Katie Maloney on Scandoval | Not Skinny But Not Fat
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2023
- Katie Maloney is in studio to discuss all things Scandoval! Katie opens up about the divorce - did Schwartz try to fight for her? Where does she stand with him now? Are her and Scheana all made up? And does she really think Raquel is in a mental health facility? You don't want to miss this one!
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You can see Katie’s confidence radiating off her. She has this calm, quiet strength and I’m living for it.
YES
MVP of the season
So true! I have been mesmerized with her recently and I’m like what is it? It’s definitely the confidence, it almost makes her look more youthful after losing a 200 lbs dead weight she’s been carrying for 12 years. Also I’m digging her 90’s chic she’s been rocking lately.
I agree and it’s about time. I am so happy she got rid of that man child. She needs a real man, not Sandovals bitch!
She fckd another guy while married to Tom so they divorced. Now she wants to judge Schwartz? Jesus the hypocrisy women have is mind numbing. And NOBODY is saying anything about it
I feel Katie has always been misunderstood because of the toms
Agree 💯
Oh plz shes a big bully.
And mean as hell.but mommy will come to her rescue,cuz it's the right thing to do.
And the early season Witches of Weho influence (which is mostly just age and inexperience possibly)
I’m living for and loving this new era/ chapter for Katie. She is radiating. You can see how much lighter she feels after shedding the approx 185 lbs of extra weight that was dragging her down (aka Tom) 😂
Yes, she can live her life and not worry about cringy Tom…
I ADORE KATIE. THIS is the type of celebrity role model I want my daughter to look up to. Katie is kind, determined, authentic, steadfast in her beliefs and is loyal to those close to her. I’m excited for the amazing things ahead for Katie
Yes Katie you go girl ❤😊
A control freak no thanks poor kid what a role model
Katie is so beautiful and eloquent! So happy she has been vindicated!
She married Schwartz, they are divorced and now she's throwing him under the bus. This is prove she was desperate to be married! Poor Schwartz. If this makes him beater, Katie was the least favorite least member. Katie is mean and a bully. Can't stand her voice! Way to call it Schwartz.
@@yolandavasquez6530 Wow, you are invested.
@@vanessad.2625 I call it like I see it.
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Divorce is sad no matter who’s involved. But I agree if it’s not for the show, maybe she was bullied when she was younger, considering it was her idea for them to get involved to begin with through Scheana. If anyone’s vindicated it’s JAX for taking all the villain heat when he was on the show and Sandoval taking none.
Proverbs 9:10
It’s great seeing her thrive now she has cut the deadweight which to my mind is pretty much all Tom was..
I've always been a fan of Katie's. Classy act. She has been a punching bag by many.
Me too. She doesn’t take crap from people no matter what
always, i've never understood the hate against her.
shes the scapegoat for a bunch of toxiccccc ass people. the more she matures and gains self confidence respect and self love she will put stronger boundaries with those people and possibly even distance and find people that actually are healthy and respect her and then boom we have a great strong woman who deserved better all along and no one being able to project on her anymore!
@@maceysvibes333 Your spot on. Being married to Tom would be like babysitting a little kid. Plus the bully Scandovol was always spouting negative things in his ears and acting like he is above her. When in fact he doesn't hold a candle to her. Rock on Katie.
She has been bitchy, but perhaps for good reason. All Ken are immature
Yes! More female empowerment in the next seasons! I can't wait to see the masterclass in business from Katie and Ariana to contrast the Tom's.
Right! Katie and Ariana surpassed Tom & Tom - in many ways! I can’t wait to visit their shop!
I do hope they stop using the word whore to put down another woman...
Dude yes I been saying Raquel’s a sociopath! The way she looks vacant, the way she instigates, I bet you this relationship affair won’t even pan out cause sociopaths get bored hence their destruction. Sandy is nothing to her, just like everyone else. I love James so much more now.
