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How do you feel about the theory that Matt's dad was one of the five orginal digi-Destin. I believed it up until tri because Yamamoto's dad doesn't look like anyone of the og dd's and is also to old. Just asking, have a fantastic day.
Personal HC is that Matt’s dad is one of the original Digidestined with Gabumon as his partner who’s path turned it into griffomon. He knew what Gabumon was when he first saw it but didn’t know that Garurumon was that Gabumon’s digivolution
Yeah, ever since Gennai mentioned there being a group of digidestined before Tai's, I've thought Matt's dad was probably one of them. I think it would be more likely for his Gabumon to have digivolved to Monochromon, then Triceramon, though.
I always thought tapirmon would have turned fanglongmon. I kind of wish that it actually happened and after the reboot she realized her partner didn't die but instead had ascended already and took its place before the others. To have her realize that she was used and lied to, would have been an incredible character moment.
the problem with digimon is, what it does right it does really good but for the wrongs.. there is s lot of fan service and potential (like in Kizuna where the Digimon and Digidestined are an established element more or less in their world) but i feel they always hesitate to make the step from a very good kids show to a franchise with a heavy lore where actions have consequences in the long run.. they kinda did this with kizuna but it would really suprise me if they stick with what the end wants to sell.
I agree. I love seeing digimon that were portrayed as evil before working together with heroes to help others. It goes to show you that all digimon can be a good guy if they have the will to help others and team up with the right tamers. I want to see more like this in the future, maybe with LadyDevimon or hell, even Belphemon.
@@gabrielerusso326 at least two french digidestened have Gazimon as a partner, as well as Alice's dobermon could have evolved from Gazimon, and Gaomon is a variant of Gazimon
see the thing about Orochimon is that it has support like attacks. It has a breath that makes digimon drunk. It is also kinda slow and imobile. Really underwhelming for an ultimate level. It's a good boss digimon if you make it a kaiju, but not really exciting for a protagonist.
I love the idea of Maki having Megidramon as her mega as like a corrupted version but I also like the idea of it potentially becoming Goldramon as I have always thought Taperimon would be a good choice as the rookie for that Digimon.
I also think Tapirmon and Maki were destined to be Fanglongmon, to guard all the Four Holy Beast. Maybe if Fanglongmon exist, Four Holy Beast wouldn't lose and get sealed by the Dark Masters. It was destined to be. But Maki lost it and go into dark route. Fanglongmon didn't exist. And Four Holy Beast lose.
Yeah it definitely felt like a purposeful attempt to give them full lines, some I like and came to similar conclusions for and some I like a lot less for either like lacking in "good partner" or feeling a little off
Great selection!! I think Flarizamon would be perfect for the Tapirmon evo. It maintains the helmet that both tapirmon and Megadramon have and I could see flarizamon’s flames burning away in an evolution and leaving the orange scarred looking skin of Megadramon.
I absolutely loved your chosen evolution paths and Fanglongmon theory. As I honestly was thinking about similar evolution paths when I saw what happened between. The Dark Masters and the Original Chosen children. I personally believe that Maki and Tapirmom were leaders of the original groups as it’s the Four Sovereigns and Her Theoretical Fanglongmon is their leader.
Digimon ReArise is NOT canon to Adventure. The banner lines are simply suggestions by either the ReArise team or MAYBE Bandai. More of these are similar to ReArise than others, but ReArise has some fun ideas for these lines!
I'm glad that you said this because my knee-jerk reaction to this video was an immediate "B-but ReArise..." and this comment was like a much needed slap in the face for that.
sadly most evo line is common in anime , yes that Single path so can be assumed their lines semi canon, especially when they use specific Digi like Mucho, V Elec , Kame, & Bear
Personally, the Evo lines from ReArise make the most sense for me. A group of not-so-special digimon becoming super special is a tale as old as time. Even if ReArise isn't canon to the original Adventure series, these Evos are the best I see as official evolutions for the Sovereigns in the series overall. For Tapirmon, I have Baluchimon, Megadramon and Alphamon. As for the Dracomon/Huanglongmon line, it would make sense if there was a secret sixth Digidestined behind the scenes during the Zero-Zero Digidestined's adventure, and would fuse with the Sovereigns to become Huanglongmon. I even made a special fusion for Huanglongmon and Alphamon Ouryuken, called Alphamon Ultra Mode, to mirror Tai and Matt's Omnimon becoming Merciful Mode by fusing with the rest of the Zero-One gang.
I love the idea of Zhuqiaoumon line. Starting with yellow and red element from Muchomon, and then change withe with yellow on Akatorimon while still keeping the red on the tail, and then completely white on Hippogriffomon, and then back to red and yellow with Zhuqiaomon. I believe this
I love those evolutions lines, and I couldn't agree more for the Tapirmon line. I seriously made up a theory for why Megadramon would transform into Fanglongmon, with a couple of details that always bothered me, such as the fact that, like you said, 5 is a magic number here, and all the Beasts use their attacks on Megadramon against the Dark Masters. It is implied he was sacrified, but we already saw in Adventure that attacks could also be use as power-ups. That, and some other things, make me really think he wasn't just sacrified. Love the implication of Megidramon too
The Digimon TCG gives hints to what Bearmon and Tapirmon digivolved into. Also the crests didn't exist with the original team, but assigning isn't to hard if you consider Hope and Light released Azulongmon. I would assume they would be paired Courage / Friendship, Love / Sincerity, and Knowledge Reliability, with Himekawa most likely representing Kindness.
Because of tri I want a prequel series of the predigidested even more just the thought 💭 of the Digi world before the destruction where it just a step away from annihilation with multiple conflicts / most likely more evolve digimon then just the occasional ultimate
@@minicle426 I personally interpreted as her dying, as being at the mercy of a Digimon based on a Lovecraft deity sounds like a fate worse than death. But whatever the case is, my best bet was that it was probably part of some unresolved plot point that was left forgotten due to Tri's very messy nature.
I’m so glad you mentioned fanglongmon- all roads point to it! I have no doubt in my mind that’s what should’ve been. I wonder why it didn’t happen though
Maybe Homeostasis knew that Huanglongmon was too poweful and if he joined forces with the four holy beasts they could stop him from achieving it's true goal???
