Weirwood Paste is People: Unfortunately, Jojen Paste Theory
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Yep, it's Jojen Paste theory - but not like you've ever tasted before. Brand new evidence will have you believing Bran can fly - but only by eating his friend.
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I think the saddest part of this theory (which I believe is true) is that Jojen KNEW when he was going to die, he knew he was going to be a sacrifice in order to awaken Bran's powers, you see how he becomes more and more depressed in the tree cave because he knows his life will soon be ended.
This was really more funny than it should have been, whoever knew cannibalising children was the stuff of comedy gold
Jonathan swift
@@thevampireyahweh5253this is, like, a top ten comment right here
I'm Bulgarian and in Bulgaria jojen / djodjen is the Bulgarian name for spearmint, which is very commonly used as spice in food.
Oh no. No. That’s horrible. And wonderful. Gees.
I prefer wintergreen
And Littlefinger chews spearmint to keep his breath fresh, Littlefinger is Bryndyn Rivers confirmed 😆
Thanks for the horrifying language lesson!
Confirmation.
LML: "I don't eat people."
Me: "Where's Quinn?"
Birthday stream today for him at 11 am PDT / 2 EDT
@@DavidLightbringer Damn, I'm sorry I missed that.
Based just on the description, I assumed that the weirwood paste was literally just Jojen's brain scooped out of his head and put into a bowl.
I thought this too
To me it seems like more like the white stuff is actually ground weirwood… something (seeds? Acorns? Who knows) and the red streaks through it is Jojen’s blood. In this case Bran is taking in weirwood elements to help “wed him to the trees” and Jojen’s blood is simply the sacrifice that pays for that magic to take place. Bloodraven specifically denies that the paste will make him a green seer (which fits with the idea of Jojen’s blood in the paste containing green magic that Bran absorbs), Bloodraven says “your blood makes you a Greenseer.” He’s always had the gift, Jojen’s is just the price in a blood sacrifice that will pay for the awakening of Bran’s green magic
Plop
@@jessie_dreams_ Thanks for the sound effect. I needed it.
I thought brains are pinky gray?
Those cannibal jokes were done in VERY poor... taste, ah y'got me
The helmet thing makes me think that they probably used his brain to make the paste as well as his blood. Also the bowl having faces on it makes it kind of a head, and of course thats where the brain goes.
"gently quivering gelatinous paste"
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I may never eat again.
The Children are borderline demonic lol... There are tons of hints to it... I know the show is different from the books, but the ending of the show essentially illustrates that the 3 eyed raven is a warg/greenseer that had the powerful ability to fully warg not just into animals, but also into strong minded humans. It warged into Brynden Rivers, and then it warged into Bran. Bran at the end of the show is not Bran, and Brynden Rivers was no longer Bloodraven. The children basically played a long game of chess and took back their lands in a very clever way. The person/thing that ended up sitting on the iron throne was one of the most powerful children of the forest.
Wow ,that's true
Bloodraven is Targaryan who is now on the throne via Bran. Lots of Blood
@@theaansel8738 Bloodraven got warged into by the three eyed raven. The three eyed raven did not start with Bloodraven. It is a powerful warg, most likely one of the greenseer children. Bloodraven and Bran were already wargs, so they were suitable replacement bodies for the "raven". Once Bran's body gets old, it will lure another person to warg into.
They even tell you that "the raven" holds the memories and knowledge of many ancient people/seers. It is all knowing. Bran's body and blood is not Targaryen, but it doesn't matter. The children just need a human body to sit the throne and be accepted. Why do you think Bloodraven knew so much about children's magic/rituals and worked so closely with them? He was one of them(warged). The Children are the most powerful beings in that world.
@@in_vas_por8810 Thanks for the info
He kinda forgot.
The humor is strong in this one.
Luckily Bran doesn't eat Meera. That's probably for the 18+ version.
nice
Yeah
Eww
@Jay Morgan oh no
Hahahahah too good 🤣🤣🤣😉
Incredibly subtle writing by George: "Jojen settled into the *bole* of an oak." (Bole/Bowl) 🤙🏾
Oh George...
This is why i understand george needing so much time to write TWOW. But its kinda time now...
