$150 Seiko 5 vs. $7,000 Grand Seiko: What's the difference?
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The difference is $6,850...
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I'd keep the Seiko 5 .
you’re paying for the spring drive on grand seiko
Paying for marketing bollox as well @@todwstam
Grand seiko hardly markets, a lot of hand work goes into these watches and the engineering to make the spring drive blows my mind. @keefw361
For the price - seiko 5 but….. GS just produces watches you could stare at every day for the rest of your life.
Real
@@notaulgoodman9732Illusion
It looks boring
i dont own a GS so i cant speak about that, but i catch myself staring at my SNXS79 everytime i wear it
I have budget for self-esteem present to myself.
I'm impressed GS Springdrive.
I just realized I would store it in a vault.
It would be a huge waste of art.
Watch reviews also started to remember me to Andersen's tale about The Emperor's New Clothes.
Moonphase, second hand, lume, 'swiss made' and many other features are not important to me.
So I just bought a Casio A500 and use the budget to something else.
But I respect every kind of other decisions.
God that Snow White dial is a dream
Yeeeaah but that is not a Snowflake dial if you thought that
@@assolutamenteno5980 then what is it?
@@neilpateldptclouds
The SBGH311 is the "Unkai" (literally means sea of clouds). For the Snowflake, search for SBGA211.
@@neilpateldpt limited edition SBGH311 known as ‘sea of clouds’ or ‘Unkai’ in Japanese
Seiko 5, all day long. I have one sinds 1991.Dark blue dail. Never had a problem. Never going to leave my collection.
Best sane comment
The GS is very accurate more than Rolex from what I read.
Depends on the movement, but certainly possible. My GS here is a hi-beat that’s on par with my neovintage Rolex, around +2/-2s per day. My hand wound mechanical GS is closer to +8-10spd. I’m hoping to get a Spring Drive next which would be more like 0.5spd!
@@everydaycarryif your GS is nearly 10 seconds a day, it needs servicing.
My Spring drive gained 13 seconds in 6 months. My GS quartz gained 3 seconds in 9 months. Both are magnitudes more accurate than a Rolex.
My 53 year old GS is -1/2 spd. My next is going to have a 9f movement with +\- 5 seconds a year. No Rolex will come close to that.
Your Spring Drive is quartz regulated. Your quartz is, well, quartz. When you compare Grand Seiko automatics to Rolex automatics, Rolex wins.
Watch vs Jewellery
What's the difference? Well apart of a dial that is stunning on GS you forgot to mention THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, and that is movement. While Seiko 5 has ordinary automatic movement the GS has a spring drive which is a hybrid between quartz-mechanical/automatic movement that basically overcomes mechanic/automatic watch accuracy problem (gives it a quartz watch accuracy which is INSANE) and YET it still has the most clean second hand sweep in the history of horology. That is the difference that 6 850$ gets you...
Normally, yes. But this specific GS is no spring drive
I'd just go paranoid if I wore 7k on my wrist.
Broke mentality
That's fucked up
You wouldn't if you could afford it, but of course not be stupid and wear it in situations that requires a rugged watch
You only live once
@@christianbautista321 it really depends on the watch. A Rolex sport watch, such as the Submariner and GMT Master, are very tough and can handle anything. I wear my Submariner while working on cars, big trucks, skiing, woodworking, etc.
It is built to be worn every day, in extreme weather and during all sorts of activities.
A seiko 5 for $150 is a steal. I got my sports seiko 5 for $250 on sale.
And i have on my wrist the same
A couple of years ago this watch cost 70€ incl. Taxes (at least in Europe)
@@sebastiankraus9131I paid £40 for my 5 back in 2016 haha. Crazy to see how much people are happy to pay for them now!
You got screwed.
The newer Seiko 5's are a lot more expensive than the one shown in the video. Back then, Seiko 5's costed less than 100 euro/dollar new, nowadays they are at least 300 euro/dollar and are now called Seiko 5 Sports.
Seiko 5! A legend for already 50 years!
Very good readability and price-worthy!
It has a simple, self-developed movement of Seiko without Chronometer Certificate. But if you're able to open the watch by yourself and adjust it you can tune it down to +/- 3 seconds per day or even less. It's incredibly accurate! 😃👍
That snxs can be that accurate ? For real ? I had one and I love it but it’s not accurate at this moment
@@jeff346 Under certain conditions: yes!
When you have a mechanical watch storage it over night (8 to 10 hrs) in the 5 standard positions (12 down, face up, face down, crown down etc.). Find out the most extreme advances and retards. Mechanical watches run in advance in winter when the balance spring is shorter and in retard in summer when the balance spring is longer.
