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The engine from the mini needs to go in the allegro
plz for the love of god supercharge the allegro
does this car work on car vertical???
Another certain famous 'Barn Finder' CZcamsr, is converting an Allegro into a K20 Type R sleeper! (Johnny @ 'The Late Brake Show') 😏👍
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If you are not already thinking about this, you should, both the mini and Alegro have 1275 A series engines albeit with slight differences depending if the mini is an ‘A+’ or ‘A’, the allegro will most likely have a milder cam than the later A+ mini engine (most likely sources from a metro) swap the supercharged 1275 mini engine over and fit to the Allegro, while you are there fit some 1.5 roller rockers as that will add extra valve lift and some more Hp for not much, good idea to put a fresh head gasket on it while doing that, and ensure it has a spacer plate fitted to lower the compression ratio.
Make sure the fuel pump is swapped over too.
If you can find a ported 1275 head that will make it much better!
scrap the mini body and put the super charged A series in the Alegro and do like the Late Break Show is doing.
What about What Retro Power are doing to two Allegros?
2 carbon fibre Allegro Integras
Just what i cane to say 😂
@@mattyclemmit324 same screaming agro would be awesome
This needs more likes.
Please add a content warning before jumpscaring us with the appearance of an Allegro
I damn near shit myself
john marco allegro - the sacret mushroom and the cross
😂
😂😂😂😂
Serious ptsd risk for many dads out there
“Andy, fair play you’ve done me over” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 brutal honestly
Karma for the kei car situation 😂
@@Stealth360stealth Still on about it, get a grip honestly
@@Jago-pe5qu its a joke not a dick, don’t take it so hard
@@Jago-pe5qu its not that deep lol, they were obviously joking
Alex "Are you going to be sad to see it go?"
Andy "Not really...."
😂😂😂
A British Leyland car is the only car that Alex could rebuild himself to the same standards as the original factory
Ouch apply water to burned area
ethan could do better than BL even unsupervised
Most were good, but the allegro, that was one shitty car lol. I had two spitfies, my brother had many minis, A rover p6, two spitfires and 3 MGB GTs. Honestly BL was a pretty decent company until for executives joined at started cutting corners. The cars are surprisingly solid for the era, id recommend having a go in one.
Not really. If it were a Hillman Imp, maybe, but British Leyland cars atleast had some standards.
That is not a compliment 😂😂😂😂
Allegro + Supercharged Mini drive train! Done!
Yes!!
Came here to say this
Beat me to it
Yes, and all that in 2 weeks! I think Taylor's hitchhiking this trip.
So obvious
“If you wanna buy a classic car for 3000£, DONT”
spot on 😂
And they are buying two more 🥲
It was £2500 for the mini. And it was cheap for a reason
like jezza clarkson at the end of the cheap supercar special. Yes, you can buy a supercar for less than 10k. But for the love of god, dont.
my mk2 golf was 3k and is rustless and 63k miles, so yes, you can find one
@@shikiagi6226 Yeah but then you have to drive a mk2 Golf which I know from experience is pretty miserable.
I love how Taylor naturally and organically quotes Jeremy Clarkson “a symphony of brown” in his general vocab. Just goes to show how much underlying influence that show had on all us car nerds.
Or what a blatant rip off this channel is. Even down to the ''back up'' car.
@@Retrobeemerand going downhill fast. Not to mention Alex is becoming insufferable.
And that's not counting the vintage Y Fronts in the boot. For added brown ness.
Get Ethan a welder from the middle aisle of Lidl and let him watch an “intro to welding” CZcams video. See how he gets on 😂
Sounds ridiculous but iv heard decent things about the Lidl welder aha
Ethan had an intro to welding on the 3 Series compact they had... He welded up the diff.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
now we're talking...
Alex wobbling the gate was killing me 😂😂 but it looked close to the car I was like 😮 but all good
See the next scene with the gate, it was touching the bumper
Same 😂
That gate coming soooo close to rubbing against the car as Alex was shaking it... eek!
