The rude awakening that made McLaren realise its F1 shortcomings

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    McLaren’s re-emergence as a Formula 1 race-winning force with Daniel Ricciardo’s victory in the Italian Grand Prix is the culmination of three years of improvement, but it was only possible because of the team’s painful rude awakening in the first half of 2018. In this video Edd Straw revisits how McLaren finally realised its problems were not all Honda's fault, and the big changes that were made to put the team back on the up.
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  • @WeAreTheRace
    @WeAreTheRace  Před 2 lety +46

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  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před 2 lety +2305

    Brown and Seidel are legends.

    • @Wingbar
      @Wingbar Před 2 lety +105

      My favourite team boss and -principal on the grid

    • @ml8022
      @ml8022 Před 2 lety +43

      Absolutely, they brought McLaren back to the top!! Hopefully more victories will follow!

    • @ml8022
      @ml8022 Před 2 lety +38

      @@Wingbar Agree, i like that American!! A real racer combined with good business skills

    • @Wingbar
      @Wingbar Před 2 lety +43

      @@ml8022 exactly! I have to say I wasn’t convinced by him during that 2018 season. But since then I’ve come to absolutely love him and the environment he has created. Everyone sees McLaren as this family, feel-good team. He created that. And now they have won a GP again, which was a long time coming. Absolutely love the relationship he has/had with Lando, Carlos and Daniel!

    • @ml8022
      @ml8022 Před 2 lety +13

      @@Wingbar I had the same feeling as you had back in 2018. But it just needed time, and everything he did back then starting to pay off now. I expect even more for next season. I think they'll be able to fight with Mercedes and Red Bull for the title.

  • @purpledahlia1969
    @purpledahlia1969 Před 2 lety +786

    Lando and Carlos played a huge part in McLaren's rise as well. The fact that these two put their egos aside and declared from the outset they would work together and share all their knowledge was really important and paved the way for Daniel to take up the baton.

    • @phodge9985
      @phodge9985 Před 2 lety +17

      100%

    • @PKWeaver74
      @PKWeaver74 Před 2 lety +25

      Typed it all out so I didn't have to. 👍

    • @purpledahlia1969
      @purpledahlia1969 Před 2 lety +10

      Yes, I fear that a bit too. They don't (as yet anyway) have the relationship that Lando and Carlos had, which was on another level.

    • @pauledwards9416
      @pauledwards9416 Před 2 lety +8

      Dan is the number 1 driver now

    • @PKWeaver74
      @PKWeaver74 Před 2 lety +26

      @@pauledwards9416 I'm not sure you're right about that mate. Like many, I'm hoping his form continues, but one swallow does not a summer make.

  • @QueenVoodo0
    @QueenVoodo0 Před 2 lety +777

    I'm glad 2018 happened
    It gave the team a slap in the face and a pep in their step, and now I get to watch my favorite team winning again

    • @LSchelvin71
      @LSchelvin71 Před 2 lety +3

      McLaren could be like Red Bull with their Honda if the internal problem (+Alonso) doesn't ruin the plan project

    • @classicsportclassictiyl8547
      @classicsportclassictiyl8547 Před 2 lety +39

      @VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI Alonso wasn't the problem Tim Goss was the problem he designed the McLaren's from 2013-18 he couldn't find and solve correlation issues with the 2013 and 14 cars, he forced Honda to design the engine to fit the car unlike Red Bull who said to Honda you design the engine we will make it fit in our car. Finally in 2018 he put the front axle in the wrong place and in 2018 he finally got fired and its no coincidence that in 2019 was a big improvement.

    • @LSchelvin71
      @LSchelvin71 Před 2 lety +2

      @@classicsportclassictiyl8547 BIGGEST PROBLEM in 2017 are "Honda to follow Mercedes' philosophy with their 2017 engine" 😅😅

    • @nmdvalkyrie2862
      @nmdvalkyrie2862 Před 2 lety +22

      @@classicsportclassictiyl8547 I think Ron Dennis was also played a big part to the downfall in the mclaren honda. He was simply too ambitious and not patient enough. The way he handled the problem was really poor and he kept having problem with the investor and sponsorship. The reason why Alonso keep badmouthing the car was he promised and guaranteed by Ron Dennis a championship contender car, and what he got was very far from even a middle row car. Just see how calm and polite alonso to alpine this season compared to when him in mclaren honda. He didn't get a promise that he would get a championsip contender car, instead alpine ask him to work together to make a better car and work to challenge the championship in 2022 or 2023. You can argue that the reason alonso is calmer nowadays is because he is simply more mature now, but even if he did keep badmouthing mclaren honda because he didn't get what they promised to him, he still has a point.

    • @pratyushjena282
      @pratyushjena282 Před 2 lety

      i cant wait to see williams win

  • @naufaltirto7590
    @naufaltirto7590 Před 2 lety +268

    imagine having such a passionate CEO that cheering on your radio in every race, even more when you got a good performance on track

  • @sp33dbump33
    @sp33dbump33 Před 2 lety +424

    1 more thing Mclaren need too realise fast is they need to make the gulf livery permanent.