My headcanon is that Izzy's birth parents could have been original Digidestined, as was Matt's dad. (Yes, I know him naming Gabumon was a dub flub, I like this idea better)
Between Tapirmon and Megadramon, I personally like (the metal helm they both wear along with) Flarizamon for color red like Megadramon or Darkrizamon maybe having a connection to the torture she had during Tamers when she was deleted permanently maybe matching Maki's dark arc where she lost her partner seemingly for good.
Karn all your content is such quality, it's a damn shame you aren't an even bigger channel. But going through all your back logs of videos (since I just found your channel about a week ago) and also going on your second channel, I hope me commenting on everyone of them helps boost you up in the algorithm. Even just a little. Keep up the phenomenal work my man. You're a legend!
Actually, here’s a thought for a future video: what if the Tamers kids had Crests? (Either the crests from Adventure, give or take Kindness from A2, or even brand new crests unique to them) It doesn’t have to apply to Frontier and Data Squad but fun to think about.
So got any speculations on the 02 movie with the whole first person to partner with a digimon? Cause I’m hoping their digimon has some big importance to the digital world.
I'm waiting for a first proper trailer to really dive into it in a video, I think. There's just so little info to go on at this stage but I am very excited for it!
For Orochimon, why not Kudamon? I know it doesnt fit the armor evo but the snake-like and holy aspect is perfect imo. Also I have never thought of how Megadramon into Megidramon really does fit.
I had a crack at the same thing when this movie first came out and came to the same conclusion as you regarding Huanglongmon. The lines I came up with were: Bakumon > FlareLizarmon (the silver helmet is the connection here) > Megadramon > Huanglongmon Bearmon > Gryzmon > LoaderLiomon > Baihumon Dracomon > Coredramon Green (strengthening the dragon theme) > Triceramon > Qinglongmon Kotemon > Darcmon > Hippogriffomon > Zhuqiaomon (I think I like yours better for this one)
I did the same thing and I think it's interesting how I also picked Darcmon for the Hippogriffomon line. I was going for a female line, cus it didn't feel right without it. So the rookie was Tinkermon.
As you talked about Digimon ReArise, I like to add that the game created a interesting evolution line for each of the Four Holy Beasts Kamemon > Dinohumon > Orochimon > Xuanwumon/Ebonwumon Bearmon > Grizzmon > LoaderLiomon > Baihumon (this was kinda obvious where to go, exactly as you thought) Muchomon > Akatorimon > Hippogriffomon > Zhuqiaomon (another one exactly as you speculated) Elecmon (the blue one, virus version, and this line was so unexpected to me) > Tuskmon > Triceramon > Qinglongmon/Azulongmon And I also like to think that Bakumon kinda lives in Huanglongmon, as it was that sacrifice that created the other four sacred creatures. Nice video as always!
I agree the Rearise Lines seem the most likely for the original digidestined, although according to Rearise Tapirmon becomes Machinedramon. Rearise claims AeroVeedramon or DoruGreymon > Dorugoramon > Huanglongmon rather than Megadramon. Dorumon Family for DoruGreymon & then either Veedramon or Tyrannomon for AeroVeedramon.
Great video as always. Your choices always seem the most logical and most accepting. You know, this does make me wonder why none of the Digimon Sovereigns have showed up in the Vital Bracelet yet? We have Ancient Digimon, but none of the sovereigns? It would be cool to have them as partners in the vital bracelet one day. Also, this does make me wish they actually explored the dark ocean more. I always had this wish that there would be a short story where a human is trapped in the dark ocean because they were desperate for a Digimon partner, and fell there by accident trying to get into the digital world and obtain one. And while there, they befriend and bond with a Syakomon. So, they have their partner, but now they’re trapped in the Dark Ocean forever, never ageing, never starving, but just trapped in a stasis like feeling forever. A cautionary tale of just appreciating what you have instead of envying others for what you don’t have.
I never really realised that I adored Akatorimon until I saw it and just gave a sad smile. No other mons I've randomly heard the names of other than Togemon and Sakuyamon got that response from me. Brb feel like playing dw2 again
I love this video it was one of the best I have seen from you and I agree with you I always thought that Maki Himekawa would have her Digimon digivolve into Huanglongmon
@@Karn_EX what do you think would have happened if Hida Horiki and Oikawa Yukio Became the first two digidestined and had the Digimon able to digivolve all the way up to Mega and Fighter Mode and Paladin Mode Then maybe sacrifice Paladin Mode to allow the five original digidestined to digivolve to the Divine mode
Glad I'm not the only one. Heck, I'm still not 100% convinced he wasn't reborn as Huanglongmon in the centre of the digital world after sealing away the Dark Masters.
I don't like using Armors for Champions, although I will accept a Quetzalmon Recolor into Orochimon. I prefer the Rearise Digivolutions for Ebonwumon & Azulongmon personally. As for Maki & Tapirmon I believe Megadramon is a Dark Digivolution, which supports Megidramon as being likely. As for Huenglongmon if Maki raised her Tapirmon better I like the idea of it possibly reaching that form.
Sometimes, it really feels like you are just doing pitches for new series. If that's the case... Please go on. I have a feeling it will work out one way or another
I think the dcg already gave us hints on maki's mega honestly. And with it kinda confirmed your line for daigo's bearmon as it infact does become grizzlymon then loaderleomon and finally baihumon. Maki gets megadramon and tapirmon too so my personal theory goes two ways: either it's the blackwargreymon that the 02 digidestined faced, with its memories wiped clean from how long it was inside of the dark ocean (where maki couldn't find it) or it could have turned into a gaiomon which honestly would have been a neat idea
a while ago I came up with something similar my lines for Zhuqiaomon, Azulongmon, and Baihumon were Identical for Ebonwumon I went with an earth theme with Sunarizamon and Tortoisemon my Tapiermon line went to Unimon to match Tapiermon's theme and Megadramon's wings, and BellStarmon as the mega beacuse the woman who shot divermon's with a bazooka deserves to have a Musketeer, Additionally all 4 have a simmaler faceplate
From the shadows, the originals are Agumon, Patamon, Biyomon, Tentomon and Gabumon, which to me means that the originals were Ty and Kari's dad, Matt and TK's mum and Dad, Sora's mum and Izzy's dad, Matt and TK's dad knew Gabumon and we never got to meet Izzy's dad so we don't know if he had any connection.
