Hearing the story of the Passenger Pigeon is as tragic as it is scary. To think that animals we commonly see and take for granted could be wiped out in such a relatively short time is harrowing.
Supposedly, it was a plague and they were never that insanely high in numbers. It is like how there are sometimes plagues of locusts and then they go to nothing. If we really could kill that many birds in a very little bit of time than how come in America we can't kill all of the invasive starlings.
Horrifyingly another "passenger pigeon" already exist in today world. Certain insects, amphibians, birds, and small mammals that just decades ago are never get attention because it just so common now become very rare
I actually don’t think that the passenger pigeon is extinct. I think a small group actually survived and even occasionally pop up out in front of people all the time but the thing is everyone thinks that they are extinct and thus don’t pay attention. I know for a fact that I’ve seen a bird that looked exactly like the passenger pigeon on four separate occasions and all in different locations. It had the same coloration and was about the same size as well. I even took photos once but couldn’t figure out how to send them to a website that could verify the photos I took of the bird.
I never comprehended the true scale of 5 billion birds dying. I heard about the chestnuts dying but didnt realize the bird dying played parts in it, in addition to almost all wildlife across the nation given just how important they were
Well, I should say that the Chestnut is dying because of a blight that's going through the population. But it's hard to say if the passenger pigeon would have played a part in helping increase the numbers of trees or keeping the population healthy. We'll never know.
@@all.about.nature1987 yeah, i know about the blight, but it’s easy to see why it would be even harder to recover if 5 billion seed carries are no more
Something he didn't touch on is that since passenger pigeons also ate a lot of acorns from oak trees, when the birds disappeared there was apparently a boom in squirrel populations to fill the vacuum, with that came a rise in tick populations, and with that may have come a mass amount of Lyme disease infections. The American settlers have perhaps spelled their descendants' doom through chronic illness as a trickle-down effect of overhunting.
@@Raptorworld22 The cause and effect of things we seldom give ourselves time to learn before we start Destroying. Everything is interrelated on this planet! the only animal to see self differently/apart from the Whole is me and you. We fancy ourselves as smart/Godly,, we are actually slow learners, bordering on Stupid.
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The loss of all of these species is a monumental tragedy. I read about the fate of the passenger pigeon 50 years ago and it's haunted me ever since. The thought of Martha, alone in her aviary, the last of her species, should be a warning to us all yet humanity recklessly continues to hasten the destruction of innumerable species, even those that haven't even been discovered.
@@andrewgan557 Yes - we're so complacent about our existence. We had a wake up call Re our vulnerability as a species with Covid, another much bigger one with climate change and we've largely ignored both.
Mid 70's while in HS I happened on a book which I read from front to back, multiple times. VANISHED SPECIES. The book turned me into a lover of nature. I purposely retired to Central America so I can enjoy what's left of her nature. "I went to the woods because I wish to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life and see if I could not learn what it had to teach; and not when I came to die discover I had not lived." LIVING THE DREAM!
I'm so glad my algorithm recommended your channel. I've been binging your vids and I can't get enough! Keep up the excellent work, friend! I'm excited for new content 😊
Please do a video on animals that have no formal conservation program but need them, or a video on 10 Lesser known animal conservation efforts (aka greater Prarie restoration project).
Watched your video without even realising how few views you had! Definitely earned my like and comment, keep up the great work and you’ll be sure to catch that algorithm!
Imagine there are many species existed in such a small area in many parts of the world that has gone extinct and leave no trace of it , and we cant documented it 😢
We are experiencing a catastrophic loss of reptile and amphibian diversity in the state of florida. Common species like the Florida Kingsnake and Indigo Snake have almost completely disappeared from the wild. Many such cases
The American Chestnut tree decline to near extinction was due to a blight brought to the US on the Japanese Chestnut tree. That would make a great video.
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The passenger pigeon no doubt took a hit in terms of hunting during the civil war to provide protein to the immense armies that needed food. However, one thing that is incorrect in this video is that the American Chestnut took a hit not from the lack of pigeons but the Chinese Chestnut blight from trees that were imported here. The blight completely destroyed the trees here and there is a correlation of the trees going almost extinct and the Passenger Pigeon at the same time period. There was plenty of habitat available in the Smokey Mountains for the birds but their food source was gone from here and North America. At one time the American Chestnut tree accounted for every one in four trees in our hardwood forest. Another Chinese virus imported like some others I know. If they would have had their food source they would still be here today just like the ducks and geese that are here that were once commercially hunted as well by the millions.
