany. I was really looking forward to them actually discussing her father's death, because Jaime always made it very clear that he never regretted what he did and knew it was the right thing to do, and Dany is facing her father's murderer, while already knowing her father was a tyrannt. It could've been such an amazing, intelligent scene and they completely butchered it. They made him look pathetic and her like a petulant child, I actually cringed watching it. Failing this one important meeting was such a shitty thing to do to both characters.
Never seen a show rise so high to fall so low. This was no mediocre show. It had one of the worse endings I've ever seen. Another victim of the "subverting expectations" bullshit that is passing for genius writing nowadays. So much potential. What a waste.
ha ha I totally AGREE with you! I love the show so much though... However, recently I watched season 7 on my mom's DVR to catch up on the previous season and the Directors had a special where they talked about how they didn't mean to put all the women in one room trying to workout the stragedies... but they were really proud of themselves that they did... I was like Oh Boy... it's going all Feminist on me... I hate SJW shit too! it was a good scene until they reminded me what you were doing to my fav show! I'll still watch the End of GOT... but I agree with you about the Mother of Dragons... she was my fav character until she became power hungry and became what she said she didn't want to be.... John Snow is my favorite however Arya is amazing right now!
In a way its fitting, they unknowingly revealed the truth of what they and there fellow ideologue leftists/marxists sjw's are....and what they are is literally every single thing they claim to stand against,racism/"intolerance"/anti science etc. so It made sense why Danerys turned into that,shes a metaphor for feminists/Leftists/neo marxists liberals.
Got real bad in s7 but still had stuff to reveal and plotting, even if not as good. There was always the idea that next season can flip what you thought they were building, one season of this isn't a big deal, leaving room for denial. But they havent flipped it and s8 is so empty. All there is to see before you is the fan service they've been doing.
@@Arcanecide Meh, perhaps. However, in reference to _other_ movies, TV shows, books, radio programs, video games, cars, business practices, toys, politics, vacations, greenhouse gases, education, sexual orientation, religious preferences, international trade practices, common sense, _pick your poison,_ I'm getting sick and tired of the phrase "It's like _Game of Thrones,_ except ______ " being used as a basis to describe _everything_ under the fucking Sun. Those God-damned shallow-minded Millennials and their reality TV-level intelligence are gonna destroy the world. And that's not even to bring up how "finish [them/it] rightly" is now a meme and apparently has some connection to modern day chivalry?
If you like gritty story lines with real, flawed characters, you'd be hard pressed to do better than GOT. Don't let this turn you off. George R.R. Martin is a lazy bastard, but what he wrote was great and the show has done a great job of keeping in line with his original vision.
@@danagray9709 Honestly, that's not very appealing to me right now. What I'd really like to see is something more uplifting, encouraging and hopeful; something to help escape from the gritty stories and flawed characters of reality for a bit.
Tyrion is even been made out to look like an idiot with terribly planned military offensive tactics... etc.. Went from smart to stupid.. thanks ladies..
Part of the hilarity is that Sansa's entire rise to power is that she doesn't die. She doesn't do anything of note. And would they ever bring up that Tyrion is legally her husband, even though they never consummated?
Another odd thing about the show was when Sansa berated Theon and told him that he didn’t understand how badly Ramsey treated her. This was after Theon was starved, tortured, mutilated and the Bolton’s sent his manhood back to Pyke in a box.
Don't you know that only whamen suffer ? C'mon.. what's wrong with you ? lol
Sansa did it to herself and started the entire war between the Starks and Lannisters when she sided with Joffery in season 1, karma is a bitch.
tomtom255 I’m not a real Sansa fan but I thought Catelyn had a fair part in starting things when she kidnapped Tyrion.
That actually makes sense, remember Sansa has no in universe way of knowing what Theon has been through or that he’s minus one dick, all she knows is what she’s been through and she’s taking out her pain on someone who isn’t going to slap her for her trouble. Sansa is bratty and self centered and that was on full display in that scene.
Cathy Grandstaff Sansa has eyes and some sense though. When she first saw Theon after he was with Ramsey even a mental midget would be able to tell he’d been though something. His entire demeanor was different.
We don't want strong female characters and we don't want strong male characters - we want Strong Characters that are able to stand independent of their gender. We do not want ideologies forced down our throats👍😁
We want strong anthropomorphic trees goddamnit!!! We want the fucking weirwoods to start walking and taking part in political intrigue. And possibly fucking. I think, what I'm saying is I want to see trees fucking.
@@WLxMusic it worked for Tolkien
@@WLxMusic still a better plot than the *long* night
Dude we want realism. Ive never seen a woman do anything heroic that didnt serve her in some way(like saving HER child). Actually Ive never seen a woman do anything heroic. Mostly they stand around looking at the men saying "someone do something!!!".
You don't have to worry about not wanting strong male characters.
there aren't any.
"Honestly wish she becomes a villain"
Joke's on you mate
They turned her in the worst possible way😂😂😂😂
I was no young and naïve back then...
Let us all remember that season 8 exists and it shouldn't
@@orangejuice1813 it doesnt
Danaerys turning into everything she claimed to stand against at the end was the only thing I liked about Season 8. I don't understand all the people who say it came out of nowhere and that she was the protagonist/heroine of the show. There were clues all the way back in Season 1 that she was a hypocrite at heart and tons of foreshadowing about where her story was going to go. I actually started calling her the Mother of Marxists in Season 2 because that's what she reminded me of with her self righteous arrogance and all her rhetoric of "liberating" people only to enslave them herself - then I realized this was exactly what the writers were going for. She's clearly based on every real world Marxist dictator, from Che Guevara to Castro, Mao to Lenin etc, who lead a revolution to free the population from a tyrant (and sometimes not even a tyrant) only to turn out to be an even worse tyrant once they're in charge. It was clear to me as early as Season 2 that this was what her character represented so I wasn't surprised at all when it turned out that way. 🤷♂️
@@JadeRunner Sure buddy you keep believing that.
Anyone here after danys mass murder spree? Lol he totally called it
Same ... That Bitch Went Rogue
It couldn't have been more obvious.
and then claimed it made no sense in that review...
He said she wasnt a good character anymore and she was more like a bad guy, smart writing?.
@@haydeng3316 - yeah, because the flipping of the switch couldn't have been more incompetent. All of S8 is full of hints that she'll lose her mind eventually, but hints don't necessarily make for a logical character arc (let alone a good one: the Targaryen often being lunatics had been known for ages; but maybe that's Martin's fault, he had vaguely told the writers how he'd end it eventually).
this guy must be pissed by now after watching the third episode
He must be LIVID.
Emphasis on "this guy" and "he." Not most people.
