@@veganpowerlab Thanks Cip; just watched it & it's nice to see you had a productive conversation with this open minded young lady. Incidentally, the Dutch housing & Canal area is really 很好 beautiful. The Mother Cow running after her baby gets me everytime. ...
I try different places to show a beautiful scenery, but to also maybe get different types of people. I know what you mean about the baby cow. Gets me too 😢
@@veganpowerlab Ye, very sad. My wife is Taiwanese. It's been a long long time trying to get her to make the change but think I'm pretty close. I know alot of Vegans won't date non- Vegans; I totally understand this. That said, if we remain isolated we kind of become this secular group of 'wierdos' ( in other people's minds at least),. So, therefore I try to persevere no matter how difficult it is in my personal life. Btw, ,maybe you can imagine that here in Taiwan there's not so many activists, but rather some welfare groups a bit like the RSPCA. So, I'm trying to get some activists together who might be willing to do a video link chat on some of the issues. With your permission I would then put the talk on YT & add Traditional Mandarin subtitles. What do you think? &, is there any way I can message via FB or Instagram or whatever? You can check me out by name with Ronnie or Max form England - ask about huntsab Jon - otherwise I could be anyone oddball lol..
Thank you for informing her about the suffering and abuse her food choices are causing. I hope she will watch Gary Yourofsky and "Dominion" , it is so easy to go vegan and separate oneself from the violence towards animals. If one is against abusing and killing animals you must be vegan . Great conversation !
Great work Cip! As an aside: Methinks 'tis time for a new bag my friend as the problems that one is causing you could become more troublesome over time 😎.
@@veganpowerlab I understand the reluctance to spend when you already have one that is otherwise useable, however investing in the right one could be significantly cheaper than any osteopathic treatment you might need down the line - I speak from experience sadly. On another, or alternative, note, last night showed that you could sometimes do with a second on the street. Have you asked if there are any local vegans who would be prepared to protect/operate the camera for free while you work? They could also look after your bag which would mean you might not need to get a new one 😎.
@@theantiveganchannel3596 self defense or defense of a food supply is different than needless, selfish slavery and murder. You already knew that, but keep boosting the algorithm.👍
@@RoidRage-yc7yg Then, how do you define this behaviour? Legally, you're right that killing certain kinds of animals is not classed as murder in some countries. That said, killing any animal used to carry the death penalty in India - please check out my friend's episode on"The history of Animal Rights" on Animal Liberation TV. Also, in most countries the killing of cats , dogs, and other pets is legal Murder. But, Murder is a much wider term for use to describe Morality & Ethics which are by default independent of Law. Need: There is absolutely no Scientific proof that you need to eat Animals. In fact, there is Scientific proof & acceptance of the fact that red Meat is a Type 2 Carcinogen & processed meat is a Type 1 Carcinogen. There is also strong Correlation evidence of the link between heart disease & meat consumption; particularly Atherosclerosis. All, vitamins , minerals & the 3 major food groups: carbs, proteins, & fats can be obtained via a plant based diet. Bioavailable B12 can be obtained via Duckweed, kinds of Sunflower, Farver beans, & some Funghi. Selfishness: Most Meat eaters will even agree that there is a level of selfishness in funding the very real abuse on farms Abuse: If you don't think Farrowing crates, rape wracks, baby Calves being removed from their Mothers & Cows being forcefully kept in perpetual pregnancy for Milk production is abusive then I can only conclude you have developed a cold & Psychopathic mindset to animals through years of conditioning. The same problem also occurs in human Genocide..
