Lord Balfour defaced: 'Cambridge has been fanning the flames'
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- Charles Moore, former editor of the Spectator writes for the magazine this week about why he wasn't surprised that an activist at defaced a portrait of Lord Balfour Trinity College Cambridge and what violent protests like this
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Speaking as an insider, Cambridge is fully captured by woke ideology. For politics and the social sciences, all that is taught is pro-immigration, pro-CRT, pro-postcolonialism, pro-trans etc; any attempt to engage critically and honestly with these topics is shut down and will likely result in failure. Students very rarely contest it because they don't want either to be ostracised or to risk receiving a third-class degree because they failed to toe the party line. It's unreal. It's not an education; it's indoctrination.
Fancy leaving a University with no skills, no honed talents, but just a qualification in destruction, regression and sick minds. Totally tragic!
Thank you sir for the revelation !
The hounds are gathering,
Who’s going to turn the tide???
Herbert Marcuse's agenda fullfilled.
This chills me to the core.
Very sad. I thought the Woke movement was only present in America but it turns out it is just like Covid-19 and has infected much of the Civilized World. Unfortunately, there is no shot you can take to be cured of the disease of Woke-vid-19.....
The arrogance of the self-righteous knows no bounds. Their confidence rooted in ignorance.
Be fair, Balfour was a product of an age when the Brits thought god had put them in charge of the world.
@@julianshepherd2038ironically you wrote that in English
@@ChrisMurray-iw9ij - A rose by any other name: Savai-dharamī dē hakāra dī kō'ī hada nahīṁ hudī.
@@johnsmith1474 nah sorry if you only spoke gobble like you write there we wouldn't understand you, you're benefiting from us having taught you how to communicate
Yes she is an aappalling journalist
They don't know who vandalised the painting. I don't believe that. The evidence hasn't been submitted or followed up properly.
I thought Huda Ammori did it. If it wasn't her she knows who did. She is behind Palestine Action.
you mean they do know, the police just cant be bothered. It was captured on camera and it is alleged that the perpetrator political persuasions are known. It will be the same as the criminal damage done to the statues and monuments, no one will be prosecuted as they will call it "free speech" and the right to protest, despite it being nothing other than criminal damage. .
Why haven’t we heard of arrests and charges, it’s in full view . Two tiered justice once again .
will the barbarian be prosecuted that vandalised the picture... probably not
And that very act of DOING NOTHING
will lead to the downfall 😥
This is the woke form of burning books, oh how Mao!
But ING books is a problem when you try to destroy all the copies. An individual book or painting, which will be repaired, is not the same.
Don't be a drama lama Kara
Well, it is a tradition older than Mao and closer geographically than China.
“As for the books you mention, if there is in it what complies with the Book of God [Q’uran], then it is already there and is not needed and if what is in these books contradict the Book of God there is no need for it. And you can then proceed in destroying them.”
-- Caliph Umar ibn al-Khaṭṭāb
Advice regarding the Alexandria's library.
@dmitrykazakov2829 That is not a book of God.
Vandalism happens, it's not all chairman maos fault you know. Some ppl are just destructive. Look at disaster capitalism as a example..
interesting comparison with the koran scuffing a few years back.
The portrait was "damaged"? It looked more like "destroyed".
According to one online source, the painting had an open market value of over a quarter of a million pounds. Given the extensiveness of the vandalism, it would be a miracle if a professional restorer could restore it to a semblance of its former self. Surprising as well that, given the heady atmosphere, Trinity seemed impervious about protecting the painting with plexiglass.
Hasn't that girl been identified and arrested?
Whatever my own feelings about Lord Balfour, the violence and fanaticism of this act sickened me. Im worried that what starts with artwork ends in attacks on people. It needs to be stopped now.
We’ve been saying this too long
We need leaders who are brave enough to grasp the nettle and give this country some self respect again.
@@denniskelly656 You've got Pieface Farage - doesn't he do the job?
It's interesting how Isis, taliban and the nazis etc destroyed artifacts and art works they didn't like... following an ideology can lead you down a dangerous path....
Most definitely
Free speech, especially academic free speech is so important to defend.
It’s collapse will usher in an age of zealotry and group think and will turn academia into the most vile place.