@@tjk3430 I know. I don't take him seriously because nothing about his composure and temperament say "my thoughts are respectable." Valid, perhaps, but not respectable.
@@tjk3430 A lot of people are unhappy
Who isn't ?
And the little girl just saved the day by shanking the Night King right in his pay gap with a shard of purest feminism.
NO NO NO, the little girl killed a giant and the 22 year old that plays a girl who is possibly still a teenager and looks like a twelve year old and had a sex scene killed the night kang!
@@travosymir3188 Oh, yes, my bad. I think we can all agree on one thing...thank God for the girls. Where would we be without them?
@Kapitan Dupa I feel they missed a chance to have the hero be a teenage girl and keep it like real life.
They could have had the teenage girl just come into the Godswood and shout at the Night King "Ah know you ain't fucking wi mai brother" all sassy and shit and then tell him "Cash me ouside...how bow da?"
Then outside she could say to the Night King "What? you gonna hit a girl?" and all the on lookers could say "Dude, it's not OK to hit a girl" So he'd have to just stand there and take it as she shanked him with the dagger. Then all the other girls on Twitter could say "Yaassss, Queen, slay" and "Girrrrllll power" and be up lifted by the positive role model. Cause it's important that girls are shown constant positive role models or they all kill themselves or something...The end.
Yessss!!!!!! That was fucking hilarious
Zank heavens for little girls.
Sansa to Jon: "You Lost the Battle of the Bastards until I showed up with the Knights of the Vale!"
Dany to Jon:"You would have died beyond the wall of it were not for me riding in to save you against Tyrions advice!"
Arya to Jon:"You lost the Battle of Winterfell until I saved Bran from The Night King"
Jon:"I wish that red woman never brought me back."
When Jon arrived at the wall, and began crying 'They knew what this was', I realized no matter how much plot armor he was given (and it was a LOT) he could never be the 'hero' I wanted. Every character was flawed and I could cheer for none.
Ygritte to Jon: "We both know you don't have it in you".
Briann never beats the Hound in the books.. so yes...
The book already had strong main woman characters. No need to degrade all the guys....
i acctually enjoyed that fight because it wasn't obvious that Brienne was better than him. She just got lucky punches and won.
@@BigBoiCannon briane is an excellent example of a real strong woman (and she looks the part!) She fought the Hound, and almost died and killed him by a tiny margin. She earned that victory with her effort and life of training.
Briann would have been chopped to bits by a 5'6" Renaissance infantryman. That's simply reality, unless one buys into SJW twaddle.
@@eklektos44 I was always under the impression that Brianne was freakishly strong for a woman, kinda like how The Mountain in the books (and to a lesser extent, in the show) was described as being eight feet tall a built like a brick shithouse. They're both a couple of freaks and therefor unique.
eklektos44 she’s as much of a man as most of the men in the show. So. Umm. Yaah
Sansa's character is unearned. She was naive and got horribly abused, and seemed like she was starting to work her way through it and then they were just like "oh yeah, she's totally badass now."
Sansa’s character arc makes more sense if you read the books. In there, she’s in the Vale helping Baelish to rule there, how to manage a castle and money, the economy, how to subtly manipulate people. It would make for pretty boring TV if Sansa spends an episode listening to Baleish and his steward debate on the best time to sell grain and when the price is expected to rise. Baelish also sets up Sansa with a marriage to one of Robin Arryn’s cousins and so if all goes according to plan, she’ll be the heiress to both the North and the Vale. Which is how I think the Vale knights will come to the North if the books ever get finished. Sansa in the books is also a little more badass than Show Sansa. Book Sansa carries a dagger through the Red Keep and has to crawl through tunnels to escape Kings Landing. But because the show eliminated her chapters from Book 4, we never see Sansa develop into someone who can manage a castle and supplies and give orders to knights so it just comes across as jarring in the tv show
Ray Murphy , and somehow she suddenly became the smartest person arya knows lmao. Pathetic
@Ragnar Redbeard well, I would argue that it's a matter of debate who won in that lightless room of hers, she may be fake Arya who just got her face and got her memories with faceless magic shenanigans.
Sansa's arc makes more sense than all other females on the show put together. She's at least stayed in her lane....
@@michiganscythian2445 Yes "Santa"
my main problem is that if i hear them talk about being in a "man's world" one more time im gonna cringe into a black hole. Out of all the ruling kingdoms and houses that are left the only one ruled by a man is house Aryyn; House Greyjoy, Stark, Lannister (and the iron throne), Mormont, Karstark, Targaryen, (and previously Martells and Tyrells before they died from other women-led houses).
So if anything, it's a matriarchal society and men are only needed as meatbags who can hold pointy objects and if Dany's complains one more time about the patriarchy then she better go complain to the Night king and get turned into the first human popsicle.
Dont you dare call those sand snakes a "house2 the bitches ruined the Dorne storyline
Jim Johnson Huuuhhhh yes and no. Bran currently doesn’t seem to have anything approaching an interest on mundane affairs apart from a comment once in a while. And Jon? I agree here, although if some reason had been delivered before (like a connection between the many faces god and the white walkers) that justified her doing that then it would have been ok, example either Beric Dondarrion or Dany killing the Night King would have been met with way way way less hate from the fan base than Arya doing it
@Jim Johnson Ok first lets get some of your facts straight, valyrian steel not dragonglass and Jon has never been confirmed (hopefully no one will ever be) to be the prince/princess that was promised or the reincarnation of Azor Ahai, and his/her role was never specifically said to be "kill the Night King", it merely and vaguely was to stop the long night. Apart from that YES goddammit it was incredibly stupid, and so stupidly and easily fixed. I have to laugh now to every time I commented "no don't celebrate! They will ruin any star wars series they are left in charge off!" at any star wars channel.
That said I honestly don't think social justice is the cause of this problem as much of their love to show off whatever actor they prefer at the time, this opinion I got from the videos of the Dragon Demands in case you are interested.
Jim Johnson I mark the difference between Valyrian steel and dragonglass because blades made of Valyrian steel are pretty much magical weapons created on Valyrian by unknown methods (presumably magic and dragon fire) and dragonglass is just of natural origin.
Beric was also resurrected (along with lady stone heart but she is besides the point), Mel also confirmed Stannis as being the prince that was promised and currently all the red priests and their moms at the other side of the Narrow sea confirm Dany is the princess (remember gender neutral noun) that was promised. And I don’t know why would being the son of a stupid prince and his stupid bride (that for some reason just couldn’t take the logical path to getting marriage) if anything it makes him candidate for “having” the vague song of ice and fire omitted on the show.