    • @artnull13
      @artnull13 Před 2 lety +7

      I notice no-one else has used their single alternate livery option

    • @chrisorr3919
      @chrisorr3919 Před 2 lety +24

      Thats probably up to gulf. If they want it all year, they need to pay up $$$$

    • @connorclinton7650
      @connorclinton7650 Před 2 lety +8

      @@artnull13 ferrari williams aston martin and alfa romeo did, but they only made small changes to their cars

    • @artnull13
      @artnull13 Před 2 lety +2

      @@connorclinton7650 thanks, probably explains why I failed to notice.

    • @mscbijles1256
      @mscbijles1256 Před 2 lety +6

      I know many people feel different about it, but I found it ugly. Those colours weren’t bright enough for me. It looked like shades of grey and dullness to me and that’s not what this team seems to represent.

  • @arba71
    @arba71 Před 2 lety +1075

    Can't wait for Williams to catch up. The new managements seems like a competent bunch.

    • @eduardodiaz-reixa5592
      @eduardodiaz-reixa5592 Před 2 lety +125

      Same. Williams and McLaren are F1. We need them at the top

    • @candle_eatist
      @candle_eatist Před 2 lety +79

      @@eduardodiaz-reixa5592 if everyone's at the top, maybe we'll have real competitive racing again

    • @joshuagabrielcatindig7607
      @joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Před 2 lety +22

      Jost and co. better make old man Williams proud.

    • @naufaltirto7590
      @naufaltirto7590 Před 2 lety +1

      the most important beside "right people" is budget

    • @hwero265
      @hwero265 Před 2 lety +18

      Progress is visible this season in Williams team 👍, last few seasons team under Claire Williams, Paddy Lowe looked hopeless, even could not make it on time for testing in Barcelona.

  • @hexgraphica
    @hexgraphica Před 2 lety +344

    Zak best team principal in a while also as a personality.

    • @alimanski7941
      @alimanski7941 Před 2 lety +75

      He's the CEO, Seidl is the Team Principal.

    • @justinbest9429
      @justinbest9429 Před 2 lety +1

      Can't pronounce Renault though can he!

    • @President-JonSnow.Malkowich
      @President-JonSnow.Malkowich Před 2 lety +29

      @@justinbest9429 Zak is American. So while yes he pronounces Renault wrong, he pronounces it as correctly as most other Americans, which is still wrong but cut him some slack, he doesn’t need to pronounce correct if he beats them.

    • @jamestaylor5417
      @jamestaylor5417 Před 2 lety +9

      @@justinbest9429 ah yes.. the mark of a truly great CEO.. his pronunciation of “Renault”

  • @user_unknwn
    @user_unknwn Před 2 lety +162

    McLaren has a different Aura than any other team! I mean it's like a feel good team! So much enthusiasm and energy! Totally love to see the three way battle for the championship!
    I hope Ferrari also gets into this race for the championship as well, that'll make the sport so interesting and bring in more fans.❤️

  • @TheSacuLlp
    @TheSacuLlp Před 2 lety +52

    Just looking at the cars from 2018 and 2021 its sooooo hugely different in terms of sponsors. The 2018 was naked and you had to be worried they might go broke, this year there is nearly any space left without sponsors

    • @joshuagabrielcatindig7607
      @joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Před 2 lety +1

      Naked car usually means a backmarker.

    • @instenalable
      @instenalable Před 2 lety +12

      That's because Dennis was charging sponsors money of a championship team, while being a team that was 8th-9th on the championship.

  • @adityakhaprelap
    @adityakhaprelap Před 2 lety +286

    So in a way, alonso actually helped them

    • @ryoichiwatanabe648
      @ryoichiwatanabe648 Před 2 lety +16

      Yea sort of, he's pretty underrated

    • @ostentatiousostrich
      @ostentatiousostrich Před 2 lety +75

      In a way? He helped a LOT building this very team

    • @gelmir7322
      @gelmir7322 Před 2 lety +55

      it was honda who helped them realize their errors by going into another team.
      by then mclaren cannot blame honda anymore (which was performing great together with toro rosso), for their poor performance.
      mclaren realized that much of the blame was their chassi and their stubborness to stick with a failed design philosophy.

    • @anggabudi5619
      @anggabudi5619 Před 2 lety +24

      @@gelmir7322 true, you need suitable man to rebuild team, finding seidl , zak brown, lando, sainz and ricciardo is miracle for them. Alonso must be tired psychologically when driving mclaren honda, change to renault and still not better. Team atmosphere looks good in mclaren, alpha tauri and alpine now i think, lot of smile and hope in their face. Redbull too serious in championship now, merc: look at bottas face. U will understand. Good to see mclaren revival with lando and daniel

    • @ze-ph9774
      @ze-ph9774 Před 2 lety +36

      @@anggabudi5619 I agree. The media and people tend to blame Alonso for "bad atmosphere" and "bad performance" but in actuality the whole team was in disarray and Alonso is of course always in the cameras point of view. Not the pit crews, engineers nor whomever. Sometimes enough is just enough and you can't always lie about the performance and trajectory of the team.

  • @Boom12
    @Boom12 Před 2 lety +155

    It truly was amazing to see how the team has changed and made those changes in the last decade, let alone the 2018 season. Just wow.

