So It Turns Out This ACTUALLY Could Have Happened.
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- čas přidán 22. 11. 2023
- Christian Horner has claimed that Lewis Hamilton's team approached him about a Red Bull seat in 2024. And confirmed he had talks with Ferrari. Blimey.
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Hamilton and Verstappen at Red Bull together would be world war 3 for the F1 fanbase😂 and maybe the field
Redbull dont want a Diva drama queen
@@outlawf1272 Are they sacking max?
As a Broncos fan here in Denver Lewis reignited my love for F1...and now I'm a Alonso, Norris and Verstappen fan. I cant imagine Hamilton joining Red Bull, there would be fist fights in the paddock and on the track and in the stands and in bars/pubs all over the planet.
@@AlvinWillistonDavis never, max is the king of F1 👑
@@outlawf1272 King of what? Nah fam.
It’s not weakness from Hamilton to want to be in the dominant car, and it’s not weakness from Verstappen or Redbull to know that it’s just not worth the hostility that having them together would bring. Verstappen will back himself to beat Hamilton, but why go through all that
Drama with no winners. Apart from us fans, box office.
yes I agree with you for RB this move doesn't make any sense. The drama would be excellent for us fans but my god Max in the same team with Lewis it's a banger for sure.
It's hard to imagine them together, but I'm 100% sure Max would be so fired up he would try every weekend to pin Lewis down to submission, the same guy asking Horner to get Lewis would be visiting Horner few months down the line asking to release Lewis from his worst nightmare lol 😂
Nah I’d say it would be weakness from Lewis to bail on Merc after just 2 seasons of being 2nd/3rd best, but ultimately nothing came from it and who knows if he even was pushing it or if it was just his team seeing what options there were
Hamilton has always been a piggybacker who chooses the easiest roads. One of the key things that seperate him from Schumacher who never chased the best teams and built his own success despite choosing the hard roads.
@@ey1615 rofl. Lewis left McLaren, the 2nd best team who he'd won a championship with for Mercedes, the 5th best team at the time and built them into an 8 time world championship team who'd NEVER won a championship before then. Lewis was ridiculed for going to Mercedes and called a moron for leaving McLaren when he almost won 2010 there. You clearly didn't watch the sport then. How dumb are people like you that just 100% lie about facts that can be proven? Like you know we know you're a liar?
Senna vs Prost could be Hamilton vs Verstappen. I need it.
Absolutely
Yeah. What is different about the senna prost battle is that Prost actually wanted mclaren to sign Senna for 88. The "relationship" they had deteriorated in front of our eyes. Verstappen and Hamilton would never want to be in the same team.
Would have been if they joined forces when Lewis was still at the top of his game. Max has been the clearly better driver since 2021 and it only started to become clearer since then.
Lewis and max would be the driver pairing from hell. It would he so chaotic that I think I'd have to delete twitter because the two nutjob fanbases would be too much to handle 😂
Hell is underrated
On Twitter I see wayy more crazy Ham fans. I see some crazy Max fans but mostly ham's.
@@tiagoferreira5368 what are you doing here. Join the stream 😜😂
As much as we hate it, the best team pairing is not w drivers that have similar pace, it is when you have a 1st and 2nd driver that constantly is 0.2, 0.3 seconds slower. Carlos Sainz is the perfect 2nd driver, slower, but very reliable and on his day even matches or surpasses Leclerc. But he has few of these days, so has not to get the team problems with decisions of they were to fight for a WDC.
Not sure where these fabled ‘crazy max fans’ are, they seem pretty normal
If this would have had happened just imagine the dynamic between "Team LH" and "The Verstappen Shaggers". Lol
Redbull dont want a Diva drama queen
@@outlawf1272As opposed to the idol of humbleness they have at present.
@@gouravghosh588lmao that made me laugh. Both Verstappen and Hamilton fans are walking hypocrites. Any statement they say, can easily be refuted. Both fans should enjoy both drivers.
Imagine the rocketpoweredmohawk videos we'd get
@@stevenjoseph6048Logic and reasoning? Crazy! You have to be joking!