If you compare every few days the time of your mechanical watch with a reliable source (for example a radio controlled watch) and you storage your watch over night in a position accordingly you can achieve a very, very high accuracy of your mechanical watch, even of a Seiko 5!
It will not happen by itself and out of the box. But if you make the fundamental reglage by yourself and keep an eye on your watch - it is possible! 😉👍
You can't compare a entry level seiko 5 to a hand crafted grand seiko... but I'll take the SNXS79 any day over an over priced watch.
That Grand Seiko is absolutely not hand crafted, what are you talking about?
@@kresimirpleic all gs are handcrafted to a certain degree. Movements, polishing, etc.
@@SadatKR GS movements are machine made and mass produced. They are absolutely not hand crafted. Tin plate polishing (Sallaz or Zaratsu as they pronounce it) does not make a watch hand crafted. Do you people know how rare hand crafted watches are?
@@kresimirpleic GS movemenets are hand assembled.
@@SadatKR You have no idea what you're talking about. You started off with hand crafted and now you're already at hand assembled. GS is a mass produced luxury watch. They feature machine made movements that are also machine decorated. There is literally nothing special about GS that would set them apart from other mass produced luxury brands. Apart from their marketing department, which is the best in the business. GS is not high horology, forget about hand crafted watches.
Thanks for the up load . A far better movie than I thought it was going to be .
Grand Seiko is the best watch on the planet.
by far... perfection!
Agree 100%
Objectively not but they’re pretty great nonetheless
Lmao no
Grand Seiko is nowhere near being the best watch on the planet. What a silly statement!
Maybe saying it has no loom is misleading. Sometimes the hands and indices have a sheen so that any light, even moonlight, can be caught. This way, you can see the hands with even that little bit of reflection. Honestly, I wish more watches did this. I have a Seiko I got in a pawnshop, and it does this. It is the 7N32-0B00.
This. I have 2 Grand Seikos and what you say is true. The dial hands and markers reflect everything.
In the dark means no light. So what do you do on a cloudy night? When the moon is a new moon? Watches have lume for a reason.
@@bigdreams5554 You’re saying I don’t know that reason?
Dress watches often have no lume. Otherwise you need big indices.
The gs skyflake is the best watch ever with its springdrive movement and beautiful look
Seikos are good “for the price” they work, they’re reliable and they look decent. It’s like buying a Toyota or a rolls Royce. Both cars but that’s where the similarities end.
They’re both superb for their own reasons. The Seiko 5 is insanely good value. The GS has nothing to do with value, and everything to do with hand crafted artistry, spring drives, amazing complications… why are people here trash talking either of them?
The Grand Seiko is mesmerising! I got it too! It’s better than any Rolex Datejust you can buy 😌😌😌
Seiko 5 because I wouldn't be scared to wear it.
Why be afraid to wear the GS? There's not really any elevated risk of theft because nobody will recognize it for what it is. My go-to 'lazy' watch is a GS quartz for when I don't feel like winding and setting an automatic.
@@Sporkmaker5150 Damage! All my watches have dings and scratches on them because they're 'working watches.' I'd be mortified if I damaged a Grand Seiko. There's no need for one anyway other than vanity.
@@johntate5050...Watches are made to be worn and they all will show signs of wear after awhile
@@johntate5050I’d prefer more scratches that shows I actually wears that watch , to me it tells a story of me
The Seiko 5 is my most accurate mechanical watch. And I got it for only $100. I'm satisfied lmao
That GS is the newest on my wishlist. Love that cloud/river dial. Even at 37mm, I would rock it on my Swiss wrist.
Great video
As an owner of that seiko 5 snxs79 i would not spend 6k on a grand seiko but by a speedmaster
I own a speedmaster and seamaster, and I'd choose grand seiko any day.
@salhudson6497 I own a snowflake and speedmaster and snowflake details are crazy. If you try a snowflake next to something like rolex op, you can tell the GS is better.
Have that same seiko 5 in blue, swap the bracelet out to a decent jubilee (20-40$) and it will look better than the rolex OP. No better value in market rn, and due to them being discontinued and replaced by a 400$ remaster, you better be quick.
The dials on all GS are mesmerising……I’m seriously considering getting one, the cherry blossom or snow flake maybe. ❤
Both watches are nice but what it comes down to is the movements inside the watch, the hours of craftsmanship, materials, and the brand’s history/status.
This watch was bought fifty-five years ago, but I did not see a sample of it anywhere, and I did not see a sample of it in the collection. Can you explain about it?
Seiko 5 for every day at the office.
Grand seiko for formal events. Springdrive is awesome to behold. Buttery smooth movement. No loom means hands highly reflective even in little light.
i love sunray grey dials. i have the spb143 and sje093 they’re my favorite.
I like Seiko a lot . I bought a Presage 140th anaversary 300 meter professional and its beautiful however the lume is far behind my Tag Professional 300 GMT. But I really dig both.
