You can either use 5511 commanders or epics. Kusinoki, Keira are really good archer epics I’ve used in SOC and are just as good as 5511. Sun tsu, baibars, and æthel are the same value.
If you go 5511 and the other players have maxed commanders, You will have negative trade. And you will just fill your hospitals. It's better to have two Strong Marches than having 5 Bad marches.
Ram comes out the same second ALL SoC archer coms are out. So there is no "rotation". Ram YSG is not the ultimate meta pair, Ram is very outdated at this point. Artemisia is not the best pair for tomy. Nebu is one of the best open field coms for archers, it is not just a rally lead. Armani is a bad option for archers, since she needs to be expertised to work properly with Artemisia. Boudica Amani is NOT a great synergy. Both want to be primary coms to be efficient. Both lack march speed.Both are practically immune to silence (what a waste!) (boudica 80% chance to get rid off it). How in the world is that a "great synergy". So all in all your investment guide is not thought through at all. Maybe talk with natives in 2500 and ask them how many heads they had available at what point of time. Give a real guide on how far people should invest into a commander to get most of the benefits. The only worth you provided was to go through and see when each new commander was implemented into the game. Maybe also take the time and read through the archer dc before spreading this nonsense to the next generation of archers. PS: Nowadays it is not even a good idea to be pure archer (or pure any troop type) anymore. Since EVERYONE should have Scipio (so not worth it to have gilga in lineup) and Nevsky (so no worth for Ran) in their lineup as well. Also it is very hard to get enough purple equipments specialized if you are just going for one troop type by your first kvk4.
Amanitore and Boudica is a very good partner, especially if you do not have ability to max all commanders , sorry but I disagree with you , you are simply only looking at 1 skill out of all very narrow minded mindset on commander pairings. Not everyone can max all commanders. Amanitore is only immune to silence but not all controlled efffect this where boudica comes in. This makes a tanky/ dmg march. So tell me what is your pair with your artemisa ? and what is your pair for tomy? Your missing many details when you are sharing your opinions. It seems that your logic is you have all commanders and they are all max, Please share us your insight on all archer pairings you will do.
I have ysg on my second account 2111, wheel of fortune is just heartbreaking, saving up my alliance credits for a passport then probably gonna migrate to an older kingdom or a younger kingdom because my current one is around 120 days old
hello shinci, this is not connected to archers. I have 5551 alex and 5511 scipio. Im really planning to expertise scipio and leave alex to 5551. but what do you think is a better decision, to expertise alex first or scipio?
انا أختلف معك في شيء واحد..أغلب لاعبين فري تو بلاي يستغرقون سبع شهور او أكثر للانتهاء من قائد واحد-والآن لا نستطيع العودة الى حرب الممالك2 لهذا يجب ألا ننصح الناس ب يي سونغ غي لأنه بمجرد أن ينتهي منه سوف يدخل الى موسم الفتح4 ولن يفعل شيء بالميدان لأنه سيقابل الوحوش مثل جوان يو و نبوخذ نصر الى آخره..😁
Huh. With how every recommends using YSG and Aeth, I'm kind of interested in archers now? I played infantry a lot, everyone telling me cavalry is for whales, and archer is rising in popularity, somehow?
I I’m a low spender and I’m using and I’m a 5551 Nevsky with 5511 mina and I’m using 5511 Boudica with a 5511 ysg. And I don’t know if I should e vested in other commanders btw. I been thinking of using ram with ysg before boudica came.
All SOC commanders come out when you hit SOC. Half MGE only, half are wheel only. MGE and wheel come every 2 weeks and are either inf, cav, leadership, or archer. ALL commanders of that troop type are available during the spin or MGE. If you play kvk, you can unlock ANY commander with sovereign keys RIGHT AWAY.
El Cid player here. Thutmose completely overwrites El Cid so choose Thut (first). It’s worth waiting for SOC. I don’t like tommyris (weak and situational debuff), Gilgamesh (5511 commander only), amanitore (weak open field), El Cid (weak), and Edward.
bro, im an archer fan ever since. this is my first SOC and im stuck on what commanders should i get and expertise first. Now, I have Boudica and YSG in expertise and this is my main march. I have Cyrus and Artemisia both in 1/1/1/1. Im trying to get my 2nd archer march.