"Fire and food would set him right again..." but Bran isn't sure it *WOOD*
@@dunnpfiffgurgler4016 it’s only time when the artist is finished and he gives it. There’s no before. Only the creator says “when”...
@@shinobifirecracker6671 I honestly think Winds is done, and he’s probably close to finishing Dream of Spring. He said that he had been writing them together, and I think he’s been letting the dust settle from the fall out of the TV series.
I know its not just LML's theory, but I always thought "Jojen Paste" is misdirection like Melisandra sacrificing the Kings blood in the leaches to assassinate the other would be kings, and by extension that the bones are from the hundreds of green seers before Blood Raven. If its Jojen paste, then I premise that Jojen is alive but dying and allowing his blood to be removed and fed to Bran, and this was the death he's been preparing for his whole life.
Iron Reed so they’re Edric Storming the blood out him then????
@@210SAi More brutal, thinking weirwood root pierced slow bleeding out.
Bran the Vampire!
@@sleekoduck Based on LML's "Venus of the Woods" they could also be "uploading" Jojen's consciousness to the weir wood net while at the same time sacrificing his blood to Brand directly or indirectly through blood infused weir wood.
I thought of something a bit similiar which is that the reason we never see weirwood seeds/spores is that weirwoods require sacrifices to create new trees, in mortal life for eternal life kinda situation or like the dragon eggs.
I wonder if it's his brain matter in the bowl, maybe the various tastes like "honey", and his "mother's last kiss" are Jojen's memories sipping into his consciousness.
Human meat is colloquially called "long pig" in the south Pacific.
Referenced in Pirates of the Caribbean as "long pork" so every time he said "pork" I couldn't help it 😂
“Pork”. I’m honestly so glad you made this video.
Have you tried "I can't believe it's not Jojen?" paste?
I relate bran eating the “weirwood” paste to Dany drinking the Shade of the Evening.
I really should be going to bed, you cold-hearted villain.
Licking toads, getting high, having visions. I’ll bet a god damn hippie wrote this story.
That Varamyr prologue had me almost as gripped as the prologue to The Eye of the World in the Wheel of Time series.
Weirwood seeds. I remember someone dropping some acorns on a gravesite for a fallen person as a grave marker and it alluding to be a weirwood. Maybe what makes weirwood seeds is acorns + corpses.
I should also point out that "weir" in weirwood sounds the same as "vir" or "man" in Latin. Which is also the derivation of werewolf and to become part man-part-wolf it is necessary to be bitten by a werewolf. So there's an element of the cannibalistic in classical horror tropes that George seems to be tapping into.
wer is old english for man, derived from the proto germanic weraz and means male, similar to middle high german wér (man) or proto indo european wihros (also man)
so in short, weirwood is similar to werewolf (Wërwolf (germanic man-wolf)) it's just not a man wolf but a man tree
painfully obvious given the trees have faces and literally bleed blood
I'm pretty sure that George was aware of both these linguistic origins when he named the weirwoods. He's far too full of history and mythology not to have used that name *very* deliberately.
Maybe all these rules were created to avoid the creation of the next 3 eyed crow
Then Bran is in for some hot furry action soon
About weirwood seeds...there's some suggestion that the weirwood network connects underground, in which case the trees may proliferate by rhizome spreading, like bamboo. This would eliminate the need for seeds (although bamboo can also spread through seeds).
Nope, they are planted from people. Garth plants werewoods, meaning they are proliferated somehow by transplantation or seeding. And the jojen paste is "werewood seed paste". It's spelled out in the books.
"a Donner Party worse than the Red Wedding"
* begrudgingly likes *
Honestly when Wyman Manderly served the pies it made me hungry
Hungry for Frey blood!😈
@@dirtygiraffe just mind that you are what you eat.
@ I'm vegetarian, so I guess that makes me a vegetable...😄
I can relate!
Frey pie is people!
11:38 actual footage of Howland Reed
"We've never seen Weirwood trees."
Yes. Because they're not plants. Weirwoods are giant fungi, or something analogous.
Yes, I could have gone into that more, but that's exactly how I see them, as fungi organisms. All the evidence points to that
@@jackiec9139 Well, both Dany and Aeron sure have some extreme shroom trips when drinking shade of the evening. And Euron, only the Gods knows what kind of trips Euron has been on...
