Agree Larry. Don’t care for Hydrostat transmission unless just a lawn mower. All that winning and heat and loss of power, no thanks. Love my shuttle shifts and manual .
Great video Larry. You explained things very well. I watch alot of firewood videos and Crack up everytime I watch them. Those guys picking logs with the hydrostatic drive with the rpm's topped out and the hydraulics moving at the speed of light seeing the frustration is incredible. I always said they invented the hydrostatic drive for city farmers because they had never used a clutch. Your video was very informative for them 👏
Always enjoy your videos Larry got the best dealership videos on CZcams are the tyms as smooth in the shuttle shift maybe you could do a video on those thanks have a great day
I love my 2610 manual I grew up with a stick shift tractor it was a no brainer when I was in market for a new tractor plus I got a deal bc it was a manual
My NX5010 shuttle will be delivered in 2 hours. I like hydros for teaching, but I’m buying a Shuttle to use on my farm. Shuttle has less to go wrong and more power in the end to use. Great Video.
I have a ~40 year old 23 HP Yanmar, geared obviously. And a basically new orange 26 HP tractor with hydrostat. The old girl with filled rears puts way more power to the ground. I can bush hog and drag the box blade in 2wd where the orange tractor won't even in 4wd. I want to jump to the 50-70 HP range with a cab and be comfortable and have a pound of overkill. I liked the tour of the yard/shop, that was fun!
Mike, I love my Shuttle Shift LS. Actually, when were looking at the two versions of this XR4140, the hydrostatic vs. the Shuttle Shift, my wife made the choice for the manual. Something about the hydrostatic she didn't like, and it was a great choice to go manual for all the said reasons of power, cost, simplicity, and add in user preference. Hey, if my wife likes it, she'll drive it! We can get more work done if it's usable for whoever is in the seat.
Lots more power to the wheels for sure. I use mine as fork lift most time so hydro the only way to go for me. If was brush hogging or plowing gear for sure.
This video is extremely helpful! I’m in the process of researching and purchasing my first tractor. I like the idea of a manual shuttle shift. I’ve only looked at a hydrostat, but now I may change my mind. What’s the starting horsepower where the shuttle shift is available? Thanks again for another great video Mike!
Have watched your videos for a while and learned a lot. Was passing Nashville a while back and stopped in. A salesman demo'd the pto on a manual CX2510 and learned it's transmission driven. The specs for a CK2610 manual states LIVE pto. Is this a 2-stage clutch where the pto spins when clutch depressed half way and stops when clutch filled depressed? Would like the next tractor to be a manual with a 3-point snowblower and need it spinning while stopping/changing direction so snow doesn't fall down the chute and clog it. Thank you and truly appreciated your salesman's time. Have a blessed day.
I'm allergic to wasps - so endorse your advice re looking before you leap. Have a 50hp manual Kioti, - brilliant machine. The main advantage, that you didn't mention, is for when you are using ground engaging implements (eg deep ripper), or doing serious pulling of heavy loads, particularly on hills. Then it feels like nearly twice as much usable "grunt" as a similar sized hydrostatic machine
Mike great video as usual 😎, maybe you will get wasp super hero powers 😎😎. I would have gone manual if they offered the NX6010 cab that way in 2020. My next one will be a 7320 or bigger we we come see you in a couple years 😎
I love manual transmission. The only reason I’d try steering someone away is if they’ve ever had issues with there knees. Now can you make a video on NS model open station! I’ve been waiting forever Mike !
Good video and your comparisons for the transmissions that are available. I use a RX 6620 with Shuttle shift. Another way to say what you have explained to you viewers is that the by staying in one range and shifting through the 4 gears that are available has the effect of spliting the range either up or down. I don't care for the hydro stat and the whining sound it makes. And the hydro is more expensive to repair.
I have a DK5510 shuttle and it is a tank! I used a Vermeer Twin rake and a 605G round baler this year in a pinch. Did 100 bales and did it with zero issues. For ground implements its a win over a hydro every time also. Lots of constant RPM use we use it for. If you are doing bucket work its not a tractor for a novice operator or you will be putting a clutch in it. The DK is the smallest tractor we have that we do real work with on the farm and it never fails. Hydro is great for two people...New operators and people doing a ton of bucket work...
thanks for the video, any chance you have a tractor where you can do some front loader work, going into a pile, scooping, backing out with a shuttle? that be great to see what gears you use, when you clutch, does tractor almost stall cause resistance or you clutch b4 then , ....?
