Journey Arcade Game Restore Part #16 - Sanding Primer, Paint, and Wet Sanding Part 2
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Here it is! Part #16 of the Bally Midway Journey Arcade Game Restore. We are getting somewhere! In this video we will paint the Journey BLUE!!! Not brown! :)
In this video we will cover:
#1 - Sanding Kilz Primer with a Random Orbital Sander
#2 - Painting an arcade cabinet with a foam roller
#3 - Wet Sanding an Arcade Cabinet with 2,000 grit sandpaper
#4 - Arcade Game Prep Work, Cleaning, and more!
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"Just keep it wet, and go to town." Great life advice.
your old band ROCKS!
6:00 - My Mom has the exact same sander, she did woodworking back in the day and would like to try to get into it again.
Well, two thoughts I had while watching this excellent video. One, I am amazed at how much love and care you're putting into this cabinet. Bally Midway wishes their original cabs looked this good! Two, if you ever decide to actually sell this game after all the work you did, I will personally drive to New England and slap you silly! LOL Not only does this game deserve a special spot in your basement arcade, it deserves to have spotlights on it, and the big royal red ropes draped around it to keep spectators from putting their grubby hands all over the cabinet! This has to be the single most meticulously restored Journey game anywhere on the planet! Truly awe inspiring! I have to say also, that did not seem like 2 hours and 20 minutes. Great work as always my friend!!
John, thanks so much for these epic, in-depth videos! They have been such a help!
I recently got a Galaga (for FREE because it didn't work and the cabinet was trashed) and your videos helped me get it back up and running *awesome*. Then I pulled it apart and did a full restore, again using your videos for help along the way! Thanks!!
Lol I can finally understand the brown paint joke I never understood until watching this XD
For those who want to see the "Brown Paint" Montage by OneCircuit. Here's the link
blkdog7 vs brown paint
I shouted "hallelujah!!!" the second that arttic blue paint touch the side of the cabinet. It has been a long tome coming, John!
Not wearing the mask while sanding was not the worst part. The part when i lost my shit was when you pulled out the god damn leaf blower and started blowing all those nasty dust particles all over the place. The finest of the finest particles got airborne and that my friend is the worst. Lots of those particles will stay in your lungs forever, and tissue will grow over it. We need you to stay alive for a long time John, your videos is all we got man! :D
Well said, those particles are lethal in the long run. Although we would have to contend with a muffled John voice, should be interesting :]
Obviously, I agree as I put the disclaimer in the beginning. :) I feel fine now! lol.
We're so close!!! Looks great; Can't wait to see the final product!
thats a gorgeous blue john! nice work
Thanks, Super! Really appreciate it! :)
Thanks for the video it'll help me alot
Also love the music
I spent a chunk of time at our old house doing drywall and sanding in our tiny bathroom. I had wish I used a respirator, as the shirt i was breathing through still let dust through. ugh. not fun.
For what it's worth, there's a paint job called the rust oleum paint job that supplied with the paint roller and a little bit of wet sanding and quality rivals any $2000 custom paint job that you might put on the car. The process is essentially what John is doing here, except you thin the paint out so that it drives really fast and you wet sand between coats. On the final coat you'd simply buffet out with a good buffer. Google rust oleum custom paint job and take a look at some of the cars just to give you an idea of what kind of finishes are possible using a paint roller and some sandpaper
Hey John, good 30 minute video ;)
I never thought watching paint dry could be so exciting :] Thanks again John, it will be really interesting to see if vinyl covering works better in the long run....
Great video John, longer than most feature films!!! Looking forward to the final episode :) You're doing a great job with the cab.
what an epic restore series this has turned out to be. i enjoy them all the more because of the perfectionism. very nice to finally meet the other half of the kill screens!
Thanks, pal! Glad you enjoyed it.
I think the attention to detail and perfectionism is what makes me enjoy this channel so much
When putting paint on the roller, pull the paint upwards onto the ribs of the tray with the roller and then push the roller downwards a few times without pulling upwards. That way you'll keep pushing the paint back into the bottom of the tray and you won't have too much paint on the roller. Too much paint on the roller will cause the roller not to roll.
Either way, looking good John. Love the restoration.
Looking good!
That is the best brown paint arcade I have ever seen!
I'm in the same process with three cabinets in my garage right now. I'm fighting more with the Bondo than with painting so far. The cabs I'm working with are totally beat. I wish I could Fast Forward my sanding like you did! Can't wait to see this finished up.
Love that paint brand.
Got ur vid on bud. Just came back from the arcade auction, getting ready to geek out.