Honestly, I like the 5 better. While I can appreciate the GS dial as a neat thing to look at once, it doesn't feel like something I'd want to wear on a regular basis. The only thing about it I prefer is the hand set, and that sure as hell ain't worth nearly 7 grand.
True that, Seiko announced a presage "classic" series, looks beautiful but it is probably closer to the Seiko 5 in price which might be something I would be more comfortable wearing more often.
@@ArtyMcMuffin Just copied from the announcement: " The three new Seiko Presage Classic Series references have a retail of $950 and will be available beginning in June."
Doesn't sound very close to the 5 to me.
@@dustinhertel7261 thanks, good to know. Closer to the 5 than the GS but still...
@@ArtyMcMuffin Ah. It sounded like you were saying they were closer to the 5 than the previous Presage releases (which are about 1/3 of that price).
Seiko five for the win😮
The only way it wins is its the only watch in the race
You can easily see the GS in low light because the finish is perfect on the indices.
a watch WITHOUT Lume ?
No thanks !!
*Like, I totally live in Bel-Air. I don't even know anyone who owns a Grand Seiko* 😅
Seiko5 is nothing like the Rolex datejust. Honestly is an offense to both brands
i respect and own both brands. no offense meant by the comparison
The difference is that you pay more money just to have the word grand in front of Seiko in the dial.
“Which do you think is better for the price?” Proceeds to compare a scooter to a Porsche 911.
You and 7 others evidently fail to comprehend the very basic question. 😂
I would more compare this as an old Toyota Corolla to a Porsche 911
Both are cars that take you from point A to point B
Both watches tell you the time (because let’s be honest; watches are a luxury items we indulge in but at the end of the day their main function is to tell time lol)
For the price: a used solid reliable car that I use to commute to work makes more sense
Just like for the price, a solid Seiko 5 that looks good, has lume, mechanical and reliable makes sense
Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion.
@@MusicNTempo Corolla & Seiko 5 get my vote.
Does it have the spring drive movement? If so the GS...
That GS is gorgeous!
I own and love both.
Nice review, is it Seiko 5 good for big wrist/hands ?
Depends on what you're comfortable with, but both watches shown here are 37mm. That's considered "midsize" these days, or potentially even small, but with such classic styling I think it'll work on any wrist honestly.
Which one tell the better time ?
Or you can go for the Seiko 6N52-00A0, is almost the same Grand Seiko but under 200 dollars. For me it just does not make any sense buying a Grand Seiko...
Comparable. The other is a day date rolex but with cheaper materials but gives same time abit inaccurate than a quarts watch which is so far the most closest movement near to atomic clock. The GS comes close to the quarts accuracy but adds 6000$ more to it. Who cares as long as it makes you happy it is what matters. I rock 50 seikos on rotation to avoid paying single GS or rolex plus I use the change and now I own a 🏡 is just the bonus. Lols My house is also hand built
Dude!!! Care to mention the spring drive in GS?
I don't think that watch has a spring drive movement
Does anyone know the reference number for the Seiko 5 ? Thank you.
SNXS79K1
The difference: the Seiko 5 is 100% made in China/Malaysia, etc., lacks any strictest production and quality control. It's a mass product.
Grand Seiko is 100% made in Japan, from the single screw up to the watch case, it has to pass strictest manual quality checks during the entire production process.
And it is manually assembled by Seiko's best watchmakers.
The 2 watches cannot be compared.
Those who can afford to buy Grand Seikos do not need lumed dials and hands....
I’m sorry but I would never spend $7,000 on a Grand Seiko. Their designs are uninspired and overpriced. For the same money you could get an Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra. Much classier design in my opinion.
To each his own I guess.
Can you show us all your collection of watches you are really very inspiring
still takin the Seiko 5 over the Grand
Great vid. TBH, I'll have a lumed watch any day over one without lume. While GS may think that their Zaratsu can make their watch legible in low light... it can't do anything in no light though. 😢 Much like a diamond can be beautiful - but still cannot be seen in the dark, can it?
The DressKX is nice!
I like this
What's on your wrist though?
Seiko misled me in the 90’s with my nice looking titanium kinetic watch that never needs a battery, but every 5-7 years needs a new capacitor for $80.00 to $100.00 including shipping. Never again will I spend a lot of money on a Seiko.
What about the movements??
Just forgot to mention the movement that is out of this world... Tiny detail..
A sensible person buys a seiko and a stupid person with a trust fund buys a grand seiko.
$150? bro overpaid
Hands-down!! Seiko 5 is a much better looking watch and conforms to the old adage, less is more.