  • @bullettime8760
    @bullettime8760 Před 2 lety +26

    Zak and Seidel did not only brought the team back into the top they also change the atmosphere of the team into being more wholesome and friendly both for the driver and pit team
    (just compared it to say during the Ron Dennis days and you know what I'm talking about)

  • @larssonk22
    @larssonk22 Před 2 lety +53

    When Brown started he did say McLaren were about 3years away from being competitive in F1 again, looks like he was correct. The remainder of this season and 2022 will be exciting

    • @mr.fister4738
      @mr.fister4738 Před 2 lety +1

      this aged badly lmao

    • @larssonk22
      @larssonk22 Před 2 lety

      @@mr.fister4738 ah well he was talking about the previous generation of F1 cars, everyone has had their issues with the new cars unfortunately McLaren seems to have suffered the most

    • @mr.fister4738
      @mr.fister4738 Před 2 lety +1

      @@larssonk22 Yup
      Btw my prediction for 2022 aged badly
      I thought McLaren and Ferrari would fight for the title.
      I dont get how McLaren messed up so much

    • @larssonk22
      @larssonk22 Před 2 lety

      @@mr.fister4738 I would have loved to see more Norris vs Sainz action

  • @heavyharris5580
    @heavyharris5580 Před 2 lety +36

    When Brown first started I was extremely skeptical, seemed to me like he was making huge promises he couldn't keep. Glad I was wrong

  • @dwaynehicks6838
    @dwaynehicks6838 Před 2 lety +165

    Letting lando drive the car was also instrumental as well , great to see this legendary team getting back to the front.

    • @fenhen
      @fenhen Před 2 lety +16

      Lando has been great, but it’s not like they were lacking good drivers during their slump years.
      Alonso/Button was probably the best lineup on the grid.

    • @zacksmith9864
      @zacksmith9864 Před 2 lety +24

      @@fenhen I think he means because he was so young they allowed him to learn and get up to pace in 2019 when expectations were relatively low which he did and has improved greatly as seen by 2020 and now 2021 where he's already had 4 podiums this year which im pretty sure is the highest out of anyone other than Mercedes and redbull so allowing him to do all that before he's 22 is the real genius

    • @tommyvercetti1989
      @tommyvercetti1989 Před 2 lety +4

      @@zacksmith9864 ill be disappointed and shocked if lando doesnt get a win this year

    • @zacksmith9864
      @zacksmith9864 Před 2 lety +7

      @@tommyvercetti1989 we can all hope but I wouldn't say its a failure if he doesn't though as Mercedes and redbull still have better cars but on some tracks as they've proved mclaren can give them a run for their money so we'll see but what I would say is if not this year next year with everything changing bringing the teams levels closer together I fully expect him to get a win

    • @timjohnun4297
      @timjohnun4297 Před 2 lety

      @@tommyvercetti1989 Me too, I want to see Ric and lando feeding off each other. If that happens, and McLaren can continue to improve their cars, they could be well and truly in the hunt very soon

  • @Nagassh
    @Nagassh Před 2 lety +17

    The fact that McLaren seem to be a relatively happy home is promising enough. Maybe I'm misjudging, but I'm skeptical of if Ricciardo would have had the patience and support to get back on form if he was in a pressure cooker like Ferrari. The McLaren team seem to be positive, they have two solid drivers with great attitudes, that'll provide a fair chunk of fuel for getting back on track, even if they're not there yet.

  • @DrGoodnSexy75
    @DrGoodnSexy75 Před 2 lety +19

    Brown and Sidle are genius it’s so good to see mclaren up there again so exciting to see this team race also a great pair of drivers

  • @zeroelus
    @zeroelus Před 2 lety +5

    You mention the transformation and I think that shows up everywhere even in not as notable places, for example: Merchandise.
    This year alone, they knew full well what they where doing when reviving that iconic livery with Gulf and had the merchandise ready to purchase (promptly selling out), the limited edition offerings have been on point and seem to have good success(I've bought one and and will by a DannyRic sweatshirt for the wife) and are quickly available around the world, and without the need to pay eyewatering shipping expenses.

  • @sanjianandam2303
    @sanjianandam2303 Před 2 lety +57

    You can tell how low they were at 2018, the car was so bare, could hardly get sponsers

    • @racer501_sb
      @racer501_sb Před 2 lety

      Actually got more sponsors than in 2017

    • @instenalable
      @instenalable Před 2 lety +5

      @@racer501_sb That's because Zak Brown became the boss, Ron Dennis was running the team to the ground.

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 Před 2 lety +19

    I wasn't convinced at all by Zac Brown to start with, just thought he was another know-it-all Yank, but he has proved me wrong with some brilliant appointments and progress in such a short time. Here's to many more wins in the near future,

    • @brendonburgess9721
      @brendonburgess9721 Před 2 lety

      His alliance with Andretti in Australia has stablised a floundering Walkinshaw Racing Team, which was once the McLaren of Australian tourings car scene. It has also been a slowly but surely approach, which sounds like Zak's signature style to running race teams.