@Jim Johnson Jon was never confirmed to be The Prince that was Promised. Mel saying so doesn't make it true. Remember she thought that Stannis was originally The Prince that was Promised and look how that turned out. Jon getting resurrected doesn't automatically prove that he's The Prince that was Promised either. It only proves that the Lord of Light still had a use for Jon, much like Beric. In terms of your prophecy comment, how can you be sure that the prophecy wasn't fulfilled, but in a more subtle way. GRRM doesn't like obvious solutions to prophecies, and I'm sure he would have transferred that philosophy on to the showrunners. Having Jon or Danaerys be the Prince that was Promised could be seen coming from a mile away, and not GRRM's way.
Now by no way do I think S8E03 was the pinnacle of story telling, quite the opposite actually. I think a threat that's been hyped up since the very first scene of the show shouldn't be dealt with so easily and in such a BS way. But my problem doesn't lie with Arya being the one to do it.
"You're not very good writers, are you?"
You just described the writing team for this perfectly.
I read this comment as it was spoken in the video. Good job.
this guy must have burnt his tv after the next episode
looool
Noticed how everything male character no matter how Noble, brave or wise just gets on a downward spiral immediately they start hanging out with Daenery 👮
Jorah stood his own though
Dont know what you are talking about. Daario stayed pretty much the same, as did Greyworm (thought to be fair that guy never had much personality to begin with), as did Jorah, and as did Barristan. And Tyrion was on that spiral ever after killing Tywin.
@@Zorro33313 lmao im pretty sure dumbass men are writing the show and they are pretty bad at it sooo 🤷♀️
@@klararotenmayer7186 but producers are women
@@klararotenmayer7186 They're male feminists, they don't count.
That's why I am backing the Night King! Strong male character who doesn't have to say a word.
He needs something done, he goes and do it. Hell, by just throwing some canon fodder he got himself a dragon. Dude's a legend.
*_"You keep what you kill..."_*
lmfao
@@jakefrost7404 Love that reference 😂
Yeahhhhhh sooooo.....I hope you're not disappointed now that this new episode has come out...
To be fair Brien is one of the few female characters that deserved that recognition.
Honestly i thought all the important female characters were really well done until they started going over the top with the bs.
@petulant for being actually strong and brave (in the most literal sense of the words). Game of Thrones takes place in a medieval-like setting, where women don't learn to fight with swords and other weapons. Brienne is one of the few female fighters (within the seven kingdoms) and she's also quite good at it. Yet, despite of being on the same level as guys like Jaime, the hound or Tyrell, she was never knighted because women aren't allowed to be knights in that universe. Brienne is the only female character where they can really bring in the gender issue: it's precisely because she isn't like the typical woman of her universe that they can put her on par with male characters of her similar (physical/fighting) characteristics, without giving two shits about her gender. Not like what they did with Sansa/Dany and Jon, where they basically made made him a fucking slave dog.
@petulant I think she gave a lot for that honour and knighthood stuff, but of course her love for Jaime was bigger. Then again, what could she do if he prefered his sister? 🤷♂️
@@bigfrikiI agree, if we were talking about the book Brienne. Here, Brienne is the type of knight who would kill someone and rub it in to someone who cares about that person. How does that make her better than the knights people always say she is better than? I don't even think of much on her victories against Jaime and the Hound since the odds were so high in her favor, it'd be too embarrassing if she still managed to lose.
“Sansa and Dany sit down to see if they can pass the Bechtdal test together”
Lmao that got me good
Bechdel but yeah...
I'm rooting for the Night King by now.
They are actually transgender migrants that made it through the Wall built by Donald the Builder. Here comes some SJW points to you.
@@monsterboomer8051 what? No?
I've been rooting for him since the Red Wedding.
He smiles in episode 3. Alpha shit right there.
Arya stabs him in the chest in episode 3...oops...spoiler alert.
I love GoT, but even I have to admit it's starting to become a tad annoying.
We're not quite at Disney Star Wars level of cuckoldry, but it's been slowly gaining momentum since the TV writers started taking the story lead instead of GRRM.
TheNeognostic You are forgetting that he is an SJW lite. The Hugo Award mess etc.
@@TheSleepLes I was aware he identifies as a "male feminist". It's just he never injected the politics overtly in the earlier seasons. His female characters are flawed and have good story arc's, not some contrived "stunning and brave" nonsense.
@@TheNeognostic Yeah like I said George puts his story and characters first and his female characters are good.
@@TheSleepLes Yeah his stance on that was bs.
@TheAutistWhisperer Agreed. I really enjoyed GoT books up to #4. After that his writing became tedious and uninspired. IMO. But I hear his input into how the series is run is very limited....might be a good thing.
5:20 Dany is John's Aunt, so it's even worse than if they were cousins
Yes, THIS. A rare error from the drinker.
But she looks younger then him? like John snow looks like he’s in his 30’s or 40’s at least yet she is portrayed as young and in her 20’s at most.Its a bit of oversight
@@hubertdenise3100damn that's harsh to kit Harrington.
Also, I think he's meant to be a little less than a year older than her, due to the timeline of Robert's war. In the books they're 13/14 at the start, while the show aged them up to 16.
The actors are the same age (36), so 24 at the start of the show.
Lyanna Mormont didnt listen to Jorah now their house is gone, over, caput. Nice one Lyanna good job. Just Imagine if Tywin was her dad he'd be mortified. You had one job to do succession of the family. Emotions over logic
I am still trying to figure out how that undead Giant managed to detect a 20-pound rat in all the chaos, its like the house is burning but i notice a fly in one of the corners...
emotion over logic, the womanly way of the world nowadays
Tywin would have put her in a cage lol
Yea she failed at her only duty because of her pride and ego which resulted in the death of her house and entire bloodline. But she told off those old white guys so it was worth it.
You'll be seeing the same grade of writing, next season, on Disney.
100% accurate. Just look what's happening with Marvel. It's disgusting
Ok, hol up. Just having strong female characters should not be a detractor, just over doing it to the point of unrealism is bad.
@@WLxMusic Agreed
@@WLxMusic What are you talking about exactly? Captain marvel is so much weaker in the comics than thor. Marvel themselves said that thor is much stronger than captain marvel. Watch a channel named thor talk he explains it very well. They made captain marvel so much stronger because she is a woman No other reason.
You mean how they are preparing the new Iron Man to be his daughter and how the are making the new Captain America to be a black person, for example?
"Just look at marvel" there have been a total of 2 movies in the ten year history of the MCU that were not LEAD by a white male.......thats a problem to you? Seriously?
Game of thrones takes all the confident and strong men and turn them into docile broken shells. In the end all the good men will be dead and those in power will be eunuchs, dwarfs and women.