Tbh I would love if you did this again but gave some of them custom digimon, or even just a custom line in general. Bearmon has a very clear line, but I would love to see a custom champion for tapirmon, and new rookie and champion digimon for the other three digidestined
Rearise gave the evolutions chains with the release of the 4 holy beast banner. The orochi came from a kamemon which I thought was good but it just took orochimon out of the lineage for a bit because it goes turtle, reptile man, snake and then tortoise lol but the fanglongmon evolution I think would have been cool too or it would have been an opener to creating a new type of holy beast. Imagine a holy dinosaur or holy elephant, just because the elephant is considered a diety in some places, as opposed to the dragon and holy beast we have now.
@@Karn_EX I know but they had some good figures for them? I really wanted something for tapirmon along the Mammothmon evolution type cause if they wanted they could have made it reginal based qith tapirs and elephants sharing environmental regions so like a Buddhist/ eastern mammal humanoid utilized skullmammothmon and mega digivolving to a dark priest or shaman like holy digimon. And I only say it like that since skullmammothmon is still vaccine type but a violent type
Ok the reason for Orochimon is that the Northern Sovereign isn't just a turtle, with it being a 2 headed Snake inside of a Turtle Shell that grows a tree. Ebonwumon fuses the Turtle Data from Kamemon & Dinohyumon with Orochimon's Legendary Monster Data with the source Orochi being described as having plants growing on its back. I also tend to prefer Tapirmon becoming Mammothmon.
Funny enough rearize did a gacha with the 4 and your spot on with the Zuqiaomon,Ebonwumon had Kamemon Dinohyumon and orochimon can’t remember who Azulongmon
Yeah, I should have mentioned it really. ReArise definitely made a good attempt at the lines but some of them just don't work and the banner isn't Adventure canon
Japanese usually make Dinossaurs evolve into Dragons because for them, they are actually dragons from the beginning. The Kanji for the word Dinossaur in japanese language reads "Kyōryū", that means "Fearsome Dragon", do they're dragons from the begining to them. I happen to know this because of Dorbickmon's card, that says he can DigiXros with any digimon with the kanji ryū in it's type, can dinossaur has it, ceratopian has it been "Tsunoryu" or "Horned Dragon", Plessiosaur is "Shucho Ryu" or "Boss Dragon" and so on. So it makes sense for them, that dinossaurs could evolve into dragons, if for them, they are already dragons evolving into stronger dragons, or humanoid dragons in cases like Dorbickmon, WarGreymon and so many others.
I’ll be honest, I COMPLETELY forgot these kids were even a thing. I never finished watching Tri, and basically learned from an outside source about the villains, and then I lost interest in wanting to finish watching them. That being said, this video was very interesting and something I never really considered thinking about since, outside of Tri, these kids didn’t play a huge factor in much. Though I do like a lot of your selections for Rookies. That one Dinosaur one with no arms(who’s name I ALREADY forgot….) looked both adorable and ferocious. Would love to see him get more love. Great video as always Karn! I haven’t really been in the holiday spirit this year despite a lot of other exciting stuff going on for me, and these videos just constantly cheer me up. So thank you.
I think personally you could slap ophanimon and Seraphimon on there as the holy digimon protectors or switch out them for a Lucemon Holy mode and Dominomon
I agree with everything except the hueglongmon part see megadramon doesn't exactly Evo to such a thing since Huanglongmon classified as a ultra in some cases thank to the pendulum z an some vpet being consider digivices in some mangas so if we're saying that it kinda doesn't hold up in all respect I think the champion is understandable mostly I agree with the Megidramon Evo
I'd be more concerned and I would like them to explain why these digital destined wind up getting Mega Partners from the start and to this day those megas don't D digivolve meanwhile the new digidestine erra is like essentially all but rookie and base form and D digivolve easily
I know I'm 2 months late on this but, I have a feeling that Matt and TK's dad was one of the original digidestined since he knows about Gabumon even though Matt never told his dad about Gabumon.
I have zero doubt that Maki's evo line was Tapirmon -> Monochromon -> Megadramon -> Fanglongmon. In the Tri flashback it seemed like the four Sovereigns were trying to combine their power and evolve Megadramon into Fanglongmon, but Maki and Megadramon's bond wasn't strong enough to pull it off.
Nice plot of origin i agree. Makes you wonder tho what was the evil they had defend from. Cause you no they was ones that created the prophecy of tai group i still think jini a big part of how the origin became.
In-training through Mega for the Originals in my opinion Wanyamon/Bearmon/Gryzmon/Loader Leomon/Baihumon Tokomon/Tapirmon/Tyranomon/Megadramon Koromon/Snow Agumon/Allomon/Orochimon/Ebonwumon Caprimon/Gotsumon/Monochromon/Triceramon/Azulongmon Pyocomon/Muchomon/Saberdramon/Hippogryphomon/Zhuqiaomon
For Maki I really like the theory that Maki's Digimon was in fact a wrong evolution and that's why it died instead of becoming Fangwumon, I don't know if I spelled that wrong. What I think happened is Maki was unable to unlock her crest for some reason so instead her Digimon digivolved into a different path then it was meant to, when the Soverinets attacked it what I believe they were doing was give it their powers so it could digivolve into Fangwumon had it been in it's true ultimate form. In my personally fanmade story of the original digidestined Maki's crest was selflessness, she and the others have their own unique crests that no one else had. In the story Maki selfishly keeps Tapirmon from fighting because she's afraid to see him hurt so Tapirmon has to digivolve into a different path then the holy form he was meant to just to survive, in the story he is the only one to reach his mega form since the others only reach mega as the Soverinets in his "wrong" path he becomes Machinedramon. In the story the reason the Soverinets lose to the dark masters and were sealed away was because they were fated to win only if all five of them became their holy forms. In the end of the story it's revealed the whole story was the Soverinets telling Tai and the other adventure digidestined their story and it ends with the sad lines "There was supposed to be five." Had Maki been able to unlock whatever her crest was there likely would have been five holy digimon and perhaps Maki wouldn't have gone her dark path.
I find it really cool that the original digidestined got to be paired with digimons that would become the four Holy beasts. Too bad for me I have zero attachment to the kids x'D
I know that your Zhuquiaomon-line is exactly the same as in Rearise, because I hatched a Muchomon which may digivolve to it, but what about the others? Are they the same as well?