Yes, I have read that the passenger pigeons were going though a massive boom time when the flocks were in the billions and it likely wouldn't have been sustained, even if they had been left alone. The article said it was likely that they were experiencing a population crash anyway due to the sheer size of the flocks. Human hunting and the removal of forests only served to exacerbate it.
The passenger pigeon thing makes me mad, but I am not as angry as I used to be. I read an article that explained that the billions-large flocks would probably not have been sustainable. Yes, humans brought about their demise, but even if we jadm't messed with them so much, the idea of billions being around forever wasn't likely. They were going through a "boom period" during that time, and probably experienced a population crash right when humans were aggresively hunting them. Even if they had been left alone, the flock sizes would lkely have dipped as low as 300,000 or less -- still a lot of birds, but not THAT many, comparitively. Many creatures go through booms and busts, but this situation probably wasn't understood in that day. (Would YOU have realized it or believed it when it took 3 days for the flock to pass overhead?) Of all the species up for de-extinction, I think passenger pigeons are among the most important. They helped keep the forests healthy, and more than a century later, we're seeing the problems now due to their absence.
A creature that isn't pretty, cute, or harmless to humans doesn't mean we shouldn't care about it. Yes, locusts are gross, ugly, and inconvenient, and yet they're important to the environment. Proper management, assistance to farmers, etc. can help if crops are destroyed. As we saw from the video, another creature went extinct partly because of the loss of those particular locusts. Tigers and wolves might be cuter than bugs, but tigers and wolves eat animals that feed on bugs. All of them are important, even the uglier ones.
I would love to see you talk about cryptozoology. Especially about sightings of extinct creatures like dinosaurs or the Japanese wolf and sightings that might have been just a living animal (Referencing to venezuela's spider monkey regarding the François de Loys discovery)
i know that was vague- but i hope that makes sense. i am addicted to your videos. seriously everytime you release something new i immediately rearrange my plans for the day to watch it.
'Daww this video reminds me of visiting natural history and wildlife museums as a kid.. Thanks for this, bro. It's really sad how bad we've messed up the planet up to this point. The world's had to say goodbye to so many beautiful species, and that bums me out. I hope we can do better by earth someday- and other planets too, if we ever reach them. Appreciate your work, homie. Keep going. This touched my heart. ❤
And do what, EXTINCT them again? you know collectors will want to collect. My Chinese friends would probably pay top dollars to eat some, in the name of medicinal,,,.
LOOK IN THE MIRROR and the central answer will look back at you. Take a deep breath and confront your/our evil twin; it's never us who do ugly things of course but rather a part of ourselves. Like the comedian said about the guy with 8 personalities, "NOT SURE WHICH OF YOU COMMITED THE CRIME, BUT YOU'RE ALL GONA DO THE TIME".
Wonder if Europeans over hunting of passengers pigeon also done to deny the native tribes an important food source like what was done to bison, pretty low thing to do.
I guess we killed off everything on planet earth.... how did we kill the dinosaurs? How did we kill when we weren't here? Blaming man on everything is not working on me!
Did you watch the video? Who blamed humans for all extinctions? I spoke about 4 species that went extinct, and only two of them had direct correlations to human-induced extinction. You're welcome to research the extinction of these species yourself. Denying that humans are the main contributors to modern extinction rates is extremely ignorant.
They try to come up with all sorts of scientific reasons why the locust is gone. The real story is the swarm was ravaging some Christian settlers who prayed to Jesus to save them. The swarm flew to a glacier and they all froze to death.
Your savage Christian devil worship is all wrong you wish death upon the fellow children of the Earth… peace loving god my 4ss, yous were always savages, killing in the name of greed and jealousy throughout their reign of terror, you bring hell to those who know not of it Devils!
With all due respect, no. Long term management of wild stock is a better strategy for feeding humans in the long run. Hunting everything to extinction is short-sighted and irresponsible. Also, this isn't a matter of not being able to adapt. Human-induced extinctions often happen so fast that a species cannot have sufficient time needed (tens of millions of years) to adapt.