As a Cambridge alma, I am so very concerned about what is happening there.
So you disagree?
Even the economist has an article about academic self censorship and groupthink.
Say what you will about your personal politics - it can’t be healthy to limit diverse thoughts and have faculty and students afraid to voice controversial opinions for fear of reprisals.
But I suppose my punctuation is somehow more important. . . I’m glad I did not list all my academic credentials - seems like that’s more of a trigger for some lol
Do you disagree with what is being said in this video?
Give them 10 yrs in prison...it'll stop.
Why don’t more people listen to historians like Charles Moore
Probably because he is not that interesting. He is good for one thing at least, he continues to represent the distasteful status quo very well.
They have been taught to hate their history
He’s not a historian. Despite his authorized biography of Margaret Thatcher, he is more properly a journalist (former editor of the Daily Telegraph/Sunday Telegraph, and at one time editor of The Spectator). Now in retirement, he still pens a column for The Spectator. Very (‘old school’) Tory and a theist; he’s, very occasionally, quietly witty, but almost never profound nor surprising.
@@Charcmodeyour listening lol
@@stephenholmes1036 I watched and listened well. That’s what we do to find out whether something is acceptable or not. It’s ok to reject his views, he is not the only historian in town.
When you cannot make your case reasonably and peacefully and persuade people to your argument and in frustration turn to destruction/intimidation/threats/lies/criminality, then sadly you have failed in your cause. Well done to The Spectator & Lord Charles Moore
Ha that's a load of bull. The whole history of both Britain & the US is larded with violence used in lieu of persuasion. I personally prefer art be left out of protest, but kids act like kids.
@@johnsmith1474 The entire history of humanity is larded with violence used in lieu of persuasion. When hunter-gatherers encountered other hunter-gatherers over 300,000 years ago, there was violence over territory, food, mates, trade, power, etc.. We've hardly evolved an inch.
@@johnsmith1474 not to mention, ALL the african states, lost of the South American States, most of the middle eastern states, China, Japan, Russia, Turkey, Italy, Austria, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland (in particular the IRA)! SO your point is completely mute.
The ONLY nation to make a stand against slavery, the ONLY one to go to war against other nations to STOP the exploitation of the African people, was Great Britain, the only Nation the fight on alone against evil trinary of the axis forces until other nations were attracted was Great Britain (and its Commonwealth), having bankrupt itself TWICE fighting evil tyrannical dictators, who thought nothing of slaughtering millions of innocent men women and children on a industrial scale, or using them as slave labour until they died from lack of food and water or from overwork.
The USA still act as a colonial force to this very day, and racism is still rife in many states, and indeed even until the 1960's, were still passing laws that were completely racist and discriminatory against persons of african descent.
While you all too freely knock the British, for actions that were perfectly acceptable in their day, you fail to appreciate how most European nations have much longer colonial histories, or how other European Nations were very evil in regard to targeting people based on race or religion. The British helped shape the modern world. A world that allows you to make such free speech statements, a world where the slaughter or exploitation of a race or religion of peoples is not tolerated (largely that is, unless your a politician from Israel it would seam), A world where evil tyrannical dictators were prevented from taking over wide portions of the globe, and the British people should be proud of this, and anyone failing to appreciate this, needs to get educated into the true events of global history of the last 2000 years!
@@johnsmith1474 your statement is a load of complete bull twaddle really if your going single out The British and the US (the latter are the modern colonial force of the western world), without mentioning the benefits the British have brought to the world (including industrialisation and the fact the British justice system has been copied by most of the free world) , and how we led the fight against Slavery, and how we bankrupt ourselves TWICE to keep the world free from tyranny and inhumane evil acts. what about the French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Austrians, Romans (and later Italians), Russians, Turkish, Greeks, Irish (particularly the republicanist movement), Japanese, Chinese, North Koreans, North Vietnamese, Indians, Pakistanis, Afganastanions, Iraqis, Iranians, the Saudi States, Israelis, Palestinians, Egyptians, as well as a majority of African states, many of the central american states, Cubans, Chiiians, Argentinians, even the Vatican at the bequest of versus popes. Their the ones off the top of the head who are guilty of doing the things you claim, so to single out the British shows a very massive degree of ignorance. The world would be a very darker, more evil and much poorer place without the 150 or so years of British influence.