The Seiko 5 is a rite of passage for watch enthusiasts. It’s great for the price. But the closer you look at watches the more you understand the value of more expensive ones. And once you start buying better watches you quickly get annoyed with the shortcomings of entry level ones. The GS is in another galaxy from the Seiko 5.
Who pays 7 grand for a seiko, can kiss that investment goodbye
The answer is in the title.
Dude comparing a Ferrari to a Toyota…… the Toyota has this steering wheel, the Ferrari has this steering wheel. Which do you think is better for the price. Lolsies. Ai ai ai. Dude, it goes a bit deeper than the dial donut ya fink?
The dial, the polish, and the bracelet looks better connected/built
At 50 times the prices … I could almost have a different Seiko 5 for each week of the year.
Different colors
Different hands
Different straps
And
Different bands
Grand Seiko is a God-tier-level and a must for all watch enthusiasts with money like that who earned the right to wear this beautiful timepiece because of hard work. As a below-average lazy person like ME who has not yet earned the right to wear GS, I'll take the beautiful Seiko 5 for $150, invest the $6,850 & enjoy a nice, memorable vacation in Southeast Asian countries for an affordable trip wearing my Seiko 5. Even if it got stolen or lost, I would be ok to get another 😉. Plus, I would have some leftover money to buy more Seiko 5 or Casio digital retro watches like a Casio Royale, F91W, A158WA, A168WA & more.
for a new gs price tudor better or omegas
GS is better value
Chronometer grade
Case is more refined
Bracelet is more refined
Can be argued its better than a Rolex
Seiko 5 great beater and bang for buck but if I was given choice GS every time
Both are great, but the GS is a different beast altogether. Movement!!
Nothing beats 5 for its value
The dial aside… The Hi-Beat movement of the GS is mechanical perfection, with gorgeous craftsmanship. They’re a bargain for the price. He should’ve shown the exhibition case back…
Get a Seiko 5 with the 4R36 movement and you'll pay a bit more and have crown winding and hacking.
Could you give a reference number or model name for the Seiko 5?
yup its the SNSX79, there's a link in the description for your convenience as well
@@everydaycarry thanks a lot! Its a beautiful timepiece
Aren’t theyshould have different mechanisms?
It’s like comparing a wheelchair to a rolls royce, both get you from A to B other than that no comparison
Its like school football match and world cup football match.
Anybody who’s owned a GS knows that the lume is not a concern due to how the indices and hands reflect the light back.
I got a king samurai manta and yhe lume is shokingly bright.
I don't think a short really does justice to the differences between these watches.
The GS isn't 30 times the price just because it's more beautiful - but also because of the extra build quality and effort and time that go into it. Of course, you can't go into all that in 30 sec, but it's a shame.
There’s definitely some diminishing returns when you go up in price with watches
Try women. 😂
It's not all about Dial difference the caliber 97 spring drive and 7s26 is also a huge difference
I've noticed that even GS uses the same marketing tactics as Seiko by purposely not making a "perfect" watch. In this case, the best-looking dials on GS usually don't come with a spring drive.
Don’t forget the Shunbun is a titanium case which is more expensive than stainless steel and the movement is far more accurate (+/- 1 second per day)
The Seiko is better for the price. The Rolex is also good. But it the Name that carries the hefty price.
When you get older you get smarter. A $100 watch or a $1000 watch will show you the same time. Learn how to be happy rather than how to show off your watch.
I have that Seiko 5 in that colour and there is NO watch that is better value
The Difference is the price and movement.
Similarities both watches could last for a lifetime.
Hey man, I don't care what you see on the websites, but that's just a black dial on the Seiko 5. Not anything like a sunburst colour scheme 😅
they both are reliable and tell the time. The difference is...price.
Toyota or Lexus? Seiko or Grand Seiko? All differences and similarities aside, doesn’t it come down to value vs. vanity?
The Lexus compared with a Toyota … no … Lexus IS a really nice car…compared with a good car but more a workers car. The grand seiko compared to seiko 5 is less different but 40 to 50 times the price. Whereas the Lexus very nice car but is not 50 times the price of a Toyota.
You forgot the gs strap…it’s one of the best strap I’ve ever seen…
The reality is the Grand Seiko will sell for $2000 below list in 20 years. The Seiko will sell for $150 above list in 20 years. You can either lose $2000, or make $150.
The only thing I don't like taht much on grand seikos is the font in the date window
The only reason someone purchases a watch in the thousands is for the name and to impress others. A Citizen watch or even an Apple watch will outperform any watch. A Seiko, Grand or not, will never impress anyone. So just purchase a Rolex and you are set at the high end.
Seiko 5 all the way simple elegant
The difference, besides the hand crafting, is the movement.
GS is out of my league, so i went Orient Star.
Both tell the same time. So be wiser and save the extra $6,850.
One has a moron tax added to it, to the tune of $6850