Lewis at RB would be so chaotic. Finally we'd get another documentary from Floz
I’m quite sure Hamilton’s team reach out to other F1 teams so they can use that fact when operating to renegotiate contracts. IMO, there’s no way Hamilton would actually go to RedBull and RedBull wouldn’t even consider having him unless Verstappen were to do a Rosberg and unexpectedly retire from the sport. Hamilton has an incredible amount of freedom within Mercedes and I suspect he wouldn’t get that range from being at RedBull.
Overall, it’s fun to speculate but this would never happen. If RedBull did decide to have both Max & Lewis as their drivers, it my be entertaining for the fans initially, but over the season this would cause more problems for RedBull, the drivers are too closely matched and I’m sure they’ll have even more crashes and need for team orders - which would not be a good look.
This is the correct take
Exactly
I completely agree. Lewis would never go to another team unless he was guaranteed the 1st driver which he wouldn’t be if Max was still there. People that think Lewis was actually considering jumping ship from Mercedes are blowing this way out of proportion.
Lewis needs that $$$ to fight for equality. And prevent global warming.
The only reason Mercedes is paying Lewis good money is because of competition. Obviously this goes for all drivers on the grid.
If Lewis wouldn’t go to any other team anyways Mercedes could pay him 250k a season, done.
If the management of Lewis didn’t approach other teams when the contract of Lewis runs out Lewis badly needs a new management because those blunders could cost him tens of millions.
Still don’t get why they wouldn’t go back to the Toro Rosso name, it just makes sense
Because it wouldn’t make sense, they’re moving to the UK, keeping an Italian name would be weird
This is the reason I love Horner, he feeds on creating chaos.
Team LH would go into a meltdown if he joined after slagging Red bull off for the last 24 months.
The RedBull shaggers would have their minds blown when Lewis starts beating their Golden boy Max. 😂
@@dianamaioru497The same guy who lost to terrorussell in the same car
@@tmmaborno1259what’s happening this year
@@kzv44 oh i thought Hamilton is a 7 times champion and his fans call him the 'GOAT' so how did he lose to terrorussell at 37 years of age?
@@tmmaborno1259 testing the car for half of the season and Lewis still out qualified him last year and this year he’s 72 points ahead of George.
Fruit on a pizza?
You'll be putting tomatoes on it next!
Guarantee a large majority wouldn’t even know that a tomato is actually a fruit.
When you think about it, Lewis to Red Bull almost happened. Back in 2012 when Lewis was still at McLaren, RB was looking to sign Hamilton to partner Seb but Dimitri(Red Bull owner) said no deal and handed Webber a one-year extension. Hamilton went on to sign with Mercedes. I remember an episode of Top Gear where Clarkson said that the move is is like going from Manchester United to West Ham
Also max to Mercedes almost happened until Red Bull put him in the torro rosso at 17
Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton together at Red Bull is how World War 3 would start. To be honest, I'm lowkey all for it. Who's selling the popcorn and pints? 👀👀👀
Redbull dont want a Diva drama queen 🥴
@@outlawf1272 boooooooo. We want drama!!!
@@CammyTheSportsEntertainer 🤣
@@outlawf1272 you keep copying and pasting the same comment chill kid
@@kenzabel5394 🤣🤣🤣🤙
The main problem for Lewis would be that he likes his cars with a bit more understeer, the RB is really pointy. On the other side, Max would likely struggle to match Lewis in a Mercedes. All things considered, Checo going to Merc would be a stronger challenge to Lewis than Lewis would be to Max in a RB. If Red Bull wants 2 fast drivers in their car, they should consider someone like Charles, he thrives with oversteer.
The Gran Turismo music genuinely adds an extra element to these videos. I love it so much
Hamilton and Verstappen would be drive to survive level drama every race
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tommy using the Daily Mail, a tabloid newspaper as a source of information 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 CLOWN
I love your recent videos. It's like listening to the Gran Turismo soundtrack with having someone talk over it 😆
I would cheer for Lewis if he went for one last WDC glory run with a different team.