Radicals are creating new slaveries, not learning from past or developing skills that develope well rounded character. Big Hug All...
Muslims and Hindus shared vast India and received all the wonderful benefits that the British Empire provided. The first thing they decided at independence was that they could not live peaceably, side by side. Then they proved it by murdering each other in vast numbers at partition and followed this up with numerous wars. Our elites decided to import vast numbers of both groups to re run this religious violence on a very small island. It will not be fine.
Muslims murdered millions of Hindus when the Moguls invaded India .
True
How well do you know these two religious groups? 😀
@@PS-ej2xn they don't mix, most disappear from your life when you leave school.
@@wobblybobengland Could it be that their focus is somewhat different from yours? The key question is: different in what way?
Thank for expressing these calm and eminently sensible ideas.
Have they arrested anyone yet?
What will the police / law do to the perpetrator?
prob class it as free speech and do nothing, while punishing those who speak out against the perpetrators actions. That's what has happened the defacing or destruction of statues and monuments over the last decade.
It is inciting violence...
Has this person been prosecuted?
Charles Moore is a thoughtful man.
The perpetrator was Huda Ammori of the Palestine Action Group .
Such is Blair university educating has caused !
I hate Blair as much as anyone, but this sort of radicalism among leftist students predates Blair by decades.
Trinity produced Newton, Byron and Tennyson, but also Kim Philby.....
and Guy Burgess, John Cairncross, Anthony Blunt, Donald Maclean, Michael Straight and no doubt other KGB agents! There was also NAZI members who were educated at Trinity College, Cambridge, not to mention sexual deviants such as Lord Byron.
Trinity also 'produced' Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt and John Cairncross. I doubt any one of the 'Cambridge Five' would have had the crassness to vandalize the painting of Arthur Balfour.
@@njd2342 or commit criminal damage of any kind. most People, regardless of their political persuasion, were taught to respect other peoples property back then.
@@James_Rivett Ironic that communism rejects personal property.
@@njd2342 I think the phrase "champagne Communists" would apply those those 5, much like many who had high position in the kremlin. It's a bit like the phrase "champagne socialists often are now used to refer to the leaders of the labour party, as non of them have ever had a hard manual job, and most have entered politics straight out of university or from wealthy families.
The only one who really gave up his privilege place in life for his ideas, was Tony Benn. and while if found his political beliefs abhorrent, I had the greatest respect for the man for making the sacrifices he did and for his war service.
I was in a club in Dubai once (first mistake made) and a young guy came up to me, asked where I was from. As soon as I said UK, he spat out Balfour and stalked off. I was 24 and had little idea until then of MENA history, but I got the message pretty clear from then.
Biggest mistake the British Empire ever made was to help create Israel on top of Palestine.
But The City of London needs their finance
Why didn't you mention the UN's Decolonization goal, or the legal right to resist foreign domination, which UAE recognises, and that he's surely aware Israel / Judah once ran from the river Jordan to the Med sea, till invaded, a third of the population killed, and the kingdom colonised and settled by Umar ibn al-Khattab arab hoard. Descendants of those colonial arab settlers, of the Arabian peninsular, being the cause of today's issues. So surely he should be celebrating Balfour's declaration, as the first step on the road to the native people on the non-arab side of the river Jordan, freeing themselves from centuries of colonial arab oppression. If not actively campaigning for a Hong Kong esk, great return, with the last colonial settlers setting sale for their native lands.
@@evolassunglasses4673 - The British Empire had no intention of creating a Jewish State, the Jews simply ran it down their throats at the same time Britain lacked the resources to do anything about it. The British were kicked out of Palestine by the Jews along with so many Palestinians. They won, they pulled it off. Even lacking the Balfour Declaration to open the door they very well might have done the same thing, as there was no power there to stop them.
@@evolassunglasses4673 You will find Jewish people were there before any Palestinians.
MENA ?
Did they ask daddy to pay with a cheque and make it "a club thing"?
Schools should not accept any kind of voilence or vandalism off course.