This was such a ADHD moment 😂
Can’t believe he went to someone’s home and just started shaking the gate 😂
Guy's Love the channel, but Shedfest today was a nightmare. I like many drove a long way to see you all and was presented with a nightmare. I manged a whole hour in the venue after a 2 hour drive and a 3 hour queue, many others turned round and went home. Mallory Park were unable to cope with everything and everybody. Concession stand queues where ridiculously long, toilet queues where the same. An apology and ticket refund would be a decent gesture.
Sorry lads a lot of us feel quite let down at the moment and some sort of proper apology post might help keep us watching.
I feel exactly the same 3.5 hours to get parked 30 minutes in queue 30 minutes for a coffee money grab ticket sales no organisation sorry lads today was a joke disappointing
Agreed and disgusted didn’t even get in, without an explanation and a full refund I’ll be unsubscribing, sorry
I really agree with this comment.
Brought 5 tickets and we made the 2 and a half hour drive to then sit in 3 hours of traffic and got nowhere near the entrance. No traffic management visible or any strategy in place. Everyone was livid and upset.
No communication or updates from anyone.
The social posts made for good reading though 😂
Think these guys have used all of their credit in the bank with me, first off Taylor ripping that poor lad off and then trying to justify it on the podcast after being made to apologise, and now a crap, oversold car show full of junk and 4 hour queues with absolutely NO apology. I'm really struggling to actually watch these guys without disliking them now. Just seem very greedy and uninterested whenever there's an issue.
Damn i feel bad for you and all the other people and quite lucky personally reading all this. After i moved about 500m in 30min at that town near Mallory i knew it was a non-starter so I parked in a side street, grabbed a nice coffee at a local shop and walked for about 30min to get in. 🙈 But to be fair the show was mid anyway. the live podcast was completely unprepared and Mike Brewer didn't make it because his dog sitter (i think) bailed on him 🙈
There’s a number of comments suggesting putting the Mini engine + supercharger in the Allegro. STOP!!! The Mini is a 998 and the Allegro is a 1275. Far better and easier to whip the supercharger off and bolt it to the Allegro! The allegro is 53 BHP (stock), so you’ll end up with around 100 BHP. You’ll L need the modified timing cover (minus breather) off the Mini engine and a second or thicker head gasket (decompression plate). Other option would be to enlarge the chambers in the head.
wheres the mention that its a 998 it could be 1275 as well
@@MrPistola187 It does say on the Ad they show in the vid
I just want the mini repaired xD
Badge says 850 👀
@@MrPistola187 It's a yellow block which is a 998cc.
Andy barely tried to hide his excitement there 😂
Nearly pissing down his leg 😂
honestly guys, its not a AutoAlex challenge without Taylor using a green mini and taking the piss with the budget.
Any announcement on the farce of shedfest? Looking likely over a 1000 people never made it into the event with 1000s more only able to see the last hours of it. Love the channel and all that you do but come on do what’s right please. People had kids in their cars for 3 to 4 hours queuing after hours of driving to get there.
yup he got greedy, went thorugh paypal resolution for refund
Wish we had used paypal
@@Scottyglitch yeh their request refund through the app or website doesnt really do anything, maybe contact bank, pain though doing that
Great video, that mini is fitted with oversills, that's why it's rotten, it's a common bodge on classic minis.
That and it looks like it'd been Waxoyled recently (to hide the rust, probably), waxoyl over existing rust just makes it rust from within.
Call in good old Tom right up his street, he'll swear at it a bit and it'll be right as rain😂
Alex 12:28 just shaking this guy's fence to bits 😂
“Andy fair play you’ve done me over”😂 What goes around comes around!😂
Yep, karma for ripping that bloke off a few weeks back.
Thank you guys for 2 amazing years of great content !
With the two other channels and the V2, we are really spoiled :-)
Andy had a Quantum 2+2 too!! What a guy!
Shedfest was a complete nightmare!!! 3 hours of queuing in the traffic chaos. Really appalling planning 😡
Every time I see an Allegro I always feel bad for Harris Mann (the guy that designed it) as his original drawings and models looked great. Then BL made the whole car taller and rounder so they could fit a larger (and taller) engine. Completely ruining all his efforts to make a good looking small car.
That said I think they are a bit over hated, badly made but for a small car they rode well and the old A-Series is a tough old lump!
