When do we first see the shark in Jaws?
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- With only 4 minutes of screen time, the shark in Jaws is the ultimate example of less is more. But when do we first see the shark in Jaws? It's a hotly debated topic that Ross from The Daily Jaws tries to answer.
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Brody looks genuinely scared in the "gonna need a bigger boat" scene. Genuine fear is silence not screaming as how it is portrayed today.
Although the first "clear" shot is in the estuary, it's really when Alex Kitner is attacked and you see the shark roll over when initially taking Alex down. To me, the arm of the Alex "dummy" flailing just above the water looked surprisingly real .....and it always disturbed me. Especially after becoming a father.
Is the correct answer.
Both those scenes are still frighteningly well done.. The estuary shot is the best.
i've watched that attack frame by frame and i still cannot exactly tell what i'm seeing. there are fins and a rolling action, but nothing discernible.
the second shot of Alex being eaten while he's on the surface, you can see the shark's snout and even get a glimpse of his head/eye.
It's the arterial spray with that flip that truly traumatized me as a kid ...it's like a fire hydrant.
We first time we see the shark is when we enter the theater and look at the poster on the wall.
I don’t even understand how this is a debate. The estuary is 100% the first time we see the shark (outside of his fins)
Alex Kitners attack was a quick first glimpse but the attack of the guy in the pond was when you really get to see the erormity of the beast.
Jaw's fin 👍
The word “Enormity” doesn’t indicate size, it means “a great sin or crime”. So this comment is actually incorrect, the first time we really see the enormity of the beast is when it kills Chrissie Watkins
@@diegodollarhide6663 I would slap you with a leather glove if I could.
@@diegodollarhide6663 ok 🤣
@@diegodollarhide6663 Actually, OP said erormity, not enormity. So actually your comment is incorrect -- or we might rather say "in eror."
The "bigger boat" sequence is supposed to be the "reveal". Up until then we get glimpses and hints. But when Brody is talking to Hooper and the shark surfaces and Brody turns to look at it, and then pops up into that empty reverse shot, that look on his face is supposed to say it all... "this is a monster and we are not prepared to deal with it".
He added the “bigger boat” line himself. Probably didn’t realize it would become THE line of the film.
The Marge chomp in Jaws 2 is pretty damn cool
That scene has always given me almost painful anxiety..."I can't get up"..pure panic I never liked it but it stuck with me forever
I always felt so bad for Marge! She couldn't get up because she got Sean onto the top of the boat first! btw while on the subject of Jaws 2, i always thought Tina was REALLY stupid! When Eddie was getting attacked, she did NOTHING! Just screaming: "Eddie, swim! Swim fast, there's a shark, Eddie! Swim! Oh God, Eddie, swim!" She didn't even try to paddle over & help him!
My aunt’s childhood friend’s mom played that. It stinks that they are no longer friends though.
I did my very very best.
I'm glad you enjoyed.
The estuary is where we first see the face of the shark. First true reveal.
I guess it’s subjective but in my personal opinion its the shot at 4:35 For me that is the scariest and most chilling because of how subtle it is.
It's a ghostly image
The original Jaws gave everyone a primal fear of the Great White Shark. Spielberg's classic provided excellent character development along with beautiful seaside scenery and an excellent story. Coming up to 49 years since it's release seems unbelievable... I saw the disappointing sequels...The Revenge even had the shark searching for the Chief's family. I would've loved to heard that pitch.... Also.. would've loved to have known to invest in Walmart, Apple, Microsoft and Amazon..!
Estuary bit, where we see the shark under the water going in for the kill, very chilling.
5:05 this shot is exactly 1 second long, yet it leaves a mark an every viewer's mind for sure
I'd argue that it's the estuary scene. And it looks damn real under the water and when he bites the victim. Plus the shark covered in water makes it look even more realistic....which is also why the practical T-Rex in Jurassic Park is introduced during a thunderstorm.
You can argue that the first time you see the shark is the Kintner kid...but you only see fins. That would he like only seeing Jason Voorhees' hands holding a knife; you know it's the killer, but you have no face, or mask to go with it. The first time you truly see the shark is when he's about to drag the estuary victim down. You're actually seeing the monster now.