Many people have been convinced that it would be unhealthy to give up meat and that you would be given up your favourite foods. There are so many healthy vegan options and alternatives available. We need to shift the paradigm that veganism is unhealthy. There are so many different vegan options, healthy and unhealthy.
will not stop eating meat as I don't have a fermentation chamber for plants because i checked and i'm not a herbivore.. that is why it's also good she will not STOP eating meat because eating plants causes malnutrition... You can't even ask the expert Vegan Susan Levin , the person that wrote the position on veganism from the american dietetics because she DID IT WRONG and isn't around to comment anymore
Dude's like the Dr Fauci of veganism. If you're against science. 🙄😂 Haven't you heard about all the benefits of having to supplement B12. Consuming lots of anti-nutrients and foods with poor bioavailability that still results in animals dying? 😜
We can digest plants without having to ferment them. What are you even talking about? Are you implying we can’t digest carrots, tomatoes, soy, apples, cherries, bananas, rice, bread, lentils etc? As for b12, animals are supplemented b12. So, you’re getting a supplement regardless. In fact, most people buying b12 supplements are not vegan… And, I ask again, are you saying that we cannot survive and thrive by eating plants and plant based products? Cause, that’s anti scientific, yeah…
Vegan 8 months, but I hadnt watched Yourovski's video until yesterday. I assume you link her to the same video you show an excerpt from here, and which links from the video description. Just one thing. You told this lady that the speech wasnt violent and she wouldnt see blood. But about 18 minutes into Gary's speech he shows the students some video footage which includes quite a bit of animal violence and which ends with a close up of a cow being completely decapitated... Im not sure if you knew about that and are leading people towards a shock, or if youre unaware or have forgotten, but I dont think its a great idea to mislead people like this who will then look back and wonder if there was anything else you "lied" about.
I usually tell people that there is some blood, but not a lot. I guess, I must’ve forgot to say it in this conversation. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll try to be more aware in the future 🙏
That woman has all the compassion in the world for animals and tutor suffering. I'm optimistic for her. I want to see her succeed. I'm vegan for the animals and and will be one day vegan as well❤
I’m not against eating animals, we are omnivores, sure morals and whatever but we are naturally intended to eat animals… there are many nutrients that are extremely hard to get if you are not ingesting animal products
@@veganpowerlab St Luke’s hospital actually published an article titled “Research Shows Vegan Diet Leads to Nutritional Deficiencies, Health Problems; Plant-Forward Omnivorous Whole Foods Diet Is Healthier” It states “Compared to the standard American diet of highly processed, low-fiber, high-calorie, sugary foods, vegan diets have some health advantages. However, researchers found that avoiding all animal foods may lead to nutritional deficiencies in vitamin B12, omega-3, calcium, zinc, iron, magnesium, and high-quality protein” for me Omega 3 is the big one. I mean I’m not a doctor, and I don’t think you’re a doctor, but in this article Dr. James O’keef states “If you’re eating a strict vegan diet, it is very difficult to supplement enough of all of the nutrients and high-quality protein that you need” Animals hunt and eat other animals, its nature, it’s not cruel, some animals are omnivores too, it would be nice to eliminate the cruelty aspect, but how? That cost would be so much. But I mean just from a biological perspective we need to go out of our way and change who we are, and take supplements and eat massive amounts, just to avoid eating meat When biologically it seems more logical, to just eat the meat
Having pets is purely for pleasure… pets don’t give consent to be pets, confined for our own enjoyment YOURE NOT PRO ANIMAL IF YOU OWN PETS… hypocrites
@@veganpowerlab Every existing creature on the planet consumes another creature. Deer eat birds and rodents, birds eat fish etc... I don't intend to waste time on watching weak attempts of spreading 'Disney propaganda'. p.s. steaks are not optional, but necessary
Excellent!
Many thanks! 🙏 🤗💚
Can't wait for this one Cip but might have to watch the replay as it's already 3 09a.m in Taiwan.
I appreciate you watching it, either way 🤗💚
@@veganpowerlab Thanks Cip; just watched it & it's nice to see you had a productive conversation with this open minded young lady.
Incidentally, the Dutch housing & Canal area is really 很好 beautiful.
The Mother Cow running after her baby gets me everytime. ...