I look forward to seeing this disaster again!
Exactly. The Allegro suffered from the same issue the XJ220 did: they promised something cool but under delivered by a big margin. The 220 was still a proper beast but the Allegro had no hope of recovering. Ignore what it could have been and it's actually perfectly fine for the era.
Yeah these were always a bit of a laughing stock even back in the day, but I never understood why tbh. I don't think they looked that bad, and at least they were a bit different to the rest of the banal BL fleet.
@@HendrickT-bi4iw
I always really liked my Nan's 1500 estate. Cracking car!
Engine from the mini should slot into that allergo nicely…just a idea
This is the way
Im not sure why Taylor is saying he was done. He had all time to do these checks, knew it was rusty and said himself it was cheapest in UK.
I was looking for a classic mini myself and actually saw this on facebook a few months ago, I am so happy i had self control that day and passed 😂
Rory is never gonna live this down is he? 😂
absolutely not!
Getting the mini or coming all the way upto Wigin ?
@@Foxstar1387 buying a stolen Bike 🤣
@@georgebeswick7549 that damn bike
Haha, mai gawd, standard rust on a Mini, sills (inner and outer), doorsteps, floor pans, toe boards, heel boards, a-panels and valance. Luckily, you can get a complete prebuilt floor sections - saves a lot of time. Probably rust around the scuttle, lower rear quarters and front wings too. You can buy a complete shell from Heritage or panels - to suit your budget. Be good to remove the patchwork quilt repairs it had, never understood why people will do 3,4 -8 repairs on a panel when one slightly larger one would do it. Oil leak will be gear selector shaft seal - its a given, rocker cover and maybe the upper rear plates. Sometimes the mechanical fuel pump can leak.
You could learn to weld, it would open up your project builds massively! Learning on a Mini is ideal. Check out BOM - Project Binky and also Urchfab - Mongrel build - for welding pr0n. Then you can avoid getting worried about rust and rot. "A grinder and paint - makes me the welder I ain't" is a great saying. Be interesting to see how many repairs over repairs the Mini has - most people are too dumb to cut the rot out first, then wonder why it rotted away again in 18months. You might be suprised and find they cut the rot out first - rare on a car with underseal used to hide rot. I'm keen to see - I love judging the bodges people do on cars - so I can question their family lineage.
As for the all-agro - check out RetroPerformance - they are doing two spicey ones - their workmanship is top shelf.
Superb entertainment as always fellas, looking forwards to this series.
Hard +1 for welding content during car builds. Alex armed with a welder? What's the worst that could happen?
If you do scrap it, maybe make a new podcast couch out of it instead.
@@Aecidius Yeah, either of them. I'd wager the gas would be left on after the first go and the head scratching on the second go would be funny. "Wait, why isn't the gas working?" haha.
@@Chilled_MackersThat's why Taylor is getting Gresswells to fix the rust on his BMW 😄
@@BenExell Yeah, I see it, Josh does good work - they made a big fuss on the rust on the Mini - yet its the same repairs as the bimmer 😆 cheaper panels on the Mini though and UK sourced.
I tell you what I love about this channel - you highlight the downsides and bad purchases. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows!
You know its wrong alex, the ones who couldn't get in today deserve full refunds! It was over sold. We sat in traffic for hours and had to leave because of hunger!
This about the car show he put on?
Sorry Aussie looking for information
I never knew that Fred Flinstone had a supercharged mini, because that is the only person I know who has a hole that big in the bottom of his car 🤣 you learn something new everyday 🤣😆👍🏻 looking forward to this series already
That's a classic example of someone putting oversills on and not treating the rust underneath, it just silently rots the floor out of sight. My Mini is nowhere near that bad (is road legal and young enough to still need an MOT) and I've had quotes of £13-15k just to de-rust and paint the shell! That Mini needs a lot of work to be safe, that shell is almost as bad despite appearances as the firewall is rotten.
Sell the Mini on Taylor (it's worth around £1500 for the engine and drivetrain) and take the Allegro.
You can buy a brand new shell from mini spares for £10k 😄
@@BenExellthey still need a lot of prep to be ready for paint, you're looking at £17-20k for one ready to be built up!