Another good use for a manual is any time you're doing work where you will be travelling at a constant speed for a long time. Which is just about any kind of field work, for you hobby farmers. Just put it in gear, set the throttle and go. You don't have to push the hydrostat pedal the whole time. And since just about every tractor tranny is synchronized within the gear shifts, Speeding up and slowing down are not a big deal- such as when baling in a field with heavy and light areas. Plenty of modern manuals also come with a hi/lo option- for just those occasions. That also doubles the number of gears you have to work with. There are manufacturers that do offer a full power shuttle in the 50 hp range. Also, if you jump up a series into a full sized Utility tractor- because you need the extra size and weight, for example- the hydro option vanishes. (lightweight tractor+ hills+ heavy impliment or load = bad case of pucker, lol That load WILL push you around. NOT a good feeling.)
I've been shopping for my first tractor for awhile and I think I will go with Kioti but I want the DK20 series because you lose to much power with hydro and I will be doing alot of loader work. With the shuttle it's not enough difference to go to hydro.
I own a CX2510 with manual transmission. Not too many HST transmissions here in PORTUGAL. I can see how easy it is to work with the loader (which I have, although unlike in the US, it's not a brand combo, so it's from another brand, as it is MUCH cheaper [and even so it's already very expensive]). It takes a little adaptation and much more clutch use but I'll manage. I'm just not sure if my transmission is synchonized, as it "scratches" when I switch gears in movement..
Gauge is on "E". You should have stopped at that fuel tank and put some go juice in that puppy! I try to avoid running diesel powered equipment if below a quarter tank . Keep them well fueled and you'll have fewer headaches. Carry On!
Not sure the NX4510hst will be in my budget, but that is the tractor I want. It seems to have everything I could ever want and more! Great video on showing the NX manual
Thank you Jonathan! The NX Series as a whole, while not inexpensive, is also not outrageously high either. Tractor & Loader have a $4300.00 Factory Rebate, so they are not awful. One way to find out..Mike@LSEtractor.com.
@@jonathanreed4994 Thank you for the opportunity! I just reviewed the quote, and if you don't mind, 'm going to email you directly. I have some thoughts.
I prefer a shuttle shift gear transmission. My local Kioti dealer in Indiana only stocked hydrostat transmision tractors and did not want to order me a shuttle gear tractor, so I left Kioti and went with another brand--Mahindra. I now own 4 Mahindra tractors.
Hey Mike, old video, but I can't stop watching your videos. I wished you had a sales lot in East TN. I got a quote from you on a NX6010 and I really want a RX6620. Just didn't know how the service work from the dealer stand point wood work, four hours away?
I don’t think I’ve met a tractor salesman or employee That wasn’t as pleasant as this guy. Must be something about working at a tractor place that just makes you happy.
@@LSE_TRACTOR Haha…..if I ever retire and grow up I want to work at a tractor dealership. I actually just pulled the lever on a TYM 2515R. Love the metal hood and fenders as I’ve seen videos where they were composite.
I’ve always had a shuttle shift and have recently demo’d two different tractors with hydrostatic drives. I also can make myself to like the hydros. Are the Kioti clutches wet or dry?
I very much prefer manual transmission. I bough my first ever hydrostatic John Deere with loader, you'll like it they said. Well, it so much. The high pitch squall, I don't like. About any manufacturer of any brand are the same. Noisy squawl .
Agree Larry. Don’t care for Hydrostat transmission unless just a lawn mower. All that winning and heat and loss of power, no thanks. Love my shuttle shifts and manual .
Great video and information as usual! Like you I just love changing gears!
Great video Larry. You explained things very well. I watch alot of firewood videos and Crack up everytime I watch them. Those guys picking logs with the hydrostatic drive with the rpm's topped out and the hydraulics moving at the speed of light seeing the frustration is incredible. I always said they invented the hydrostatic drive for city farmers because they had never used a clutch. Your video was very informative for them 👏
Always enjoy your videos Larry got the best dealership videos on CZcams are the tyms as smooth in the shuttle shift maybe you could do a video on those thanks have a great day
I love my 2610 manual I grew up with a stick shift tractor it was a no brainer when I was in market for a new tractor plus I got a deal bc it was a manual
Good video. I gave it a like after all the effort and wasp stings you went through to make it. Hope you feel better. Nice dealership.
My NX5010 shuttle will be delivered in 2 hours. I like hydros for teaching, but I’m buying a Shuttle to use on my farm. Shuttle has less to go wrong and more power in the end to use.
Great Video.