How do they not know who did it. I saw a video of her talking about it. ??????
Difference between this and burning a book?
This is worse than burning a book. It is a unique work of art whereas there are thousands of copies of most books.
A violent act? So, how does it compare to genocide? That's rather violent.
they still haven't found that women the vandal yet?
Protected, of course.
They are paid controlled opposition to distract, divide and conquer.
Lowlife paid troublemakers. Soon they will be back on JSO protests, or Buy Large Mansions marches.
Surely it is possible to identify the girl who did the vandalizing from her distinctive clothing and hair?
Thanks for sharing, shared.
If Jewish people wont pull their money then why should these univerisities change?
Jewish money has been funding Woke
Anyone with an once of
common sense should
pull their money out of
these institutions of
"higher learning" that
have become
indoctrination centers.
Plenty of Christian. Islamic and govt lefty money going to these universities.
Who said that Jewish people haven't stopped, many definitely have done so but there's plenty of other money, see the comment below
Gosh, a UK university challenging the Establishment!😮
No that is the establishment, this is the current orthodoxy.
Will conservators be able to repair and restore the painting?
This is so sad,I had the pleasure of being invited in hall for supper there in 1976
Would that it were enough to hear such thoughtful debate and know that it would have real world consequences in setting our society back on a righteous course.
The fact an American woman is questioning an English man is trembling
What does Charles Moore mean by "So called colonialism"? Does he believe that Britain didn't have colonies.?
I doubt it - I would imagine that C.M's reference to 'so called colonialism' was about the prevailing attitude towards Britain having had colonies.
I am utterly in schock. 🇮🇱 For Ever 🫶🏼. Thank you for this interview. Well Done 🌺
When all this idiocy was done in South Africa under the 'guise' of 'anti-colonialism' Rhodes must Fall nonsense in 2015, noone in the world condemned it, now it comes to you.
World has forgotten the 'nip it in the bud',the bud becomes a tree, the tree becomes a forest, then no one can see the trees for the forest.
It's an excuse to be an asshole.
The status quo speaks.
This has little to do with the UK, modern or 20th century. It's a legacy from the Ottoman Empire.
Actually the Romans who ruled Palestine for several hundred years with Emperor Hadrian kicked the Jews out of their homeland in 132 CE after the Bar Kokhba revolt.
@@njd2342 You might find it rewarding to take a look at the Ottoman legacy.
@@njd2342That was Phillistine not Palestine.
@@suethompson6497 Hadrian sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem's name to Aelia Capitolina (although scholars are divided over whether to place Jerusalem's name change before or after the revolt). Synagogues were replaced with Roman temples.
Absolutely agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent, big up from Romania
What?
I am a similar age to Charles Moore. Why do I feel that the interviewer's manner is patronising? It's almost as if she is interviewing an older person for a oral history project at a care home.
Hardly, he is only 67 not 87
@@gregsmith1070 It's not him that was the problem. It was the gentle "empathy" of the simpering interviewer who gave me that impression. As I said I am a similar age.
SADLY, THIS YOUNG GENERATION IS LOST ! THEY DON´T KNOW WHERE THEY BELONG AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR; THEIR ONLY AIM IS BEING AGAINST
EVERYTHING TRADITIONAL AND BRITISH !
Oh how shocking! Somebody damaged a painting of an old imperialist. How about some sympathy for the 14000 children who've just been slaughtered as an indirect result of his declaration?
So why should one study at Cambridge what with failing standards😂
Its not violence. And equating it to violence is purly poltical. Its vandalism, which has its own laws. Sure, you can attempt to prove it was something 'more', in a court of law, but youd be hard pressed doing so.
How come Early English arrivals to Australia do not make 'convict-ism' into a victimology, do not destroy and march against their history. In fact in Australia the only marches today are done by recent foreigners who Australia kindly opened their doors of sanctuary to.
When they have finished attacking Jews, will those with convict-history be attacked violently too?
As an Aussie, I've often thought about the same thing. Certain cultures choose to identify as the perpetual victim (African Americans, Jews and Palestinians, Aborigines, etc. etc.) Luckily, us Aussies chose to have better character than to act as the 'poor little convicts'.
Hahahahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahha
Defacing a portrait is not a violent protest. The poll Tax riots were a violent protest. 😂
What the fuck is up with the music?
It's truly awful.
It's amazing that in 1917, when Palestine was still under Ottoman rule, the British were already supporting the creation of a state on land they didn't even own. Talk about imperial arrogance.
I fail to see exactly what The Spectator expects to prove by showing the full letter at 4:04. The pledge not to "prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine" is darkly comical in light of the circa 31,000 Palestinian casualties since October 7 2023. It's like these people have no self-awareness.
What would be your solution to the conflict?
The irony that the actions and sins of your forefathers returning to haunt you and that's the payback.
I don't see much haunting and paybacks for Turks still occupying little Asia or Arabs still occupying North Africa, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq. Who turned "the breadbasket" of Roman Empire into a desert.
All payback is in your head. There is no nation which can be held to this standard and there is no need for that.
Britain must be proud of its history and great culture. There are few other nations which contributed as much as Britain to human civilization.
@@dmitrykazakov2829 But, the pay back is happening.
We just have a soft legal system. That can change any time but, why our police are ignoring the group known to have done this is concerning.
How dare you? As if you know our real history when you only know your own!
Most here didn't even know about Balfour! They had no power in politics! No man could vote unless he was rich enough to own land and the vast majority were in abject poverty. Whole families in one slum room or the workhouse, or on the streets and left there!
The fact feast channel shows how it was up to Edwardian times - and it stayed that way and at times was worse until after WWII.
Balfour. In a misgovernment the vast majority had been disallowed from voting for before they returned from WWI in late 1918. Suffering lingering deaths from injuries, TB, so called Spanish flu, pneumonias and more. Yet we are blamed for that Balfour Declaration.
They could have had beautiful Madagascar with no bloodshed, but that wasn't the lucrative gateway to world trade!
This is why so many British don't want the protests here. Our forebears had no control and in fact didn't even know about what was being done. It was literally nothing to do with them. To this day we cannot help others elsewhere because the banksters have used mass immigration to weaken us in our ancient homeland. Now we at last know who caused all wars but we cannot stop them because so many have become cultural Marxists, and blame us instead of teeming up with us to disempower them and retake their ill gotten gains.
You know your own histories but not the cruelty we suffered from invaders and long before the Rothschilds.
Y sycc sons, their angels and ju tes along with their northman cousins who weren't from France but settled there after invading the ethnic French first Circa 970. They attacked countries after the more friendly Romans left taking a lot of fighting age men with them, promising they would return with valuable Roman citizenship if they went and fought for Rome, but Rome fell and the men didn't return. Our isles were left with mostly women, old men and children. That's when they invaded. Like cowards.
That is how they 'Won' against the Britons and Celts.
Look up Bersted Man from the turn of the iron age, before even Rome invaded. We weren't primitive for the time. Far from it. The Roman villas were usual worldwide, and were built by different civilisations than Rome had nothing to do with. Rome restyled some and claimed them. The Romans weren't as bad as the druids though and a lot of ancient Britons preferred them. The problem was after the Romans left with the Briton men.
Look up medieval British tortures and know the invaders after the Romans practised on us first. Well, actually after they did those things to the actual French.
Now it's bankers married and bred with them. All wars are them, their royal relatives and politician family members etc.
Look at the Kalergi plan. First to finish off whites, then blacks then almost everyone else, except for enough of the most slave minded Chinese who will be transhumans (cyborgised).
The hate against the average British people is unjustified, and you know it's distraction from the real culprits, but who will protest outside of their main businessess like the the bank of England? and outside their homes and palaces? Most of you don't ever name them far less criticise them - because you know you are not allowed to criticise those who rule you. Instead you target the scapegoat you know full well was staked out by them for you to attack. You know we are that scapegoat. That's cowardly.
"i slam is the broom we will use to sweep Europe clean" a Rabbi. Who thinks Islam will be allowed to keep Europe when you aren't even allowed to keep Palestine?
Go and protest where the real culprits are. Not at our statues for our brave WWI soldiers - who had no knowledge nor power of what Balfour and his banker, politician and royal friends were doing. Don't protest on our streets.