Well I picked up a Hydro Thunder and a Area 51. The Hydro was missing the entire computer! Dang.... The Area 51 said 'Does not work', works just fine... Had you on while I was cleaning and testing my new pickups. Even selected "Worlds apart" just for you on the jukebox.
Just found your videos and I think they are going to be extremely helpful with my restoration. First time doing it so its all new to me. The sanding and painting are my hurdles right now and these last two videos have some crazy good information in them
Wow! Longest video ever but so much great information. Honestly, I think you have a painting and sanding issue. haha The cabinet looked perfect to me. Maybe you could see imperfections better in your light.
There, you were being a little too timid with the paint at first. It's the last pass that you're gonna see, so the trick is to get the paint on the surface, and then face it off with one long smooth stroke. You don't want to keep rolling over the paint once it's been in the air for a few minutes. Just roll it on and leave it to dry. . A light, angling from the side, can really give you a good perspective on how the finish is going on. Don't get me wrong, Ii still looks nice. Awesome series thanks for sharing with us
Man your really putting in a lot of work on this machine.
Good job John, it looks awesome.
Hi John. Going through the same experiences and using the same techniques right now painting my Donkey Kong (particle board cab). Front turned out great, sides being stubborn, then oops, front not so great, redo, etc.
Re-watched to help, reference, and for inspiration... Thanks again for putting this up as a resource.
Awesome! Let me know how it turns out. Good luck!
Great video John. Impressed by your staying power on this one, others would have put a 60-1 in it and flipped it for profit long ago.
Thanks, Leslie! I'm in it for the long haul! :D
John's obsession with this blows my mind.
Great video as always John, I am definitely going to try that 2000 grit wet sanding trick to get rid of brush and roller marks in the future.
games2replay make sure it’s not latex paint like this guys. Has to be oil base
By the way the Journey Cabinet blue color is looking awesomr cant with to see back to together up and running with the side art too it will look Amazing John keep up the awesome work on the videos and the restores I always look foward to your new videos each week and the grinkers tour with Joe and Sean was really awesome
Thanks, bro! Glad you are liking the videos! :D
I've been watching your restoration videos. Thanks for sharing. It's great to see your successes as well as your mistakes. Though I wish you didn't have to face the mistakes! I noticed when you roll, you roll in straight lines. I've seen elsewhere and had success by making consecutive V shapes without removing the roller. Then simply move your starting point and repeat. That way you get finer coats. That being said, you did get the results! Anyway, thanks for sharing your videos! Good luck on the rest of the restoration!
Yeah, the house painter guys say to roll in the shape of a "W" or "N". I am aware of this. My instinct is to go up and down for some reason. At the end of the day, I absolutely go the results I wanted so I guess it's ok. :)
Ha ha! So true. I like seeing the whole process. Sometimes people cut out the bits they think are boring and those are exactly the things I want to see someone do!
+John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech actually from a professional to you... you start in the middle.. and multi coat multi coat and multi coat also... with latex paint water is the natural thinner... the thinner the paint the smooth the job... honestly thats why you kept seeing orange peel ALSO another tip is to use ployurathane OVER your paint job the eliminate orange peel but it will make it shinny
Hey John, just rewatching the Journey rebuild and wanted to pass along a painting tip (for whenever you paint another cabinet, or your house...whatever) ... if you go from the bottom to the top in one stroke, and slightly angle the roller towards the tip of the roller (not the handle side) you'll drastically reduce the likelihood of leaving lines. Just thought I'd share that tidbit. :)
instead of a paint tray, find a dollar store and get some of those disposable aluminum casserole pans. Hot glue a couple scrap cardboard feet to one end so that it leans and voila! $1 paint tray that you can wash or throw away w/out feeling like you wasted too much money. Also try some of those cheap foam brushes. They handle differently, but i find them easier to blend w/out the lines that bristle brushes leave.
i'd be inclined to lay the machine on it's side. Paint the upper surface that is parallel to the ground. Gravity will remove lines and smooth out any imperfections. of course you have to paint and dry one side at a time but it might be quicker in the long run, would also be interesting to see the effect of an automotive paint buffer versus sanding.
You need to get yourself some lint free cloths and a bucket! they work much better than a papertowel does. Also, a tack cloth can be really useful, too.
It's frickin' blue!
Such an epic project. Congrats on your progress.
You must really love this game, or this band, or just restores
LOL! I love the game. The band is pretty cool too.
Yeah, that stuff can be toxic too. I made the same mistake! Buy a high quality respirator for 30 bones at Home Depot. Totally worth it! Great video John!
You numpty John; safety first! :P
Couldn't watch the whole vidja, but this thing is looking schweet.