That was probably what happened, although even if she Dark Digivolved that probably would have been helpful in defeating the Dark Masters. Which path do you think her Tapirmon should have taken? I usually think of Apemon, Mammothmon, & SkullMamothmon when I think of Tapirmon digivolving.
As much as I love Baluchimon as a Champion for Tapirmon, I genuinely think Himekawa's Tapirmon would become Monochromon, who would become Megadramon, because there's a Tapirmon in ReArise with Monochromon as its Champion and Megadramon as its Ultimate. I do love the theory that he would become Fanglongmon, but I honestly think Fanglongmon would be more like an "Ultra" form for it, so its regular Mega could be something like Megidramon, Spinomon, or Dinorexmon. Also, even though they ignored the silhouettes in tri., which is fine, I like the idea of the Hippogriffomon Digivolving from Unimon, coming from the Patamon in the silhouette. Honestly, my favorite Champion for Triceramon is probably Tuskmon, but I don't have a good Rookie for that suggestion, maybe the Agumon in the silhouette.
Every member of the original Digidestined has been confirmed about a year ago but the fan wiki has not been updated as of yet. Spoilers to anyone who reads further on. Here are the lines- Muchomon -> Akatorimon -> Hipogriffomon -> Zhuqaiomon Bearmon -> Grizzmon -> Loderliomon -> Baihumon Elecmon (Violet) -> Tuskmon -> Triceramon -> Azulongmon Kamemon -> Dinohumon -> Orochimon -> Ebonwumon Also, I remember hearing somewhere that Maki's Tapirmon's Mega form is most likely Machinedramon.
No they weren't. These were lines created for the Digimon ReArise banner. It may be a SUGGESTION for their lines but is not defacto 100% confirmed Adventure canon.
Weren’t these lines confirmed in the game re:arise? Elecmon (purple)->Tuskmon->Triceramon Muchumon->Akatorimon->Hippogriffmon Kamemon->Dinohumon->Orochimon Bearmon->Grizzmon->Loaderliomon
Wasn't there a moment is digimon 02 where we see Ken went to the digital world as a young kid (og Takeru/Kairi age) and was with other digidestined then? Maybe Ken was originally the 6th of these peeps 5. Or maybe there have been more sets of digidestined before and after Tai and the gang than we know.
Also considering the they became the sovereigns what is the differential between like that and the Digimon the supposed to be at the center of the world longwangmon
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How do you feel about the theory that Matt's dad was one of the five orginal digi-Destin. I believed it up until tri because Yamamoto's dad doesn't look like anyone of the og dd's and is also to old. Just asking, have a fantastic day.
I REALLY like the idea of Matt's dad being one of the 5 but yeah Tri kinda makes it less likely. Something I would love to see explored too though!
@@Karn_EX did you ever make a video talking about what digimon partner would not partnered characters have. Like Ken's brother and Matt's dad.
Hey Karn how about you do a give away of a battle of omni booster in your next video
Whats the current content that digimon has out (show wise )
Personal HC is that Matt’s dad is one of the original Digidestined with Gabumon as his partner who’s path turned it into griffomon. He knew what Gabumon was when he first saw it but didn’t know that Garurumon was that Gabumon’s digivolution
Also unlike the other parents, the dude acts extremely chill to everything that happened in Vamdemon's invasion.
Yeah, ever since Gennai mentioned there being a group of digidestined before Tai's, I've thought Matt's dad was probably one of them. I think it would be more likely for his Gabumon to have digivolved to Monochromon, then Triceramon, though.
I like the idea that Izzy's birth parents were part of the original Digidestined... but that's just a headcanon.
@@juliagoodwin9510 I kinda wonder if Cody's dad and Oikawa were meant to be part of that group, too, but couldn't join them for some reason.
@@fishandjam5383 ...that's an interesting idea...
I always thought tapirmon would have turned fanglongmon. I kind of wish that it actually happened and after the reboot she realized her partner didn't die but instead had ascended already and took its place before the others. To have her realize that she was used and lied to, would have been an incredible character moment.
the problem with digimon is, what it does right it does really good but for the wrongs.. there is s lot of fan service and potential (like in Kizuna where the Digimon and Digidestined are an established element more or less in their world) but i feel they always hesitate to make the step from a very good kids show to a franchise with a heavy lore where actions have consequences in the long run.. they kinda did this with kizuna but it would really suprise me if they stick with what the end wants to sell.
It is really cool to see orochimon as a good digimon, given how the only other times we've seen him he was treated as some sort of ancient evil threat
Definitely agree! I love "evil" Digimon being used as good partners in general!
@@Karn_EX #givegazimonachance
I agree. I love seeing digimon that were portrayed as evil before working together with heroes to help others. It goes to show you that all digimon can be a good guy if they have the will to help others and team up with the right tamers. I want to see more like this in the future, maybe with LadyDevimon or hell, even Belphemon.
@@gabrielerusso326 at least two french digidestened have Gazimon as a partner, as well as Alice's dobermon could have evolved from Gazimon, and Gaomon is a variant of Gazimon
see the thing about Orochimon is that it has support like attacks. It has a breath that makes digimon drunk. It is also kinda slow and imobile. Really underwhelming for an ultimate level. It's a good boss digimon if you make it a kaiju, but not really exciting for a protagonist.
I love the idea of Maki having Megidramon as her mega as like a corrupted version but I also like the idea of it potentially becoming Goldramon as I have always thought Taperimon would be a good choice as the rookie for that Digimon.
I also think Tapirmon and Maki were destined to be Fanglongmon, to guard all the Four Holy Beast. Maybe if Fanglongmon exist, Four Holy Beast wouldn't lose and get sealed by the Dark Masters. It was destined to be.
But Maki lost it and go into dark route. Fanglongmon didn't exist. And Four Holy Beast lose.
Ruined Mode perhaps?
Digimon ReArise gave full lines to each of the sovereigns, and they use the ultimates from Tri. I don’t think it’s a coincidence.
Yeah it definitely felt like a purposeful attempt to give them full lines, some I like and came to similar conclusions for and some I like a lot less for either like lacking in "good partner" or feeling a little off
I never got to get that far :/
Great selection!!