You are being exploited to weaken and destroy the real Britons and Celts, so those in control can then destroy you and yours. You need to return to your own homelands and force change there, and let us regroup properly to force change here so we can between us totally disempower them worldwide for all time. You won't do that on an overcrowded set of small islands far from your own countries, will you?
Islands you can easily be trapped in. Can you swim to escape to France or anywhere else when they close almost all private and public airports, sea ports and marinas here? They intend to close them by the early 2030s. How will you and your children leave when you need to? Then they will finish the depopulation plan. They will finish you too.
This is MY homeland. The homeland of my ancient ancestors. So I shall die here. Do you really want to commit genocide on us, and then have those who fomented it to do the same to you? What do you think 5g and higher is for? A military microwave weapon and used in war when turned up. They have it all planned out. My white people first, then blacks then almost everyone else enticed into Europe, and much more easy to do on islands. Think! Use your brains instead of having them used by others. Go and retake your lands and oil and everything else. Let us do likewise here and elsewhere in Europe. If you aren't in your own homelands you leave a gap for others to fill. Of course you do.
Why didn’t the secularists give them part of Germany? After all it’s closer to home.
Because, as we know they were welcomed home in the beginning
Stalin had grabbed half of
Germany (and all of
Czechoslovakia, Poland,
Estonia, Lativia, Lithuania
Romania and Bulgaria) by
the end of 1945. Nobody,
not the people living there
or the Jews who were in
those camps wanted to
live under Stalin and his
USSR.
It was correct to send back to their original home, as per the promise.
It was a copy ffs 😂😂😂
Why so-called colonialism? Doe's he deny the British and other's colonies? 6:03
Balfour despised Jews, that's why he refused to let in any Jewish refugees from the pogroms in 1905. He'd have got on very very well with Taki and Douglas Murray.
Sorry, I don't understand - are you implying that Douglas Murray is an antisemite? That's preposterous - he seems to spend a lot of his time defending Israel!
You win the award for dumbest comment of the week
He didn't despise Sabbatean Frankists who had been Khazarians who converted to Judaism, then altered it though. Clearly he didn't!
Most here didn't even know about Balfour! They had no power in politics! No man could vote unless he was rich enough to own land and the vast majority were in abject poverty. Whole families in one slum room or the workhouse, or on the streets and left there!
The fact feast channel shows how it was up to Edwardian times - and it stayed that way and at times was worse until after WWII.
Balfour. In a misgovernment the vast majority had been disallowed from voting for before they returned from WWI in late 1918. Suffering lingering deaths from injuries, TB, so called Spanish flu, pneumonias and more. Yet we are blamed for that Balfour Declaration.
They could have had beautiful Madagascar with no bloodshed, but that wasn't the lucrative gateway to world trade!
This is why so many British don't want the protests here. My Victorian born grandparents had no vote for who politicians were. Nor did most people then! Hardly any working class and poor even knew about it, and there weren't so many middle class. It was still either extremely rich or very very poor even to abject poverty. The poverty that kills!
You just remember your comment isn't only read by youngsters and foreigners who only rely on the www for history. Many of us are old enough to know from our own close enough forebears.
Are you a paid shill? Remember it is illegal to deny it of you are. So ARE you?
You two are emotional crippled 😊
How are they emotionally crippled? Please provide details. Thanks.
"Cambridge have been fanning the flames". Cambridge have? How many Cambridges are you talking about Spectator? Or did you mean "Cambridge has been fanning the flames? Pretty illiterate. I'm not going to bother clicking on The Spectator again.
🤣 Part of me admires your extreme pedantism, but really?! First of all, it's conceivable in an interview that someone might mis-speak, secondly Cambridge is a university made up of many colleges; it is, therefore, arguably correct to use the verb 'have' in that sentence, since Moore is referring to its colleges and 'Cambridge' is a proper noun representing a collective. But 'bye', I'm sure The Spectator is heartbroken at its loss. 🤣
@@carltaylor6452 I thought 'What?" to the OP, but I like your response far better.
I think Charles Moore is almost certainly a lot cleverer than you are. Grow up.
High on the neuroticism scale, ey?
Yes, that's the important part, not the portrait being destroyed.