I try different places to show a beautiful scenery, but to also maybe get different types of people.
I know what you mean about the baby cow. Gets me too 😢
@@veganpowerlab Ye, very sad.
My wife is Taiwanese.
It's been a long long time trying to get her to make the change but think I'm pretty close. I know alot of Vegans won't date non- Vegans; I totally understand this. That said, if we remain isolated we kind of become this secular group of 'wierdos' ( in other people's minds at least),. So, therefore I try to persevere no matter how difficult it is in my personal life.
Btw, ,maybe you can imagine that here in Taiwan there's not so many activists, but rather some welfare groups a bit like the RSPCA.
So, I'm trying to get some activists together who might be willing to do a video link chat on some of the issues.
With your permission I would then put the talk on YT & add Traditional Mandarin subtitles.
What do you think?
&, is there any way I can message via FB or Instagram or whatever?
You can check me out by name with Ronnie or Max form England - ask about huntsab Jon - otherwise I could be anyone oddball lol..
@@veganpowerlab Yah, it's a great idea & can also trigger people's interest in your vids 😊
Thank you for informing her about the suffering and abuse her food choices are causing.
I hope she will watch Gary Yourofsky and "Dominion" , it is so easy to go vegan and separate oneself from the violence towards animals.
If one is against abusing and killing animals you must be vegan .
Great conversation !
Thank you so much, Jirad! I completely agree 🤗💚
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Not foist but not the woist!
That almost rhymed
That was a nice conversation 🙏😊
Great work Cip!
As an aside: Methinks 'tis time for a new bag my friend as the problems that one is causing you could become more troublesome over time 😎.
What do you mean? Which bag?
@@veganpowerlab On your back mate. If you watch back you are constantly readjusting your body to deal with it.
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Yeah! You are right! I should invest in a new backpack. Been hesitant, because they’re so damn expensive, but maybe it would be useful
@@veganpowerlab I understand the reluctance to spend when you already have one that is otherwise useable, however investing in the right one could be significantly cheaper than any osteopathic treatment you might need down the line - I speak from experience sadly.
On another, or alternative, note, last night showed that you could sometimes do with a second on the street. Have you asked if there are any local vegans who would be prepared to protect/operate the camera for free while you work? They could also look after your bag which would mean you might not need to get a new one 😎.
I always look forward to seeing your work Cip! Great conversation! 👍🌱💯💚
Yup, Yourofsky had me go cold turkey
I reckon Gary made many many go "cold turkey"!!!
I'll be there for sure 👋👋
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Nice work cip, another vegan on the horizon .
One can only hope 🤗💚
She seems open minded. Good conversation with her. May she align her actions with her spirit
Gteat job Cip!😊😊😊💚💚💚🐥🐥🐥
Thank you so much, Nataly 🤗💚
I really like your activism. I too am vegan now for two and a half years!
Thank you so much 🤗💚
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Great questions Cip.
Welcome to the vegan Gun Show. 👍👍✌️
Why do Crop farmers have AR I5s Why do they need them to pick plants? how does one pick plants with them?
@@theantiveganchannel3596 self defense or defense of a food supply is different than needless, selfish slavery and murder. You already knew that, but keep boosting the algorithm.👍
@@veman5409 Eating meat is not needless or selfish or slavery or murder. Try again.
@@RoidRage-yc7yg It is when we can make a choice that is more compassionate.
@@RoidRage-yc7yg Then, how do you define this behaviour?
Legally, you're right that killing certain kinds of animals is not classed as murder in some countries. That said, killing any animal used to carry the death penalty in India - please check out my friend's episode on"The history of Animal Rights" on Animal Liberation TV.
Also, in most countries the killing of cats , dogs, and other pets is legal Murder.
But, Murder is a much wider term for use to describe Morality & Ethics which are by default independent of Law.