James is #1 guy in the group now!!!
Katie is finally being recognized for being SO awesome. I love it and I'm happy to see HER happy. There is someone out there that will treat her like she deserves but she's also thriving on her own.
Katie after Swartz is a WHOLE different Katie. I like her better now. I root for her and hope for the very best for her.
I think Katie is the epitome of class. I like how she thinks before she answers
class? lol
@@fulltimeleoyea, I agree. For the comment above: What are you talking about class? Did you watch this last season or specifically the Vegas trip? Keep in mind she was banging other dudes while still living with Schwartz WAAAY before the divorce news went public. She's always belittled him and demeaned him. I just don't see class in that. If we had no idea about SCANDAVOL, we would be saying Raquel got bullied this season. Katie was sooooo mean girl to her. Her friendship with Lala is LAUGHABLE. have you watched this series? She bullied TF out of Lala for years, calling her a whore and etc. I LOVE and adore Ariana, but Sandoval has been trying to fix their relationship for YEARS. Seasons ago he was discussing how they are intimate maybe 3 or 4x a year, but Ariana was quick to jump in back seat to hook up with Lala. C'mon now.
@@ashleymcmeakin8590 are you kidding? Schwartz does a good job on his own belittling himself, the guy is a dope! Watching his hideous behaviour in early episodes has left me disgusted especially the night he threw a drink in Katie’s face, that’s physical abuse! She is a class above him, my opinion!
Is that a joke?
Schwartz has low self esteem. He always needs someone praising him.
I love that you are bringing Tom's horrible ways to light. Schwartz never supported Katie she must have felt small in that relationship. 10 seasons of Schwartz abuse, and no one said anything. I saw it, I commend Katie for finally finding the balls to get out.
This is so true. Tom always tried to make Katie look like a ugly humanbeing. Both Tom's always do this.
I think many of us saw it but I also think it's easier to see when you're on the outside. Both Toms are overgrown boys.
I saw katie abusing Schwartz...
You saw what the producers wanted you to see. You saw Katie fighting for her own value, You saw Katie 10 years ago drinking to much , doing young and dumb things. What you have been missing is how much she was asking her husband for him to stand up for her, to stand beside her in their marriage, to come home and be her husband instead of being Tom Sandovals flunky, drugand drinking buddy.
@@lauriebraun1328 So why bother watching?
I'm finally, after 10 seasons, starting to warm up to Katie and really understand her more. The show really put her in a negative light, I feel. I hate that they rarely ever showed us (as in me lol), what an actual great person she was! In all honesty, I fkn hated her probs bc I'm a Scheana fan. Never thought I'd see the day, but here we are! Starting to love on you Katie!
Love this!! Katie has matured and changed. Let's not forget she and Stassi were encouraged to be "mean" to the others and Scheana played the under dog really well. Scheana hasn't grown much but FINALLY showed up against Tom. I'm hoping Scheana continues to grow up and understand not everyone is her "BFF" and that's OK.
She's also evolved a lot over the years (while others haven't)
This thing has blown up for 2 big reasons: It's not just cheating, it's how bad the narcissism and diabolically sociopathic it all is and how badly Sandoval gaslights everyone and deflects, and how he's actually been doing this for the WHOLE SHOW and we're all now just seeing it. This is triggering for so many people who have people like Sandoval in our lives, people suffering with people like him in our lives.
I think the draw to this is that the best thing about Sandoval was Ariana and the only thing about Ariana that everyone didn't love was Sandoval. Unlike her and Raquel the audience wasn't ever enamored by him. Katie is a great representation of someone who has good morals and does love herself. I'm very proud of how far she has come. Both these women have unburdened themselves of dead weight and everyone is wanting them to soar at the new Shop. As much as Katie put thought into naming the place and it will be successful is the alter of Schwartz and Sandys. Hey we all hated the name and now we can't stand them. They are doomed and they did it to themselves. All laughing and kidding aside. Who's laughing now boys?😅
I think the draw is how seedy and gross it is to be sneaking around like they were and smiling in everyone's faces. It's so obvious part of this was that Tom got off on all that and having the two women together cheering for him. It's so disgusting.