I recommend sanding the primer just a tiny bit rougher, p180 is more than enough for such thick paint :)
I can see whyn that would be a good idea. I might have gone a little too smooth. :(
Get a compressor and a airbrush will save you tons of headaches and finish will be perfect!
I never thought watching paint dry could be so interesting..
I found a full size foam roller at Sherwin Williams. It was only liike $2.75 too.
FINALMENTE JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Nice rhythmic nose sniffing video John haha.. jk great job on the restore so far. The amount of effort you put into it is inspiring.
Dude! Man that was a lot of work but I tell you what it looks absolutely terrific!
Another great video John thanks.
P.S. When I was working in my attic I would leave my hoover on (it has a dust filter on it, it just helped to clear the air a little bit).
After wetsanding the finsih will be dull to restore the dullness apply a coat varathane water base satin or glossy clear finish everything will look perfect.
it would have been hilarious if when you started mixing the blue it turned brown.
LOL that would've been so funny
bout time! :)
I would clean the part of the handle where the roller goes on, and wipe it with a paper towel with some WD-40. I feel like that would get it to roll.
John you cool,blowing your nose hahahaaa
WTF!! tha shite is brown!...:) just kidding man. Great job on your meticulous prepping and painting methods! Looks great!!
just watched the "hatred" trailer. I agree with you john, its just a video game!! but of course the esrb and our politicians feel the need to be our parents even when were grown up. makes me want to buy it even more. anyhow thanks for another entertaining video.
looks Awesome! Damn paint. Put it in a different light and get a different look. If your not ocd already. Painting sure can turn yea.
AWESOME !!!
For the amount of restores you do, you'd think that you would have already invested in a proper air tank and hvlp setup by now. For what you're doing, you can get er done for 300-400 bucks, which would make this process a DREAM to do, and turn out an infinitely better result in half the time.
I'm getting good results here. I would, however, love to save the time. I dunno, I just don't have a good setup for spraying. Maybe...
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech Try HarborFreight - HVLP Gun and setup for under $50. Just need a compressor and line at that point (both of which you can get at HarborFreight - They also deliver and you can order online).
Hes old school and does a great job. Would not have looked better. Old school games and doing it right. Takes the time to do it right. Plus for a garage this is perfect.
Its about the journey not the destination. John will only appreciate the incredible and hard work he's done. Playing it is just icing on the cake.
Next time try thinning down the paint with mineral spirits. It'll help the paint lay flat on the surface.
Hey John wear the mask!! We care for your health!
Anyway i love your song Nacho Jesus, but i prefer the newer version included in Pure Stupidity!
It sounds like something from Prince of Persia!
I think you are supposed to put the tray liner inside of the more expensive $3 trays.
I saw that Hatred trailer last week, and I'm with you, while it's repulsing, I was intrigued with what I saw, at least from a gameplay perspective. We need some good gore games again, like the old Soldier of Fortune series. I think the premise is bad, but the engine and the game could be turned into something really cool!
Dude! I loved Soldier of Fortune!! I played that soooooo much on my Mac. I miss that series!
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Me too man, loved that series, well the first two anyway. I really miss when developers could make games like that, it's all so cookie cutter anymore.
BTW~ the Journey paint job looks sick man! Well done!
All of that paint dust made me gag just seeing it you must have felt like hell.
Did you relise how much was in the air while you was doing it or when you saw what the camera picked up?
At this point, I just can't believe it's going to be only one more video. Something will happen and it's going to be two at least.
Don't jinx me!
It kind of make me sad that you not into Star Gate or Defender.When you was on the road there was a Defender there and you just passed it up..Oh Yeah do you like Munch Mobile it was really cool looking game.
That brown paint looks blue, I'd get a refund on that 😂
John don't mean to bugging you with comments on your videos ( which I really enjoy) but beware of masking tape it can take paint off especially if left on too long. Cab is looking great :-)
Thanks for the tip! I was already thinking this. :)
Another great vid. Btw, did that sander come with a attachment for a vacuum? If I do a lot of sanding a vacuum makes a world of difference. Eliminates 90% of the dust in the air.
JON ,,I appreciate the un-editing you do, or should i say don't do.. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks, buddy! :)
Paint sucks. Its very hard to get it right using a roller.
I have some great techniques that leave little to no roller marks, and the surface is smooth, but I'd probably need to make a video to explain it better.
Regardless, that cab needed to be laid down on its side and the paint applied horizontally. That is, you applied it vertically while the cab was upright, increasing the risk for lines and roller marks, whereas if you had the cab on the ground, and applied the paint horizontally, you'd get a more even coat.