  • @ObiWanIsCool
    @ObiWanIsCool Před 2 lety +4

    I love these videos. I'm American and got into F1 at the start of the pandemic and the 2020 season the the first full season of F1 I've seen. These types of videos helped me all throughout the pandemic to catch up on the off track stuff with F1. Keep up the good work.

  • @Strangegloves
    @Strangegloves Před 2 lety +112

    McClaren are my favourite team, although I do miss the silver cars.....the late 90s early 00s mclaren cars were just beautiful !!! Also I miss mika !!

    • @LSchelvin71
      @LSchelvin71 Před 2 lety

      2015 ?? 🤔

    • @Strangegloves
      @Strangegloves Před 2 lety +1

      @@LSchelvin71 um.....2015 ?? What are u talking bout ??

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 Před 2 lety +5

      Mika hakkinen was a legend , the only guy Schumacher really respected.

    • @LSchelvin71
      @LSchelvin71 Před 2 lety

      @@Strangegloves livery

    • @lalxl
      @lalxl Před 2 lety +5

      @@LSchelvin71 He means silver cars of the 1990s and early 2000s from the V10 era. Those did look fucking amazing.

  • @Ginbaubabe
    @Ginbaubabe Před 2 lety +13

    So happy my favourite team is finally back in the winners’ circle. What a stylish way to be back too!

  • @TheJL103
    @TheJL103 Před 2 lety +9

    I think getting drivers like Carlos, Riccardo, and Lando have also helped with car inputs as well. They are starting to act like a team rather than a bunch of Country Club gathering.

  • @klazzsdg
    @klazzsdg Před 2 lety +27

    You do wonder what McLaren would be like now if Ron Dennis had managed to complete that proposed buy-out of the other shareholders a few years ago. Would it have continued heading toward basket-case status or would it have completed a similar turnaround?? I don't think they necessarily would have had as much fun as they have had under Zak Brown, he's given that team such a huge morale boost and you can see it in McLaren's Unboxed series.

    • @HumbertoSaabedra
      @HumbertoSaabedra Před 2 lety +8

      It would have collapsed completely and they would be relegated to a historical footnote. The best thing Mansour Ojieh did was look at Ron's attempt to buy out the shareholders as a hostile bid to control a team that was clearly sinking under his direction. Dennis was stuck in his ways and refused any attempt to change for the sake of the team and the business, and that was costing the shareholders millions. He completely floundered when it became clear he would have to put in the actual footwork and effort on the commercial side to secure the team's financial foundation, instead of coming to terms with the fact that sponsors didn't care how great McLaren was, they wanted to know how McLaren was going to win. What a lot of people still don't realize is that Zak Brown was exactly the right person to succeed Dennis, it just took a long time for people to see just how much work he had to put in to clean up after Dennis' years of near catastrophic management.

    • @grabtharandhishammer8251
      @grabtharandhishammer8251 Před 2 lety +2

      I think Ron leaving was one of the fundamental reasons they could turn things around.

    • @tamasbali3200
      @tamasbali3200 Před 2 lety +5

      We cannot downsize Ron's achievements as team principal, because he made Mclaren one of the most successful team in F1's history. I was sad, when he went away from the company, because in naivety I believed, he would make the team great again. But in retrospect, Dennis' departure is one of the best thing that happened with the team. His work ethics, perfectionism doesn't fit in the modern F1 anymore. As a committed Mclaren fanatic, I'm not wondering why many people didn't like them. Mclaren was too grey, too professional, too cold, too arogant... But as Zak and Andreas came in the leadership, they changed everything for the better. Today, Mclaren is nothing like the old days, it's a fun, lighthearted company full with optimism and also they are down to earth. There is nowhere the "we have the best chassis on the grid, only Honda is the one we can blame" bullshit... Instead of Zak said, okay we came home in 1-2, but there's still long way ahead of us. And that's why it's great we are no longer under Ron's leadership :)

  • @bartmoonen9040
    @bartmoonen9040 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, well presented and absorbing. I think Dan made a good move to McClaren when he realised he was going nowhere with Cyril’s team. After watching all of the interviews of Dan after the race, you can see he is a genuine guy with genuine passion who is now with a genuine team, and has finally found his home. He will repay them for being patient with him while he came to grips with the car, by getting many more wins for them. World champion in the making. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. Oi, Oi, Oi.

  • @tcskibike
    @tcskibike Před 2 lety +27

    We can only hope the revival of McLaren means motogp levels of excitement and drama between more than one or two drivers.

  • @AviralBajpai
    @AviralBajpai Před 2 lety +17

    Sadly in F1, unless it happens, it is ALWAYS a question of IF.

  • @jaythe2nd38
    @jaythe2nd38 Před 2 lety +6

    Since Zak Brown joined they have slowly increased the amount of sponsorship they have, and now I think they have the most.

  • @pedroneves4465
    @pedroneves4465 Před 2 lety +7

    From being paid with chocolate bars to the happiest, most cheerful team on the grid right now, this has been glorious. Zak Brown and Andreas Seidl, you legends.

