Sidearm Hyzer Flip - How to Throw, When to Use
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2022
- What is a Sidearm Hyzer Flip is, when to use it and how to throw it.
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The left finish on that last turnover shot ... was freaking gorgeous
"Oh sorry, that's the Australian Version!" as he was holding his Lots upsidedown really got a big loud laugh out of me. Thanks for the friday morning laugh Uncle Stokely!
I've never seen a video addressing this hiccup of my game. Fantastic insight!
I am predominantly a forehand/sidearm player and I feel what you are giving out. Your videos got me able to throw backhand after 2 years of forehand only throws. I hope some backhand dominant players can experience your information and get to throwing that disc forehand exacting where they are looking. Love the content. Best of Health, Luck & Adventures to you sir!
I loved your realistic assessment of yourself about throwing a sidearm on a backhand hole, because you know your own strengths and weaknesses. Having that kind of mentality going into a tournament has saved me multiple strokes. Forgetting that, even on just 2-3 holes, and the punishment that happens is one of the most consistent phenomena of the known universe. BTW, what has helped me to avoid "serving the pizza" on my forehand is to change my grip: I used to use a standard two-finger forehand grip (two "straight" fingers), but now use a staggered two-finger forehand grip (like Paul McB's forehand grip). It honestly helps me to rotate my wrist more like throwing a ball, and it allows my to drop the outside edge of the disc down more when I want more of a hyzer (forehand) release.
I'm a 55/45 backhand/sidearm player and I often choose "more difficult" sidearms for gap hitting and touch as well. Something about the simplicity of the sidearm and less "turn-away" during the reach back makes it easier (at least for me) to get the most accuracy.
Idol-mode. "I've put a lot of time in my backhand and I've gotten pretty good at it.. but my sidearm is still better" love you, Scott.
This guy just love disc golf and wants to help make people better! Thanks for the help brotha
I had a pretty good sidearm naturally for the first few years I played and last year I tweaked my back and for a month couldn’t throw sidearms and when my back healed I felt like I lost everything. Been changing things and trying to relearn what I had and these videos help a ton. Thanks Scott!
Been working on this all month ty Scott
Another great video brother!! Loved and watched every min with focus. You just make golf look easy and I like your style and experience and how you express it👍
Another great video Scott. I too have a more accurate sidearm and use it often where most would throw a backhand. I love this shot for low ceiling drives and being accurate through the trees. Super important to have this one nailed down! Thanks for everything you do man. You've helped my game tremendously 🙌👍👍
Great stuff! I've been working on this for long uphill shots as I have a lot more power side arm than backhand and it's been working great for me.
Hyzer flip on a midrange through the trees, pure bliss.
It’s a great disc, I won a signed copy and Scott sent it to me free of charge. Thanks Scott.
The plastic isn’t like the other pro plastics. It is dense but grippy. I can’t throw it quite as far as some of my other, lighter, 9 speed discs, but it’s very stable and I use it to control distance.
I'm 58 my body not moving the same...going to try sidearm...just wanted to say thanks for your videos they do help me!
This video is fantastic. Thanks for the great info Scott.
Much love Scott. Was super cool to meet you with my wife in Vegas this year. I've learned a lot from your videos over the years as a rhfh player predominantly. I feel like the "ball throw" on different angles concept is one of the more helpful tips to get me out of that angle funk and smooth those wooded turnovers. Best of luck the back 9 of the season.
Ps you're my new favorite pro/teacher
I'm an ex-college baseball player with an above average arm. When I started playing disc golf I tomahawked everything. I could throw my tomahawk/thumber further than most average players I play with when they throw a backhand. I always said "If I can figure out the side arm I could throw this a mile." Well, I can throw it 150ft. That's it... One time, ONE time, I threw a good shot and the disc went passed the basket by 100ft. I'm going to keep at it but thank you for making all of these valuable videos because one day it's finally going to click for me and all the thanks will go to you!
This is awesome content and I am mind blown about the tip on fifteen degrees for the arm and just change the angle at the hip! Gonna try this tomorrow, thanks for the advice, Scott! Smooth hyzer flips
Dude….this was so well done. Thanks!! Subscribed.
Really helpful and informative video 👍
a ball, a ball, it's still a ball.. Scott's the man
My sidearm needs all the help it can get. Thanks for video Scott
I also sometimes throw side arm on a back hand hole if I need to hit a gap or I need more distance as I throw further side arm. Good stuff as usual, I learn more from you than anybody else 👍
I was dominant with the sidearm for my early years but developed pain in my elbow area. So I went to the doctor but Covid interrupted the process. I didn’t throw much and after a couple years i came back and learned backhand but, backhand is so much more difficult. Anyways I randomly bought a massage gun and started working it around my elbow and a miracle healing happened. Now I got my sidearm back at 400 ft and a backhand to match it. But throwing sidearm took zero training compared to the hours of practice for backhand.