From your lips to Gods ears my friend.
How many times have you been rejected in your life? Lmao.
Two female characters literally begged male characters for something in the most recent episode lmao.
I realize these videos make all you insecure men feel like you're smart and that it's all okay, but you're all reaching at straws.
@@billybilson7654 nothig to do with dating. This is entertainment / programing / Social Engineering for the masses.
@@t-bone6636 okay, keep trying to find external reasons as to why your life isnt the way you want it. Pretty sure while we spend our time arguing over TV shows, the people that "control" us do as they want any way. But please do explain how this is doing it. When grrm is still producer in the show.. Funny that it's suddenly all this "politically correct" bs when all this political correct bs is the new thing to get views easily.
@@billybilson7654not sure what to answer, im not arguing over tv shows anyway. it was just a thought that came to my mind recently. and its true what is happening. also you know a "nothing" from a live just by reading a comment. fine?
Brienne was a "strong female character" done right in a time of too many Mary Sues.
Her knighting was beautiful, well deserved and one of my favorite parts of this season so far.
Yeah I think it was by accident though. The show makers thought we'd engage with her being knighted because she's a woman, but we loved it because she earned it.
@@firstLast-jw7bm how is Brienne beating the Hound any less believable than her beating Jaimie back when he had his right hand?
@@haydeng3316 Brienne beating the Hound is pure plot induced stupidity. This dude has been shown throughout the show to be second only to The Mountain in terms of strength & was stated to be one of the best warriors in the 7 Kingdoms & she overpowered him. Like literally just overpowered him. That's rubbish. She can win, that's fine, but it needs to be choreographed better & more believable.
Seems like you were knighted too.... As a White Knight!
Eh well chivalry is dead. It died holding the door for a mary sue. Expect this to be a recurring theme.
Great line.
HODOR!
@@BaldorfBreakdowns , that's Admiral Holdo, to you.
Funny thing is, chivalry had NOTHING to do with wimmin. It was a code of honor between knights and their duels. But yeah, women killed chivalry, then romance, then marriage.
Its now A Game Of Hormones, specifically Estrogen.
@Melly Reed You mean slip away like a woman's physical appearance?
Game of hormones - estrogen is coming
In the earlier seasons I'd call it Game of Whore-moans
House Estrogen
"Only after a girl gets brutally raped, she can become a strong woman."
The female character should be strong IN SPITE of the presence of strong and even stronger male characters, not because of the absence of any strong male or stronger male characters. That’s good writing
This is far more universal: protagonist is credible only in face of competent antagonist. "Show, don't tell" - B class movie like Predator did this marvelously. First they establish Dutch's team as total badasses and then shows them outclassed, cornered despite their active, best efforts.
Believable characters that audiences can relate to is better writing. I read the books--the characters were half and half in that regard. Many things happened out of the blue. Oh, and ALL of the Starks were incomprehensibly stupid.
Like Sarah Connor in Terminator 2
"I hope she turns out to be a villain"
Oh boy
Be very careful what you wish for...
Ironically, I was drunk watching this episode, and really didn't like it.
The tall chick getting knighted was sweet though (come on, she's earnt it}.
you drink and you know all
It's like her arc as Phasma, in the Last Jedi....
.....oh, wait.
The only problem I have with it is that technically she is already a knight. She was a member of the Kingsguard. That not only makes her a knight, but an elite knight.
@@danagray9709 They tend to forget a lot of things out of convenience for implementing "cool ideas" they thought up. it really did begin to detoriate when they had to come up with writing themselves but Im too invested in the show already not to watch the series till end
@@eliebechara3811 "that's what I do, I drink and I know things" that's the phrase I have my T-shirt, cheers
"...whatever this guy's supposed to be..."
Also castrated. 👍
Eunuch, actually, since he was castrated before puberty.
If I read the books right he lost ALL his dangly bits. :/
@@GlueTubber that was Varys. No wait, i always thought Varys to be an unsullied when i heard they lost root and stem as well. So yes, you are correct. At least that proves its not balls that make a man look at a naked woman (scene where he spies on bathing Misandei).
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Varys is a eunuch, hence Tyrion's no balls joke
I think one of the things that really bothered me about the last few seasons is that all of these women were already such richly drawn out, powerful (in their own right) female characters. The writers could have easily created authentic story arcs for each of them that would have portrayed them equally as strong, but far less contrived.
One of the best reviews I’ve seen. No one talks about how Hollywood is stuffing their social political agenda in every frame of media. Good on you for calling them out.
It went SJW in season 5 and turned into fanfiction ever since.
If Martin ever finishes it
Funnily enough its downturn occured when the book material ran out!
I knew the show was doomed the moment they could no longer rely on the original writer. Martin was the one who made Game of thrones so great to begin with.
if you say Star wars went to SJW, I agree. If you say MCU is going in the path of SJW, I'll agree that as well. But if you say GoT becomes SJW, I strongly disagree. If it's being forced we can feel it. Don't let that happen by accusing it. "If you say it, They will make it ".
@@hareendrangangadharan6974 It's not as blatant as Star Wars or the MCU, but it's clearly there. Just a small example to start is Daenerys trying to appeal to Sansa with that whole "We're both strong women in a man's world" speech...when they seem to forget about all the other female leaders like Olenna Tyrell, Cersei, Lyanna Mormont, Ellaria Sand, Asha/Yara, and so on. Also, in season 5, one of the sand snakes kills Areo Hotah in one attack...and he's like this legendary warrior that guards Prince Doran. I have a dozen more examples, but I doubt you actually care to hear them. The point is the show writers have a weird agenda where they want to portray certain characters as weak and foolish (Jon) and other characters as flawless and amazing (Arya). Don't even get me started on how they killed Stannis offscreen or turned Tyrion into a moron that's constantly made a fool of by Daenerys.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who had made this observation. I watched the 3rd episode and WOW. The STAMINA of these women, as they swing their swords, and fist fight off the attackers is OFF the CHARTS. I was sickened by the weakness of the men and the OVERPOWERED women.
The weakness of the men? Grey Worm, Jaime, Tormund, Gendry, Pod, Theon, Jorah, Jon, the Hound and fucking Samwell Tarly all fought for a ridiculous amount of time, non-stop. The show has gone to shit in general, and its nothing to do with feminism.
@@saulgoneman Also, how the fuck did Sam fucking fatass Tarly survive? Like, wasn't he like swarmed by a flock of dead fucks trying to eat him or summat?