  • @jony1710
    @jony1710 Před 2 lety +16

    Where do you get your performance deficit data that you plot? I'd be very interested seeing all the teams plotted like that over time.
    Also next year is going to be very exciting. We have lots of very talented drivers in very competitive cars, and even the back-markers (mostly Williams) are getting more competitive with each other it seems.

  • @fleghel
    @fleghel Před 2 lety +7

    Got to love that “no adds” feature when paying for premium CZcams! (Sarcasm)
    Interesting views and insights… thank you!

  • @richardpatton2502
    @richardpatton2502 Před 2 lety +7

    I still find it astonishing that Mclaren lost its patience with Honda. They allowed Honda to develop and improve their engine for years and then traded engines! Now the Honda engine is winning races thanks to all those years with Mclaren. Extremely naive decision.
    I love Mclaren and wish them the absolute best

    • @attackhelicopter588
      @attackhelicopter588 Před 2 lety +1

      Honda is winning because they found a team that let them design the engine how they want it.Mclaren wanted it to fit into a small chassis so honda had to make comprises while redbull let them develop the motor and than build the chassis around the engine instead of building the engine around the chassis

    • @kevinquinn7645
      @kevinquinn7645 Před 2 lety

      Ultimately, the decision to move on from Honda brought them back to Mercedes, which currently is the best engine on the grid.

    • @eddherring3088
      @eddherring3088 Před 2 lety

      Honda has withdrawn from F1.

  • @christophermaxson8793
    @christophermaxson8793 Před 2 lety +10

    I literally shed tears when they won. Its been 9 years since a win.

  • @gbajien
    @gbajien Před 2 lety +6

    Good to see them on the front of the grid 👍 F1 needs more title contenders in both constructors & driver’s championship, and this is a step in the right direction. Makes F1 exciting to follow again

  • @TheDRDUCKY
    @TheDRDUCKY Před 2 lety +4

    Wasn’t sure about Zak brown when he took over but I’m more than happy to eat my words! He’s building a monster

  • @lebigmac74
    @lebigmac74 Před 2 lety

    Nice video, that was a really good recap of what happened during the last few years.

  • @lordcroussette
    @lordcroussette Před 2 lety +7

    McLaren got caught up in its own legend. Thankfully, once it realized the glory days had long past, they moved to change for the better.

  • @rhyansanpedro
    @rhyansanpedro Před 2 lety +6

    Just like with anything, leadership trickles down from the top down. Excited to see the team on its way back up.

  • @anthonyschmidt-ellis6353
    @anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 Před 2 lety +3

    Another wonderful video. Thank you THE RACE its great to get all this insight into the world of Formula 1. Your absolutely right, 2018 was the wake up call that Mclaren needed. Also something that I often find gets overlooked is the work that Alonso and Vandorne put in. the advantage of 2018 over 2015-2017 was reliability. Even if your coming plum last every race your still gathering alot more data than if you were breaking down on lap 3 every race. Because of the reliability of the Reanult engine over the Honda they were able to gather far more data and understand there flaws.

  • @adityashubham8381
    @adityashubham8381 Před 2 lety +20

    Mercedes be like - What did your failure do? Bring back to me.

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 Před 2 lety

      I mean Mercedes were the ones to leave McLaren, not otherwise

  • @aniketdubey8362
    @aniketdubey8362 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video. As a business student, I have read many turnaround CEO case studies of the past, and Brown definitely has proven to become one of them.

  • @chrisfogarty5351
    @chrisfogarty5351 Před 2 lety +4

    Andreas Seidl has been the difference. The man was a legend with Porsche, he's now putting McLaren back where they should be

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před 2 lety +2

    I got a sense that Zak was making the right changes and hiring the right people when the James Key hiring was announced. Their efforts are paying off now with Lando in the points almost every race and the Monza result.

  • @mini_steve
    @mini_steve Před 2 lety +7

    Is there any correlation with lap times from Top Gear? Same car, same track.
    We all, as motor sport fans love a fast lap. But Damn... Lewis had 2 goes, and ripped awesome times, but Daniel beat him. Fastest ever lap.. Never forgetting 🇦🇺🤣

  • @VipulKrishna25
    @VipulKrishna25 Před 2 lety +2

    The thing which shows how good the team boss and team principals are and they showed their potential in just 3 years, They learned from their mistakes and now they are a big threat for Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari.

  • @philmcgee8725
    @philmcgee8725 Před 2 lety +1

    That was brilliant. Got to be honest, with the races normally starting at 23:00pm on a Sunday, makes it tough to watch when you have to get up at 04:00am on a Monday. I normally watch the start and wait until Honey Badger slips back thru the field. Not that weekend. Dan, your such a brilliant advert for all things Australian. Job well done mate. May there be many more

    • @ericnoack1324
      @ericnoack1324 Před 2 lety +1

      funny I do the same , I wait for the slip and then it's oh well off to bed lets see what happens next week.

  • @mcgoo721
    @mcgoo721 Před 2 lety +4

    I hope they can carry this momentum into the new car. I'm hoping, maybe naively, that we'll see a much more competitive field with this car update. I'm sure someone will flub it; there'll be a bad car with some issues, but man it would be great to see some of these mid pack teams put up a better fight.