Like a other team is waiting for a Diva drama queen
hey did Lewis hurt you?@@outlawf1272
give to someone else, like verstappen. LH's never drove bad cars before. let him be
I mean that's basically what Tom Brady did when he went to the Buccaneers
Its never gonna happen. No team wants him
The OG Grand Turismo sound in the intro 👌
Loved the Frankie to City analogy 💙
Man like Tommo pumping out that content 😍
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Yes I did already do it. Don't hurt me.
2 teams essentially named RB. That got to be Wolff’s worse nightmare
Lewis was just reviewing his options, as he should've been. People are throwing up a fuss for no reason.
No the funny thing is, that LH is lying abt it 😂
The headlines and video creation we had about Lewis and Max in 2021 was👌, now we can only dream about it
I remember learning about this potentially happening back in 2013 when Lewis got fed up with Mclaren and was in talks for a new challenge. What a lineup that would be though, although probably wouldn't generate this much buzz, if 2021 didn't happen the way it did.
Now this would never have any chance of happening but just imagine a world were Hamilton and Verstappen are on the same team for multiple seasons and are constantly battling for titles. This would only ever have a chance of working if Hamilton joined earlier on so there can be multiple seasons of Max vs Lewis with both of them at their peaks. Red Bull would also have to be insanely far ahead of the other teams cause otherwise if there is a close competitor one would simply leave and and attempt to win a championship with them.
All extreniuating circumstances would have to be perfect for this to ever happen but if It would every season would be so hype. Imagine a stretch of like 5 years were Hamilton and Verstappen would go back and forth in winning championships. Shit would be so fire (and toxic lmao).
that only reminds me of 2012 where he was this close to driving for RBR in 2013.
If this is to ever happen either one of them will end their careers after a loss.
Yes I think you hit the nail on the head tommo, I think his contract was up for renewal at merc and his representatives (agents, managers whoever) went out for a chat with the other big teams, even if you're not serious about leaving Mercedes and want a new contract there, you still go out and ask around to see what other teams would be willing to offer, he brings the offer home to merc and maybe can squeeze them for more money
That would basically mean double DNF in turn one every race.
Tommo coming to us with the teaaa
There’s one tv show quote from Spartacus that I’m always reminded of when Salty Spice Horner says something “Words fall from mouth as Sh!t from A$$”
Only to know how much they can ask ask Merc to pay and stuff to have a stronger position in negotiation
Honestly, I do believe that Lewis would go for it. And that's because of his character. He's... always been a massive hypocrite.
A vegan with real leather boots, saving dolphins on a jetski, etc. etc., he talks about the team, how he's so proud, then is the first one to throw them under the bus. Immediately.
So I think he would go for personal glory and ditch the team, any team, if it meant winning 8th and getting one over Schumacher.
Yes you are right, I have already commented down below.
For the chaos alone this would be amazing
When the news broke I instantly thought of what Oscar said in that video! 😅
He's got that wheel knowledge
0:08 +1 point for that Tommo 👏
1:47 worst name that they could came up with
Literally pineapple pizza in my oven right now... Thats too funny.
Piastri reading that situation cold af
Tommo is on form rn
3am est upload is crazy
Personally I think that Toto is at his end and (as so often in these situations) he starts to flail, lose focus and be more irritated/enraged. I feel that's part of the reason the team isn't doing so well as it affects everything including the dynamics within that team. Seems like everyone at mercedes is on edge atm.
I feel like it’s a very hard to believe thing that lewis’ team asked red bull about a seat seriously. His team may have approached them to scare Merc into finishing a deal but lewis has so much more within his partnership with Merc that it feels so unlikely he’d go there
you think so? I honestly think Lewis has seen the writing on the wall about Mercedes, they are not coming back anytime soon, he has experienced that with McLaren already, if he really want his 8th he probably has better possibilities with another team... wasnt there a similar rumor midseason about him moving to Ferrari?