The Kintner boy's real name is Vorhees, oddly.
I know for a fact the first time the shark is seen in Jaws 2 is the water skier being chomped up into little bits. I felt bad for her. But then I found out she was a Republican.
@@trhansen3244 everyone in the movie is a Democrat, sorry.
You mention the fisherman off the jetty and the 1 second shot of the dorsal fin as shark drakes the jetty away from the shore.
I believe that is not the sharks fin but the rubber tyre/float being dragged.
agree
I was JUST about to type the exact same thing. That's definitely the tire. The shark was not used in filming that scene nor were there any insert shots of the shark used. It's all theater of the mind in that scene.
Agree its the tyre
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Indeed. Bruce was never used, or even scheduled to be used, in any of the beach scenes. The water was far too shallow for the contraption. They just did some insert shots (Kintner raft grab and red rowboat man getting munched) at the end of location shooting in the deeper water of Katama Bay, where Bruce could be used.
Agree, it's the tyre. But I have to say that bit where the broken bit of jetty turns around and 'chases' the guy in the water - epic! Very chilling.
My all time favourite film. Brilliantly done video 👏🏻👏🏻
To me the best shark appearance is when It rises out of the water and Quint shoots a harpoon in it's jaw, right before the shark starts dragging the boat. You truly get how massive the shark is.
1)- silhouette attacking Alex
2)- below the surface shot/side shot of dude in the pond (ol' legs)
3)- chum shot - 1st full shot
there's deleted scene about michael brody try to save estuary in shark mouth
As a kid, I 'watched' the last act of Jaws with my eyes closed, I was so terrified. I was obsessed with sharks for years afterwards. I love the fact this movie has made you insane enough to make a whole channel about it. x
My initial and already thought out answer was the Kitner attack. The question is too vague. A bit of Shark? All of the Shark? The face if the Shark? The 1st time you see any of the Shark is indeed the Kitner attack, so that really is the answer. I always found the Kitner attack more scary and crazy looking than any of the other attacks. The dropping Fin, It's hard to work out the exact position of the Shark. Why was the 1st fin out of the water, is that the side fin or dorsal? It's just a more realistic attack than the others. Seeing the size of the Shark in the estuary is also fantastic.
*Kintner
I feel like the first two attacks was the tiger shark
I have always wondered what that big mass that comes out of the water during the kittner attack
Obviously the Ted Grossman's scene is the first proper shark appearance
Fact's greatest movie ever. Good upload.
The scene were the man in the boat gets he's leg biten off, you can see the shark just under the water the shark's head pop's out a bit on the side but u clearly can see it
I consider that the best sort monster or creature reveal ever in movies. U barely had time to think like “holy balls did u see how big it was” before they have the second shot where u actually see it’s head taking him. Gnarly and perfectly executed filmmaking.
@@chriscastillo4275 Spot on. 👍
I remember queuing to see the first showing of jaws on Boxing Day 1975 still my all time favourite film I must of seen it at least 50 times since and never get tired of it an absolute classic !
The first time you get a bit view of its size is in The Pond.....kudos to Roy Scheider for 'you're gonna need a bigger boat'...that was an ad-lib!!
Wow, I always thought the second shot of Alex Kitner going under DID show the shark behind him, chomping down. But, I think thats just the mattress.
If you know, you know! LOL
The question isn't "when do you see the whole shark?" or "when do you see the shark's face?" It's "when do you first see the shark?" You see the shark first when Alex is killed. I enjoyed the video very much, as I enjoy all things Jaws. But the question is easy and definitive to answer. Now, go get a bigger boat everyone!
When it kills Alex. You can see the tail flip after it takes a bite out of the Kinter boy. This is the first appearance for sure and I know they were trying to use the animatronic for that shot but it wasn't coming out right so they filmed it far away and in a cut.
But that was just a fin.
All you can see is the side of the shark barely with what was likely the left pectoral fin as it rolled over and pulled him under.