I have a ~40 year old 23 HP Yanmar, geared obviously. And a basically new orange 26 HP tractor with hydrostat. The old girl with filled rears puts way more power to the ground. I can bush hog and drag the box blade in 2wd where the orange tractor won't even in 4wd. I want to jump to the 50-70 HP range with a cab and be comfortable and have a pound of overkill. I liked the tour of the yard/shop, that was fun!
Nice information ty 🏆👴🐕🚜
Mike, I love my Shuttle Shift LS. Actually, when were looking at the two versions of this XR4140, the hydrostatic vs. the Shuttle Shift, my wife made the choice for the manual. Something about the hydrostatic she didn't like, and it was a great choice to go manual for all the said reasons of power, cost, simplicity, and add in user preference. Hey, if my wife likes it, she'll drive it! We can get more work done if it's usable for whoever is in the seat.
Love my CK3510 shuttle shift great size tractor for hunting property chores and around my personal property.
Lots more power to the wheels for sure. I use mine as fork lift most time so hydro the only way to go for me. If was brush hogging or plowing gear for sure.
Making me think now since I own ck30 in hydro.My next will be a shuttle or manual.Want bigger with backhoe!
This video just convinced me that I want a manual transmission! Thank you!
Thank you for the comment Allan. I am a fan myself.
That was really helpfull. I'm smarter now than I was before I saw it.
Love the video. Will you do a video on the lawnmower please.
This video is extremely helpful! I’m in the process of researching and purchasing my first tractor. I like the idea of a manual shuttle shift. I’ve only looked at a hydrostat, but now I may change my mind. What’s the starting horsepower where the shuttle shift is available? Thanks again for another great video Mike!
Have watched your videos for a while and learned a lot. Was passing Nashville a while back and stopped in. A salesman demo'd the pto on a manual CX2510 and learned it's transmission driven.
The specs for a CK2610 manual states LIVE pto. Is this a 2-stage clutch where the pto spins when clutch depressed half way and stops when clutch filled depressed?
Would like the next tractor to be a manual with a 3-point snowblower and need it spinning while stopping/changing direction so snow doesn't fall down the chute and clog it.
Thank you and truly appreciated your salesman's time. Have a blessed day.
I'm allergic to wasps - so endorse your advice re looking before you leap. Have a 50hp manual Kioti, - brilliant machine. The main advantage, that you didn't mention, is for when you are using ground engaging implements (eg deep ripper), or doing serious pulling of heavy loads, particularly on hills. Then it feels like nearly twice as much usable "grunt" as a similar sized hydrostatic machine
Mike great video as usual 😎, maybe you will get wasp super hero powers 😎😎. I would have gone manual if they offered the NX6010 cab that way in 2020. My next one will be a 7320 or bigger we we come see you in a couple years 😎
You should do more videos...I love ur videos you do a great job.....
Thank you Jay! I enjoy the connection with folks that the videos allow for. They just take up so much time!
I love manual transmission. The only reason I’d try steering someone away is if they’ve ever had issues with there knees. Now can you make a video on NS model open station! I’ve been waiting forever Mike !
you should do a quarterly video of your currently pricing for the tractors...
Good video and your comparisons for the transmissions that are available. I use a RX 6620 with Shuttle shift. Another way to say what you have explained to you viewers is that the by staying in one range and shifting through the 4 gears that are available has the effect of spliting the range either up or down. I don't care for the hydro stat and the whining sound it makes. And the hydro is more expensive to repair.
I have a DK5510 shuttle and it is a tank! I used a Vermeer Twin rake and a 605G round baler this year in a pinch. Did 100 bales and did it with zero issues. For ground implements its a win over a hydro every time also. Lots of constant RPM use we use it for. If you are doing bucket work its not a tractor for a novice operator or you will be putting a clutch in it. The DK is the smallest tractor we have that we do real work with on the farm and it never fails. Hydro is great for two people...New operators and people doing a ton of bucket work...
Excellent points Moriver
thanks for the video, any chance you have a tractor where you can do some front loader work, going into a pile, scooping, backing out with a shuttle? that be great to see what gears you use, when you clutch, does tractor almost stall cause resistance or you clutch b4 then , ....?
Another good use for a manual is any time you're doing work where you will be travelling at a constant speed for a long time. Which is just about any kind of field work, for you hobby farmers. Just put it in gear, set the throttle and go. You don't have to push the hydrostat pedal the whole time. And since just about every tractor tranny is synchronized within the gear shifts, Speeding up and slowing down are not a big deal- such as when baling in a field with heavy and light areas. Plenty of modern manuals also come with a hi/lo option- for just those occasions. That also doubles the number of gears you have to work with.