Can’t believe he mentioned a f2p to get garrison commanders. It would have worked if equipments weren’t a thing. But why would u ever want an f2p to garrison without top gear? Please guys do the opposite. F2p do not invest in garrison comms.
@@Shinchi42 sure but one should never build around the idea to defend city. regardless of the comm f2p die if rally touches city. the idea is to never get rallied without an "if"
I said , its a better option rather than going for a conquering commander . always best choice is openfield then if you are going to choose between garrison or city rally commander go for garrison it has more utility. In SOC players some of the very well played F2P can take rallies as they are grown to have better gear and more troops. Im not sure what playing style you are looking at but at this point in 1412 I have seen f2p with almost same gear as me since i stopped spending and they keep grinding. so you need to look at late game stages. Not all f2p dies on rally, there are f2p now that are strong especially in a imperium kingdom
Maybe when i explaied things it was not clear, or im not sure if you watched the entire video to understand, but I will try to be clear next time. I should also clarify that when I talk about f2p , these are the people who grind a lot and traditional f2p who started from day 1 in new kingdom
@@solspark166 bro he is right. Garrison commanders are more like tankey. They don't die fast. Of course a commander will perform well at expertise... And theirs no IF in getting rellied. I am ftp and got zeroed 3 different times lost around 1500k r4 together.
wow best Archery is Boudica by far and YSG !!! Ramses and Gallgy is no good since XY and Prime came out . and for Garrison is only good for WALES since you never use those commender wast of sculture .
Cyrus is not that great, everyone has their opinion , doesnt mean he is correct either :) There are many archers far more suprior than cyrus. He has his own opinion his life choices.
@@realjohnlove Yes but when Nevsky is great commander you cant say he is bad commander! You need to tell the truth, Cyrus has 2 great debuffs even better than Tommy. Keep your opinion for yourself
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Nebu is a must have for f2p, one of the best commanders in the game for everyone, at least 5511 for openfield.
if you are f2p at this point you should be able to max out commnaders, the rotation of commanders will allow you some time to recover
I wouldn’t recommend 5511 on any commander for F2P or P2w or low spender or whatever spender. 5511 is a waste, period!
@@kingpalafox1045 Agreed, almost with any commander you should be going for expertise, sure 5511 can be ok for a while
You can either use 5511 commanders or epics. Kusinoki, Keira are really good archer epics I’ve used in SOC and are just as good as 5511. Sun tsu, baibars, and æthel are the same value.
If you go 5511 and the other players have maxed commanders, You will have negative trade. And you will just fill your hospitals. It's better to have two Strong Marches than having 5 Bad marches.
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Thank you so much Shinchi! i just made a new ACC with Archer Main :D
Ram comes out the same second ALL SoC archer coms are out. So there is no "rotation". Ram YSG is not the ultimate meta pair, Ram is very outdated at this point. Artemisia is not the best pair for tomy. Nebu is one of the best open field coms for archers, it is not just a rally lead. Armani is a bad option for archers, since she needs to be expertised to work properly with Artemisia.
Boudica Amani is NOT a great synergy. Both want to be primary coms to be efficient. Both lack march speed.Both are practically immune to silence (what a waste!) (boudica 80% chance to get rid off it). How in the world is that a "great synergy".
So all in all your investment guide is not thought through at all. Maybe talk with natives in 2500 and ask them how many heads they had available at what point of time. Give a real guide on how far people should invest into a commander to get most of the benefits. The only worth you provided was to go through and see when each new commander was implemented into the game. Maybe also take the time and read through the archer dc before spreading this nonsense to the next generation of archers.
PS: Nowadays it is not even a good idea to be pure archer (or pure any troop type) anymore. Since EVERYONE should have Scipio (so not worth it to have gilga in lineup) and Nevsky (so no worth for Ran) in their lineup as well. Also it is very hard to get enough purple equipments specialized if you are just going for one troop type by your first kvk4.