A thought for your thesis… One of the reasons this is blown up to be so big is there is a group of us out there who have been married or dating someone like this and that person did the same thing that Tom and Raquel did Ariana.
So for people like me and others it’s validating or should I say, eye-opening to watch this from a third-party’s perspective, how spouses and friends can lie to your face, but saying something completely different behind your back.
There’s a shame when you are cheated on because society labels you as it’s your fault because if someone’s happy in a relationship, they don’t cheat. Clearly, there are others who cheat because they are broken people who need to be validated by others.
And I feel like now people can see there are some that behave this way, and we literally see the deception play out on the show and Sandoval’s perception of how things went down during his interview with Howie Mandel.
Those are just my two cents.
Great point. Especially about how society views cheating in a relationship
I agree, this is spot on analysis. I'd also add that viewers are invested in these ladies and feel for how much they were hurt.
Side note, I'm so proud of Katie and her strength this season. She deserves better than Schwartz
I was cheated on and watching this unfold triggered some feelings one which I have recently identified is shame. I felt shame because I felt like the village idiot. His whole family knew about the other woman and would smile lovingly to my face.
agree, i have felt triggered, takes me back to my own heartache, i found out men don't actually like women, they hate us, church tells them to hate us, they have zero emparthy for our reality
very good comment. I'm so sorry you have experienced something like this in your personal life. Can I ask how they were finally exposed? Did it break the entire group apart? Also did either of the cheaters confide in another member of your circle who basically continued to help hide the secret and further betray your friends?
Everybody talks about Rachel’s mental health, but what about Sandoval? They’re both sociopaths.
Jax likes to say he was labeled the villan on the show, but low key editing made Katie the villan and it was utter crap. We all see how he is and was to you, and it's good to see you happy.
HUGE LOVE FOR KATIE ❤❤❤
Katie handled it the way Sandoval should have once she realized her relationship wasn't making her happy anymore.
Everyone who doesn't understand the agreement Katie had with Schwartz is acting like they are not in a very precarious situation where they both have to still work with eachother after the divorce. On a show. Most people get to go their separate ways after a breakup they didn't have that luxury. The show is their bread and butter. It makes total sense setting some ground rules.
Whether they're married or not it's really sad Schwartz can defend and support Sandoval and his toxic decisions but never did that for Katie. Crazy.
I think Raquel left James for Tom but Tom wasn't ready to leave Ariana yet and that's why she kept breaking down. She cried during the date with Peter. She had a panic attack in the car with the girls...I definitely think Raquel was using Schwartz at first to make Sandoval jealous and that's what ultimately worked. At that point I guess it was worth the risk for him but i dont think he actually wanted something long term with her either tbh. Just thinking with his dick. Of course now he says otherwise and has to pretend for Raquel that hes "in love". Who else does he have? Them not being able to kiss on camera was really awkward and telling. They liked the raunchy secretive trysts better than theyll like being bf and gf or playing house. Especially now. Fun's over
This commment 🤌💯👏🏻🙌
Probably the best take on the whole thing ever!!!! lol
I love Katie. She just looks so much happier, she's always so poised. I hope she finds a partner that will be her bestfriend, support her & always stand up for her.
She cheated on tom. Hypocritical af
Poised and katie maloney in the same sentence...NOT🤑
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EXACTLY
Yes. When I say her on wwhl with the stockings and vintage shoes 😮😍 stunning
@@youtuber6185no she didn't. If she had when Andy called them all out both toms would've called her out. 😂😂😂
I like Katie so much more now .. she looks so much happier
Katie had every right to discuss not hooking up within the friend group because that is ridiculous! Like Tom can't find someone outside of it? Give me a break!
