Cheap Bike Vs Super Bike | Nukeproof Mega Vs Calibre Bossnut
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- Mountain Biking is an amazing sport, with so many options for bikes & kit out there, the possibilities to build your dream setup really are endless! But with these possibilities comes costs, but does the cost really need to be high to have fun!? Join Blake Samson as he puts two drastically different bikes together to find out!
⏱ Timestamps ⏱
0:00 - Intro
2:37 - Value for money
4:21 - Acceleration/braking test
5:52 - Performance
8:11 - Climbing
9:40 - Desirability
11:28 - Descending
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Pinkbike would use the £6000 as the cheap bike.
So true 😂
They used a vitus mythique costing not much more than the bossnut and loved it
Although they did review the Bossnut a few years back!
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@@knott4me561 rn on a website u buy from its on offer for 900 :O
blake and blake are my favourite gmbn presenters, love it when they are in a video together.
It's the perfect presenting duo! 😅
It’s even better when Blake is in there too!
I missed Spanish Blake! 🤣🤣🤣
right??? who is better than blake?? ANOTHER BLAKE
Blake if you read this, I personally really appreciate the effort and energy you put in to these kinds of videos.
Thanks mate.
Awwww thank you very much dude. Much appreciated ❤
@@BlakeSamson8 same here, love the enthusiasm 😀 One thing Blake, there are no front shocks (unless you ride that old ass ugly Whyte bike) so saying shock is good enough, no need to add rear to it👍🏼
Blake's the man!
For the desirability test you should ask them "Which bike would you buy with your own money?" Pretty sure the results would be vastly different.
"Push the vanity aside and enjoy the ride", what a great takeaway Blake!
The review rightly concludes that the Bossnut is good if a tight budget is necessary. But I think other factors also count. If I had Blake's skill level and lived somewhere that I could reach radical terrain with ease then I could justify a superbike to myself (though being paranoid of theft). As I haven't and don't I know my Bossnut is not holding me back.
Thanks man!
Yeah, the Bossnut is still a great bike if that's what you can afford! 🤘
You have a great bike there. Until you start doing some rough stuff, that Bossnut will take anything you throw at it. The GF has one, we just put a smaller ring gear on to help with the climbs.
i have always said to people it doesn't matter what you ride as long as you are out there having fun and getting muddy
Well said Nick! 🙌
Thing is Blake you've put an enduro bike against a trail bike
It would've been a slightly better comparison with two trail bikes
Yep, and a new vs used
True, but only furthers the point that all the money, trick bits, and bottomless travel don't mean much really.
I think it would have been a better comparison if the tyre set up and travel were the same. Then the differential is just the bike itself. Fun watch tho
@@timmayers4965 not really, as things like tyre set up (options), suspension and travel are partly driven by budget..
Yeah same or close to it for travel and setup. Would be a good comparison.
Then swap the tyres over on the two bikes and watch the cheap bike shine.
Perhaps a tune up by doddy on el-cheapo before to make it fairer
Don't let this video fool you. The Bossnut is a damn good (starter, or otherwise) bike for the money. My Girlfriend has one as a starter bike and as a mountain bike rider of 25 years, I am thoroughly impressed with the Bossnut. Swap out the chain ring for something smaller and you have a really good, well rounded bike. If there is someone in your life wanting to get into mountain biking, the Bossnut is one hell of a starting point. Calibre created a home run with this bike!!
Woop woop we made the cut. Thanks GMBN. Great video with the two Blakes side by side. Were just not sure which Blake we love more.🤙🏽👊🏽
Haha i watched your vid with blake in the other day now this go on ryan 🤣 👍🏼
You're welcome! We're stoked that you loved the video and enjoyed your feature! 😉👊
Should have used the 2020 bossnut as a comparison at the very least. Similar travel bikes also.
You should give the Caliber to Doddy and Anna on Tech to show how simple and affordable upgrades on cheaper bikes can transform ride quality. Go tubeless, service and set up suspension properly, brake pads and rotor upgrades, service gears etc then give it back to Blake to get his opinion on how different the bike feels.
Had a Bossnut and loved it but it should have bee compared to a trail bike and not an enduro
So true you can ride any bike as long as you enjoy it!!!!!