Amanitore and Boudica is a very good partner, especially if you do not have ability to max all commanders , sorry but I disagree with you , you are simply only looking at 1 skill out of all very narrow minded mindset on commander pairings. Not everyone can max all commanders. Amanitore is only immune to silence but not all controlled efffect this where boudica comes in. This makes a tanky/ dmg march.
So tell me what is your pair with your artemisa ? and what is your pair for tomy? Your missing many details when you are sharing your opinions.
It seems that your logic is you have all commanders and they are all max, Please share us your insight on all archer pairings you will do.
Ram Tomy / Boudica Artemesia / Nebu YSG
I have ysg on my second account 2111, wheel of fortune is just heartbreaking, saving up my alliance credits for a passport then probably gonna migrate to an older kingdom or a younger kingdom because my current one is around 120 days old
Suggestion for f2p
Get: Ysg-Rameses-Nebu-Boudica-Artemisia-Cyrus-Henry
Avoid: Tomyris-Gilga-Amani-Elcid-Edward
Shinchi vids are always entertaining
What does versatility thing mean
hello shinci, this is not connected to archers. I have 5551 alex and 5511 scipio. Im really planning to expertise scipio and leave alex to 5551. but what do you think is a better decision, to expertise alex first or scipio?
hey shinchi, what is the best civilisation for archers? and what commanders should i focus on first on the preparation stage of the kingdom?
Ottomans easy best civ for archers
انا أختلف معك في شيء واحد..أغلب لاعبين فري تو بلاي يستغرقون سبع شهور او أكثر للانتهاء من قائد واحد-والآن لا نستطيع العودة الى حرب الممالك2 لهذا يجب ألا ننصح الناس ب يي سونغ غي لأنه بمجرد أن ينتهي منه سوف يدخل الى موسم الفتح4 ولن يفعل شيء بالميدان لأنه سيقابل الوحوش مثل جوان يو و نبوخذ نصر الى آخره..😁
As a Ramesses enthusiast this gives me peace of mind
Huh. With how every recommends using YSG and Aeth, I'm kind of interested in archers now? I played infantry a lot, everyone telling me cavalry is for whales, and archer is rising in popularity, somehow?
I I’m a low spender and I’m using and I’m a 5551 Nevsky with 5511 mina and I’m using 5511 Boudica with a 5511 ysg. And I don’t know if I should e vested in other commanders btw. I been thinking of using ram with ysg before boudica came.
i would focus on expertising boudica first
I’m on vip 10 tho prob need to get to vip 12 or 14
Could you please share your insights on what would be your 5 March and 7 March murderball recommendation for archers main?
I would never have 7 marches, but I can talk about this
@@Shinchi42 No I actually meant like combination of archer, inf and cavs but mainly 2-3 marches arches
YES I AM F2P THAX SHINCHI$@ I KNOW YSG< ARTEMISIA AND OTHER
Shinchi boy malakas. 💚
newb, is it advantageous to specialize in one troop type?
All SOC commanders come out when you hit SOC. Half MGE only, half are wheel only. MGE and wheel come every 2 weeks and are either inf, cav, leadership, or archer. ALL commanders of that troop type are available during the spin or MGE. If you play kvk, you can unlock ANY commander with sovereign keys RIGHT AWAY.
El Cid player here. Thutmose completely overwrites El Cid so choose Thut (first). It’s worth waiting for SOC.
I don’t like tommyris (weak and situational debuff), Gilgamesh (5511 commander only), amanitore (weak open field), El Cid (weak), and Edward.
Im not sure what talent tree you do with amanitore , but mine is pretty good on field.
Best eq for Artemisia?
Shinchi the true archer gods.
Not early but not late,waiting for infantry version
coming soon
@@Shinchi42 awesome!
bro, im an archer fan ever since.
this is my first SOC and im stuck on what commanders should i get and expertise first.
Now, I have Boudica and YSG in expertise and this is my main march.