Anyways, its done now, and it looks good. Something tells me this cab will be a keeper for a long time to come.
I totally agree with you, paint sucks! What minor lines I had were easily removed with the wet sanding. This was a lot of work but in the end I did pull it off. The sides are truly amazing. I just redid the front tonight. It didn't go as smooth as the sides but it looks good.
And, yeah... this is a keeper. :)
Didn't Midway continue the blue all the way up the front to the CP? I don't remember that being black. I always thought it was blue where it angles out.
Never mind. I just did a google image search and saw one that had black. I thought that was the CP.
at 50:00 please!!! someone do a video mix with the blue paint, same shot, perfect for a remix.
Sorry for saying messed up the video game outsiders podcast. What I meant was that it was funny how you messed up the VGO and arcade outsiders openings after doing VGO for so long. Its ok though were are you human we all make mistakes but is was pretty funny though LOL!!!
Yeah, I don't know where I am some times. "Hey Guys, 5, 4, 3 ,2, LIVE!" :)
Looks like it's snowing...
This is kind of a random question, but is this method of restoring these machines cost effective?
i mean, comparing the amount of hours spent on the restore and the cost of materials to the cost of buying a newer / already restored machine, which is less expensive? Let's say you value your time at minimum wage in the U.S. - around 8-10$.
When i wet sanded my cabinet, after 2 coats of black, and then even after 3 coats of black, my paint looked odd. It almost looked grey. If it's when, when i clean it, it looks like a nice satin black, but when it dries it looks greyish. What am i doing wrong?
everytime i see you without a masked i shake my head.. now you know .
That is blue paint.
lol@ the paint dust in his ear... John you gotta stop digging in your ears while sanding, and get a mask! Oh man such a beautiful 2nd coat and he has to go and screw with it lmao. Coatitis indeed!
R.I.P. stool.
The blue is looking awesome. So you have all the decals? New marquee or used or new old stock.
About how long does it take for your garage to get back down to 50 from 70 after running that heater for a 1/2 hour ?
A few hours. It doesn't happen very fast as the garage is insulated.
tl;dr:
Paint goes on
Paint gets sanded off
Paint goes on
Paint gets sanded off
Paint goes on
Paint gets sanded off
Paint goes on
IT'S DONE!! :D
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Paint gets sanded off
Paint goes on
Lol basically
Cad looks like two different colors...
hi john i was wondering what camera you use to film your video's the quality is awesome?
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Yeah you really sound wheezy after you sanded. Atlrast wrap a t-shirt around your head old west style.
We need you alive to enjoy the journey....
Its great music John can u send me a cd please
Not sure if you mentioned but what type of paint are you using and is it oil-based or water-based ???
For Journey I used water based paint. I couldn't get oil based in that color.
+John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech is oil based paint better
By the way, John, you might want to do a video on arcade safety. These games aren't cheap, and certain aspects of the arcade hobby can be quite dangerous. For example, John Pio's Spy Hunter cabinet weights at least 300 pounds. That could do a lot of damage to your home or cause some serious injuries if it wasn't transported properly.
Ryan I have a Donkey Kong machine on top of me right now. Wow its heavy!! But I'm still able to reach the one player button. Yes. Plays even better sideways? Best game ever. HE AIN'T HEAVY HE'S MY BROTHER!!!!
And CRT's! Zap zap! :P
D:
You definitely should pay a little more attention to your health: I want to watch your videos for as long as possible you know ! ;)
Besides, I sincerely wish you the longest and happiest life on Earth mate ! :-)
LEAVE IT ALONE JOHN! Jesus! Man I thought I had bad OCD.
Your not using enough paint and your pushing to hard on it. that’s why u have dry spots. U keep painting the same spot going over and over it. That’s the other reason it looks dry. Paint it like your painting a wall. Straight up and down. Also the paint is too shinny to be rolling, u will see all imperfections.
john you say by the way alot
John- I use that exact Dewalt sander. The sanding pads can be bought on ebay at a great price! www.ebay.com/itm/400552835900
Thanks for the link! So.. $16.00 for 50. That's good! $4.00 cheaper than Home Depot.
dude ..seriously you need to wear a dust mask.. im coughing just watching you
I'd watch your videos more if they weren't as long as The Lord of the Rings movies.
Yo dong-bag 95% of your paint problems are because you are only using a paint tray liner without a $3 metal paint tray. Without the tray the liner is at the wrong angle witch is leading to your paint overload on the roller. I love your videos but don't cut corners on a $3 paint tray. This is almost as comical as the brown pain debacle.