@@quierover4locas There’s been Ferrari and lewis rumours atleast once a year since like 2015. And yeah with his personal sponsors, the fact he joined McLaren when Mercedes had a big stake in the team, went to Mercedes and now has so much externally linked to them like mission 44, Hamilton commission, Monster deal, police and hilfiger. While most would work at Ferrari none would work with if red bull due to conflict of interest with red bull and their partners. To me IF the links were genuine, it was purely a bargaining tool within merc
It’s not unlikely in the least. Lewis would be wearing RB gear tomorrow if he was offered. So would anyone else. There’s nothing to it. These are F1 drivers and the number 1 goal is win races and fight for championships. If given the opportunity to get the best seat on the grid, everyone of them will take it 100% of the time. Especially a driver who is 38 and currently finds himself with a team that’s playing catch up. A team that’s by all counts looking like they’ll continue to play catch up for at least the next year and very likely longer than that.
@@souldry I really don’t think many would take that seat right now. Lando, Charles and maybe Alonso but modt would look elsewhere as they know red bull would prioritise max regardless
Anthony contacted Horner.
A part of me thinks one of the reasons Horner will entertain it just to spite Toto by making Red Bull the team that Hamilton won his 8th title.
Daily mail 💀💀💀💀💀
lewis and max would have been like a michael bay movie
Which will be more crazy and chaotic Tommo? Lewis and Max or Fernando and Max?
I feel like this would be Lewis and Rosberg x 10. Imagine if Lewis lost as well. Max fans wouldnt let him hear the end of it and vice versa.
Yeah why not?! 🤭
😂😂😂😂😂
What could possibly go wrong?! 😅
The source was the Daily Mail- I HIGHLY DOUBT the source. But if something did happen, then it’s natural tbh. It’s common practice too. All drivers will talk to other teams to put pressure on their own team for a better deal. Just look at Norris basically using Red Bull as a way to extract more value from McLaren. Or Verstappen forcing himself into F1 by talking to Red Bull and Mercedes at the same time. I wouldn't look too much into it, it makes perfect sense.
Additionally, the passive phrasing used by Horner in the quotes does not actually state it was Hamilton’s side that reached out. It leaves open the possibility that Red Bull made the inquiry, but is framed to lead to the assumption it was Hamilton who approached Red Bull.
They don’t need a team game cuz rb would be first and second every race.just gotta keep it clean
I think that deal would be bad for everyone. If, and there is a very real possibility if, Max absolutely spanks Lewis, his fans would cause such a stir that it would negatively affect the sport. Bad idea for everyone honestly, in no way does this end well
Zero possibility of Lewis getting spanked. At worst he might be a tenth off in Max's stronger circuits, and he's definitely better in some of his own stronger circuits.
@ihsanjayadi88 In what area is Lewis stronger? Max is superior literally everywhere. Name me one area in racing that Lewis has an edge. That is the problem with trying to beat Max right now. He has 0 weaknesses and is likely not even in his prime yet.
@@Lanse1984exactly. He spends every minute of his life striving to get faster. He’s not about all the extra stuff that Lewis is. Just racing.
@@Lanse1984 "Name me one area in racing that Lewis has an edge".... experience, and like... 7 titles, no biggie
@@Lanse1984Well he nearly beat him in Hungary and US this year in a second a lap slower car….
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lewis lost in a better car in 2021 irrespective of foul play at silverston
Whether or not it's true that Lewis did approach Red Bull and Ferrari, Red Bull overall have dodged a massive bullet by passing on Lewis. It's going to be a 100% chance for fireworks that would immediately go off the moment they come to blows (which I'd bet would happen in Race #1). It would basically torpedo Red Bull's relations with Max if they start picking sides (or maybe even not picking sides causes problems). And Max has basically been their ace since Ricciardo left.
Honestly I won't be surprised if Lewis really did reach out or find other prospects whether to just kick Mercedes to do better and maybe give favorable contract terms or to genuinely find someone else by taking a leap of faith. It's not like this is the first time Lewis makes a then-questionable move. It does say a lot about Mercedes though that their star driver could be potentially upping and leaving from how bad things are now in that team. It likely won't happen (more so looking at it now), but just the potential option being there is probably the warning shot the Mercedes should take note of.