  • @ashclub1
    @ashclub1 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Ed. I'm a big fan of your commentary. I've been waiting all week, for good f1 content and i'm happy. A good story as well.

  • @vikesh500
    @vikesh500 Před 2 lety +22

    Lando Norris will be a world champion with McLaren imo. Excited to see where their journey goes!

  • @Jackisaboss1208
    @Jackisaboss1208 Před 2 lety +1

    Been a McLaren fan the past decade, not 100% sure why. I shed a couple tears listening to Dani Ric on the radio post-race last weekend

  • @TechMyLifeVideo
    @TechMyLifeVideo Před 2 lety +1

    I’m still concerned that Dan says the car is hard to drive, but if they get him involved in the 2022 car, they could be up there next year, as it is a real interesting reset year. They also have one of the most talented, if not the most talented, driver line ups.

  • @southernpride494
    @southernpride494 Před 2 lety +4

    I hope Daniel and Lando keep it together, they both have a real shot next year

  • @JuanAntonEgo
    @JuanAntonEgo Před 2 lety +2

    McLaren Restructure came when the board fired Ron Dennis his Ego got the best of him & it was time for a Change the board knew. Zak Brown came in to Rebuild McLaren big time!
    I'm a Scuderia Ferrari fan & makes me happy that McLaren is on the rite track for winning ways. Congrats to all the McLaren staff & specially to Zak Brown for McLaren comeback!👏👍😎

  • @adibz959
    @adibz959 Před 2 lety +9

    Too much arrogance bring them down. Now, they are on a goog trajectory to be top-team again

  • @classicsportclassictiyl8547

    Tim Goss was the problem he designed the McLaren's from 2013-18 he couldn't find and solve correlation issues with the 2013 and 14 cars, he forced Honda to design the engine to fit the car unlike Red Bull who said to Honda you design the engine we will make it fit in our car. Finally in 2018 he put the front axle in the wrong place and in 2018 he finally got fired and its no coincidence that in 2019 was a big improvement.

  • @mosca3289
    @mosca3289 Před 2 lety +4

    I wonder if Ron Dennis sent Zac a congratulatory message?

    • @philthornton1382
      @philthornton1382 Před 2 lety

      Why would he? Mclaren did him dirty getting rid of him

  • @seapen9608
    @seapen9608 Před 2 lety +1

    Other than the drivers the rise of McLaren can be attributed to Siedl and Zak's easy go mentality by not pressurising the team or drivers. This win will do Ricciardo's confidence a big boost and he has just shown he can hold off Max better than Bottas in a Merc. That Toro Rosso color scheme in the video made it look exactly like a Red Bull drink can.

  • @yt_Ajay_
    @yt_Ajay_ Před 2 lety +6

    The 2018 McLaren looked really good though

  • @enzochiapet
    @enzochiapet Před 2 lety +1

    Would have been nice to go into the 2018 gaps that were revealed, you all basically just glossed over it - after in much detail outlining the opening season 5th place result vis Alonso - and went right to the restructuring. What were the average lap time gaps, quali position gaps, race finish gaps,, etc vs its baseline Renault powered RedBull?

  • @hishamhilal8332
    @hishamhilal8332 Před 2 lety +21

    I think winning one race is not enough to be "back in winning ways"
    I mean Alpine won in Hungary but they are still nowhere near the Renault of the mid 2000s

    • @jblcharge3_basstester
      @jblcharge3_basstester Před 2 lety +5

      But mclaren has more regular podiums than alpine

    • @danielmercado7206
      @danielmercado7206 Před 2 lety +18

      But McLaren won on pure pace and alpine was due to bottas taking out half the grid

    • @TheCalzo77
      @TheCalzo77 Před 2 lety +18

      Because McLaren is actually a race winning car in the sense that Danny went first with all cars on he grid no crashes and no rain, ocon got first via the removal of most of the front 5 plus rain

    • @danielzwanink7714
      @danielzwanink7714 Před 2 lety +4

      True but McLaren are in much better form than Alpine are, and are regularly fighting for podiums

    • @giuseppemaggio5894
      @giuseppemaggio5894 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. Mclaren has gone through financial troubles in the last 2-3 years. Remember they were lucky in finding new money resources at the beginning of this seasons and there were already rumors about them trying to get rid of Ricciardo because of his big paycheck. Yes they got 3rd in the constructors last season and they might get 3rd this seasons as well but I highly doubt we will see them on the same level of Ferrari RB and Mercedes next season

  • @whoami155
    @whoami155 Před 2 lety +1

    Clearly mcl squandered a great opportunity to keep Honda in F1 by basically throwing them under the bus and being cocky confident of their aero package. Sometimes a little humility goes a long way. And this is where Zack and Andreas really make a difference. They have certainly turned around MCL. Looking forward to next season. This coming from a Ferrari fan

  • @RACECAR
    @RACECAR Před 2 lety +1

    Hmmm, "disconnected management" and "a team that simply wasn't enjoyable to work with anymore" Sounds alot like WIlliams when you really think about it. (Especially with how Jost Capito described their Hierachy prior to him coming over). It makes it all the more enjoyable that both are doing so much better, hopefully 22' is the year where they are more closer to the teams I saw when I first started watching Formula 1 in 2004.