I want to point out that if you're at beginner level it's better to be over-biked than under-biked. If you're very good you can be under-biked and still sred in anything, just see Sam Pilgrim 😁 . If you're starting, a bike that has a slack geometry, good suspension, powerful brakes, and so on will inspire you confidence and help you push that bit more. Not saying that the cheap bike is not up to the task either. You need to find a balance within your budget.
god i love gmbn subliminal nukeproof advertising.
I really like seeing budget bikes from brands other than your sponsors. Not to mention, you don’t bash them the entire time just because they aren’t paying you like pinkbike does.
Should really compare like with like, of course the 170/165 travel is gonna smash everything. Could have used the latest bossnut too. As others have commented do the head to head against a 130 travel bike
It’s pretty irrelevant, the bossnut is dog shit.
@@Thesomersetgimp 🤣 says a man who can't ride like Blake. 🤣🤡
Latest bossnut?! They aren't made any more and haven't been for several years - so it doesn't really matter does it.
So this was the vid you were filming! I was the fella who jumped in for a selfie with you dude, great bloke took the time to chat with me 🤘🤘
One factor to think about is that how many more hours do I have to work to get the expensive bike...with $32/hr wage (this is US average) you need to be at work about 200hrs more than cheap option...I think I prefer to be on trails for 200 hours versus 200 hours in the office
Blake I just watched your 'Megavalanche 2019 On A Hardtail!' what a f*cking legend mate!!! that's some serious Hardtail lov'n!
Love the Hardtail dude. That was a hell of a challenge
How GOOD is this video - this was class team GMBN
Blake your a legend mate,that was so good as always a good laugh and informative.Keep up the great work.
Thoroughly enjoyable video to watch coming back from some fun blue trails in Scotland this afternoon. My 13yo daughter was having a blast on her £240 (2nd hand parts build) giant full sus with hydraulic breaks and 1x9 and wife on giant atx with entry level components had a smile on too!
Love these kinds of challenges! 👌
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"the front wheel is the wrong way round" not the bikes fault really, just incompetence and an issue that can easily be solved.
Also issues with maintenance should have been sorted before riding surely? Not really a fair test.
If the front tyre was on the wrong way round they should’ve flipped the wheel round. Sure, the brake rotor would be on the wrong side, but it would be fine, right? 😂
you should do the same bike with a high end build, middle build, and lower build. but all on the same bike frame
Also remember Nukeproof itself is a value oriented brand, and has budget builds of the Mega. As for the Bossnut, it's been updated recently and has better geo and a decent component build for that 1100 quid price point
Love the idea of the video but how can you compare and enduro with 170mm travel to a trail bike with 130?
This makes it a worthless video.
@@fourutubez7294 on the contrary, it proves that a trail bike is very, very nearly as capable as an enduro costing 10x the price, with the same rider.
On the DH, it was a 3 second gap. That's nothing, when you realise the shocker on the nukey cost more than a bossnut brand new.
@@g.w.customcreations3534 Yeah sure it is .....
@@fourutubez7294 Blake just proved it is. 😅 can't argue with a 3 second difference on a pretty tough descent. There's a much wider difference between the front runners & back markers at the Fort William World Cup. And they're all pro's on superbikes.
Your average trail bike is far more capable than your average rider.
@@g.w.customcreations3534 I can sell you London Bridge , nice and cheap
I wish, I've watch this video before I bought my suspension bike, lol, no regrets, but I still have my old hartail that I'm doing full overhaul, I got inspired by all of you, specially you Blake! I'll share it when done, love the video!
I think a better test would be if you bought both bikes brand new then compared them. The boss but was let down with it’s parts coming loose, worn tyres etc etc
and also with brand new identical tyres. Tyres are not really a part of the bike like pedals.
I have 8000 Trek slash 2022 model. No regrets. Its an absolute god. Never had as much fun on a bike.
Yes sir! I have the electric version of that bike (rail) and i LOVE IT
More Budget Blake please 😁😁😁
Blake and Blake is always a funny duo. Hilarious!
review awesome, and music is fire!
13:14 that rear wheel is definitely flexing a lot
Can we do some upgrades on the Budget bike and Go Again....
The nukeproof was £6k new...