Had Lewis left this year at this critical point of what can be considered as passing of the torch of lead driver from Lewis to George for Mercedes' future, the team probably can't recover to where it was maybe for another 5 years because they now have George who is still learning and another young driver that they have to place in the other seat who will also be learning.
Ive got better luck of selling my bridge in Brooklyn Ny before hell freezes over ,then these two pairing up as teammates
I really wanna see it now…
Imagine the number of Constructors Championship points that would be lost with no quarter being given by each driver. That's assuming Lewis could come in and extract every ounce of performance from the car like Max. 🌶🌶🌶
Most likely just for the LH camp to use as leverage in their dissusion with merc as they also reached out to ferrari.
You leave pineapple on pizza out of this! Great video and points as always though.
This woudl be my Dream to see the at the same team
Lewis is a brand, you’re absolutely right. He’s a business man. This was a “feeler” at most from Lewis’ camp, meant to drive up his next contract with Merc. Maybe Ferrari- and that’s a sharp maybe because of his depth with Merc brands (Monster, etc.)- if the branding made sense and if the platform could deliver a championship w/in this season and/or the next.
I think if it was Leclerc and Ferrari that came strong in the second half of 2022, and Charles beat Max that year, then Lewis to Ferrari could have happened. But with Merc and Ferrari at the same level, and Lewis' rivalry with RB and horner, I think he's staying Merc till he retires.
Lewis in RB gear is uncanny lmao. . . .BRUH 😂😂
I'd love to see Alonso and Verstappen in the Red Bull.
if at all true I feel like it was more of a negotiation tactic on Lewis' teams part, although him making a move to Ferrari made a lot more sense than RedBull.
as fun as it'd be to have them both in the same team, it'd probably shatter the RB organization for the rest of the decade.
He wouldn't keep up to Max
Ok mate
Max would humiliate Hamilton in every race if they were in the same team.
honestly I think it would work in Verstappen’s advantage. Lewis is more emotional, the car’s design is not what Lewis is used to driving. I think Lewis would make a lot of emotional mistakes and gaslight some shizzle. And Verstappen would rise above that. Max statistically learns tracks faster than Hamilton with new setups as well as completely new tracks,, and has more p1 wins not from pole than Hamilton. Lewis really mostly needs to be on pole to win and despite he’s always fighting, he tends to make triggered mistakes when a strategy isn’t really go his way. It would be an interesting first half of the season. I wonder how many DNF’s.
Massive over generalization there, seems like you're new to F1
Not a fan of either of them and Not going to claim to know for sure here but claiming Lewis needs to qualify P1 to win seems WILDDD
Let's start in the simulator. . .
Hot take, I think Max and Lewis will work better in a champion winning team then Lewis and Russel. I feel like Lewis will easier accept adversary form Max Loosing to Russel. I'm sure he would get doubts about his skill is he was genuinely challenged by Russel while being challenged by Max would motivate him more. Loosing to Max is a lot better optic then loosing to Russel (hypothetically speaking, not sure who would win if they were to be in the same team.) Also, I Russel is more the type of driver who would convert to playing Nico style team games.
Merely a bargaining chip in his Merc contract renewals
Red Bull should say fuck it and give it one season that is all just one drama packed season
the money that they could generate from that would be insane
i need ver-ham at redbull it'd be such a spectacle
Lewis and Max as teammates would make Lewis and Fernando as teammates look like a playground squabble! 😂
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Max has said that he doesn´t care who his teammate is or becomes. Because he knows he´s got two tenths on everybody on the grid. He said this after Hamilton made those comments about him having an easy time with Checo. I don´t know if that´s true but i do believe that he believes this. He wouldn´t veto a move from another driver. I think Red Bull would never allow this while Marko is in charge. Marko has always chosen for a clear number 1 and number 2 in the past.