  • @ELSTERLING
    @ELSTERLING Před 2 lety +1

    As a child I lived in Woking, fairly close to Mclaren HQ. I was there when Mika Hakkinen drove his title-winning car through the town's streets. Seeing them back in form is a very good feeling.

    • @gweflj
      @gweflj Před 2 lety +2

      I was there too! The car sounded outrageous didn’t it.

    • @ELSTERLING
      @ELSTERLING Před 2 lety +1

      @@gweflj It was brutal and wonderful.

  • @misorodzinak8829
    @misorodzinak8829 Před 2 lety

    Great video. I would be interested in watching a similar analysis of Ferrari and their recent struggles.

  • @srfnsurfer
    @srfnsurfer Před 2 lety +4

    This doesn't feel like a one off, chance win like the Alpine or Toro Rosso wins

  • @Cigeso
    @Cigeso Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone happen to know the background music around 05:30 minutes in? I'm in love with it but can't find anything on it.

  • @johannmckraken9399
    @johannmckraken9399 Před 2 lety

    I love seeing McLaren claw it’s way back into the sport’s top echelon. The still have work to do but they’ve got the team working in the right direction and 2022 is going to be fun to watch. I’ve been a huge fan ever since the Bruce and Denny show and I’ll always remember 1974 when Emerson Fittipaldi brought their first World Championship.

  • @zbatchDOC
    @zbatchDOC Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. More please!

  • @stevo72090
    @stevo72090 Před 2 lety

    Zak and Andreas are the bosses we all wish we had. I started watching F1 in 2019, so watching this video makes me know that this 1-2 finish was wayyyyy more for people that have been watching for years. Making the connection from Hamilton, on why he left.....finding out Sergio Perez was apart of McLaren!?......and just seeing how a dark orange/black car became the blue and papaya.
    I'm so happy for McLaren, and their futures. Lando and Daniel are going places.
    I want McLaren vs Ferrari vs Red Bull vs Mercedes!!

  • @utkarshupadhyay7873
    @utkarshupadhyay7873 Před 2 lety +1

    i think zak brown handing the mclaren headquaters was the best thing that could have happened to them

  • @a29561
    @a29561 Před 2 lety +2

    was very unprepared for the VPN ad, but oh well if it keeps The Race's lights on.

  • @simewood2040
    @simewood2040 Před 2 lety

    Great story. Great report. Many thanks 🙏🏻

  • @henrytsao1
    @henrytsao1 Před 2 lety +2

    Still remember I would avoid McLaren team radio just because how toxic it had become. After the restructure, the team became alive and now I always look for their team radio. Partly because of Zak too lmao

  • @historickeeper
    @historickeeper Před 2 lety

    Really hope this is a start for things to come two great drivers and a team to boot.

  • @jpKnight7
    @jpKnight7 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video. Please dive into McLaren’s decline and rise in another vid. I do believe that McLaren will be able to introduce a championship challenge within a few years. It’s hard to predict what 2022 will bring but, given that Zak Brown is an amazing leader and that Andreas Seidl is a genius, I think Danny and Lando will succeed.

  • @lordjoemott1683
    @lordjoemott1683 Před 2 lety +1

    I said it a couple of years ago, and I’ll say it again, I like what Zak Brown is doing with McLaren.

  • @GundamVisuals
    @GundamVisuals Před 2 lety

    Brown literally rebuilt the whole F1 team. He broke it down back to the foundation and rebuilt from there. Bring Seidel and Key in was such a genius move too. Brown saved the team and Seidel and Key supported that. They are all legends. I’m so stoked on McLaren’s upbringings.

  • @gruffalobill4812
    @gruffalobill4812 Před 2 lety +3

    Super happy to see McLaren on the rise. For me personally, just need Williams up there too.

  • @sledge1swede654
    @sledge1swede654 Před 2 lety +1

    It is for sure Brown and his visions that set a path to make things positive and I can see 5 years from now as a potential goal to have Mclaren at top again but Riccardo or Norris will never be there sadley.

  • @Tehlongcat
    @Tehlongcat Před 2 lety +1

    As a lifelong McLaren fan it broke my heart to see them fall so low… but it felt goddamn incredible to watch them come across the line 1-2. Long may it continue.

  • @CuriousPug12
    @CuriousPug12 Před 2 lety +1

    Pointing zak brown as the team boss and the signing of andreas seidl and james key is the "key" for their resurgence(no pun intended)

  • @kianstorer9499
    @kianstorer9499 Před 2 lety

    I don't think people realise just how bad the situation was at Mclaren a little over 3 years ago. It took Zak time to settle in with the team and understand the context of the problems but he bit the bullet in mid 2018 knowing that it may not pay off but it did. There's always been life in the team, it's just about whether they could be consistent and whether they were able to overcome the struggles that to them weren't so obvious.

  • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
    @SuperNuclearUnicorn Před 2 lety +15

    God I hope this "rude awakening" leads to Dan destroying shit from here. Us Aussies jump on the bandwagon as soon as any of us do well overseas and I'd love to see it

  • @stephentuthill4598
    @stephentuthill4598 Před 2 lety +3

    With their two phenomenal drivers, in Lando and the Honey Badger, next year is going to be exciting!