@@dirtygiraffe ego trips
@@twiggyjali I'm sure Euron are on ego trips all the time, with or without the shade of the evening, that's just the kind of guy he is.
Poor Aeron on the other hand(spoilers for tWoW) sounds like he had one of the worst trips one could ever get.
Really what points to that? Cool
'Weirwood seeds' she said,I think she is referring to all the wargs and greenseers that are either connected to the weirwood network or has greenseer or warg blood in them,in that case jojen,vyrmyr,jon,Arya,and the other wargs and greenseers are all weirwood seeds.
Thank God Arya or Jon Was Not In That Cave.
The seed is wrong.
I mean, strong. 😑
@@made-line7627 wrong it is
Every time that bowl of paste is flashed on screen, I get a little more nauseous. I may not eat for a while.
Every time that bowl of paste is flashed on screen, I get a little more hungry.
people will cry Ethics whenever Bran eats the flesh of man or wargs into Hodor, but will justify the actions committed during the War of the Five Kings
Awesome video. I think GRRM also introduced a cannibalism moment, albeit more subtly, w/Rickon in AGOT. After Shaggydog bites Maester Luwin, it says:
Rickon patted Shaggydog's muzzle, damp with blood. "I let him loose. He doesn't like his chains." He licked at his fingers.
Did Shaggy lick Rickon's fingers, or did Rickon lick his own fingers? If the latter is true, Rickon essentially drank Luwin's blood. I always find this super creepy.
This passage also has me wondering if Rickon was actually who Jojen was looking for as Rickon's wolf was the only one we're told was literally bound to earth by chains. But that's here nor there I suppose.
In Fellowship of the Ring: the Ring goes south, there’s this quote: “Sam was standing by the pony, sucking his teeth”
No. He was seeing Bran because Bran was supposed to be able to (spiritually) fly but was limited by his self-hatred over his disability.
I think the weirwood/ bizarro undying ww paste plus various other experiences represent the downhill trajectory and corrupting aspect of evil. Once you’re past the first taste, becoming a twisted version of a formerly good person gets easier each time, as what’s likely happening with bran and dany. Euron was crazy from the jump so he probably loved it.
Great insight there! I like it
Fantastic insight! So true.
@@tracymetherell8744 Thank you!
The weirwoods are not evil, though.
@@urthboundmisfit I am inclined to agree, that to these characters, the weirwoods aren't evil; I failed to specify to which I was referring, and that's on me.
However, to me the Weirwoods aren't "good", as they come with the cost of human sacrifice to access its powers, and if not human sacrifice, you sacrifice your humanity (a la the 3-eyed crow)
Upon further reflection, I don't think either tree is good/bad; they're indifferent, but they demand a very high price from the characters who wish to gain their power.
Man, seldom have I been more gratefull for being a vegetarian for all of the 36 years I've been on this crazy planet. And when I want to trip I can just go mushroom picking in the fall, and all my mossy eyed friends can feel safe.
Not really wanting to be an all powerfull godlike greenseer-warg anyway. But my white Direwolf... ehm, I mean Siberian Husky, might have other plans though... Sometimes he growles in his sleep when we share the bed, and I'm sure he's aware that my eyes are green too.
Hahah you're just a snack baby
@@DavidLightbringer I'd rather be eaten by him then the common worms in the earth.😉
I’ve never clicked on a video more quickly in my life
After watching: WEIRWOOD PASTE IS PEOPLE!!!
Once I get my shit together, I'm going straight to your Patreon. Your channel is as bright as the flames of R'hllor!
It could be Jojen's blood only in the bowl, mixed with substances. The description of weirwood paste is similar to Dany tasting shade of the evening. Both contain drugs which make them hallucinate familiar tastes. Many cultures throughout history believed blood contained life force.
Yes, I'm open to the idea they are just bleeding him as well
They really should have included this in the show (they could have just implied it). It would have made it more interesting when Bran sits the throne. One of the interesting things about the story is that characters are morally grey. I sympathise with the CotF but their long game is chilling and not "good"
Totally agreed as to the element this would have added
Your long game wouldn't be sunshine and fairy farts either if your people had been nearly killed off by invaders.