Max's confidence is good, but the numbers speaks for themselves. The raw pace data calculated from same-car-teammates speaks for themselves that they are within 0.069% of each other in Lewis' favor if they're in equal machinery. While this is 2019 data, and Lewis definitely regressed since then as he got older, the difference would be minuscule but might finally tip to Max's favor as Lewis got older.
@ihsanjayadi88 A. I'd love to see the methodology there. Also B. If its 2019 that's moot, since that was very much pre prime Max
Imagine the character of lewis calling Mercedes his family and obviously redbull being the team he hated clearly after what happened in 2021 and certain members of redbull and yet still approaching them EVEN if it was just messing around with negotiations this guy is a clown
The absolute scenes of cultLH on twitter would be wild wonder if they'd still call red bull cheats 💀
Their teams are always talking
The only reason RBR would put an Alonso or Hamilton alongside Max would be if they’re bored of nobody challenging them and want to stir some up lol
i can see christian horner letting them fight it out
How can you say that RB is happy with BOTH of their drivers?😂
Lewis is a humble servant... He is neither.
This 100% a move by lewis' representation to squeeze a little more out of merc.
Red Bull would not make an offer, Mercedes would know Red Bull isn’t interested. So how would that squeeze more out of Merc?
Now I say this as someone who doesn't particularly like either of them, I do wonder whether a big section of the fans of both of them truly are F1 fans or just bandwagon jumpers.
When they start crying about loyalty or about a driver blocking another from joining a team, do they really know how this all works?
For starters, team loyalty really is not a thing in the big scheme of things. Yes Mercedes have given Lewis 6 of his 7 titles, but people have to remember how much McLaren invested in him from a very young age, and that did not stop him leaving. Drivers who stay loyal are not championship material. They go where they think they can achieve the most. When Schumacher left Benetton for Ferrari he knew there was a challenge, but he made the right decision. Benetton went backwards and Ferrari went forwards.
As for blocking other drivers, well that's nothing new either. Prost blocked Senna joining Williams in 1993. Senna had done the same with drivers, as have many others over the years. You can bet your bottom dollar that Hamilton, Alonso & Vettel have all either blocked drivers or at least tried.
Sick
I think it would be a nice battle and maybe to much for f1. It would kill F1 because then the Orange army and Hamilton fans would hate each other even more. And we see that both of them are really dominant and when 2 Dominant Driver clash to each other we saw that 2021 and back then with Prost and Senna. So the Repair bill could be incredible high
My take,
1) it was a slow news week and headline news required to follow into the Media Day
2) Also, why would Horner say this now and not then 🤔, it could be deflection to the "AD21" news that always trends or trending now. 😊
They need a successful year to celebrate 🍾 without much negative fuss, that has plagued the past 2 years unfortunately.
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Tbh lewis' team are just doing their due diligence, im sure all the agents will check all the options even if they are unlikely.
Allegedly
idk man but hamilton is the only multiple wc who fortunately never drives a bad/midfield car. i would respect someone more like senna/schumi/vettel/verstappen. all of them had drove that kind of car. no need to bring him in. he's just THAT fortunate
It would be carnage and I’d love to see that
I hope the FIA and F1 make a new rule that teams can't do the 'safe 2nd driver who has no chance at beating their team mate for a WC'. It really kills the competition and allows the main driver in the best team to win a boring string of WCs. The Schumacher/Hamilton/Vettel/Verstappen dominances must end.
F1 is not about the drivers. It's about the constructors. No way the FIA will be allowed to influence the teams in choosing drivers.
Red Bull don’t want another Prost V Senna or Hamilton v Rosberg from 2016. As it completely makes sense to Drop Dan in the seat if Perez is still terrible next season. Also the name Racing Bulls just sounds like a 4:30pm on a Friday afternoon decision 🤦🏻.
RB would finish bottom of the constructors 😂
When Hamilton was winning title after titel the rumours were reversed; Hamilton veto'd the coming of Max to Mercedes. I doubt either of them really veto'd any of this.