I think Flarizamon would be perfect for the Tapirmon evo. It maintains the helmet that both tapirmon and Megadramon have and I could see flarizamon’s flames burning away in an evolution and leaving the orange scarred looking skin of Megadramon.
Ooh yeah Flarizamon would be a ton of fun too!
Had the same thought!
I was thinking Airdramon. It combines dramon and the mystic aura.
Okay, let's go: (Those are the lines I came up with)
Swimmon - Seadramon - Orochimon - Xuanwumon
Muchomon - Saberdramon - Hippogriffomon - Zhuqiaomon
Elecmon - Cyclomon - Triceramon - Qinglongmon
Bearmon
- Liamon
or Mad Leomon - Loader Liomon - Baihumon
Bakumon - Airdramon - Megadramon - Huanglongmon
These are fun!
@@Karn_EX Thank you.
I absolutely loved your chosen evolution paths and Fanglongmon theory. As I honestly was thinking about similar evolution paths when I saw what happened between. The Dark Masters and the Original Chosen children. I personally believe that Maki and Tapirmom were leaders of the original groups as it’s the Four Sovereigns and Her Theoretical Fanglongmon is their leader.
Digimon ReArise is NOT canon to Adventure. The banner lines are simply suggestions by either the ReArise team or MAYBE Bandai. More of these are similar to ReArise than others, but ReArise has some fun ideas for these lines!
I'm glad that you said this because my knee-jerk reaction to this video was an immediate "B-but ReArise..." and this comment was like a much needed slap in the face for that.
sadly most evo line is common in anime , yes that Single path
so can be assumed their lines semi canon, especially when they use specific Digi like Mucho, V Elec , Kame, & Bear
Personally, the Evo lines from ReArise make the most sense for me. A group of not-so-special digimon becoming super special is a tale as old as time. Even if ReArise isn't canon to the original Adventure series, these Evos are the best I see as official evolutions for the Sovereigns in the series overall. For Tapirmon, I have Baluchimon, Megadramon and Alphamon. As for the Dracomon/Huanglongmon line, it would make sense if there was a secret sixth Digidestined behind the scenes during the Zero-Zero Digidestined's adventure, and would fuse with the Sovereigns to become Huanglongmon. I even made a special fusion for Huanglongmon and Alphamon Ouryuken, called Alphamon Ultra Mode, to mirror Tai and Matt's Omnimon becoming Merciful Mode by fusing with the rest of the Zero-One gang.
I love the idea of Zhuqiaoumon line.
Starting with yellow and red element from Muchomon, and then change withe with yellow on Akatorimon while still keeping the red on the tail, and then completely white on Hippogriffomon, and then back to red and yellow with Zhuqiaomon. I believe this
This is something I've always found extra interesting. Just some more of the digi lore they only scratch the top of
Yeah, wish it was explored more!
I love those evolutions lines, and I couldn't agree more for the Tapirmon line. I seriously made up a theory for why Megadramon would transform into Fanglongmon, with a couple of details that always bothered me, such as the fact that, like you said, 5 is a magic number here, and all the Beasts use their attacks on Megadramon against the Dark Masters. It is implied he was sacrified, but we already saw in Adventure that attacks could also be use as power-ups. That, and some other things, make me really think he wasn't just sacrified. Love the implication of Megidramon too
The Digimon TCG gives hints to what Bearmon and Tapirmon digivolved into. Also the crests didn't exist with the original team, but assigning isn't to hard if you consider Hope and Light released Azulongmon. I would assume they would be paired Courage / Friendship, Love / Sincerity, and Knowledge Reliability, with Himekawa most likely representing Kindness.
Because of tri I want a prequel series of the predigidested even more just the thought 💭 of the Digi world before the destruction where it just a step away from annihilation with multiple conflicts / most likely more evolve digimon then just the occasional ultimate
I honestly, among the many things that in Tri that rubbed me off the wrong way. I really wish that Daigo and Maki had a much happier conclusion.
Yeah it felt a bit misery porn at times, huh?
@@Karn_EX That's a goddamn understatement! Even Tamers didn't leave me in such a sour mood!
I was always puzzled by Maki's fate. Did she perish in the Dark Ocean. Or do Dagomon/Daemon have plans involving her in some future plot?
@@minicle426 I personally interpreted as her dying, as being at the mercy of a Digimon based on a Lovecraft deity sounds like a fate worse than death.
But whatever the case is, my best bet was that it was probably part of some unresolved plot point that was left forgotten due to Tri's very messy nature.
I Choose to ignore Tri's existence. Because f**k that season.
I’m so glad you mentioned fanglongmon- all roads point to it! I have no doubt in my mind that’s what should’ve been. I wonder why it didn’t happen though
Maybe Homeostasis knew that Huanglongmon was too poweful and if he joined forces with the four holy beasts they could stop him from achieving it's true goal???
@@LinkAlmeida Maybe, it's a good theory!
Surprised we never got to meet the other three kids as adults, even as cameos.
Yeah very odd
My headcanon is that Izzy's birth parents could have been original Digidestined, as was Matt's dad.
(Yes, I know him naming Gabumon was a dub flub, I like this idea better)
Between Tapirmon and Megadramon, I personally like (the metal helm they both wear along with) Flarizamon for color red like Megadramon or Darkrizamon maybe having a connection to the torture she had during Tamers when she was deleted permanently maybe matching Maki's dark arc where she lost her partner seemingly for good.
Your content keeps getting better and better
That means a LOT thank you so much
I liked it! I love your videos that elaborate on details from the anime!
Karn all your content is such quality, it's a damn shame you aren't an even bigger channel. But going through all your back logs of videos (since I just found your channel about a week ago) and also going on your second channel, I hope me commenting on everyone of them helps boost you up in the algorithm. Even just a little. Keep up the phenomenal work my man. You're a legend!
Great video Karn! I can’t wait for the next video. Also I like what you did for Maki and tapirmon.
That means a lot, thank you!
Actually, here’s a thought for a future video: what if the Tamers kids had Crests? (Either the crests from Adventure, give or take Kindness from A2, or even brand new crests unique to them)
It doesn’t have to apply to Frontier and Data Squad but fun to think about.
these types of videos always impress me nicely done!
So got any speculations on the 02 movie with the whole first person to partner with a digimon? Cause I’m hoping their digimon has some big importance to the digital world.
