Wirbelwind vs Allies (Strafes & Loiters) | Unit Test | Company of Heroes

P-47 Strafing Run - US (0:00)
P-47 Dive Bomb - US (0:09)
Dual P-47 Rocket Strike - US (0:18)
Incendiary Bombing Run - UK (0:32)
Anti-Tank Rocket Loiter - UK (0:51)
Carpet Bombing Run (vs 4 Wirbelwind) - US (1:19)
Carpet Bombing Run (vs 6 Wirbelwind) - US (1:35)
Umber Wasp - Patch Notes
Anti-Air
We have made significant changes to the balance of anti-air and airstrike abilities. In general, anti-air units will be significantly more effective at stopping airstrikes within their vicinity. Furthermore, anti-air can now engage planes beyond the protected border regions of the map, giving anti-air more time to respond.
Most mobile anti-air units have been standardized to output similar damage to aircraft. The following units have been changed:
CWT 15CMP AA Truck
Crusader AA
M16 Quad Halftrack
Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind
Flak 30 20mm AA Gun Team
Flakvierling Halftrack
Airstrike Abilities have also been separated into general classes of durability. The list below goes from least durable to most durable:
Strafing Runs (P-47 Strafing Run from the ASC, Luftwaffe Strafing Run)
Close-in/Dive Bombs (P-47 Dive Bomb from the ASC, Fragmentation Bombs)
Loiter (Hawker Typhoon Anti-tank loiter)
Reconnaissance versions of Strafing, Dive Bombs, and Loiters (Recon Artillery, P-47 Reconnaissance Loiter)
Heavy Bomber Runs (Carpet Bombing Run, Breakthrough Incendiary Bombing Run)
A single anti-air unit will be able to deny nearby Strafes, but multiple anti-air units are required to deny higher durability abilities. Two AA units will generally be able to lock down an area, while three will deny all but the Heavy Bomber Runs, which are designed to be largely unaffected by AA. Keep in mind this will have minor differences by map, direction of the airstrike, and when the anti-air unit faces its target.
These relationships only matter when the anti-air is covering a specific area. While anti-air can cover a significant area, they have been tuned that additional anti-air units are required to cover the larger 4 vs 4 maps. This is something we’ll keep an eye on and rebalance in the future as necessary, but the intended goal is that airstrikes should be counterable even in smaller game modes such as 1 vs 1, but not to the point they become irrelevant in larger game modes where players can more easily specialize into airstrikes or anti-air.
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[@Vas1]

Posting the same comment I just wrote on your video where you show Flakvierling vs Allies:
I'm beginning to wonder if the carpet bombing run can even be completely shot down before it drops at least one payload. Over the last couple of days I've been playing vs 4 expert AI with a friend with a tuning pack allowing for 500 pop cap. We kept on getting hit pretty hard from the carpet bombers, while we were able to shoot down most of the other air strikes before they could even reach us.
So today I said: "I'll keep on building flaks until it doesn't get through anymore", mostly to try it out. Since we had so much available pop cap, I built about 20 mobile flak, several flak encampments (through german air-dropped pioneers) and even got around 6 Wirbelwind AA-tanks after that. Still, the carpet bombers were able to deal quite a lot of damage, dropping 1 - 2 of their 3 payloads.
Do you have any insight on if this type of air strike behaves differently in terms of being able to damage it? It feels like they fly higher (can't see them until they've flown past you, even with max zoomout using a zoom mod) and that our AA start shooting at them later compared to other planes.

[@zoidberg1576]

nice test, nice demo, thank you

[@tidaltv]

Thanks for watching!

[@ArrangedKarma]

I have to admit, this is pretty nice.
Before this, AA was practically worthless and US Strafing runs just completely dominated the game. Any time axis inf did anything, 1 strafe landing even just NEAR THEM, not even hitting them, could completely pin them and force a retreat.
But now I feel like maybe were on the opposite end. Plane strikes are mostly worthless with dedicated AA now. Which, and I know this series isnt exactly striving for this, realistically makes sense. Going in for a strafing or bombing run directly over AA tanks/emplacements was indeed a death sentence, but this is more so about balance.
Perhaps AA could instead be less overwhelmingly lethal, but could in turn suppress planes, making their strikes go off course and be less of a direct hit, or in the case of strafing runs, simply suppress rather than completely pin the target.
But for now it is enjoyable to imagine the tears of the US air spammers, who were probably enjoying the tears of the axis last patch :)

[@NguyenHoang-mo7hs]

This is all good. However, this is an obvious nerf to strafe in general. Perhaps we could get a cost reduction for them down the line. Other than that, I am happy to see how well it shoots down other planes. Even if it doesn't deny the payload, you still get some vet out of it.

[@darthvaders1fan210]

Pls do this with the Dak flak AA gun

[@tidaltv]

I have! Video comes out tomorrow