However, the reason this is techincally the actual first appearance is because you do see the shark's mouth on the original scene over the boy bite down on him, but it was so gruesome, they cut it from the movie.
@@davidhoban3825 a fin is attached to a shark therefore it’s a shark lol
@@escapetoparadise2226 I know but it's the jaws of Jaws that I always thought of as being the first 'proper' sighting and that's when he chomps at the rower
@@davidhoban3825 question didn’t say proper but yet first seen… ;)
Rip Susan Backlinie. (1946-2024)
Alex attack scene was cut due to being to graphic , Bruce was meant to come up and grab Alex, even the guy from the orange boat was meant to be in Bruce month being drag away saving Michael that’s why he’s in shock when they get him from the water
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The fact the guy yelps before going under.😩😰😱
I was a senior in high school, doing summer school when this came out. I didn't know many people as I was at a new school in a new city, so I went by myself to see this. Two little kids, carrying their home popped pop corn in brown paper lunch bags latched on to me in the ticket line. They made it infinitely more scary for me, with their screams and flying pop corn and grabbing on to my arms. I don't think I slept a full night through for an entire month. Every time I would begin to fall asleep, I would feel my bed becoming a sinking boat and that music filled my brain... Lost a lot of weight that summer...
Its a tough one. Because the shark is revealed gradually, showing the shark more and more in bits & pieces
The estuary scene. That's what I remember back when I saw it in 1975, and ever since, and I'm sticking with it. The Kintner scene, I always saw that as the raft folding in half, and not as seeing the shark. Some might say that those are the shark fins that we see, but which ones? The pectoral fins? The dorsal fin and 1 pectoral fin? A pec and a tail fin? If it's DEBATABLE what we're actually seeing, then we are not actually and truly seeing the shark. Spielberg wanted us to get our first real look at the shark and be shocked, not debating, and when we see the shark it's in the estuary scene with the guy in the red-bottomed rowboat (Teddy Grossman scene). I remember seeing that in 1975 and being awestruck by it and getting the chills (figuratively, not literally)....
Answer: the estuary scene !
But the pond shot in the theatre was so quick that was really just another tease. The sharks proper entrance was the chum shot.
So far @dannyspitzer is the only one I see that spelled the boy's name correctly....Kintner....with two N's.
Jaws is the best of all the Jaws franchise.
Maybe the Reef can be classified as the best shark movie after Jaws.
But Jaws remains the king and one has to watch it on big screen to understand why Steven Spielberg is a genius ´ one can not get if watching it on tv screen ´´´ imho
The final cut is the best. By saving the big reveal until the famous, "I think we are going to need a bigger boat," scene with Brody the movie attains a subtlety that its later imitators would never have. The gory dismemberment shots seem juvenile and worthy only of popcorn chewers seen in drive-in theaters. The movie is thus elevated from a mere parade of victims to a proper 3-Act structure.
"You're gonna need a bigger boat."
In the the roast fishing scene, in hi def, you can see the shadow of the shark just as Charlie gets on to the dock.
No you can't, because they didn't use the shark in that scene. Nice try, Scott
@@chiefscheider Sorry, Chief....Oh yes they did...or, at least, that added it later (like added footage in Star Wars) in the blue ray versions of the film that were recently released they added the shadow. I have a photograph of it on my iphone which was taken directly from my TV screen. Go to 2:35 seconds. czcams.com/video/6hyE_J75T4s/video.html
I can see it now. I had to slow it down and really look or it, though.
There’s no argument, you simply see the shark at Alex seen…
I see no shark there
@@unsinnkim3690you see the fins then the head. It’s like a second long, but you definitely can see it.
@@lisamorrison214 geez, you're right: I gave it another look in slowmotion. Yes, one can vaguely see the shark's nose and an eye at the surface in the scene, when Alex screams out just before the shark finishes him off underwater. After all these years, I never realized that.
when you see the fins go down behind Sean you gotta think to yourself that's awfully shallow water for a shark that big to be near.