  • @cvincent0906
    @cvincent0906 Před 2 lety

    Being a Lewis Hamilton fan, I remember suffering the frustrations of a team that performed in a rudderless senior management vacuum in the four years after Lewis won his first WDC. In fact the decline had already started in 2007, where McClaren literally threw away the constructors championship with Ferrari gate and also donated the WDC to Kimi with ridiculous race management at China and Brazil - the latter compounding a mysterious gearbox issue in Hamilton’s car that served to slow him down enough in the first few laps and resulted in him losing the WDC by ONE point. The decline gained pace in 2009 where McClaren were wrong footed by the new regulations that saw Brawn win both championships. And the rot really set in in 2010, 11 and 12 where despite having a fast car and Lewis Hamilton’s brilliance, the inept team management resulted in performances plagued by poor reliability, and unforgivably bad race management. I totally remember the week in week out frustration of watching the brilliance of Lewis Hamilton continually undermined by poor team strategy, poor team execution and poor reliability. And when Ross Brawn and the late Nikki Lauda started to court Lewis Hamilton in 2012, I was praying that he would leave McClarens sinking ship and join a team headed by Ross who had proven his ability to run a team to exploit the best talent on grid with his achievements with Ferrari and Michael Schumacher. I remember the likes of Martin Brundle seriously questioning Lewis’s decision to move to Mercedes in 2012, but I was applauding and celebrating the move. And of course how the McClaren ship sinking continued in the years that followed Hamilton’s departure. The 2013 car designed without input from Lewis Hamilton was a disaster. In 2012 McClaren finished 3rd in constructors championship. In 2013,14 and 15 they finished 5th, 5th and 9th respectively. It’s good to see that the management have finally sorted themselves out and the team are now looking like the pedigree outfit that McClaren once were.

  • @autodata2011
    @autodata2011 Před 2 lety +1

    Love Zak, great job!

  • @Sparrowash97
    @Sparrowash97 Před 2 lety +1

    People: But Mclarens results where boosted by the the misfortune of others and the timing of the safety car.
    Interesting how everyone forgets the misfortune of others when talking about race winners like Gasley, Perez, Ocon, the like.
    Not that I have a problem with them winning, and I only watched F1 from mid 2019 onwards.
    But it’s interesting how people didn’t give McLaren as much credit as other teams in similar positions now 🤔

  • @sm70911
    @sm70911 Před 2 lety +1

    Zak Brown is smart AF. Fully 100% invested in Lando Norris, and with Ricciardo they are formidable. The next podium for Mclaren will be Norris

  • @Roberto_79
    @Roberto_79 Před 2 lety

    Great video… McLaren have always been my Formula One team. It’s been some painful years of viewing. Even though the Weeknd was music to my ears, I still believe we are 3 to 4 years away from being a regular race winning competitor.

  • @gumnaamaadmi007
    @gumnaamaadmi007 Před 2 lety +2

    I am more excited to see who gets 3rd place in the constructors championship than who finishes on top. It will be an exciting battle between McLaren and Ferrari for the rest of the season.

  • @JHRocknRoll
    @JHRocknRoll Před 2 lety +1

    I love this team. Great to see them up there again!

  • @AJ-ey7gc
    @AJ-ey7gc Před 2 lety +3

    In 2018, Zak Brown announced a 5yr plan to get McLaren back on top. Think the man and the team are on target!

  • @andrewking_8
    @andrewking_8 Před 2 lety +2

    ZAK. BROWN.
    Think Seidel is legit too. Was awesome to see him excited after the 1-2 since he’s always so measured/calm. They deserved it, and that’s coming from a Ferrari fan lol

  • @mattc7095
    @mattc7095 Před 2 lety +2

    Now we just need the Gulf livery to come back full time and it's perfect

  • @tommyvercetti1989
    @tommyvercetti1989 Před 2 lety

    That 2018 mclaren had a fundamental aero flaw from the front tyres to the sidepods making the rear end unstable

  • @davemis40
    @davemis40 Před 2 lety +1

    I was very sceptical about Brown when he was appointed.. I thought he was just a marketing guy who sold advertising.. how wrong I was .. him and Seidel have turned McLaren around and a great decision to give Sainz and Lando race seats. Honda partnership was a disastrous period .. thank god they’ve gone back to Merc.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Před 2 lety

      Brown is a failed race car driver, the same as Horner actually -- British F3 and Formula 3000 respectively. :)

    • @davemis40
      @davemis40 Před 2 lety

      @@TassieLorenzo I didnt know that

  • @jeffgray3863
    @jeffgray3863 Před 2 lety

    I think any predictions to the future performance of all the cars in F1 is sort of guess work.
    The huge change in the design & I’d guess mostly the 18” wheels will have a dramatic effect on all teams.
    Along with the cap on spending of course.
    I do hope the 2022 changes close the gap of the BIG 2 and the mid pack.

  • @EchoMirage72
    @EchoMirage72 Před 2 lety +1

    How about a full length documentary on all of the teams.