I still don't understand how people agreed to Bran being king. he'd done nothing, and has no training in governance.
Going to be heartbreaking when Bran finds out.
What heart?
I keep hoping that's what turns him away from Bloodraven.
Ok, I think someone might have already said this but: the trees are mushrooms, that were once people.
Think about it, the trees are connected to each other (via mycelium), the trees are a source of visions and hallucinations (much like shrooms) and I suspect the reason that the Three Eyed Raven is stuck in the tree not because he impaled himself on it, but rather it sprouted from him. I suspect that Green Seers are infected with this fungus, and it provides them abilities in a semi-dormant state, however, overtime, the infection begins to overtake the man. So they sequester themselves away, take root, and become the trees.
Is this supposed to be a scientific explanation /rationalization?
@@sean5558 Yes.
@@gingergrant1057 is it necessary to have a scientific explanation for this world , Can’t there just be a world GRR Martin created that has magic for magic and wonders sake like Tolkien and others without a scientific rationale. Let them be sinister magic trees inhabited by the spirits of the Children
@@sean5558 not how his world works
I think the weirwoods are just one giant conal Grove that all share the same root system
What is an absolute A+ of a video. The artwork, the jokes, and the theory building itself. Thank you for the compilation and thank you so much because this must have taken days.
Are you a father? Cause that was alot of BAD dad jokes. However everyone made me llaugh.
There actually was animal mating kind of hinted at well when Varymyr Six-Skins talks about when he slips into the female wolf he says he always gets "mounted" or "slid into by One eye." Just thank God GRRM didn't go into too much detail there with: “Ol' One-Eye.” 🤔😱
While weirwood seeds were never mentioned, there must be some way to grow them. Given all their connections to blood sacrifice, I'd guess you would need some blood to grow weirwoods. Which means that technically the child of the forest wasn't lying. It really was a weirwood seed paste.
They don’t grow from seeds, they’re made with magic, or were made with magic… and they’re all connected to each more like fungus than plant
So how do you think they kill Jojen or take his blood and make the paste that Bran consumes?
I’m imagining Jojen pinioned to the tree like Bloodraven and the roots are all twisting through his body and removing his blood.
Then in a TWOW chapter, Bran will find Jojens hollow corpse in some cave outlet and the CotF will be like “we had to do it to awaken your gift” and Bran will GTFO of that cave 😅
I think this is very possible actually, yeah.
Lucifer means Lightbringer can’t frickin wait for these TWOW chapters!!
Great livestream today homie 👌🏼
You specifically mention you believe Bran needs the weirwood paste to be prepared for his greenseer future. Do you think Bloodraven underwent a similar process after he went north of the wall? Who do you think guided him in his journey?
The Raven's Teeth.
Well «weirwood seeds» could literally be a metaphorical term for any worg, skinchanger, singer. After all weirwood trees seam to be the source of green wizards powers , which could mean they are the children of the weirwood trees , and what are the children of trees !? Seeds ! Jo was a green wizard, so he was a child of weirwoods therefore he was «weirwood seeds» ! I should probably continue to watch the video, I am sure this analogy was been better explained in it at some point !
*WEIRWOOD* *PASTE* *IS* *PEOPLE* !!!
I really think you need to do a special episode on "Disgusting ASOIAF." If you can make this fun and palatable, you can do anything!
I might be wrong but I swear there are pigs at crasters keep as I remember Jon or Sam remarking on the fact that it is weird that there are pigs this far north in clash of kings or storm of swords and if coldhands just came back from crasters it might be it is pork.
Believe you’re thinking of goats, as Craster left multiple for the Others in sacrifice. I could be wrong though it’s been a while since I’ve read Clash.
He had some pigs, they'd all been slaughtered by the time the survivors from the fist get there. Some of the crows are talking about hams and bacon.
I totally just sat down with my dinner....of pasta n red sauce....yeah cant eat that now 🤣
Did it have those stringy bits of tomato in it?
@@sleekoduck no it didn't thank the gods , but it was that white and red combo...
@@kimberlygl36 Any mossy eyed Crannogmen gone missing around your area the last few days?🤔
The ultimate broke ass student meal lol. Man, I don't miss those days
@@Truffle_Pup Pasta or Crannogmen?