The Calibre was £1100 new... but bought for £600... I reckon the £500 could go along way especially if all the parts you buy are 2nd hand also...
I think you could get larger rotors, a lockout rear shock, dropper post, tyres, rear derailleur and a chain ring and possibly a better fork all for the £500
No Lmao how cheap do you think those are
The Bossnut definitely at-least deserved new tires setup tubeless 😂. Nothing changes ride quality more than new us used tires especially when used tires have tubes vs new tire setup tubeless at lower psi. In all bike comparison and reviews, tires need to always be setup the same and ideally with the exact same tire model. Nukeproof is also a mullet with 29er up front.
@@derek2gloves yeah definitely the tires should've been tubeless but I'm just saying 500 cannot buy anywhere near all that
Push vanity aside and just enjoy the ride
More people need to hear that
I’ve been lucky enough to build and ride myself pretty premium bikes with range topping components, but I have never had so much fun as I do now with my mid spec Orbea Rallon (Fox 38 Perf, XT all around and Hydra hubs). Solid and reliable parts is what our daily ride needs! The best performance out of the least money as possible, always in balance with the rest of the build 🙂
As someone who has just upgraded from the Bossnut to a Nukeproof Mega, as a starter bike I don’t think you can beat the Bossnut.
my mate had a bossnut for a year and was sending it down huge jump lines like full moto at dirt farm. absolute shredder of a bike
Enduro vs trail bike, new vs used, new tubeless tires vs used tires with tubes, backwards front tire on Bossnut wasn't fixed lol, mullet setup vs 27.5, rear lockout shock vs not...too many differences vs $2,500 new vs $7,500 new trail bike. Great video though as always, that I think proves budget wins! All budget build needed was new tires setup tubeless, fix headset torque, and bonus would be new rear shock with lockout.
Blake v Blake vids are the best \,,/
Great video although the price per kilo was a bit silly! I think you need to re-visit with new tubeless tyres and a bit of a suspension tune and then see how they compare. Love your energy, just makes me wanna go out and ride! 🤘
I was kind of hoping you would have used the Polygon seeing as Calibre seem to be finished. Polygon have taken over the spotlight of the best budget I reckon, taking the Bossnut's spot. I do love the Bossnut though, I owned the 2020 version and was my baby before I went e-bike due to knee issues. Of course if I could afford it, I would most definitely get a fancy dan bike like the Nukeproof!
Seems like the Boardman MTR 8.9 is the new bossnut? It seems to be winning alot of the budget bike comparisons.
UK trails look fantastic
Mr weekend warrior here. This makes me feel much better for having bought a budget bike as a starting point. No way am I going to torture myself (or bike) as you two did. So my new lower-end-travel trail bike will be good enough for me.
I started of on a budget hardtail then moved on to a more expensive full sus. I still ride my hardtail honesty you don’t need a expensive bike to fave fun.
Surely it would've been better to compare the Bossnut with an equivalent Trail superbike, rather than an Enduro monster?
Good vid though. Blake vs Blake is always amusing!
I ride a 2023 Carbon Mega 297 with the EXT coil, Öhlins RXF38 M.3 fork, magura MT7 pro HC3 brakes, XO T-Type SRAM drivetrain/transmission, carbon wheels/bars/bottle cage, blah blah blah... It's a sick bike... I will never recover from the expense of this build. I wish it was a cheaper bike every time I crash. Save your money.
I’m 6.3 and just ordered a XXL mullet , I’ve tried an xl felt small hope the bike rides well!
That looks so cool
I have a nukeproof .... I love it... From Ecuador
This is a bit of a duff comparison. The last version of Bossnut had thru axels, 1x, tubeless ready and a semi sensible maxxis tyre set up. The point of the nut was a basis to upgrade from. Yes, a 6k custom build is going to be awesome but this isn’t a proper like for like comparison. Essentially this is a Nukeproof advert.
Yes, I’m a bossnut rider. Take mine for a spin with upgraded rear shock (cane creek) tubeless, thru axels, dropper and upgraded mech but importantly, come ride them round bedgebury where it’s not all about gravity and more like what a 130 travel bike is made for.