Hearing the story of the Passenger Pigeon is as tragic as it is scary. To think that animals we commonly see and take for granted could be wiped out in such a relatively short time is harrowing.
Supposedly, it was a plague and they were never that insanely high in numbers. It is like how there are sometimes plagues of locusts and then they go to nothing. If we really could kill that many birds in a very little bit of time than how come in America we can't kill all of the invasive starlings.
Horrifyingly another "passenger pigeon" already exist in today world. Certain insects, amphibians, birds, and small mammals that just decades ago are never get attention because it just so common now become very rare
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 We are some wicked animals! we are among the few who kills JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT!
Bless our collective hearts!
I actually don’t think that the passenger pigeon is extinct. I think a small group actually survived and even occasionally pop up out in front of people all the time but the thing is everyone thinks that they are extinct and thus don’t pay attention. I know for a fact that I’ve seen a bird that looked exactly like the passenger pigeon on four separate occasions and all in different locations. It had the same coloration and was about the same size as well. I even took photos once but couldn’t figure out how to send them to a website that could verify the photos I took of the bird.
@@kenthuang436do you still have the photos
I never comprehended the true scale of 5 billion birds dying. I heard about the chestnuts dying but didnt realize the bird dying played parts in it, in addition to almost all wildlife across the nation given just how important they were
Well, I should say that the Chestnut is dying because of a blight that's going through the population. But it's hard to say if the passenger pigeon would have played a part in helping increase the numbers of trees or keeping the population healthy. We'll never know.
@@all.about.nature1987 yeah, i know about the blight, but it’s easy to see why it would be even harder to recover if 5 billion seed carries are no more
Something he didn't touch on is that since passenger pigeons also ate a lot of acorns from oak trees, when the birds disappeared there was apparently a boom in squirrel populations to fill the vacuum, with that came a rise in tick populations, and with that may have come a mass amount of Lyme disease infections.
The American settlers have perhaps spelled their descendants' doom through chronic illness as a trickle-down effect of overhunting.
Oh, the consequences of our collective stupidities, we upset the apple cart wherever we land. DEMON species we are ladies and gentleman !!
@@Raptorworld22 The cause and effect of things we seldom give ourselves time to learn before we start Destroying.
Everything is interrelated on this planet! the only animal to see self differently/apart from the Whole is me and you.
We fancy ourselves as smart/Godly,, we are actually slow learners, bordering on Stupid.
Your channel deserves a lot more traffic for how well made these videos are. Research, topics, video production, & quality are top notch! Really well done all around. Thanks for making awesome content!
I really appreciate your comment! It has been months of work, but my videos are finally getting some views.
Thanks for watching!
@@all.about.nature1987 Congrats!
Have you condidered making a video about the extinction of the QUAGGA?
The loss of all of these species is a monumental tragedy. I read about the fate of the passenger pigeon 50 years ago and it's haunted me ever since. The thought of Martha, alone in her aviary, the last of her species, should be a warning to us all yet humanity recklessly continues to hasten the destruction of innumerable species, even those that haven't even been discovered.
It might even happen to us one day. 7 to 8 billion and then one day just disappeared.
@@andrewgan557 Yes - we're so complacent about our existence. We had a wake up call Re our vulnerability as a species with Covid, another much bigger one with climate change and we've largely ignored both.
Mid 70's while in HS I happened on a book which I read from front to back, multiple times. VANISHED SPECIES. The book turned me into a lover of nature.
I purposely retired to Central America so I can enjoy what's left of her nature.
"I went to the woods because I wish to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life and see if I could not learn what it had to teach; and not when I came to die discover I had not lived."
LIVING THE DREAM!
The passenger pigeon was the buffalo of the sky.
We took out both! bless our hearts!
@@user-qu4ey5yy3f Nah. We still have buffalo.
@@user-qu4ey5yy3f Ok, and?
I'm so glad my algorithm recommended your channel. I've been binging your vids and I can't get enough! Keep up the excellent work, friend! I'm excited for new content 😊
Please do a video on animals that have no formal conservation program but need them, or a video on 10 Lesser known animal conservation efforts (aka greater Prarie restoration project).