Great job! I have to be honest, it was nice to watch a video from you that was less than 2 hours long lol
I totally love the longer stuff and hope you don’t stop, but a shorter (and more focused) video is just so much easier to fit into my day
"WEIRWOOD PASTE IS PEOPLE!!!" I laughed way too hard at that.
I'm pretty sure Martin didn't intend half of the wordplay you use
But if he did... He is even smarter and wickeder than I thought
I absolutely love your videos and your humor! Please keep up the amazing work! Edit: just got to the part where it says "*actual footage of Howland Reed" and literally laughed out loud! Absolutely love it!
Magic always has a price
Love that theme in ASOIAF. It's so deep when you realise it.
It's pretty much confirmed by Jojen's death in Game of Thrones. They didn't want to do Jojen paste in the show, so they killed him off outright instead of having him be missing.
Nope, not Jojen paste! I absolutely agree that the foreshadowing for Bram eating Jojen is there however I don't think he's in the paste. We establish in the vision that Bran knows what blood tastes like, as his life flowed out of him Bran could taste the blood. He says the paste tastes bitter and compares it to acorn paste. Not to mention it is white, so at most there's just a splash of Jojen, but I still think Bran would have tasted it. But my biggest reason to disagree is the parallel with the shade of the evening! Both are psychedelics that change from icky to tasty as you drink, and they come from trees with opposite colors. They are clearly parallel substances so I think they are both from trees. Although if they needed to sacrifice Jojen to put his green dream power into the paste, that covers the sacrifice, and maybe once Bran has learned more he will willingly eat Jojen
Nope. Brains is white. Brains wouldn't taste like blood. A white, gelatenous paste, which is exactly how GMM describes it. Nice try.
Oh my God I absolutely love the title of the video! It makes me really sad that more people don’t get this reference!
I made all my best jokes in this one
Was literally eating a chicken pie while watching this
Finally a new Video. Liked it right away
Me trying to keep up with all the eating- and frog-puns:
I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there I see what you did there
etc.
Bon appetit Brandon lol. Tons of foreshadowing I didn’t know existed! Great stuff as always.
9:50 You know, in the Vale of Arryn there is a godswood without a heart tree because it couldn't take root due to stony soil. Before the root comes the seed.
They could have been trying to transplant, sounds to me.
@@DavidLightbringer Isn't that another instance of something never heard of in this universe?
I wonder which part of Jojen was used since the bowl obviously didn’t have the whole thing, the heart does have some connotations regarding vitality and power, and the brain is mush enough that it probably wouldn’t be too hard to turn into paste, would need some food coloring to hide the grey color though.
I’m thinking it was Jojen brains yeah
Fresh brains actually look white-pink, not grey. Especially young brains. The gray-ness is only very slight. It also has rivers of red running through it.
The taste does not match. Brains taste like cream and butter and pork and cod liver all combined (although I've never had human brain, it's made of similar components to pig and lamb brain). Cod liver is a rather mild fishy taste. That overlapping fishy taste comes from oxidized long chain omega 3 fatty acids, especially the DHA in the brain.
But the CotF have powerful magic. They could easily alter the taste, or at least Bran's perception. This also means that in order for the paste to be a werewood seed paste (ie the children telling the truth, which they seem to always do) the were wood trees have to be made of people. Or they could have simply seasoned it with weird plants, brain is mild in flavor, and also magic is going.
Love the editing, lol'd hard at that ATHF scene. Great stuff, love your work.
Excellent video to watch while cooking dinner. 10/10 would recommend
Been waiting for another upload like this! Keep up the good work sir
As you say we don't know what Weirwood seeds look like or if they even exist, it's said Garth the Green planted Weirwoods but again no details on how he did that. Perhaps Bloodraven and the children didn't lie to Bran so much as exclude details about the paste. It could be made of Weirwoods seeds if corpses, or greenseers in particular are somehow used to plant Weirwoods. Jojen, and perhaps Meera as well, being the seeds. This would also make Garth the Green seem more like a conqueror than the merry 'too good to be true' Johnny Appleseed of Westeros that he's made out to be.
Oh I just missed this, a min ago but here we go.
Wait. Why the hell did you have ranch dressing next to your cereal. Ohhh god Never mind. I dont want to know why.