No need for Rachett he was living with Jo double dates with Tommy and Rachett...
Especially when it was a mutual agreement.
he had an easier time finding non-friend group ppl to make out with while he was frickin MARRIED to her lmfao
I can’t stand the way sandoval yells at women! Gross
He would never have that energy for someone like Brock. He's an abuser of women.
Not just yells but also whines
Katie Bravo OG Queen status achieved. ❤ Her life arc is very inspirational. She can be a mean girl at times but she’s always been one of the smartest on the cast. She’s a survivor for sure. In so many ways. Can’t wait to see her next chapter!
I've never been a Tom and Tom fan. I couldn't stand to see Sandoval go after Katie and Schwartz never stand up for her. He always took Sandoval's side no matter how wrong he was. Katie is fabulous. Always loved her. Can't wait to see who she is without Tom dragging her down.
Scheana is probably glad that she wasn't at the original finale because she probably would have made a complete fool of herself defending Raquel to Katie and her mom. Just like Sandoval did.
I am happy to see these women knowing there worth and not accepting less. Great example and sets a precedent that disloyalty is not negotiable!
Katie is soooo gorgeous, she’s always been but she’s been looking incredible lately
Katie has a very natural beauty and I love her voice. I'm glad she realized the importance of SELF before she wasted any more time. She's going to be just fine, I have no doubt.
I actually understand why Schwartz didn’t go to Ariana, it’s not his place. It’s really bad situation, and I don’t think the messenger always survives. That said, not only should have kept telling Sandoval to break up with Ariana, he could have told him I’m not going to go on a double date with you and Rachel. We are not gonna spend time with Rachel together. I’m not going to spend time with Rachel until you break up with Ariana. Because he went on trips with Rachel and his girlfriend, Jo knowing that Ariana was still Tom’s girlfriend, and I don’t care about the Excuse, “he told me they weren’t having sex” or “he wasn’t happy”, you knew that you had to keep your mouth shut because she was still his girlfriend. He was complicit, and worse yet an active participant in affair.
Quite frankly, I always want to like Schwartz, but it is this kind of behavior & then him and the other Tom are the biggest Gaslighter’s I’ve ever seen. They can never just say they were wrong, and Schwartz’s WWHL interview instead of taking any accountability for the way he treated his wife he blamed how she was earlier in the relationship, saying that he had to treat her this way now, because she was so much of a “monster” back then. Then why the hell did you marry her? That’s the problem with Schwartz, right there!
Tom didn't validate her... That was clear. He also didn't have her back 99% of the times they were shown on the show. She will find true love... probably without even looking for it. I'm glad she found her strength to step out on her own. She's a beautiful soul. I do hope she and Scheana are able to become closer friends as Scheana can be a ride or die friend.
My favourite part of this heartbreaking situation is seeing all the single VPR women thriving in interviews.
You get so much more of a vibe as to how intelligent and classy they are compared to the edits on the show that are more drama focused.
Rachel was living in a fantasy world where once the affair was exposed, she and Tom could be together publicly and live happily ever after
I'm a dog lover but your comment was hilarious "when are they gonna die?" I had to snicker at that despite how horrific it was for Katie to hear lol.... Mad props to Katie Maloney btw. She is so strong and her intolerance for the bullshit she was put through was super admirable
Katie is all class hope she finds a great man who deserves her❤
I wish the interviewer could complete a sentence and stop interrupting Katie. This could have been so much better.
The voice sounds the host is making between words is disturbing my sensory issues. Love Katie
I just re watched the episodes and I think Katie, that the affair goes back to when the restaurant was under construction. I truly believe Tom attacked you relentlessly to not come work at the restaurant. I think he didnt want you there to see what he was up too. In episode 9 season 9 Sandy walks into a party and Rachel calls him Daddy. And then laughs it off. Who calls someone else's man Daddy if your not sleeping with him.