Yeah I hope he does. Stuff like bats of all kinds, and the red wolf, are lesser known but still very important.
Watched your video without even realising how few views you had! Definitely earned my like and comment, keep up the great work and you’ll be sure to catch that algorithm!
Thanks Ryan.
Most of my videos only get about 200-300 views, but I'll keep on keeping on.
The deep guilt we carry contributes to his viewership. We destroy, destroy and destroy some more.
If you make the cryptozoology video I’ll watch it. Queued your other videos already. Excellent production value and research-well done. You’ll go far.
Thanks for your comment! I appreciate it.
I'll look into make a cryptozoology video soon
Excellent as always! Keep going.
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Imagine there are many species existed in such a small area in many parts of the world that has gone extinct and leave no trace of it , and we cant documented it 😢
We are experiencing a catastrophic loss of reptile and amphibian diversity in the state of florida. Common species like the Florida Kingsnake and Indigo Snake have almost completely disappeared from the wild. Many such cases
And firefly too. They once very common everywhere. Yet now good luck finding them in farmyard or forest despite never be hunted
I’ll watch whatever video you make. Keep going!
I really like you’re content
Thanks so much!
High quality presentation.
The American Chestnut tree decline to near extinction was due to a blight brought to the US on the Japanese Chestnut tree. That would make a great video.
Great content!
Crazy how devastating they can be to animals
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Thanks man! I appreciate it and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos
Great video.I would love it if the all these animals eould still be in big numbers.
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The passenger pigeon no doubt took a hit in terms of hunting during the civil war to provide protein to the immense armies that needed food. However, one thing that is incorrect in this video is that the American Chestnut took a hit not from the lack of pigeons but the Chinese Chestnut blight from trees that were imported here. The blight completely destroyed the trees here and there is a correlation of the trees going almost extinct and the Passenger Pigeon at the same time period. There was plenty of habitat available in the Smokey Mountains for the birds but their food source was gone from here and North America. At one time the American Chestnut tree accounted for every one in four trees in our hardwood forest. Another Chinese virus imported like some others I know. If they would have had their food source they would still be here today just like the ducks and geese that are here that were once commercially hunted as well by the millions.
Yes, I have read that the passenger pigeons were going though a massive boom time when the flocks were in the billions and it likely wouldn't have been sustained, even if they had been left alone. The article said it was likely that they were experiencing a population crash anyway due to the sheer size of the flocks. Human hunting and the removal of forests only served to exacerbate it.
The passenger pigeon thing makes me mad, but I am not as angry as I used to be. I read an article that explained that the billions-large flocks would probably not have been sustainable. Yes, humans brought about their demise, but even if we jadm't messed with them so much, the idea of billions being around forever wasn't likely. They were going through a "boom period" during that time, and probably experienced a population crash right when humans were aggresively hunting them. Even if they had been left alone, the flock sizes would lkely have dipped as low as 300,000 or less -- still a lot of birds, but not THAT many, comparitively. Many creatures go through booms and busts, but this situation probably wasn't understood in that day. (Would YOU have realized it or believed it when it took 3 days for the flock to pass overhead?)
Of all the species up for de-extinction, I think passenger pigeons are among the most important. They helped keep the forests healthy, and more than a century later, we're seeing the problems now due to their absence.
I kinda don't feel too bad about the locus except for the animals that ate them
Amazing how so much is inter-dependent, mosquitoes as much as we dislike them serve as food for so many. Termites are important food source,,,.
A creature that isn't pretty, cute, or harmless to humans doesn't mean we shouldn't care about it. Yes, locusts are gross, ugly, and inconvenient, and yet they're important to the environment. Proper management, assistance to farmers, etc. can help if crops are destroyed.
As we saw from the video, another creature went extinct partly because of the loss of those particular locusts. Tigers and wolves might be cuter than bugs, but tigers and wolves eat animals that feed on bugs. All of them are important, even the uglier ones.
I would love to see you talk about cryptozoology. Especially about sightings of extinct creatures like dinosaurs or the Japanese wolf and sightings that might have been just a living animal (Referencing to venezuela's spider monkey regarding the François de Loys discovery)
i know that was vague- but i hope that makes sense. i am addicted to your videos. seriously everytime you release something new i immediately rearrange my plans for the day to watch it.