@@neildaniel8232 and that's if the body isn't too shoddy. I currently have a 57 T Bird that looked great from the outside and drove well, but the undercarriage ir completely shot. Official repair estimate? 25.000€ for fixing the undercarriage and another 20.000€ for a new paint job.
I'd be glad to just get a 20k bill
Just cage it up and repair the worst... Good to go!
Loving the Quantum! My dad had a H4 in the late 90s
Shedfest was the worst thing I have ever seen organised #shitfest 3hours to park 30 mins to get in 1 hour for a drink never again money grabbing ticket sales no staff joke never again shame love you guys
You got in?! 2 hours queuing to move 300 yards. Gave up had a tired and upset toddler to think about, went to see some trains and had a lovely day in the end. Incompetence of the organisers, where’s the public statement?
Exactly when I did get in he made a joke on stage about people stuck in the queue witch I did not think was funny in any way someone needs to make a statement about what is going to happen about the situation it was organised by a bunch of idiots one person parking 13000 cars ffs are they stupid glad you had a good day with the trains 👍 MONEY BACK REQUIRED
TWO YEARS!!!! Congratulations Alex, I really can't think of anyone more deserving of your success. Fantastic squad, even better content. Can't wait for the next 2 years!
12:15 I though you will crape that car with a gate lol, Jesus how close that is :d
Yeah me too, was watching it the whole time😂
Haha ya
If you knew your minis, prices are still mad. That’s the price people are asking for rust buckets. You’d have to spend triple that for a decent one but likely still have rust hiding.
You can still buy floor pans and sills for a classic mini, cut the rot out, weld the good in. This is what REAL car guys do!
This. Not really doable to a standard that makes it worth it in the time they have, but definitely doable _and_ it would be interesting to see Taylor tackle some actual car repair work on the V2 channel. If none of your bodyshop mates will take the job, weld it yourself Hetherington!
Rain started to drop and the new video came out, ideal.
Exactly
Sick car mate.... Can I get the £40 back for my shed fest tickets please? Spent 3.5hrs trying to get there after all! Much love 😘
P.S. that guy from petrol.hedonism shouldn't be allowed to do traffic control or social media stuff 🤣🤣🤣
My mums first car was an allegro
1.3 in Brazil (metallic brown) with a brown vinyl interior, it apparently drunk oil like a Glaswegian
Snap. My Mum owned one exactly the same too
Wow. That's very interesting.
I never saw anything from British Leyland here. Everybody at that time basically drove VW Beetle, Ford Corcel and Chevrolet Chevette 😂
In 1976 the military government banned imported cars and this ban continued until 1991.
@@yano.moraes1492 Brazil was a metallic brown colour that was offered at the time, he's not referring to the your country!!!
Great episode and wonderful to see this type of content back on the channel. Looking forward to this classic challenge that can only be good ❤
I Really Enjoy your videos cant wait for this series
I can't believe I slept on this channel so long. I've been spending the last few days watching (nearly) all the old videos, and it's been great!
Buy a Celica GT4 and swap all the bits in. A moment’s work.
Only one or two brackets needed.
Mini supercharged drivetrain + Allegro + sporty upgrades = a fun project. You can then do a road trip to Ireland to see that bonkers project putting a Metro bodyshell onto a Boxster chassis.
12:32 - That Mini S owner has one of those Kit Cars based on a Ford Fiesta! 🤔😏👍
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Heritage body shell? If not, bring it to Norway, I'll weld it - not very well, but I'll give it a go...
should've got a Lada Niva
I owned two of them over the years. They're so rare now.
Stuck in traffic for shedfest.
Absolute f**king joke
i am loving the old top gear chalanges vibe.
I'll admit Andy was a really good swindler! He even started showing more corroded areas since he knew the deal was closed.
Aside from the frame swap idea (if you are even able to find a clean Mini shell without rust), the other option is to sell it as parts, I'm sure you will be able to gather together at least £2000 from all the parts that aren't rusty.