I'm waiting for a first proper trailer to really dive into it in a video, I think. There's just so little info to go on at this stage but I am very excited for it!
For Orochimon, why not Kudamon? I know it doesnt fit the armor evo but the snake-like and holy aspect is perfect imo. Also I have never thought of how Megadramon into Megidramon really does fit.
Ehhh it's okay, not really snake-like, it's a sort of ferret
Yeah. Kudamon is based on a youkai called the Kudagitsune, which translates to Pipe fox
I had a crack at the same thing when this movie first came out and came to the same conclusion as you regarding Huanglongmon. The lines I came up with were:
Bakumon > FlareLizarmon (the silver helmet is the connection here) > Megadramon > Huanglongmon
Bearmon > Gryzmon > LoaderLiomon > Baihumon
Dracomon > Coredramon Green (strengthening the dragon theme) > Triceramon > Qinglongmon
Kotemon > Darcmon > Hippogriffomon > Zhuqiaomon (I think I like yours better for this one)
I did the same thing and I think it's interesting how I also picked Darcmon for the Hippogriffomon line. I was going for a female line, cus it didn't feel right without it. So the rookie was Tinkermon.
As you talked about Digimon ReArise, I like to add that the game created a interesting evolution line for each of the Four Holy Beasts
Kamemon > Dinohumon > Orochimon > Xuanwumon/Ebonwumon
Bearmon > Grizzmon > LoaderLiomon > Baihumon (this was kinda obvious where to go, exactly as you thought)
Muchomon > Akatorimon > Hippogriffomon > Zhuqiaomon (another one exactly as you speculated)
Elecmon (the blue one, virus version, and this line was so unexpected to me) > Tuskmon > Triceramon > Qinglongmon/Azulongmon
And I also like to think that Bakumon kinda lives in Huanglongmon, as it was that sacrifice that created the other four sacred creatures. Nice video as always!
I agree the Rearise Lines seem the most likely for the original digidestined, although according to Rearise Tapirmon becomes Machinedramon. Rearise claims AeroVeedramon or DoruGreymon > Dorugoramon > Huanglongmon rather than Megadramon. Dorumon Family for DoruGreymon & then either Veedramon or Tyrannomon for AeroVeedramon.
Great theory video. Always enjoy seeing them pop up in my suggestions.
Great video as always. Your choices always seem the most logical and most accepting.
You know, this does make me wonder why none of the Digimon Sovereigns have showed up in the Vital Bracelet yet? We have Ancient Digimon, but none of the sovereigns? It would be cool to have them as partners in the vital bracelet one day.
Also, this does make me wish they actually explored the dark ocean more. I always had this wish that there would be a short story where a human is trapped in the dark ocean because they were desperate for a Digimon partner, and fell there by accident trying to get into the digital world and obtain one. And while there, they befriend and bond with a Syakomon. So, they have their partner, but now they’re trapped in the Dark Ocean forever, never ageing, never starving, but just trapped in a stasis like feeling forever. A cautionary tale of just appreciating what you have instead of envying others for what you don’t have.
This also reminds me I need to actually finish watching all of tri 😂
Haha it's a struggle
This was EPIC! Glad i came across this channel. The more digi-luv, the BETTER! SUBBED
Thanks so much!
@@Karn_EX welcomed!keep up the awesome work
Yaasssss will watch as soon as out of work 😎🙌
Commenting to help future Digidestined watch your channel!
So glad you mention fanglongmon
That makes so much sense and great video .
Thanks so much!
I never really realised that I adored Akatorimon until I saw it and just gave a sad smile. No other mons I've randomly heard the names of other than Togemon and Sakuyamon got that response from me. Brb feel like playing dw2 again
These are excellent picks!
Thanks so much!
I love this video it was one of the best I have seen from you and I agree with you I always thought that Maki Himekawa would have her Digimon digivolve into Huanglongmon
That means a lot, thank you so much!
@@Karn_EX well you're welcome
@@Karn_EX what do you think would have happened if Hida Horiki and Oikawa Yukio
Became the first two digidestined and had the Digimon able to digivolve all the way up to Mega and Fighter Mode and Paladin Mode
Then maybe sacrifice Paladin Mode to allow the five original digidestined to digivolve to the Divine mode
Glad I'm not the only one. Heck, I'm still not 100% convinced he wasn't reborn as Huanglongmon in the centre of the digital world after sealing away the Dark Masters.
With so little info. about them, it's fun to explore the possibilities.
Definitely, I just wish we had more to work with!
I'd like to see what your ideas would be for if each kid had a team of 3 digimon
Hmm could be interesting
Baihumon also has the same coloration of fur as Grizzlymon i noticed
Good Video Karn Ex
I appreciate that!
I don't like using Armors for Champions, although I will accept a Quetzalmon Recolor into Orochimon. I prefer the Rearise Digivolutions for Ebonwumon & Azulongmon personally. As for Maki & Tapirmon I believe Megadramon is a Dark Digivolution, which supports Megidramon as being likely. As for Huenglongmon if Maki raised her Tapirmon better I like the idea of it possibly reaching that form.
Sometimes, it really feels like you are just doing pitches for new series.
If that's the case... Please go on. I have a feeling it will work out one way or another
Haha maybe one day I'll take a risk on a full new season pitch video 😅
@@Karn_EX that would be so cool! If it means anything, at least I would be happy to see something like that from you haha
Liked those lines a lot!
I wish we could see the kids and eho they are 🥲
Thank you!
Yeah me too!
Best video ever keep it up and try to read some of the comment
I think the dcg already gave us hints on maki's mega honestly. And with it kinda confirmed your line for daigo's bearmon as it infact does become grizzlymon then loaderleomon and finally baihumon. Maki gets megadramon and tapirmon too so my personal theory goes two ways: either it's the blackwargreymon that the 02 digidestined faced, with its memories wiped clean from how long it was inside of the dark ocean (where maki couldn't find it) or it could have turned into a gaiomon which honestly would have been a neat idea
I love this!
Thank you!
Good to se virus type as partners often!