Nicely done. Appreciate the quality
Also, man, that Omer88 Coldhands picture is absolutely badass.
Ser Tommard Long I need a Coldhands reveal in WoW!!!!
Funny, well thought out and well sourced as usual! Keep the content coming to help us get through the seemingly endless wait for Winds.
I was just thinking today when we'd get a new LML video. Rejoice!
Your serenade of your viewers ROCKED!
𝚁̶𝚎̶𝚍̶ ̶𝙱̶𝚞̶𝚕̶𝚕̶ Jojen gives you wings.
🥁
All the work you have done for the series is so unique and eye opening. You have reveled many secrets and an overall understanding of ASOIAF, but I think more than that, you have discovered a way (Georges way rather) that each characters arc is laid out. And now that the story makes more sense we can guess at the many paths of the future ( when expectations are subverted it will be because their are so many options).
Arya is also eating "Pork" in Bravos
Shade of the evening and the Candle Arya smells in Bravos has a shifting taste.
The fact that the "Pork, the other white meat" commercial exists is just endlessly entertaining and prefect
@@DavidLightbringer I don't think I can trust you until I see Quinn post again... Especially after you very unconvincing claims to not cannibalized his brain....
One of your most entertaining videos.
Anyone else watch this video over dinner? Is that weird?
Good one. The description "meat of the tight" I think it was a call to the fact the leg doesn't have any feelings as bran is paraplegic. Meat as in dead flesh. But of course it could a double entendre.
This has been bugging me lately: "Your blood makes you a green seer" he means that generally. Everyone really thinks Jojen is the green seer, not Bran (due to the green eyes and green dreams) ...so "your blood makes you a green seer" could really mean Jojen and by eating Jojen, Bran indeed does take on his powers to be wed to the trees.
I don't feel like simply eating paste (no matter who or what it's made of, lol) would be enough. Eating the frog boy was necessary.
I think once I heard the phrase “weirwood seed” I knew it was a person. Mainly because weirwoods are almost certainly created via human sacrifice especially the sacrifice of a green-seer.
That intro!!🤣🤣
Great content as always
Loved the many puns. I giggled much listening to this . Thank you for info and lols
Man, David, I just have to sayI'm new here by a few weeks and I am so sad I didn't check you out more thoroughly when I heard you on with Gray Area several years ago. But I'm making up for lost time. One of my closest friends also discovered you independently almost exactly when I did. We agree that we appreciate you so much and love all the ways you make this the absolute very best youtube channel alive. We love the theatrics, your original music, the wit and all the nutty references to obscure movies, songs, tv shows and even books. We marvel at how you make what you're doing look easy. We enjoy the community you have fostered here. We totally geek out with your handle on symbolism, mythology and preceding great works of literature.
What else? You are truly brilliant and very lovable and kind with an edgy dark streak not to mention a real snappy dresser to boot and plenty easy on the eyes. (Shout out to Minty!)
On behalf of my roommate and myself, I'd like to offer our most heartfelt gratitude for you and all your co-hosts and Minty and Cleo, too, and for all that you all do for us fans out here.
Bravo! Kudos! THANK YOU!!!!
When I first read that passage by Varamyr on abominations...my first thought were “ these were all things the COTF have done for thousands of years”. In my opinion, the COTF were powerful because they manipulated and altered the natural world in their favor..humans just followed the example.
Soylent Green is where GRRM came up with the Brown in Flea Bottom
Eating White Walker meat can’t be good for you......
Yes!!! Seeing a new LmL video makes my day!
Heck ya!! Good stuff my dude!
what a great way to start the weekend
Great video love your content. Also oatmeal squares are the bomb!
Ah yes, my favorite ASOIAF theory to watch while eating Whataburger
I have watched many vidros from this channel, this is my favorite by far!!!!!
Let me tell you!! You get f'ing excited when your phone ding's and it says Lucifer means lightbringer weirwood paste is people. Whaaaaatttt!?!??! Love your content bro!! You are the master of mythological astronomy my friend
i think you've added levels martin never dreamed of.
Thats funny. I live a couple of houses down from one the survivors of that plane crash . Love form Uruguay, LML🍖
This was somehow fun video lol! I love your content Lml