Thank you soo much! This is the video I’ve been waiting for. Love, love, LOVE the classic mini. One day I’ll get another one. Great series guys, really looking forward to this one ❤✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
I own three classic mini's, my turbocharged one was a nut and bolt restoration and has 155hp. It might not be the fastest thing on the road but it is definitely the most fun!
Supercharger that Allegro 💪
That Quantum 2+2 also in green, looks lovely! And rare! 😍
They are quite rare, I have one and it always gets lots of attention
I can’t believe it’s been two years! It’s been an absolute treat to watch the channel grow, as well as seeing you boys having an absolute blast. Cheers to many more years!
Classic car content, that sounds brilliant 😁 cant wait
Maybe put the mini drivetrain into Allegro and do some weight reduction of that's possible ig
Andy must be laughing hard watching this 😂😂😂❤❤❤
How could you not talk about the Quantum 2+2, a crazy and super rare two car green pairing!!
I am mid 30’s and have a cheap red MGb roadster, I love it!!
Really looking forward to this series
I've got a feeling that supercharged a series is going to go in the allegro, I reckon that was the plan all along anyway 😎👀
Buy some heritage panels (floorpan, sills), someone will weld 'em in for you.
I’m sure you can afford a new shell from the oversold shedfest tickets fiasco 🤬
Don’t buy a ticket if it’s overpriced
@@JustBurnOilhe said over sold not over priced... It's completely different. One is charging too much the other is selling more tickets to an event without having the capacity for them.
@@bb-ballistics1706 so they didn’t let people in at the event with a ticket ?
@@JustBurnOil not sure. I was just explaining what he ment by his comment. But that's what I sounds like.
@@JustBurnOilfrom what I have seen and heard, yes. Long lines of people waiting to get in, only to never make it because of sitting for hours and having to leave for bathroom breaks and food, all while never getting into the show.
Take the engine out and put it in the allegro.Always wanted to see someone do one of them up
Andy can spend most of that £2500 repainting the front of his other car caused by someone bouncing a gate against it………
Quantums are fibreglass and finished in gel coat so it's fine it will bounce off fine
Although looking at the floor pan and the quantum I think Andy really likes fibreglass 😂😂
@@paultossell1455 Is that fitted with a cvh engine?
@slacko1971 yes most have cvh as based on mk2 fiesta _xr2
Ahhh that's classic mini rust. It's had corners cut like they all did to keep them on the road. Oversills, fiberglass, paper 😂 just like mine.
Good thing id , complete sills, floors and any panel you could ever need are readily available from a variety of suppliers. Just get the sparkle spanner out and crack on boys.
I loved the old MCM series with this same supercharger setup. Glad to see these are out there.
Holy shit already been 2 years... Still remember your first video like it was last week :D
Am I the only one who was not surprised by the actual state of it? Was extremely obvious before they even bought it that it was a complete rust pit that was painted over, stuffed up, and never once repaired properly anywhere.
Andy must have been laughing his ass off that he managed to sell that rust bucket for £2.5k.
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The engine in the car is probably worth 1k minimum with the supercharger on, you could break the car and make the 2.5k back easy
One of my biggest scares with my Peugeot 309 Graffic when I got it was having rust like this Mini but thankfully all was ok, my own visual inspection didnt fail.
Had to do some work but for a 30 something year old car wasnt bad.
I love this challenge already!
As the owner of a British racing Green (with white roof) mini I approve of this video very much. All the panels including a complete new shell are available to buy
Oooh, a British classic? Lovely jubbly!
Love the content. Would it be possible to get a garage update/ project updates on every car. It's so hard to keep track of what's still around. Feel some resolution is needed for some projects too.
I had a metallic brown on brown Allegro 1500cc 5 spd. As someone else said here 'it drank oil like a Glaswegian' i used to 'recycle' mobil 1 for some garages i knew 😅 always leaving the half empty bottle in full sight.
Just pop the head and supercharger in the Allegro, maybe the entire engine if its a 1275.
Shit fest??? What's happening been sat on same road for 2 hours
I turned back in the end, wasn't worth sitting in traffic any longer...Travelled miles too. Gridlocked...