I noticed that in season 10 too! She called Brock Daddy at the dinner where she had to say that she couldn’t say no to James proposal because it made her wet, because of a bet she made with Lala.
I’ve always said that Katie has the most beautiful gorgeous face in VPR. Very Hollywood starlet ❤ I’m so so so happy that she’s thriving 🙌🏻
27:22 the fact that they’re filming and they’re still hiding it and we go in to the reunion with new info is also what made it blow up. Im constantly rewatching for Easter eggs meow
I love to see Katie's growth. If it weren't for all this Sandoval mess, there'd be more conversation about how katie was treated this season. I lost all respect for scheana I don't have an Oz of respect or likeability for her. The way she pushed Rachel on top of Schwartz was honestly despicable & shameful. Had the situation been reversed, scheana would of crawled under a rock & been lost in depression. & her excuse would be, "we have a BABY!" She's just a shitty person. & then the nerve to be shocked & pissed at lala for not ditching her in a time where the world was celebrating her downfall. I'm so disgusted with scheanas behavior. I couldn't deal with her crying to Ariana about HER take on Sandoval & Rachel. She's such a self centered & out of touch person. Let's be real, NOBODY but lala, had katies back while this went down. & the only 1 on the outside with sense was Charlie when she told Rachel that was distasteful. Whether u like Katie or not.. u 2 have been on this show together for a decade. You've been a close part of each other's lives for so many milestones. That fact alone should have warranted some respect but it goes to show her value in friendships. Lastly, I would not be surprised if Rachel & Brock hooked up. I somehow have a feeling scheana will reap what she sowed
You are soooo spot on. I thought I was the only one who thought how mean spirited Scheana has been. Always trying to get Ratchet to make out with Tom. He has no spine. He's 40 years old for crying out loud. When LA LA put her fingers up to her mouth and went off on baby Tom I was laughing so hard. Perfect! Grow a spine.
@@geribentley ITA, Scheana has been a mean heartless bitch to Katie all season, even claiming to be "Team Tom" - when Katie and Tom agreed NOT to make teams and to preserve their friend group, and undoubtedly to preserve BOTH of their positions on the show. Then nasty shit-stirring little troll Scheana comes along and pushed Rachet on Wartz over and over again - even after Katie told her CLEARLY that it was hurtful and disrespectful! But when Katie called Scheana a "little troll" I think Scheana went on a revenge tour for the rest of the season. It's really disgusting because it's Katie's livelihood! She's getting a divorce and needs this job.
ITA about Scheana. She was such a royal bitch to Katie - while she was in the middle of getting divorced!
Rachel was very flirtatious with Brock and him with her something could have happen between them or was going to happen eventually Sheana is his meal ticket and he didn't want to mess this up for himself imo he had feelings for Raquel and not like a little sister feeling
Very well said about Scheana. Very despicable what she did to Katie. She really rejoiced at Schwartz/Raquel kiss not for them because she knew how much it would irk Katie.
Lala was such a solid friend to Katie. In Mexico and during the Sandwich celebration/Lisa's birthday party thing when Katie was at her lowest point having to deal with Raquel coming up to talk to her in front of her Mom. Lala went after Katie and made sure she does not talk to Schwartz/Raquel more. Love Lala and Katie's friendship.
Easy for Katie to set that particular boundary. There’s not a guy in the group she’s attracted to, or would ever entertain hooking up with. Can’t say I can blame her for that one.
That being said, I have a business tip for her & A to pass along.
Get a refrigerated vending machine for outside the sandwich shop. Fill it with fresh sandwiches, & juice drinks, etc, prior to closing at night. When the bar crowd lets out, they can pop over for a “midnight snack”, & they don’t have to have an employee present to sell stuff. Making $ while home sleeping!
omg genius!!! I love this idea. I was drooling over those sandwiches on the episode before the finale... I would totally scarf those down after a night of drinks and bar hopping in that neighborhood
That’s a brilliant idea!