@@saulgoneman Samwell was just a crybaby. About the others, well. Lets take 1 example, lets go for grey worm. He is strong at being a dumb brute. But weak as in he need to follow orders and can find no purpose in life other then to follow khaleesi. Which makes him a weak person. This weak mindendness can be applied to all men in GOT these days.
All TRUE power lies with woman, this was not the case when the series started. It is a SJW feminist freak show these days
Of Course, This is entertainment / programing / Social Engineering for the masses
oh boy brace yourselves for the final episode, it's being directed by D&D themselves!
I love your take on this. Especially, that in order to make the women stronger, they weaken the men. The writing seems different this season. Did they the author not finish his ending yet, so other writers came in to finish up?
Martin hasn’t gotten this far in the books yet so they’re going from a rough outline that he gave them instead of from finished books.
end of season 4 was the end of the books, and u can notice inthe writing... maybe it was season 3? i forget.... but u can see the writing goes to shit at the end of season 4.
@@cathygrandstaff1957 "hasn't gotten this far"......and he never will. If the book ever gets finished it will be by someone else. Just consider it done, it will never be the same as if it was finished all in one go. I think Martin really got in over his head with too many characters and lines that go nowhere. I really can't see it picking up again like the same story after 15-20 years. He's a bit old too, time is not on his side.
HBO followed loosely and then made up their own condensed version. I'm expecting a pretty anti-climatic ending.
Kind of like... the ominous meeting of Bran and theNOPE!
@@yourhandlehere1 I personally dont believe him that it was meant to go part Red Wedding. I think Feast and Dance are additional books for money. Even GRRM doesnt wanna write it anymore. Let alone D&D.
Don't worry. Realists didn't like the battle that followed. Historians didn't like the battle that followed. Hard core fans didn't like both.
So pray tell me: if we have such strong women leaders in winterfell why didn't they realise the battleplan was stupid and try to fix it? They could've just hired a random medieval warfare junkie who could've made the fight much better. Like if they'd have paid me $100+ less soldiers would've died and aside from the walkers the battle would have been won quite significantly. Come the walkers that'd be a whole new full plate harness to crack but it could've been done.
Yes it would Not have been as dramatic but I can't tell you how meny times in s8e3 I was like that's dead to be surprised in the next cut that nope they ain't.
Well at least Lyanna got a cold case of reality in episode 3 and only killed the giant because they wanted her to have the cliche Hollywood death
And people are saying that she is bravest warrior who ever lived in north
That is dumb
I would love to see the absolute meltdown people would’ve had, had that giant actually taken a bite off of her lol
Bc David and Goliath isn't a well know story.. Or is it because it was a little girl? Is that why it's such a bad move? Cliche' happens all the time (rarely on thrones) , get over yourself.
S J. ikr. it's mainly that she's a tiny ass kid. imagine that character was a 10 year old boy the whole time. it'd be just as retarded. how in the hell does some kid become so bad ass and have their own adult following they can command and is listened to by all the other adults. truly is a fantasy world. the fact that it's a girl just makes the kid all the more weak, fragile, afraid. yet no, theses little girls are bad asses.
Minor correction I believe that Daenerys is Jon’s Aunt not his cousin which is worse.
Soon as it hit the sandsnake story arc i kneww we were in for a rough ride
All logic and principle went out the window
Thank you for pointing out the ridiculous feminist theme in GoT. It gets worse with each episode. They act as if this theme has NEVER been done before, and that they are so groundbreaking. The fact is, every piece of entertainment spat out by Hollywood for the past many years has always had a strong female empowerment theme. It just seems like the more feminist drivel that comes out, the more the idiots say "It's about time we had female representation in movies!". It's just going to get worse I fear, as well. I feel like 2020 is going to be the worst year ever due to the political climate. Modern entrainment is dead.
Well, the author of GoT wrote this long ago, and at least he also shows that women can be evil.
@@herbertcamacho1461 "You know nothing" Herbert Camacho. The author hasn't finished the books yet and his writings have only influenced I think up to Season 4. Season 5 and on has been Hollywood's own writing, and as you see with those Seasons, the female empowerment becomes stronger and stronger.
A lot of GRRM’s well written female characters like Arianne Martell, Alys Karstark, Val and Anya Waynwood are cut or only appear for a line or two. And some others like Brienne and Ellaria Sand have a complete personality change. Show Brienne is a lot more brusque and cynical than her book counterpart. Show Ellaria is a revenge before reason harpy opposed to her pleas to stop the cycle of revenge in the books. Both coincide with source material ending and the writers having to pick up the reins
The show was originally an adaptation... but now it has to be an original story... but adaptors aren't writers and it shows.
It does.
"To see if they pass the Bechdel Test together" , that was gold brother. Keep up the good work.
I genuinely believe Brienne deserved that knighthood. She has been always loyal and faithful to her peers. She has weaknesses, she can be hurt, she gets beat up. I dont have a problem with her honestly
Yep, they better clear out some of the strong wamen next episode. I'm hoping the dragons turn on Dany to protect John.
Hoping that as well. If they gloss over the potential conflict between Her & Jon over his birthright, then we know how cucked the show is. It’s certainly lost alot of it’s balls since it ran out of books to draw from. It’s why, all of a sudden, the story beelined it to the war with winter. They just didn’t know what to do, aside from the major story beats that Martin had advised them on.
What they need to do is have Her get all “It’s my throne!” Jon be like, “I don’t care. Just stay out of my way, while I fight the Night King.” Her get all Mad Queen paranoid & set him up to die in battle, but the dragons save him against her will. Then he’s gonna have to stab her with his fucking sword when she flips out over it, because that’s what Azor Ahai has to do right?
If they make her Azor Ahai, then they can just fuck right off. It’s gotta be Rhaegar’s kid...it’s what the whole fucking story has been building up to for christ’s sake.
@@lionofthemorning7997 Interesting proposition there, friend. Jon driving Longclaw through Daenerys's heart would be an interesting parallel to the Azor Ahai myth. I'll be crossing my fingers you're correct, but I guess this depends solely on how cucked the writers are, how hard Martin set his foot down, and last, but not least, what exactly Martin has in mind for the ending. I'd like to hope he's still got his shit in gear, at least.
@@LumosX Yeah, I doubt they would bring up Jon's birthright only to have it put in the background. Something big will happen because of it.
NOPE! They killed men and one small child (Lyanna mormont)
Oh! That would be cool. I'm _this_ close to giving up on the show, but there's a fresh idea.
This shit has been here all along man. Don't you remember lines like "valar morghulis. Yes, all men must die... But we are not men - smirk-"
Holy shit thats was cringy
GRRM is a feminist
oooh, I can hear that smirk.