I used to have a shadownut and to be fair it took every thing I threw at it and I loved it do much if kept it as a spare bike
Blake doing what he does best, smiling, riding, flying and just generally having fun and forgetting to tighten everything before the ride, was it twice his head set came loose? Seriously though he is a brilliant presenter and rider, always down to earth except obviously when he is 30ft in the air whipping it sideways like a fighter pilot pulling a 9G turn. Awesome stuff!
I always by the cheapest complete bike and over time pull the parts off to upgrade to my spec. At least then you can sell the cheaper parts to help compensate for the upgrades.
Main thing is it doesn’t matter how much you spend it’s if your having fun
could be hard to upgrade the rear triangle and linkage..
Wish they’d of tried the carerra at the same price point
I actually have a 2021 good bike!! Now i'm looking for and old school budget bike
Hey now, I have a Polygon Vander T7, which is the same frame as the bossnut. $1800USD, and it hasn’t let me down in any way yet. 👍🏼👍🏼
With desirability you should have specified that it was with their own money. Obviously the nukeproof is more desirable but if I had to fork out my own cash I'd probs go for for the bignut.
Great job! How about the cheap bike with no after market parts? But yeah very well done and definitely a wee bit scary for the first time!
Those are two of my favorite GMBN presenters. I just wish they didn't fight all the time. hahaha
Hi B. Quick question. Silly one I suppose. How did you identify the headset was loose and how did that affect the ride?
Another question if I may. Did you guys have silverback bikes there?
Finally, I found the mountain bike version of DonutMedias High vs Low
Congrats Budget Blake ! even the Calibre seems pricey for me
I work for the company that sell the bossnuts and can confirm that the rear triangle snaps, gear hangar snaps and a majority off the bossnuts have faults with there bottom brackets a month after use. Dont get me wrong, they are solid if your getting into mountain biking and starting off on trails. p.s i have owned one and snapped the frame. This comment are from experiences
Just enjoy what u can afford 😜
The only thing i can pick out is the rear shocks are different sizes otherwise they look just as expensive as each other but i don't know much about bikes.
Calibre sentry would of been a closer match ok more expensive at 2k but 160mm travle front and rear, 12 speed and a dropper as standard
i was looking at the calibre bossnut for christmas but its £1100 and my parents said it to expensive. im saving up for it myself and cant wait to get it
Blake what length of Stem are you using on Mega?
Uhh, why does the headset keep loosening off? Did someone over tighten it and stretch the bolts out at some point?
Blake if you see this I was just wondering how tall you are because I use a size medium NP mega aswell? Just curious
great idea for a video the problem is right now the bossnut is out of stock on calibre's website :(
3:37 Damn the previous owner dropped almost a third of the cost of the bike, new, on brakes but couldn't figure out which way round to put the tyres on? so you basically paid for the brakes and got a free bike. thats some pretty choice decisions right there.
3:57 and you should say that because shimano are a sponsor it was free.
Blake is amazing don’t get me wrong but I feel like there should be someone comparing these bikes on an average level. Blake is not an average rider so it’s hard for us to relate in my opinion because Blake is a monster on a bike. The average mountain biker should know that spending more will mean more comfort which I think is most important, riding ability comes with comfort and comfort means becoming a better rider. I got better when I got a better bike. Especially switching from a Hardtail to a Full Suspension. Everything just got much better. Now I went from a $1300 hardtail to a $3800 full suspension. So the suspension is ok but it’s not like the Nukeproof but a better bike will make you a better rider and you will be a much more bold rider with the right equipment to do the job.
I would have guessed a MUCH bigger time difference with the descending
I was looking at couple Nukeproofs at weekend for £1500 to 2k what put me off was the carbon frames just some I don't want with the new weight saving obsession from companies there not using bonding resin through out the moulding process just on the outside and the inner hollow leaving dry fibres in-between layers causing the carbon to be more brittle than it used to be this needs to addressed by companies so many failing! This was all shown and explained by a UK carbon repair specialist company it's definitely put me off a carbon frame
Can you get Calibre in Europe? any Buy now button I press on their official leads to "Page not found"
Without wishing to boringly repeat everyone else: use the new bossnut vs a trail bike. OR try the Sentry for an enduro contests.