To me the first time you see Bruce is when Brody is chumming. It wasn't just the jump scare, it was Scheider's acting. Brody's reaction made it more terrifying and then one minute later you see the great white swim right past the orca. Yeah we saw the shark a few times before this but this is the first time you realize how big these beast is...especially in contrast to the orca. Even Quint while playing it down, is shocked. Ok gonna go watch this movie for the thousanth time now. :)
And the bigger boat shark scene, jaws is revealed on a joke, so you really don't see it coming.
I read online back years ago a shark hunter caught a 23 foot great shark by killing it towing the shark in by boat now for the boat it was only 16 foot true fact 😁❤️
You really get a good look at the shark when Brody is throwing chum in the ocean
Nice little jump scare there I like it
someone posted a pic of a deleted scene with kitner in the mouth of the shark. that would be nightmare fuel right there seeing that.
I first saw this movie when I was 5 years old on a 16 inch tube television in my parent's living room, and even then, I knew the first time I had seen the shark was in the estuary when it jumped up to grab the guy and take off his leg. HOW IS THIS EVEN STILL A QUESTION?
Cool fact, the actual model/machine of the shark sank during filming ….it was a pain
I vividly remember being in a sold-out movie theater at the moment of the chum reveal. I have never, before or since, heard a movie audience reaction so loud and extreme.
Alex you see it’s side fins roll over
When Alex Kintner was taken you see it's nose and pectoral fins as it rolls over biting him. But the estuary attack was the first real shot, it horrified me when I first saw it when I was 12.
HAPPY 47TH ANNIVERSARY OF JAWS
Jaws came out nearly 50 years ago. To put that in perspective, when Jaws came out, the movie Star Wars had not come out.
@@trhansen3244 you did not need to put it in perspective. I never once touched Star Wars in terms of interest. You could’ve just said Jaws came out in 1975
and obviously Star Wars was never released yet before Jaws, genius
Sorry about that
Estuary, although you see fins, its nothing compared to the pond scene. You get the dorsal, tail shot then the above shot as its coming for the pond guy, then the chomping on pond guy. Really you get all the shark in the pond scene.
Fully cage scene
as an intellectual we see the shark first when broody kills it as we see all of it inside and out 🧠🦈
The movie poster. ;-)
what would have happened if steven king had directed jaws instead of spealberg
As far as I understand it ,the Kintner attack was eventually shot on or near the last day (after Spielberg had fled for the sake of his own health and sanity, plus it meant he body swerved a suspected dooking by the rest of the crew.) by which time the big issues had been more or less managed and the shark was “still working”. So the theory that the scene showed so little of the shark due to problems with the prop begins to sound unlikely. In the home movie footage of them getting the shot of Bruce biting the raft it looks like they’ve got things under control.
The theories (and in some cases pure myths about test audiences losing their minds at the “original” version) of it being too violent and “brutal” as seen in the production still of the “original”, “deleted” scene don’t really stack up either. It’s consistently overlooked that, while the massive jaws towering over “Alex” in all their nightmarish glory are shown in impressively stark clarity. The fact that it is clearly a mannequin of an adult female would also have been blatantly obvious if it had been given any more screen time than the finished scene affords it. It could well have been laughed at. And not because of the mechanical shark.
Plus the scene as it is in the movie is quite consistent with the description of witnesses in the novel. As soon as the shark attacks we get only the very limited perspective of Brody and the other beachgoers who aren’t quite sure what they’ve seen other than some commotion. An objective shot of half of shark breaching out of the water would be a break from the grammar that the scene is following of switching from Shark POV to Brody’s POV. The fan made edits which cut the home movie footage in neatly demonstrate that this is not how the scene was designed to work. And if the whole shark head was meant to be seen from the POV of the beach goers, it creates a plot hole. Since nobody in the movie is supposed to really be aware of how big the shark is until much later. (Except the victims of course).
I believe the shark is “seen” in the Kintner scene roughly as it was intended to. No doubt they had difficulty getting the prop to act in the desired way to cause enough of a commotion to get the beach goers attention. But also obscure enough not to be obvious to even just one person that a gigantic shark just attacked someone 20 feet from the shore.