@@corsicanlulu Yeah, he definitely talked about being at least "as much as a feminist a man could reasonably be". Even so, he's a logical feminist, not a shove unrealistic superwomen down your throat kind of feminist. His stories involve women overcoming hardship realistically in a world stacked against them, which the medieval era really was. But it's never without consequence or without sacrifice. GRRM knows how to do it right, unlike those bumbling morons Dan and David.
By the old gods and the new, you're so right!
"...and I honestly hope she turns out to be a villain." Good prediction.
she was the villain all along
I mean it was pretty obvious the direction she was headed in. It was just rushed so it felt like it made no sense to some people.
I predicted it back in 2015 "feminism will ruin GOT" and here we are... Male characters known to be bold and succesful now failing at every corner... It's a joke
We are in "reversed era" unfortunately. Slaves became masters and their hatred built up over the centuries is shown. Males? White? You got into huuuuge trouble. Its not just characters. Right now you cant even talk or do anything the normal way as we live in "liberal dictatorship" and while it wont execute you it will use public (social) pressure to torture you into suicide or homeless and hopeless situation. Unfortunately, thats the picture of nowadays world.
I predicted it back in 94 with the next karate kid.
My brother and i have noticed this as well, plus some other little things like Arya saying "Sansa is the smartest person i know" while Sansa saying "Arya is the strongest person i know" it's like it's all just women blowing smoke up each other's asses! I'm honestly waiting for them to insinuate that the Night King is somehow like Trump.
The night king killing everyone is the only possible good ending to this now shitty series.
Trump is a liar , he didn't do what he said but I knew he wouldn't he's just a Jewish puppet .
Oh and kid take a look who directs the show ! And our central bank and every single media outlet ! Jews !
@@jospehbloggington7571 ME NO FUCK BAD WRITING
I feel like the men have all become sheeplings. They are cuddly and fuzzy, and they all like eachother, and they hug a lot, and they cry a lot. They all have become friends. What, you murdered my entire house? Well, let's hug that out.
While the women behave like the men would have behaved in seasons 1-5.
If any woman watches the show and thinks it's empowering then I feel sad for you.
I feel sad that you missed out on great female characters like Book Brienne, a character who struggles in a medieval world ruled by men but still stands by her believes of chivalry and honor. Or on Book Sansa who after having her whole perception of the world as a fairy tale brutally shattered and stomped upon for years finally decides she's had enough and steps into the game. Or on book Ellaria who sees beyond the folly of war and wishes to end the cycle of revenge that might get her whole family killed.
Instead you get caricatures of what female empowerement is. Female characters that go "boys are dumb" only to immediately follow with "Kit harington is short tee hee". You got a cyborg ninja prop that lacks any personality whatsoever. You got a female character who looks smart and people inform you that she is "the smartest person you've ever known" that instead got easily played for an entire season by the most sleaziest character in the whole show until her omniscient brother bailed her out from killing her own sister. You got a female character who avenges her family by killing the rest of her family and going "wEAk mEn SHalL nOt rULe DorNe aGAiN nyaaaah".
You get a bunch of female characters acting like what male producers believe is female empowerement, and end up creating a mockery and meme out of it.
This word "empowering" actually makes me wanna vomit.
Can we get a review on episode 3? Because that was really really really bad in my opinion. Curious to your thoughts.
Its just crap.more feminist propoganda and everything feels like fan service now
I agree they need a woman to do a man job,who else but a woman will kill the night king the greatest evil guy in the universe and they close the chapter on him like he was just another bad guy not THE bad guy.BTW you know you have Slovenian blood? at least by your last name i can tell you that.
Andrew Novak ikr pure garbage .. pc and feminist bull
Yes mate it was an absolute shit show!
The character arc for most of the female characters in GoT have been pretty decent, and while there has been a strong under current of feminism in recent media I don't think it has really done too much damage to the show thank goodness. But Daenerys...
let's face it, she's only 'powerful' because of the dragons. She behaves live a petulant brat most of the time, and I've never really understood her apparent appeal, or what inspires people (much stronger and better people at that) to follow her. I don't really rate Emilia Clark much in this role personally, and if it wasn't for the strong supporting cast that props her up, I'd be a lot less interested in the show. I really don't want to see her on the throne in the end!
The full character arc for whamen should be dodging cum shots in the kitchen.
I agree that some of the issues come down to the actors. Emilia Clarke is woefully overrated as an actress, while Sophie Turner's only saving grace is that she's pretty to look at. Unfortunately she possesses all the screen presence and charisma of a wet rag. God knows what would happen if she and Brie Larson starred in the movie together - the universe would probably cringe itself out of existence.
To be honest though, there is a strong possibility after this last episode that she may become the villain by the end.
The way she dimmised tyrion even though he fought in battles and humiliated him in front of everyone was disgraceful. He is by far the best character in the whole GoT series.
ppl like you remind me of a scene from a South Park episode:
czcams.com/video/IjodUKCc_7g/video.html
The more "woke" a show becomes... the worse it becomes.
i agree to an extent. the more you look for it makes for the worst experience, too.
3:10 "yOU gO gUuuUrrRLLll" ;D
You forgot the nice scene where the translator girl wants to socialize with some local girls and they turn away, and the eunuch soldier comes up to her and says: "There is no place here for us!"
We need some hinting at racism too, not just sexism!
Anhow, the main problem with the show simply was that it was excruciatingly boring ...
I didn’t take the scene that way. I think the girls shunned them because they weren’t from the North, the same way Tyrion, Jaime and the rest are regarded. Grey Worm and Missandei didn’t seem to want to linger in Westeros either.
You may be right, the problem is that once things from a specific perspective repeat (identity pol), those interpretations come way more easily, i.e. heap of sand...
It may very well have absolutely nothing to do with racism, although I would add, the way those girls reacted, would have been different to the "Northener/Southener" differences, i.e. they reacted uncomfortable, irritated and almost fearful and just wanted to get away, instead of confrontational, mistrustful or oppositional.
But still, yeah, it might be completely harmless. My bet in the context though, would be otherwise.
Additionally, Grey Worm and Missandei can still wish to live somewhere else, yearn for their home country, don't like the climate, may not like the crude culture of the North, or whatever, without a "There is no place here for us" in reaction to people reacting negatively to Missandei.
To be fair. That was probably the most realistic reaction portrayed in the episode.
That didn't have anything to do with their skin color, but they were clearly not of the North. That's a running trend in the show that the Northerners keep to themselves.
Noted that as well. Little girls especially would be fascinated by her hair, because that's how little girls are. Besides, they were the ONLY females portrayed in a bad light, and the difference was race, not gender, that was being pointed out.