I am so in awe of her beauty like it’s really just striking. She is in such a good place ily katie
Watching VPR for all these years, I think KAtie and Schwartz could have lived happily ever after if it weren't for SLIME-DAVOL always whispering in Schwartz ear about Katie. Like when SLIMEDAVOL kept trying to get Schwartz to call off the wedding w/ Katie or not propose at all. It's sad b/c Schwartz never grew up and instead became Slimedavol's bitch.
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Exactly
I like that name…Slimedolval! You are so right. Swartz sadly put anybody and everybody before Katie. Swartz lost a good woman!
Satchel Paige was the greatest baseball pitcher of all time. Perhaps he was named after him.
He was!
Katie has always been my fav and she looks amazing
Loved that Katie went to Mexico! I would have done the same thing. :P
I also love how Lala was so supportive to Katie during the entire Mexico thing. And also, how supportive Lala was to Katie during the
Lisa's birthday thing after the sandwich party. Love how the Lala/Katie's friendship have evolved from the very beginning. They are solid!
Katie looks so good.
Love you Katie Maloney! You are REAL and BEAUTIFUL!
SMARTESS THING KATIE DID WAS GET A PRENUPT.
Katie looks and sounds so much happier and even though I was extremely sad when I heard about it, I’m really glad that her marriage to Tom ended before all of this drama.
I loved this convo UNTIL the dog dieing stmt. Girl that's enough to get people to stop listening in my opinion and I've love you for a looonnnnng time. It puts you in the same space as rachel to a lesbian dog mom that puts all her motherly instinct in my dog or people that are dog moms that can't have kids or just dog people...
I think the drastic personality changes seen in both Toms and in Rachel may have been due to excessive drug use, whether it be alcohol, mushrooms, Adderall, or something else. Not that I'm judging, but they all seemed to be out of it on a certain level.
Yeah, something is not right with those three. Plus the bars/money have gone to the Tom’s head. They are obnoxious.
Rat-Chel looked off her face most of the season, either drunk or drugs but she had the slurs on many a time, or maybe she’s just dumb?
If you look at scene in Rachel’s apartment there’s a bag on the counter .
And an interesting date @ 40 is doing shrooms?
Grow up worm man.
Feelings should not dictate your behavior as an adult. Reason, respect and morals should direct your behavior. Both Toms are overgrown ,over reacting
adolescents.
@@laurie2682this is REACHING. No addict is leaving their stash out for people to find. I promise…
Katie has always been the classiest and more intelligent one !
Was this episode tape before the finale, because Arianna made it clear to Schwartz how she felt about him and he was no longer her friend, also Ariana answered a lot of the questions being asked on the show on watch what happens live with Andy Cohen .
I’m still loving the episode, though, because Katie looks radiant and I am a big Katie Maloney fan . 🌷
Katie looks fantastic! She’s beaming with confidence and has come a million miles since season 1. I’m so happy for her and her growth and complete transformation as a person. I really enjoyed her journey from standing up to stassi, then taking complete control of her life and doing what’s best for her. ❤
I really wish we could have more of a conversation highlighting Schwartz's mistreatment of Katie in the season and at the reunion. I think it is really important to hear it broken down.
Yes we got the video version I love seeing the interviews and not just listening it’s easier for me to focus on it when I can see it
Katie getting lowkey pissed about thinking about her dogs dying was so funny
Katie can be difficult and she is smart and overflowing with sense too, not that common.
Katie went to Mexico probably because she was getting paid per scene/event. When she didn't invite Schena to the girl's trip who is also probably getting paid per scene/event, is when Shena disinvited her to the trip. Listen to what Katie was said, she said Schena said just come to Mexico you don't have to attend the wedding. Katie didn't invite Schena to Las Vegas which affected her pay rate. When Katie did that, that's when Schena didn't want her to show up to Mexico at all. Katie insisted and went anyway. Schena got Rachel to tell Katies don't show up anywhere around where they were filming... ie so she doesn't get paid.