I kinda hope they do an OVA going over the original Digidestined. Feels like there's a tragic story worth being told there
Thank you so much!
a while ago I came up with something similar
my lines for Zhuqiaomon, Azulongmon, and Baihumon were Identical
for Ebonwumon I went with an earth theme with Sunarizamon and Tortoisemon
my Tapiermon line went to Unimon to match Tapiermon's theme and Megadramon's wings, and BellStarmon as the mega beacuse the woman who shot divermon's with a bazooka deserves to have a Musketeer, Additionally all 4 have a simmaler faceplate
Fanglongmon is awesome. It was my first Ultra in ReArise and is still my Partner even if I have stronger digimon.
From the shadows, the originals are Agumon, Patamon, Biyomon, Tentomon and Gabumon, which to me means that the originals were Ty and Kari's dad, Matt and TK's mum and Dad, Sora's mum and Izzy's dad, Matt and TK's dad knew Gabumon and we never got to meet Izzy's dad so we don't know if he had any connection.
Those original shadows aren't canon really, just pictorial examples of the original kids
Tbh I would love if you did this again but gave some of them custom digimon, or even just a custom line in general. Bearmon has a very clear line, but I would love to see a custom champion for tapirmon, and new rookie and champion digimon for the other three digidestined
Can u make a video of what fusion evolutions and “mega” evolutions would look like for the rest of the digimon frontier kids
Rearise gave the evolutions chains with the release of the 4 holy beast banner. The orochi came from a kamemon which I thought was good but it just took orochimon out of the lineage for a bit because it goes turtle, reptile man, snake and then tortoise lol but the fanglongmon evolution I think would have been cool too or it would have been an opener to creating a new type of holy beast. Imagine a holy dinosaur or holy elephant, just because the elephant is considered a diety in some places, as opposed to the dragon and holy beast we have now.
ReArise is not canon to Adventure tho lol
@@Karn_EX I know but they had some good figures for them? I really wanted something for tapirmon along the Mammothmon evolution type cause if they wanted they could have made it reginal based qith tapirs and elephants sharing environmental regions so like a Buddhist/ eastern mammal humanoid utilized skullmammothmon and mega digivolving to a dark priest or shaman like holy digimon. And I only say it like that since skullmammothmon is still vaccine type but a violent type
Ok the reason for Orochimon is that the Northern Sovereign isn't just a turtle, with it being a 2 headed Snake inside of a Turtle Shell that grows a tree. Ebonwumon fuses the Turtle Data from Kamemon & Dinohyumon with Orochimon's Legendary Monster Data with the source Orochi being described as having plants growing on its back. I also tend to prefer Tapirmon becoming Mammothmon.
@@bookmew1081 now I can see the correlation , I didn't realize Ebonwumon was technically a chimera in sense I thought it was strictly turtle
Funny enough rearize did a gacha with the 4 and your spot on with the Zuqiaomon,Ebonwumon had Kamemon Dinohyumon and orochimon can’t remember who Azulongmon
Yeah, I should have mentioned it really. ReArise definitely made a good attempt at the lines but some of them just don't work and the banner isn't Adventure canon
I wanna say, beside those two from Tri , Cody's father, Oikawa, and Matt & TK's dad round them out.
Best video ever keep it up and i am 1 minute late best video and thank you for reading my comments 😁😁😁
Aww no worries thanks for watching!
@@Karn_EX Thanks 😊
I like the lines digimon rearise gave to the sovereigns, though tapirmon/megadramon doesn't become fanglongmon
They're not bad. I personally think Dinohumon is a misstep
Japanese usually make Dinossaurs evolve into Dragons because for them, they are actually dragons from the beginning. The Kanji for the word Dinossaur in japanese language reads "Kyōryū", that means "Fearsome Dragon", do they're dragons from the begining to them. I happen to know this because of Dorbickmon's card, that says he can DigiXros with any digimon with the kanji ryū in it's type, can dinossaur has it, ceratopian has it been "Tsunoryu" or "Horned Dragon", Plessiosaur is "Shucho Ryu" or "Boss Dragon" and so on. So it makes sense for them, that dinossaurs could evolve into dragons, if for them, they are already dragons evolving into stronger dragons, or humanoid dragons in cases like Dorbickmon, WarGreymon and so many others.
I’ll be honest, I COMPLETELY forgot these kids were even a thing. I never finished watching Tri, and basically learned from an outside source about the villains, and then I lost interest in wanting to finish watching them.
That being said, this video was very interesting and something I never really considered thinking about since, outside of Tri, these kids didn’t play a huge factor in much. Though I do like a lot of your selections for Rookies. That one Dinosaur one with no arms(who’s name I ALREADY forgot….) looked both adorable and ferocious. Would love to see him get more love.
Great video as always Karn! I haven’t really been in the holiday spirit this year despite a lot of other exciting stuff going on for me, and these videos just constantly cheer me up. So thank you.
I think personally you could slap ophanimon and Seraphimon on there as the holy digimon protectors or switch out them for a Lucemon Holy mode and Dominomon
Cool video
Funny you should make this vid shortly after I rewatch Tri and wonder what champion would link Bearmon to Loaderleomon.
Hah nice hope you like my picks!
Why do the Soverign have extra Digicores?
I agree with everything except the hueglongmon part see megadramon doesn't exactly Evo to such a thing since Huanglongmon classified as a ultra in some cases thank to the pendulum z an some vpet being consider digivices in some mangas so if we're saying that it kinda doesn't hold up in all respect I think the champion is understandable mostly I agree with the Megidramon Evo
I think that all of your choices were good.
Thanks!
I'd be more concerned and I would like them to explain why these digital destined wind up getting Mega Partners from the start and to this day those megas don't D digivolve meanwhile the new digidestine erra is like essentially all but rookie and base form and D digivolve easily
I know I'm 2 months late on this but, I have a feeling that Matt and TK's dad was one of the original digidestined since he knows about Gabumon even though Matt never told his dad about Gabumon.
I have zero doubt that Maki's evo line was Tapirmon -> Monochromon -> Megadramon -> Fanglongmon. In the Tri flashback it seemed like the four Sovereigns were trying to combine their power and evolve Megadramon into Fanglongmon, but Maki and Megadramon's bond wasn't strong enough to pull it off.