When they talk about not being able to show the shark as much as intended, I think of the pier scene where the shark would still be obscure enough in the darkness to be on screen but not give the true size away. But the broken end of the pier stood in for the shark. And also the later scenes where the shark is chasing or circling the Orca , which used the barrels to sub for the recalcitrant Bruce.
I do remember seeing an intro of jaws but it wasn’t the woman who got caught. That boat out there where hopper found the tooth but the other fishermen who instead died underwater. Yep I remember that shite clear as day his partner got chomped 1 shot while taking the back of the engine and sinking the boat. I’ll say this right of all scenes even deleted ones that scene was probably the most terrifying part.
First showing was Alex Kitner...
Some people will say it’s when he takes the Kitner boy but u can’t really see it. If you search for the deleted scenes there’s a still of it clearly over the Kitner boy, then what almost looks like a super 8 film capture of it chomping down on the raft and turning over from the side. Made me wonder if all of them were of the same shot they used. In the shot from the side it rolls over just like in the shot they used. Love to hear SS talk about that pic and the shot they didn’t use. I get why they didn’t tho cuz it’s pretty graphic. Also in the movie the second shot of Kitner dying u can make out the shark sort of chomping as he’s flailing but again when u first view it there’s no time to really make it out.
Here’s the clip. Part I’m referring to is from like :17 to like :24. If ya watch closely it looks awfully like the shot in the film only from the side, the way it rolls over. Wish they’d have used the part w/the still picture. That’s crazy looking
czcams.com/video/7RFcl6xHri4/video.html
You can see the fin and part of the body flip over. That is the first time you see him. If you want to be technical, and say its face, then it's the estuary seen.
You clearly see his tail…
Without a doubt u “see it” before the estuary. I think the question needs to be refined.
The shot of Jaws' snout up in the air before killing the Kitner boy looks unrealistic but that blurry side shot of the Kitner attack that you linked to looks so real. It actually looks like the real thing. Chilling.
Well that wasn't a deleted scene. It was just test/practice run throughs of the shark taking the dummy.
Spielberg didnt film that pick up shot. He'd just left Martha's Vineyard. Joe Alves filmed that shot, at the very end of location shooting in September '74. Bruce was working well then. Alves said he wanted the shark to be even more obscure. He wanted the sun shining behind it so all we'd see was a whirl of indistinct motion as it came up to take the dummy on the raft. However, by the time they got that shot set up the sun had moved and the shark was seen more than intended. They never wanted to show more of the shark. It would have made the following pier scene with the hidden shark totally redundant. The pier scene was shot in May.
When the shark pulls the dock out, the scene that you're referring to is not its fin. It's the tire the chain was connected to that is being dragged through the water. Nothing of a shark was seen in that scene. Spielberg even confirmed this.
Which shark?
When the sharks on its side about to bite down on the estuary, victim😮 just imagine a real-life scenario here, absolutely frightening.
Michael's in the pond.
Pond's for old ladies.
The picture in the thumbnail for this video is not in the film. Can someone explain this to me and what that pic is please?
It is. Its when the shark is chomping on the rope.
@@MrBooBeeDoo Ah yeah you're right. Silly me, how could I forget such an amazing shot?
@@JasonPerryman Actually MrBoo isn't right. When the shark is chomping on the rope, it's not that close. In the movie the shark is way back in the distance.
I always thought the shark must also have bitten the arm of the guy in the estuary off.
I always thought it was tyre you could see being dragged not the fin in the jetty scene
Attack in the pond
Alex Kitner scene fins & partial body. Estuary scene proper view of Bruce.'s head.
The correct answer is teh attack on Alex Kitner. The shark rolls over, and we see the tips of it's two pectoral fins. This is an authentic reconstruction of how sharks attack.
This is mad. I've seen Jaws hundreds of times but only now I'm embarrassed to say, did I see the tail when he attacked the Kitner boy. I only thought you could see the fin. ☺️
I've always thought you see the nose & fin, right?
For me the best shark scene happens moments after this. Quint and Brody on the bow and Hooper up top watch in disbelief as Bruce cruises by. That overhead shot shows you the massive scale of the animal. Just amazing!