After last night's episode yep!!! Couldn't have Jon kill the night king big no no he's straight and white and a male 🤦🏼♂️😅😅
baz bazzer Speak like a true incel.
John couldn't get there in time, has nothing to do with showing him as weak. I promise you that dragon could have fucked up Arya just as easily.
EXACTLY
yeah, Arya doing it instead of him it's just more Frozen strategy
Everyone was expecting John to kill the Night King, of course that couldn't happen. Arya makes sense, she's a trained assassin. I've noticed a lot of the anti-SJW types do everything they accuse feminists of doing, they view everything through the lens of, 'In what light does this portray men?' It's sad.
The fact that I ignored almost every one of these points because I wanted to love this season is sad.
Go Woke, Go Broke. Great video with great insight. The writers felt the need to inject their social justice into a show that took place eons ago and their efforts destroyed a once epic show that I used to enjoy.
Yes of course a woman kills the night king. A child no less
another dead King. another win for the women.
You guys realize that ONLY women are ruling by this point?
> Dany wants to have the iron throne
> Cersei HAS the iron throne
> Dorne king was killed by 4 women
> Sansa is (Queen?) of the north
> Arya is deus ex machina
To be fair to Arya, she had 8 seasons building up her skills. Calling her a Deus Ex Machina is a disservice to her character and what her character went through - getting to Essos, training with the faceless men, becoming blind, getting stabbed, overcoming her faceless opponent, etc.
@@CODA96 So?
So by that logic any member of the faceless men would have been able to kill the night king?
I haven't watched any of this new season yet, but I understand with and agree with this assessment. I've especially soured on Dany. She acts like a major badass, when she herself is very weak and pointless. She'd have died a dozen times over if it weren't for one of the strong warriors or one of her dragons saving her.
And by the end of the last season, most of the main female characters were just annoying in how they were so full of themselves and proud. The only one I could stomach was Brienne, because she'd at least earned the right to be proud of herself and actually _is_ powerful.
But otherwise, it's really just regressed into Game of Estrogen. And frankly, I saw it coming way back in that awful Dorne plotline.
i agree, but that hound fight was bs... if a dude like that gets on top of u, and starts pounding ur face in, its over....
@@JoseRamirez-dv5uo - Oh yeah, I agree with that as well. But she at least has some basis to act badass.
@Kapitan Dupa - Yeah, I mean on the show, too. In the books, things are wildly different.
Good reference with young Ned's line, though. It really does fit pretty well.
Jose Ramirez The Hound was half dead already from infection. Brienne beating him does make sense.
Kapitan Dupa Yeah well those other cases are less realistic than Brienne defeating an injured Hound then.
Sansa was not only manipulated by Joffrey but as soon as she thought she would marry loras she went back to season 1 episode 1 sansa. Have always hated her character and don't buy her Ark.
Same. You need way more time to develop someone so obnoxious to be believable but made her Little Finger jr in less than a season. Jaime was a douche but they took several seasons and a severed hand to make him likable.
Brienne being knighted was a deserved move if you read the books. She is the only one to encapsulate the traits of classic knighthood. And it was okay that way. The other things you said I see your point of view. Yeah.
too bad this is GoT Brienne who would kill someone and rub it to that guy's best friend
I really wanted Undead Hodor to rule over all.
I honestly wanted that to be the end
The one thing the show has been pretty consistent with is the idea that being over-confident in your abilities or abusing a position of power leads to either losing everything you value and/or death, If that theme continues, it doesn't bode well for many of the female characters at this point. We shall see.
I'm waiting for a heel turn from Daenerys, though I'll be absolutely stunned if the writers have the balls to actually go through with it.
@@TheCriticalDrinker Imagine them having her killed off and John surviving to then take the Iron Throne from Cersei. Oh that would be priceless.
@@pierrebroccoli.9396 I would rather see her go too far and her having to be put down because she turn out to be just like her father.
@@FeralLogic I think this would be very interesting considering he allies. Tyrion, Vayres and The Unsullied are all with her because she is supposed to be better. If she shows that she is just as bad as the ones who came before, they could have some interesting internal conflict.
@@mtheoryftw there's been a few times she was going to cause a lot of unnecessary deaths to innocents. Tyrion and Jon both told her if she did, she's the same as the rest of them. Tyrion has been uneasy with her for a while.
I was really hoping that Sam would be so against her for killing his father and brother that she sentences him to die and Jorah kills her to repay Sam for saving his life. Since that can't happen, I want Jon to kill Dany to protect Sam!
You think this is bad, wait until the prequels come out..
But Benioff and Weiss won't be writing and showrunning those, so they actually could be better.
House of the Dragon is far better than the last few seasons of GoT...
yes the Writer is a confessed feminist who stated his intention to do just this. What did you expect
I Iiked denarys story but seriously she never works for anything instead she gains everything just cuz of her bloodline
Jorah was a much better character
From birth her brother had drilled the idea into her head that the throne belonged to them and that their only mission in life was to get it back. She doesn't think she needs to earn it. In her mind, her rightful throne had been stolen from her, and in a way it actually was.
yeah its the child character. shes sounding more like viserys each week.
people are pissed about the NK but at least with arya she was connected to her father, brother and mother dying. got traded as a slave, kidnapped then blinded and almost died twice. at least her arc has adversity that makes sense in creating her character now.
@@jackh9708 aria's story was my favorite until she went to bravos
God that part was sooo boring and bullshit
And after it she turned into this annoying little cunt jeez and i haven't even seen anything from s8 yet
Has anyone noticed that Sansa for 7 seasons hasn't done anything? Like she talks dramatically, but thats it
She won the Battle of the Bastards for Jon by manipulating Peter Balish. She played stupid for Joffrey after realizing what kind of person he was so she could survive, and possibly assassinate him herself at some point until Margery came into the picture. She motivated Theon into reverting back to his old self while being under Ramsay's thumb.
In this latest season though, yeah I'd have to agree with you there. She's pretty much done nothing but bitch and moan.
She's done a couple useful things, but it seems like the majority of the time she's there to get used by someone or to whine about something for the sake of petty conflict. I honestly can't stand her character. Best thing she's done is admit that she's useless.
Man, I just found your channel. Pure gold. The one good thing about season 8 is all the cool CZcams content it brought to us
"Then Daenerys sits down for a chat with Sansa to see if they can pass the Bechdel test together."
Every time I think I've heard my favorite sentence of yours, a new video comes along and proves me wrong lmao.
EDIT: "bland, vacant piece of milk toast" should not be so fitting, but it is, so thank you for broadening my insult inventory.
Brilliant. This may be your finest effort to date. If I could grant you 100 thumbs up, they would be yours.