Lala supported Katie because she didn't want to be around Rachel and Sandoval. Katie needs to own the fact that she can be a bitch and deserves what went down in Mexico. She definitely regretted going to Mexico. If it wasn't for Scandoval taking place everyone would have remembered how ridiculous she looked.
Ally never translated what Katie said. She told James exactly what Katie said and James translated it for her and told her that’s what it meant lol
Yes, It was James 🙃
All of the girls are like *WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS GO AWAY ANY TIME SOON* rachel! Hence podcasts 👏👏👏👏👏
Katie looks more beautiful than ever! It’s amazing how toxic people/relationships, slowly snuff out the life and vibrancy from you. She is obviously in a better place than she has, possibly, ever been in. Learning your value and gaining strength from that knowledge, leads to a whole new you! 🎉
Dog comment was cold why would she say this to Katie/ wow ! Rude rude rude
I love this Katie❤
You deserve a committed man or whatever works.
Strong & independent 💪 👏 👌 🙌 👍 🎉
I’m glad people are finally recognizing that Katie is so awesome!
Katie was shaking at one point in the middle of the episode talking about Rachel and Shwartz... I really admire how she acted throughout this. Kudos to her❤
So pleased to see her finally vindicated.
Katie is the epitome of class and I love to see her shine ❤
Annnnd ewe ewe how Rachel and BOTH are being 🤮
Good for you Katie, you look fabulous and I am so glad you are not wasting your life on Schwartz anymore.
I don't listen to this podcast often so forgive me but is the host high or is that just how she sounds lol
Katie needs to get "hazard pay" for having to put up with some of these interviewers!
It was James that said it. Ally told James about what she said to One of the girls and James said it must mean they have an open relationship. James started it watch the clip again.
Tom has so much growing up to do and to be his own person. Katie can be super hard on him, but he needs to make a decision and stick to something, not be all over the place to avoid confrontation.
Katie you did the right thing he was never going to choose you. I was in a marriage like that for 17 years. Now I'm in one who chooses me everyday. It's going on 18 years. I totally got why you split it wasn't even a question for me.
Its funny me and Katie are both Capricorns and her take on things are they exactly I've been seeing them this whole time, also I came up with a theory I think Sandoval didn't like Katie that much because he didn't know how much she knew about him through Schwartz being that was her husband, 2 he couldn't tell Schwartz everything he wanted to about his dirt because he was scared for shwratz to tell Katie
YES!! Never thought of that! 👍🏻
Yeah he knew he couldn’t manipulate Katie the way he manipulated Schwartz. Schwartz gives in to Sando instantly, and Katie will stand her ground.
Sando can’t take any scrutiny, so he lashes out and attacks her to deflect.
Yep I also just watch the first season where Katie got drunk and Spilled the rumor about Jax and Kristen, then they said Katie didn't even feel bad she texted Tom in the morning saying "and I know about you and Ariana too" this is back at the first season so he's been had a secret fear and heat for her and everything she knows
Also the toms were making jokes about the affair blatantly in Ariana face
Cappy club 🎉
You handled yourself so well after getting hit in every area! So proud of you! Stay strong! A big fan. James was the one who twisted that story about the relationship being open.
@14:29 Scheana was so wrong for airing out katies business to Schwartz she can do that but then goes on to say that talking about the “open relationship” rumor was disrespectful for katie to do. That giving details about Tom & Ariana is so wrong (and also didn’t even know verbatim that’s what katie said likes to give her own little spin). Of course scheana can do it and it’s okay. Double standard when it comes to scheana
As a psychotic dog love I have to admit the chat abt the dogs ages had me fckn rolling.