SHARK IS ON SCREEN FOR 8 MINS DUDE
swimming along side the boat we see the sheer size and scale of the shark I like to say it's a bit of a taunt shark be like "You ain't ready for me man you are not prepared to fight me to face me look at my size and length you ain't ready I could have killed you son and you know that you ani't ready Chief get your human ass back on dry land before I sink this Pease of shit you call a boat"
The attack on Alex is a bit of stretch we we only see a quick glimpse of what could maybe have shark fins..the 2 fishermen on the docks was to give us the audience an idea of its raw power...the attack on the good Samaritan was the closest to a revealing shot because again it gave the audience an actual sense of scale 'wow look how big it is"...having had the first 3 acts build up an image of the shark and what the heros would be facing....which even moments after the "gonna need a bigger boat" scene the proportions of the shark are truly revealed "its a 20footer'...25' 3 tonnes of him"...with that we get an overhead view of the truly massive size of Bruce...
Nah we got a big shark with a bigger appetite
In the pond,
Kintner boy. You see the tail and all flip in the air.
It's a pectoral fin.
If that shark was a Meg forget it movie over shark wins
It’s called a TRANSUM not a BACK
If you look closely, before Alex gets dragged under the water, you can see part of the sharks head chomping down on him
No. That`s the raft.
@@jackprescott9652 the raft wasn’t grey, it was yellow
@@brucethesharkfromjaws5543 the bottom of the raft was dark blue.The top was yellow.
I had my assistant look at that scene frame by frame. She does not share your conclusion.
These sharks still wreak havoc and fear. Study some Great White attack history & see they are every bit as lethal as Bruce 😊
I know something you could talk about Jaws if you're interested.
It's obvious we get the first look of it when Alex Kintner is attacked that's my view of it
Like double yikes.
You missed the 3 seconds of seeing the sharks head when it's munching on Alex before he fully goes under
You need to define "first see the shark". Unless you're meaning to say "first see the shark's head", the Kintner attack is the first time we "see the shark". Otherwise, it's the estuary scene.
First sighting of the biggest "shark" ? When Hendricks, carrying material for the "Beach Closed" signs, bumps into Larry, middle of Amity High Street.
First "artistic" sighting ?
On the vandalised billboard.
Pippit ? 6th sense kicked in, scarpered up the beach to the Hot Dog kiosk.
The guy in 'the pond' who gets bumped out of his boat and as he tries to climb back on board, Jaws bites him. We then see his severed leg fall to the ocean floor. This is shortly after the false alarm with the boys messing around with the fin. Brody was on his way (Michael's in the pond) but too late for the guy in the boat. Interestingly, Jaws swims past a shocked Michael, leaving him alone
The estuary victim for sure!
His name was Ted Hendricks. Former football player for the Raiders.
@@trhansen3244 That's pretty gd funny!
76 mins? As in, the whole thing popping out to surprise Brody. Just a guess off the top of my head...
It is nt a clear view of the shark the first sighting is when Alex kinder gets attacked by the shark
The shawshank redemption is the greatest movie ever made
Jaws is far greater.
@@lyndoncmp5751 it's in my top 5 of movies
He didn't kill the dog. There's no proof. I would say that in a court of law Jaws would have to be found not guilty
He killed the dog
@@rhiannon7163 No evidence of that. How could Jaws have devoured the dog without everyone on the beach hearing it or seeing it, especially Pippits owner?
@@davidhoban3825 the number of deaths is the same as the Jersey incident, a dog was killed in Jersey
@@rhiannon7163 Bull shark? One attack was in a creek so couldn't have been a great white or could it?
@@davidhoban3825 I didn't mention the shark, just the number of deaths
estuary victim
WRONG!!!
Right about 1 hour in we see the shark attack the guy in the row boat in the estuary . . .1hr 2min we see the severed leg sink to the bottom.
Do we know for sure that was his leg, though?
@@trhansen3244 we see the shark for the first time in that scene , not the "You're gonna need a bigger boat" scene.