There are manufacturers that do offer a full power shuttle in the 50 hp range. Also, if you jump up a series into a full sized Utility tractor- because you need the extra size and weight, for example- the hydro option vanishes. (lightweight tractor+ hills+ heavy impliment or load = bad case of pucker, lol That load WILL push you around. NOT a good feeling.)
I wish we had you over here in Florida.. I dont care what brand of tractor it is all dealers should have this kind of passion for what they do.
Thank you Tim! Seeing your last name leads me to believe that you are a transplanted Floridian. Not so many Italians native to The Sunshine State.
@@LSE_TRACTOR thats a fact!!! the italian thing would have much more impact though if my parents didnt name me Tim.
“It was funny for everybody that got to see it”, Hahahahahahaha
I've been shopping for my first tractor for awhile and I think I will go with Kioti but I want the DK20 series because you lose to much power with hydro and I will be doing alot of loader work. With the shuttle it's not enough difference to go to hydro.
I own a CX2510 with manual transmission. Not too many HST transmissions here in PORTUGAL. I can see how easy it is to work with the loader (which I have, although unlike in the US, it's not a brand combo, so it's from another brand, as it is MUCH cheaper [and even so it's already very expensive]). It takes a little adaptation and much more clutch use but I'll manage.
I'm just not sure if my transmission is synchonized, as it "scratches" when I switch gears in movement..
Gauge is on "E". You should have stopped at that fuel tank and put some go juice in that puppy! I try to avoid running diesel powered equipment if below a quarter tank . Keep them well fueled and you'll have fewer headaches. Carry On!
HA! You caught me!!!
What size Hyundai excavator was that looks bigger than the 35?
Not sure the NX4510hst will be in my budget, but that is the tractor I want. It seems to have everything I could ever want and more! Great video on showing the NX manual
Thank you Jonathan! The NX Series as a whole, while not inexpensive, is also not outrageously high either. Tractor & Loader have a $4300.00 Factory Rebate, so they are not awful. One way to find out..Mike@LSEtractor.com.
@@LSE_TRACTOR got a quote for one this week actually 😁
@@jonathanreed4994 Thank you for the opportunity! I just reviewed the quote, and if you don't mind, 'm going to email you directly. I have some thoughts.
@@LSE_TRACTOR sounds wonderful. Can't wait to hear from you!
I prefer a shuttle shift gear transmission. My local Kioti dealer in Indiana only stocked hydrostat transmision tractors and did not want to order me a shuttle gear tractor, so I left Kioti and went with another brand--Mahindra. I now own 4 Mahindra tractors.
Love the manual transmission. I hear enough whining in my day to day, I don’t want to hear my tractor whining too.
Hey Mike, old video, but I can't stop watching your videos. I wished you had a sales lot in East TN. I got a quote from you on a NX6010 and I really want a RX6620. Just didn't know how the service work from the dealer stand point wood work, four hours away?
We do it every day, and we have no dissatisfied customers
@@LSE_TRACTOR I will be in touch after vacation is over.
@@johnnyfranklin5213 thank you Sir
The manual sure does sound better, no hydrostatic whine, and I like the fact that you gain a little more power (no such thing as too much power lol).
Like a manual trans. Another benefit is less noise. Hydros constantly make that loud whining noise.
I don’t think I’ve met a tractor salesman or employee
That wasn’t as pleasant as this guy.
Must be something about working at a tractor place that just makes you happy.
Thank you Viking! It’s true. I compare it to selling puppies or model trains. Tractors make people happy.
@@LSE_TRACTOR
Haha…..if I ever retire and grow up I want to work at a tractor dealership.
I actually just pulled the lever on a TYM 2515R.
Love the metal hood and fenders as I’ve seen videos where they were composite.
I’ve always had a shuttle shift and have recently demo’d two different tractors with hydrostatic drives. I also can make myself to like the hydros. Are the Kioti clutches wet or dry?
Wet clutches
I very much prefer manual transmission. I bough my first ever hydrostatic John Deere with loader, you'll like it they said. Well, it so much. The high pitch squall, I don't like. About any manufacturer of any brand are the same. Noisy squawl .
Larry, any 1808 lift type cutters available yet?
No new ones. I traded for a Titan1808 yesterday. It seems in very good condition. $5500.00
How much to ship to Oregon 97630
Do they make that in 60 horse power
Yes indeed