Katie is in such a better place, she looks fabulous and confident and so beautiful!
i think the reason they supported schwartz more during the divorce is because he did not want or ask for a divorce
- Katie asked for a divorce- essentially left Tom!!
no one really rallies around the person who left the other!
Orr because they all drank the toms Kool aid and scheana ks a vindictive biatch
Katie is looking amazing!
Katie looked STUN.NING at the reunion!
I think Katie is a loyal friend, a ride or die. Sheana, in my opinion, thrives on drama and needs everyone in her circle to feel good.
Katie you are awesome!
Katie looks so radiant and flawless! Just beautiful 😍
Does anyone recall Katie being the original mean girl? She used to be awful to certain people and really miserable. I hope she’s feeling better about herself now.
Katie, you have always been my girl you have always been the one that try to think through the situation’s and your words through the conflict with the group and I think it’s so nice to see you open up and be vulnerable. Continue to do that and allow the group of viewers that have grown with you guys that are all aged in together with y’all marriage kids now all of that allow those emotions to make you better and allow them to be a bonding experience for us the viewer because even here in this interview when you’re talking about the closing of the house, I see you pushing it down and not allowing it to release and you deserve the release. You look beautiful 🤩
She's never had so much attention! still a mean girl and always will be.
When I first heard that Tom and Katie were getting a divorce it broke my heart because I loved them together. But having your husband always stand up for his friend and his friend's point of view would make a marriage impossible. Swartz needs to grow up. Im sorry he never supported you Katie.
Same but going back and watching all the seasons, even in the beginning when Katie was kind of unbearable, it all stemmed from Schwartz… the only thing I didn’t agree with for Katie is when they were in Cabo and she got mad at him for giving scheana a shot to make her feel included, which lead to him pouring the drink on Katie, which was terrible! But the reason for the fight was because Katie was mad he bought scheana a shot, that was just petty, it really wasn’t that big of a deal it wasn’t a flirty thing, he just wanted her to feel included .. but that being said what he did pouring that drink on her was terrible, and I think a lot of her anger and insecurity and meanness stemmed from him!!!!!
I never liked Sandoval. He always acted as if he was better than everyone. He was so good at pointing out how he was so morally superior and his generosity to me was so calculated. Look how great I am paying for things. I feel he was generous to make others feel indebted to him. Truly he had a lot to do with Swarts and Katie’s relationship. He was always coming afterKatie always terribly nasty to her. He knew how to push her buttons when she did pop off he turned around and pointed out to Swartz. Look how terrible your wife is Swartz better grow brain cell because definitely sandyballs is not his friend never was.
KATIE LOOKS SO FREAKIN GOOD! Schwartz is going to have some serious regrets, he will never find another woman this dope. He put all his eggs in Sandy's basket. Big mistake, Huge!
Good job and good luck on CZcams!! Following!
Our little rescue dog lived to 19 & 1/2 ... 😅 Katie and Tom are good Dogo parents ❤ 🐾
The Rachel and Schwartz thing, I always thought it was to upset Sandoval. And I’m also conflicted about Schwartz. I don’t know what I’d do if I was in his position. Katie is right about why it’s such a big deal, too. It’s all the lies and conniving of these two sickos that’s just so mind blowing. And more keeps coming out. They’re actually mental. And definitely makes sense now why Jax didn’t take any of the “nice” things Sandoval did for him at his wedding didn’t register. I was confused by it at the time but I see now that he just knew nothing Sandoval did was genuine or for others.
Oh yeah Sheena is definitely on my radar from now on and I’m sorry to say it but I don’t know how much I could really trust her if I was you because that’s how she usually operates by sharing information and then then acting all surprised that you didn’t want her to share it. Obviously you were being respectful and when she was trying to help Tom fix up his apartment and everything and help him dress differently. I was like girl you need to take care of your own house.
Katie’s pain is so apparent 😢 I’m so glad she’s in such a good place.
Katie's glow is amazing. This is my first time watching this channel and um....