The Great Auk is another example.
'Daww this video reminds me of visiting natural history and wildlife museums as a kid.. Thanks for this, bro.
It's really sad how bad we've messed up the planet up to this point. The world's had to say goodbye to so many beautiful species, and that bums me out.
I hope we can do better by earth someday- and other planets too, if we ever reach them.
Appreciate your work, homie. Keep going. This touched my heart. ❤
When we reach other worlds, we'll do what we do here.
I always remember the line from the Matrix,
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This is why we can't have nice things
Enjoyed!
Hopefully the passenger pidgeons become de extinct in the next 10 years since theres a large de extinction project similar to tasmanian tiger
And do what, EXTINCT them again? you know collectors will want to collect. My Chinese friends would probably pay top dollars to eat some, in the name of medicinal,,,.
I swear i saw something about rediscovering the Golden frog.
Please do one on the Carolina parakeet
Check out my video on last photos of extinct animals. I cover it there.
I say you should give a cryptozoology video a try. Have any animals in mind? Or maybe you want to do the history on the subject?
My next video is going to be about modern day dinosaur sightings. Script already in the works!
I wonder what passenger pigeon tasted like? That's the real tragedy of animals going extinct
I seems surreal that we don't really know what caused some of these spieces to go extinct.
LOOK IN THE MIRROR and the central answer will look back at you. Take a deep breath and confront your/our evil twin; it's never us who do ugly things of course but rather a part of ourselves.
Like the comedian said about the guy with 8 personalities,
"NOT SURE WHICH OF YOU COMMITED THE CRIME, BUT YOU'RE ALL GONA DO THE TIME".
8:48 And shockingly, this was originated in Korea.😊
What kind of cryptozoology?
Thylacine? Yes.
Woolly mammoth? oh yeah.
Bigfoot, Nessie, chupi, No.
Thylacine and woolly mammoths aren’t cryptids…
Norhern Curlew.. American IBIS (?!?)
I think the like doesnt do anything with the algorithm
Do you think you could make a video about the idea of cloning extinct animals (Passenger Pigeon, Wooly Mammoth, etc.)?
Eskimo is considered derogatory? I thought there actually was a group called Eskimo, but it was being applied to others, like Inuits
It was actually a term likely invented by the French, meaning "person who laces a snowshoe"
@@all.about.nature1987 Oh.
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Why did you say that
Wonder if Europeans over hunting of passengers pigeon also done to deny the native tribes an important food source like what was done to bison, pretty low thing to do.
They have said this about the US government and the hunting of bison to deny a vital food source to the Native Americans.
Passenger pigeons are still around. They're just called Mourning doves.
People are like barbaric roaches.
I guess we killed off everything on planet earth.... how did we kill the dinosaurs? How did we kill when we weren't here? Blaming man on everything is not working on me!
Did you watch the video? Who blamed humans for all extinctions? I spoke about 4 species that went extinct, and only two of them had direct correlations to human-induced extinction. You're welcome to research the extinction of these species yourself. Denying that humans are the main contributors to modern extinction rates is extremely ignorant.
They try to come up with all sorts of scientific reasons why the locust is gone. The real story is the swarm was ravaging some Christian settlers who prayed to Jesus to save them. The swarm flew to a glacier and they all froze to death.
Your savage Christian devil worship is all wrong you wish death upon the fellow children of the Earth… peace loving god my 4ss, yous were always savages, killing in the name of greed and jealousy throughout their reign of terror, you bring hell to those who know not of it
Devils!
So, Jesus dammed part of his creation to please another??
We truly consider ourselves the chosen ones, don't we??
Sounds like those animals lacked the ability to adapt. Good riddance more food for stronger species
With all due respect, no.
Long term management of wild stock is a better strategy for feeding humans in the long run. Hunting everything to extinction is short-sighted and irresponsible.
Also, this isn't a matter of not being able to adapt. Human-induced extinctions often happen so fast that a species cannot have sufficient time needed (tens of millions of years) to adapt.
my mans, you look like you couldn't adapt to a broken ac unit -_-
respect the natural world, damn it
With no respect, good riddance for when you finally go.
Jesus christ, get a life
Good riddance when it happends to you
Thank you for the video :) I'm going to share with my wifey