I love Deltamon 😭❤
Nice plot of origin i agree. Makes you wonder tho what was the evil they had defend from. Cause you no they was ones that created the prophecy of tai group i still think jini a big part of how the origin became.
it interesting that four dark masters fought 4 holy beasts.
fanglongmon vs apocalymon
You were spot on with Hippogriffmon coming from Muchomon, just not Kakotorimon but rather its look alike (I don't remember the name)
I said Akatorimon :)
@@Karn_EX My bad. I guess it's been a while since I've seen Akatorimon coloring.
In-training through Mega for the Originals in my opinion
Wanyamon/Bearmon/Gryzmon/Loader Leomon/Baihumon
Tokomon/Tapirmon/Tyranomon/Megadramon
Koromon/Snow Agumon/Allomon/Orochimon/Ebonwumon
Caprimon/Gotsumon/Monochromon/Triceramon/Azulongmon
Pyocomon/Muchomon/Saberdramon/Hippogryphomon/Zhuqiaomon
I thought for a second you were going to give Maki a Millenniumon
That would’ve been crazy
For Maki I really like the theory that Maki's Digimon was in fact a wrong evolution and that's why it died instead of becoming Fangwumon, I don't know if I spelled that wrong. What I think happened is Maki was unable to unlock her crest for some reason so instead her Digimon digivolved into a different path then it was meant to, when the Soverinets attacked it what I believe they were doing was give it their powers so it could digivolve into Fangwumon had it been in it's true ultimate form. In my personally fanmade story of the original digidestined Maki's crest was selflessness, she and the others have their own unique crests that no one else had. In the story Maki selfishly keeps Tapirmon from fighting because she's afraid to see him hurt so Tapirmon has to digivolve into a different path then the holy form he was meant to just to survive, in the story he is the only one to reach his mega form since the others only reach mega as the Soverinets in his "wrong" path he becomes Machinedramon. In the story the reason the Soverinets lose to the dark masters and were sealed away was because they were fated to win only if all five of them became their holy forms. In the end of the story it's revealed the whole story was the Soverinets telling Tai and the other adventure digidestined their story and it ends with the sad lines "There was supposed to be five." Had Maki been able to unlock whatever her crest was there likely would have been five holy digimon and perhaps Maki wouldn't have gone her dark path.
I find it really cool that the original digidestined got to be paired with digimons that would become the four Holy beasts. Too bad for me I have zero attachment to the kids x'D
Based on the BT9 cards, Maki's champion could've been Monochromon; either wsy, really hope the Tri kids get more info in the future
I know that your Zhuquiaomon-line is exactly the same as in Rearise, because I hatched a Muchomon which may digivolve to it, but what about the others? Are they the same as well?
Nope, some are similar but I don't like Dinohumon for Orochimon, for example
You are right with two of them
ReArise is not canon/right
I heard a theory somewhere that mabye Maki’s partner didn’t evolve to mega because she caused it to dark digivolution to megadramon
That was probably what happened, although even if she Dark Digivolved that probably would have been helpful in defeating the Dark Masters. Which path do you think her Tapirmon should have taken? I usually think of Apemon, Mammothmon, & SkullMamothmon when I think of Tapirmon digivolving.
@@bookmew1081 yeah I’ve always seen tapirmon taking a more holy route in digivolution
Deltamon is a bad ass partner
I want to know what you think about the digimon appli monsters universe side story?
As much as I love Baluchimon as a Champion for Tapirmon, I genuinely think Himekawa's Tapirmon would become Monochromon, who would become Megadramon, because there's a Tapirmon in ReArise with Monochromon as its Champion and Megadramon as its Ultimate. I do love the theory that he would become Fanglongmon, but I honestly think Fanglongmon would be more like an "Ultra" form for it, so its regular Mega could be something like Megidramon, Spinomon, or Dinorexmon. Also, even though they ignored the silhouettes in tri., which is fine, I like the idea of the Hippogriffomon Digivolving from Unimon, coming from the Patamon in the silhouette. Honestly, my favorite Champion for Triceramon is probably Tuskmon, but I don't have a good Rookie for that suggestion, maybe the Agumon in the silhouette.
Every member of the original Digidestined has been confirmed about a year ago but the fan wiki has not been updated as of yet. Spoilers to anyone who reads further on.
Here are the lines-
Muchomon -> Akatorimon -> Hipogriffomon -> Zhuqaiomon
Bearmon -> Grizzmon -> Loderliomon -> Baihumon
Elecmon (Violet) -> Tuskmon -> Triceramon -> Azulongmon
Kamemon -> Dinohumon -> Orochimon -> Ebonwumon
Also, I remember hearing somewhere that Maki's Tapirmon's Mega form is most likely Machinedramon.
No they weren't. These were lines created for the Digimon ReArise banner. It may be a SUGGESTION for their lines but is not defacto 100% confirmed Adventure canon.
I think Matt’s dad and tai’s mom and dad are one of the other digidestined
Weren’t these lines confirmed in the game re:arise?
Elecmon (purple)->Tuskmon->Triceramon
Muchumon->Akatorimon->Hippogriffmon
Kamemon->Dinohumon->Orochimon
Bearmon->Grizzmon->Loaderliomon
ReArise is not canon to Adventure. It was simply proposed as Evolutions lines by the ReArise devs
Homeostasis is annoying you should totally do q vid on it
Wasn't there a moment is digimon 02 where we see Ken went to the digital world as a young kid (og Takeru/Kairi age) and was with other digidestined then?
Maybe Ken was originally the 6th of these peeps 5. Or maybe there have been more sets of digidestined before and after Tai and the gang than we know.
I don't think the ages match up but fun idea!
@@Karn_EX just looking it up, he was with ryu fighting millenniumon apparently 🤔
gaossmon is my favourite child level for monochromon!
It's such a cool little dude!
actually, why didnt he use the outline rookie digimons? im kinda confused on that
What about alternative partners to them? Like since megidramon was mentioned, Guilmon is an alternative partner for Maki…
Also considering the they became the sovereigns what is the differential between like that and the Digimon the supposed to be at the center of the world longwangmon
Have you discussed what you would want as your partner Digimon as well as every evolution?
Not like *properly* but Fanbeemon would be my partner for sure. Maybe soon we can do a video going over Fanbeemon, Hiraethmon and Wyrmmon
@@Karn_EX I'd be down. I've been thinking about my own line and it's not as cut and dry as I thought it would be
Shouldn't Bearmons champion form be leomon since it's ultimate was loaderleomon?