Just make 99 more accounts, problem solved
Hey! You got 100 thumbs up yourself
@@samporter9785 Gotta give to get. LOL.
@@f18a i gave you one but i didnt receive one :'(
I'D THUMB HIM UP 10 TIMES OVER!
I love this show. And now I hate it. Thanks!
How can men be easily manipulated when the entire premise of GOt was about how men were so manipulative .. look at littlefinger ffs..
Well now it is clear. The writers not only dislike the men but the dislike the women as well. smh. They don't like any of the characters. Men. Women. Eunichs.
wait till Episode 3. your fears are confirmed.
Honestly GoT started falling flat for me around season 6 when they started running out of source material and started writing for the show revolving around political agendas. The show used to be good because of how much of a subversion to the typical fantasy drama. Now with last season its basically pulling every cliche and predictable fan service in a rushed sloppy mess to finish the show sacrificing an interesting story and good character developments/resolutions.
That late? I noticed a very evident drop in quality after season 4 ended
Thanks for doing this, because I can't! I can't watch Game of Thrones ever again.
Jaime wanting to fight alongside Brienne would have been one of the few things that would have made sense because he respects her but the writers couldn't even get that relationship right.
However, one (of the many) scenes they completely ruined for his character was the first scene in Winterfell with Dany. I was really looking forward to them actually discussing her father's death, because Jaime always made it very clear that he never regretted what he did and knew it was the right thing to do, and Dany is facing her father's murderer, while already knowing her father was a tyrannt. It could've been such an amazing, intelligent scene and they completely butchered it. They made him look pathetic and her like a petulant child, I actually cringed watching it. Failing this one important meeting was such a shitty thing to do to both characters.
Joke's on them.
I never watched the show in the first place.
I didn't make it through the first episode. Jason Momoa...shrug.
The show was great, until the fifth book ended, and they started to made shit out.
Fair enough. :)
Same😂
Apolo Creed it has lost its way after running out of source material and is now just fanboy fan fiction
Thanks for the video. Now I can ignore this feminist drivel.
Maybe the directors were auditioning to direct the next Star Wars installment of SJW-in-space. Aaaaand they got the gig. 👏
And now they have lost the gig, if what I am hearing is true
Star wars has enough problems without D&D easily making it worse when GOT fans boycott on principal.
Never seen a show rise so high to fall so low. This was no mediocre show. It had one of the worse endings I've ever seen. Another victim of the "subverting expectations" bullshit that is passing for genius writing nowadays. So much potential. What a waste.
Yeah I really like the show from season 1 to 4.....and that's it.
I second that
@@pitsahat2 Season 5 was still pretty good but quite flawed, but it all got worse from there.
That is where Martin was still working on episodes
The new "men in black" movie is rife wokeness of sjwing
Just about any role Tessa Thompson takes, really.
This show used to be badass. I still watch it, but damn, it has lost a step for sure.
"A step"
It fell down the stairs and never recovered.
ha ha I totally AGREE with you! I love the show so much though...
However, recently I watched season 7 on my mom's DVR to catch up on the previous season and the Directors had a special where they talked about how they didn't mean to put all the women in one room trying to workout the stragedies... but they were really proud of themselves that they did...
I was like Oh Boy... it's going all Feminist on me... I hate SJW shit too! it was a good scene until they reminded me what you were doing to my fav show!
I'll still watch the End of GOT... but I agree with you about the Mother of Dragons... she was my fav character until she became power hungry and became what she said she didn't want to be.... John Snow is my favorite however Arya is amazing right now!
In a way its fitting, they unknowingly revealed the truth of what they and there fellow ideologue leftists/marxists sjw's are....and what they are is literally every single thing they claim to stand against,racism/"intolerance"/anti science etc. so It made sense why Danerys turned into that,shes a metaphor for feminists/Leftists/neo marxists liberals.
@@dannyhicks8653 So true! Agree!
I haven't seen it yet but did Admiral Holdo show up this season??
yes and Commander Rey.
ABSOLUTELY DEAD ON!!! I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW!!
The show is secretly written by Lilly Wachowski
Daenaries gets darker and darker throughout the first novels
Damnit, I really like GoT too. I just didnt want to admit it this was happening.
Got real bad in s7 but still had stuff to reveal and plotting, even if not as good. There was always the idea that next season can flip what you thought they were building, one season of this isn't a big deal, leaving room for denial. But they havent flipped it and s8 is so empty. All there is to see before you is the fan service they've been doing.
Thing is though, if the Night King crosses Lyanna Mormont, she'll glare at him and he'll leave Westeros, for good.
Imagine turning every scene upside down to fit your narrative lmao
Are you referring to the writers, or the drinker?
I can just hear the "HE NEEDS SOME MILK!" lady in the background of this video...
Thank god I know absolutely nothing about this show.
It's really not that bad. He bent the truth in a few places and is making obviously biased statements, it was still an entertaining video though
@@Arcanecide
Meh, perhaps.
However, in reference to _other_ movies, TV shows, books, radio programs, video games, cars, business practices, toys, politics, vacations, greenhouse gases, education, sexual orientation, religious preferences, international trade practices, common sense, _pick your poison,_ I'm getting sick and tired of the phrase "It's like _Game of Thrones,_ except ______ " being used as a basis to describe _everything_ under the fucking Sun. Those God-damned shallow-minded Millennials and their reality TV-level intelligence are gonna destroy the world.
And that's not even to bring up how "finish [them/it] rightly" is now a meme and apparently has some connection to modern day chivalry?
@@Arcanecide czcams.com/video/IjodUKCc_7g/video.html
yea got is ok got is ok got is ok got is ok got is ok got is ok...
If you like gritty story lines with real, flawed characters, you'd be hard pressed to do better than GOT. Don't let this turn you off. George R.R. Martin is a lazy bastard, but what he wrote was great and the show has done a great job of keeping in line with his original vision.
@@danagray9709
Honestly, that's not very appealing to me right now. What I'd really like to see is something more uplifting, encouraging and hopeful; something to help escape from the gritty stories and flawed characters of reality for a bit.
Tyrion is even been made out to look like an idiot with terribly planned military offensive tactics... etc..
Went from smart to stupid.. thanks ladies..
To be fair, Denarys is shown to be an arrogant hothead who is often irrational, I think it's more a case of bad writing than a misandric agenda.
@@WLxMusic That would be the case, but Dany is constantly rewarded for this behavior where as characters like Tyrion get shit on.
Part of the hilarity is that Sansa's entire rise to power is that she doesn't die. She doesn't do anything of note. And would they ever bring up that Tyrion is legally her husband, even though they never consummated?
“And then she does everything short of wink at the camera” lolll