But the other bike is his new custom build so guessing that was the starting point in terms of inspiration for the vid. Its just some fun it isn't proper science!
Good to know, but I would rather shred on a super bike. Still, I'm impressed with the budget bike and would recommend that route for the beginner unsure how serious they are about the sport. Thanks Blake!
My back tire is still on backwards, cba to change it back😂 reckon it helps more with climbing
It only helps with breaking..
It's also not just about one day's riding, but over time, you have to replace parts sooner on the cheaper bike ,making it sometimes more expensive than the other bike
There's a sweet spot in terms of price point where you get suspension and other components that's good enough for pretty much everyone barring pros, about $2500 to $3000 american dollars will get you a really good bike, if you spend more than that you start to get diminishing returns, of course best bang for buck is to buy a good condition second hand bike that's one or two years old.
Should of done the video with the 2020 bossnut
It's a shame you can't get Calibre bikes new any more. I love my Triple B, as with a few upgrades it now does everything! All I need to do now is spend £6000 on some fancy new legs and lungs...oh wait...😐
Called Polygon now. GoOutdoors and Blacks sell them. Siskiu is an upgraded Bossnut.
Which helmet are you using?
Please do stuff like this with like bikes. So instead of a top of the line enduro race sled pick a premium build trail bike and do these same tests. Maybe even add in a middle ground spec build. Also, I don't think it would go against the spirit of the challenge to do some upgrading/servicing like 203 front rotor, tubeless conversion on those wheels, fresh rubber, suspension service if needed and obviously a headset service. I know doing all that would make the Bossnut closer to a 1k bike but thats still extremely cheap when comparing to a 6K superbike. The outcome would likely still be similar but the tests would be much closer.
I've been really impressed by Commencal. They offer a lot of bike for the price.
Would've been a more even comparison to use a calibre sentry which I reckon would hold it's own in most of these challenges.
Still a great video though and must have taken a lot of time and effort on all the blake v blake sequences.
I guarantee the amount of enjoyment on the cheaper bike will be pretty much the same as the expensive rig
That's what I anticipated (I'm the 'proud' owner of a Bossnut). However what struck me was that although in practical terms there wasn't a huge difference Blake was clearly more stoked after the Nukeproof runs.
Always the way. I ride a lot of natural DH on North Yorkshire moors. My 190mm rig is super fast, grippy, and stable. But its miles more fun on my 140mm orange five. 😁
I have seen so many Bikers just Riding! Over the jumps and they dont really jump.... At al,cant you make a'film about the difference in "Poping" commpresing the dampeners before the jump,and just Riding over them,really show the difference!
The biggest problem is the fact that if you kept riding the cheap bike that hard, it would only be a short time before you broke it. The cost of upgrading is usually more than getting a bike with good components from the start.
Agreed. That bike was never designed for the terrain found in the downhill of this video. But, that does not take away from how great the Bossnut is!!
anyone interested in a used Bossnut, good state, great for beginners and budget oriented people? Especially good for people with hearing problems, slow riders and those that stay away from anything that could bring the bike to its limits, and a good set of protective gear just in case..
Great video 😃 if you are a beginner you can easily ride the cheaper bike 😃😃
For sure! 💯 Thanks, Anita!
Trails don’t pay bills 10:32
Shout out you.💙
Can’t put a price tag on having fun 👍🏻
You betcha! 🎉🙌
£6000? I’ve just built up the EXT version of that Mega with parts such as the ZEB ultimate, GX eagle, XT brakes, DT Swiss wheels and nukeproof finishing kit for less than £4k with all new parts! Get some better deals Blake!
Id love to see a blind test of budget bike vs expensive bike. Every comparison video I see the riders talk about how they held back due to fear. Well that's not a true comparison then is it?
If it weren’t for constant wet and cold weather in the UK I think I’d actually enjoy riding some of the awesome trails seen in your videos.
It’s not constantly wet and cold. Sometimes it’s windy and cold.
@@hmallett still not ideal
@@Velo1010 Sometimes it’s snowy and cold too.
@@hmallett I wouldn’t ride in the snow nevertheless drive in it. We just don’t have that type of weather in Texas so you’re can see why cold and wet isn’t good weather. We are used to a hot and humid climate.