I turned around at half 12 after waiting in a random village for 2 hours, absolute joke. If we don't get refunded then I think all hell will break loose
@@ligma_nutz unfortunately already put in a request via PayPal for the money back.. Actually really disappointed more than anything
@@ligma_nutz it was around half 1 when I turned around.
It was 11AM when I arrived at some town, which sat nav said was 8 minutes from where the what3words spot was. By half 1 I estimated getting to the carpark around half 2; at this point I was 0.3 miles away! With the walk to the circuit I reckoned maybe the time will be around 3/quarter past? I'm not certain about the walk time...
I was then thinking when it's time to leave, if we'll be sitting in traffic like that on the way back, so decided to turn around.
Did anyone make it to shedfest who followed the followed the instructions to go to what3words location? I just went to Earl Shiltonfest then hedgefest the never going to makeitfest after getting waved on from several car parks.
Pull the engine from the Mini and drop it in the Allegro, it should pretty much bolt straight in
Just the supercharger would do!
Supercharge the Allegro using the parts from the mini! They both use A series engines ultimate sleeper.
the other car on Andys drive is a Quantum kitcar, Another great british car, I have one myself
Next week, Taylor sweeps his new project into a bucket, drops the supercharger in the top - done!
Put the supercharged motor in the Allegro. Be hilarious! 😂👌
I had a mini like this. I learnt to weld on it. Side steps, sills, floor and boot floor. Most fun this I had to do. I would happily do it again 😁
Hi Taylor, there was a 1750 cc powered Allegro which you might consider or the Crayford convertible which means a lot of rear bodywork strengthening if you intend to chop the roof off. There's always the Vandan Plas with the 1500cc engine.
Head rests exist to reduce injury to your neck/spine in the event of a crash, not for actually resting your head. They are a 'head restraint', but are often called a headrest. They one of the best safety features of a car.
Still, big plus if they are comfy to rest your head, specially for passengers who would be interested in actually resting
Other than Volvo's invention of the seat belt?
I’ve been waiting for a classic Mini. Excellent Video 👏
Great video Love the Allegro looks very original, the Mini look Awesome but on closer inspection 😢. Look forward to the next episode 👍🏻.
The engine from the Mini should go in the Allegro, also this explains the state of the headrest in the F11...
I'm 1 minute in and you've brought on my second ever car at 18 years old a pretty much exact replica of it "WUP 846R" but mine had headrests, I loved that car, burned oil like nobody's business but I agree with the "your Gran" comments 😂. Slate me all ya want, I don't give a 💩, I loved my Allegro!!
That is not the worst mini shell that I have seen. It is completely repairable, and you would be surprised at the cost of a complete floor pan than will weld into place.
Just reinforce it with x-braces before chopping the floor out.
It's not all that bad is it. Some floor and sills and it would be OK. Taylor needs to learn welding with a MIG and get on with it. I have seen worse than that but I'm mid 50's, so it was common back in the day and the younger guys aren't used to seeing rust like we used to get it.
It's definitely fixable given the availability of replacement panels but the labour cost would be massive. Taylor can't weld so he'd have to get someone to do it, I'd suggest he try and learn himself but this is a bit too far gone for a beginner to tackle.
Exactly this! With the shell fixed this will fetch 5k+ at current prices, there's probably not 3k's worth of welding to be done so I reckon he'll still come out evens and have a cracking little Mini.
Mini Solution - weld the doors closed for some extra rigidity and weld some angle iron along the sills. Job done.
Enjoy watching Taylor trying to in and out via a window.
I love this video better then car throttle keep up with the good work
pls i beg you guys take the allegro to the nurburgring lmfao imagine it 5 guys and misha behind the wheel 🤣
You know the Nürburgring has hills, right?
@@drunkenhobo8020 im aware, rory can push.
Yes, everyone like this comment.
Mine was worse than that. Cut it out and fit new front floor pans, sills and steps. Easy for a mini enthusiast to sort.
Phone M Machine (based in Darlington) for the panels, 2 sills, 2 front floor sections and repair the other holes with 1.2mm steel, a weekends work for a decent welder
Hey guys I'm a long time (ct days) watcher but never comment. Just need to say love the work you guys do and my days are always better when you've uploaded. Keep smashing it, hopefully some much needed love if you come across this!