I have Cyrus and Artemisia both in 1/1/1/1.
Im trying to get my 2nd archer march.
i'd avoid cyrus,
boudica is the meta now
Amanitore looks tasty
can you give investment advice for those who play mixed units for f2p ? @Shinchi42
I have artemesia lvl 60 & Ysg lvl42
I wish you did more with mid spenders
I don’t see the cavalry investment guide 🥺
make video pls which looks like best 1,2,3,4,5 archers marches,
i mean ofc about bring 1,2...bcs soem people want use 1 archer marche like me and some 2 or 3 or all ;)
Can’t believe he mentioned a f2p to get garrison commanders. It would have worked if equipments weren’t a thing. But why would u ever want an f2p to garrison without top gear? Please guys do the opposite. F2p do not invest in garrison comms.
Silly garrison for your base., not flags or fortress.
@@Shinchi42 sure but one should never build around the idea to defend city. regardless of the comm f2p die if rally touches city. the idea is to never get rallied without an "if"
I said , its a better option rather than going for a conquering commander . always best choice is openfield then if you are going to choose between garrison or city rally commander go for garrison it has more utility. In SOC players some of the very well played F2P can take rallies as they are grown to have better gear and more troops. Im not sure what playing style you are looking at but at this point in 1412 I have seen f2p with almost same gear as me since i stopped spending and they keep grinding. so you need to look at late game stages.
Not all f2p dies on rally, there are f2p now that are strong especially in a imperium kingdom
Maybe when i explaied things it was not clear, or im not sure if you watched the entire video to understand, but I will try to be clear next time. I should also clarify that when I talk about f2p , these are the people who grind a lot and traditional f2p who started from day 1 in new kingdom
@@solspark166 bro he is right. Garrison commanders are more like tankey. They don't die fast. Of course a commander will perform well at expertise...
And theirs no IF in getting rellied. I am ftp and got zeroed 3 different times lost around 1500k r4 together.
HEY SHINCHI42 DOES EDWARDS OF WOODSTOCKS IS GOOD FOR F2P CAUSE I KNOW ITS KIND OF BAD FOR ME I DON"T EVEN HAVE ARCHER FULL MARCH
No , as said in the video avoid him if u can
@@Shinchi42 ok thx
11.48..... Say what El Cid or El shit iam confused 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
An archer expert with no Nebu 😅 he is considered the best after Boudica
Having all comanders means $$ , you dont need to have everything ":)
how about Thutmose? should i ignore him.
Kinda unless ur a whale in kvk 1
Top 10
What about infantry ?
Charles-Richard-Alex-Scipio
Guan yu
Probably tomorrow or the next day
i love infantry
alex , guan yu, scipio
wow best Archery is Boudica by far and YSG !!! Ramses and Gallgy is no good since XY and Prime came out . and for Garrison is only good for WALES since you never use those commender wast of sculture .
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Hi
No f2p should EVER invest in archers!!!
depends, its just a game. Play as you want
Tons of MGE commanders😭😭😭
Ram is outdated nowadays, better to get nebu
By the cycles you should be able to get both techinically
Chisgule said Cyrus the Great is his top 3 archer commanders and you say spender and f2p must avoid him hahaha
Cyrus is not that great, everyone has their opinion , doesnt mean he is correct either :)
There are many archers far more suprior than cyrus. He has his own opinion his life choices.
Different users have different opinions & experience.
@@realjohnlove Yes but when Nevsky is great commander you cant say he is bad commander! You need to tell the truth, Cyrus has 2 great debuffs even better than Tommy. Keep your opinion for yourself
Hey shinchi give me 1 march of archer for kvk 1
YSG / Herman or kosunoki, who gets 60 should take lead.
@@Shinchi42 no man
@@Shinchi42 for kraken 😂 u think im gonna use epics?
@@Tribute22 Herman is still good
@@BABA_YAGA_911 tell me a kraken archer march
Waiting for Cavs 🥱
Coming also :)
Hi
Hi
@@Shinchi42 how are you