I appreciate the video , I’ve been trying to get this down with some field work but trying to control my wrist from rolling is a big problem I’ve been having
Love the videos! It just take some of the charm of that there is always a lot of self advertising in the videos… I know you gotta sell your stuff but for me it’s a bit much. Once again, love you videos! Hope you have a great day!
Hey Scott! A big thank you for all the videos on sidearm! As it is definietly the weakest part of my game I am thrilled tp try and putt these tips into practice.
I have realised from watching you that I definietly throw way to much of a frisbee throw, have a pretty clean release it just ends up to nose up and always on hyzer.
So my hyzerflips with super understandable disc are actually not that bad just doesn't get the distance needed.
Also don't know if you've done this but would love to see you give your take and analyse some of the great sidearm throwers of today. What they do that works so well and maybe what doesn't. Were thinking of people like Eagle, Kooling, Hammes, Barsby, Lätt, Hookom and maybe yourself.
All the best and happy to hear that you are comming to Europe in 2023, hopefully!
Best sidearm thrower in the game 😲
Love this video! Attended a lesson you put on in Indianapolis where you gave pointers on one throw type and I picked backhand because it was my weakest throw but now I wish I picked sidearm! Next time I guess!
I already got my money’s worth from your online classes in the first month but I’m SO excited for the Forehands section bc I had a situation on the course yesterday where I drove into the right side of a huge bush and the only way I could’ve realistically saved par was with a serviceable sidearm approach shot from 100’. I managed to will my way to 35’ from the pin but on a pyramid like green, my missed C2 par save rolled away to 45’, then airballed my bogey save to circle’s edge, then missed my double bogey save by inches and tapped in for my first triple bogey in months. I was at -6 through 13, on pace for a personal best and a win in my division if I just parred 14-18, and the only thing that kept me from doing that…was a sidearm shot that could reliably get me 10’-20’ closer in a pinch.
Love your videos!
love sidearm hyzer flips
Thanks Scott
Holy fuck Scott... I know it's crazy but you saying it's a ball actually helped.. All other videos had me trying to serve up the pizza in the follow through and this actually made the difference first throw... Thank you!
Great video. I love this shot for tight woods holes with right to left fairways. My sidearm is a touch more accurate than my backhand same as you.
This so with a putter is so nice 😎 I also use a lot of sidearms if i need accuracy in the woods
I was just practicing this exact shot with the same disc this morning. Must be the full moon.
I was a backhand only player. Watched an old video from Stokely on how to throw sidearm. I started practicing with upshot’s from about 50’ to 100’ out. I started getting my aim down really well. Then I started adding more distance. I’m only throwing 280 to 320’ (depending on the wind). But the sidearm is more accurate for me in the woods and approaches.
Thanks 👍
I have such a hard time explaining to people how I throw sidearms further than backhands but this video is really how to. I always release side arms on hyzer even my stable discs I just throw them harder. I can throw a standstill understable fairway about 330-350 with just this hyzer flip technique.
Due to injuries and such, I only throw sidearm. I have a basket measured 165ft away and I have been practicing hyzer flips. 2 aces in 2 days with 2 different discs so. I have also found that for me a -2 turn 2 fade works great distance and I use an MVP Wave and a -2 turn 1 fade works great for shorter distances, which I use a Leopard Champion. I was also able to hit my max distance of 390 with the Wave.
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Thanks for this video, Scott! All of my friends play predominantly backhand, but sidearm has always come much easier to me. I need to keep working on backhand, but good to know I’m not broken for preferring sidearm, like you!
Question- Are you able to achieve the same distance sidearm as you would backhand? Right now my distance is basically exactly the same, but my accuracy is exponentially better sidearm.
I throw backhand farther.
My sidearms have always been better than my backhands. Excited to try this throw out
You give me hope that I'll play the masters some day.
I love my roadrunner for this.
King baby!
Scott, thanks a 'Lots'👍
Wow that went well over 300ft and low. Beautiful flight.
Wish I could do that. 58yo body does not work like these flexible young guys.
I have no physical disabilities so I'm always dreaming I could throw a consistent forehand, but never seems to happen. Most of the time my forehands just turn to much even overstable discs. Maybe 250ft at best.
Hope your video helps.
Dang that shot at 10:18 was insane if I had my eyes closed and then opened them after you threw, I would have bet anything it was a back hand. It was straight and then finished left. Crazy throw and so effort less!
wow great video but how how did the first one fade right and the second left? Is the wraith something you could do a left turn with like your last shot and would it be impossible with lets say a firebird?
*disc upside down*
"Sorry that's the Australian version" 💀💀😂
The hyzer flip forehand is hands down my favorite shot in the bag. For 300 I use either a shryke for huge turnover or a destroyer for a more mild turnover. It makes those difficult backhand required water holes not so bad. Thank you for the great videos Scott, and I can’t wait to see you throw more!
It's hilarious when people see me throw my forehand hyzer flip and are flabbergasted. SHRYKE for sure
I throw a S shot about 500 ft sometimes a bit further. Before I fell 4 stories at work I used to have a snap and released a side arm shot directly straight out from my body between Mt waist and chest for about the same. I lost that shot and I'm trying very hard to find it again.
Sidearm/ forehand shots can also be thrown with less throwing area than most backhands.
My distance has increased signifikant when I started laydown and bend my arm like a layed down V with my elbow infront of my wrist before the backswing and by doing that I can throw 350 without any noticeble flutter, but when trying to throw a ball i roll my wrist over and hurting my elbow or disc comming out wobbly and I cant figure out why..
My problem is I throw Left Hand Backhand, but Right Hand Forehand, so a fade to the left is difficult for me. Should I focus on more understable discs for those types of shots?
Do you throw the grymx? and if so do you throw that on hyzer flip sidearm?
Also when I went to your website to order the signed disc it only said the blue ones were signed. Was I late to the party ? I ordered a blue and a white. I'll play with the white one if it's not signed.
Hyzer Flip? Is this also some sort of track and field technical term like the Fosbury Flop? What happens if your Hyzer Flip fails and reverts, can I call it a Hyzer Flip-Flop?
Started throwing an astronaut like this and found more distance than ever achieved in standard backhand, and with a fraction of the physical exertion.
What disc is he using though?
RE: Where you said you throw a forehand on an obvious backhand - because the disc is spinning in opposite direction, wouldn't you want a forehand in some situations if you didn't want a lot of skip/ground play? Doesn't the different spin direction causes a different reaction off the ground?
Absolutely
So if I’m throwing an overstable disc sidearm with a hyzer flip it won’t go super far right ?? Your hyzer flip method looks amazing but seems it can only be done with an under stable at that angle correct?
Yes Hyzer Flip requires understable discs
What are you doing differently to get the shot to turn over and continue to finish left vs the shot finishes right like a normal forehand should?
Slightly less hyzer and slightly more power to get the left finish.
@@ScottStokelyDG Thanks! I would really love to attend a clinic or get some one on one forehand help from you sometime. I'm a tall build like you (6'8") just older and fatter! 🤣
I sometimes have a problem on the fh hyzerflip of throwing in straight up. Is that from serving the pizza?
Maybe but you are also likely not following through across like I show in the video. Pay attention to not follow through straight up.
why dont you do any practice fake throws like a warm up of the angle you just get on pad pick angle and rip it no warm up for throws??
Are you going to come up with a companion putter version for the Loots series? Sidebar question: Can someone who uses the 'Lots' be considered a Looter? If a flutist uses one: a 'Fluter Looter.' 'Lots' Series Putter Name Suggestion: 'Lutz Putz' ....and for the bad putters out there The 'Clutz Putz'
I might actually be able to throw a sidearm for distance instead of just shots I want to go right. I'm only throwing about 345' backhand and about 265' sidearm. I'd be happy as heck if I could crack that 300' mark sidearm.
I thought it was lotz I hadn't heard lutz before. I really need to pay more attention.
That's the proper way to say it
I'm going to call you on this.. so what about if you have a weak left knee and can't plant with the left foot
I am so hesitant to give advice that might involve medical care/injuries. The way I teach sidearm is very much like a casual walk so you may find it is not going to hurt you.
It's funny how my throws look so much like Scott's. Except his carry 300' further. And are straighter.
This is the only forehand I can throw and as a lefty who can't throw a football 30 yards any chop forehand is out of the question. I may have the weakest arm when throwing a ball in history so I need to rely on my wrist alot.
Just to keep it simple, throw a understable disc with hyzer. Boom. All you need to know.
The only time I use sidearm hyzer flips is when I’m behind trees and have to drop down to a knee
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I’m much more skilled backhand than I am sidearm. So I don’t throw sidearms unless I have to
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Ok,I'll go ahead and throw in some scratch for more advice. Be emailing you soon. #225256
How to side arm ....(exactly like skipping a rock on water )