Need: There is absolutely no Scientific proof that you need to eat Animals. In fact, there is Scientific proof & acceptance of the fact that red Meat is a Type 2 Carcinogen & processed meat is a Type 1 Carcinogen. There is also strong Correlation evidence of the link between heart disease & meat consumption; particularly Atherosclerosis. All, vitamins , minerals & the 3 major food groups: carbs, proteins, & fats can be obtained via a plant based diet. Bioavailable B12 can be obtained via Duckweed, kinds of Sunflower, Farver beans, & some Funghi.
Selfishness: Most Meat eaters will even agree that there is a level of selfishness in funding the very real abuse on farms
Abuse: If you don't think Farrowing crates, rape wracks, baby Calves being removed from their Mothers & Cows being forcefully kept in perpetual pregnancy for Milk production is abusive then I can only conclude you have developed a cold & Psychopathic mindset to animals through years of conditioning. The same problem also occurs in human Genocide..
Many people have been convinced that it would be unhealthy to give up meat and that you would be given up your favourite foods. There are so many healthy vegan options and alternatives available. We need to shift the paradigm that veganism is unhealthy. There are so many different vegan options, healthy and unhealthy.
what is healthy about eating grass seeds roots,leaves and fruits that are loaded with sugar?
Tell us
Thank you for standing up for animals ✊✊✊✊
Thank you for watching 🤗💚
Great work. Thank you. Be vegan everyone 💚💚💚💚💚💚
will not stop eating meat as I don't have a fermentation chamber for plants because i checked and i'm not a herbivore.. that is why
it's also good she will not STOP eating meat because eating plants causes malnutrition...
You can't even ask the expert Vegan Susan Levin , the person that wrote the position on veganism from the american dietetics because she DID IT WRONG and isn't around to comment anymore
Nope.. to all of it.. if you’re against science, keep it to yourself. Do you have empirical evidence for any of your statements?
@@veganpowerlabim pretty sure shes dead, but i dont have empirical evidence for it
Dude's like the Dr Fauci of veganism. If you're against science. 🙄😂
Haven't you heard about all the benefits of having to supplement B12. Consuming lots of anti-nutrients and foods with poor bioavailability that still results in animals dying? 😜
@@veganpowerlabwhat "science" humans have an acidic stomach that isn't a fermentation chamber for plants buddy
We can digest plants without having to ferment them. What are you even talking about? Are you implying we can’t digest carrots, tomatoes, soy, apples, cherries, bananas, rice, bread, lentils etc?
As for b12, animals are supplemented b12. So, you’re getting a supplement regardless. In fact, most people buying b12 supplements are not vegan…
And, I ask again, are you saying that we cannot survive and thrive by eating plants and plant based products? Cause, that’s anti scientific, yeah…
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Vegan 8 months, but I hadnt watched Yourovski's video until yesterday. I assume you link her to the same video you show an excerpt from here, and which links from the video description.
Just one thing. You told this lady that the speech wasnt violent and she wouldnt see blood. But about 18 minutes into Gary's speech he shows the students some video footage which includes quite a bit of animal violence and which ends with a close up of a cow being completely decapitated...
Im not sure if you knew about that and are leading people towards a shock, or if youre unaware or have forgotten, but I dont think its a great idea to mislead people like this who will then look back and wonder if there was anything else you "lied" about.
I usually tell people that there is some blood, but not a lot. I guess, I must’ve forgot to say it in this conversation. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll try to be more aware in the future 🙏
That woman has all the compassion in the world for animals and tutor suffering. I'm optimistic for her. I want to see her succeed. I'm vegan for the animals and and will be one day vegan as well❤
So you don't mind animals dying for your food as long as they're not on your plate?
I truly wonder whether this girl's English is good enough that she could watch Gary Yourofsky's speech in English without Dutch subtitles.
Haha.. either way, hopefully she’ll understand the practices. Is there a dutch video that’s better?
@@veganpowerlab not that I know, but I wish now that there was a website where you could watch his speech with subs in all languages
CZcams has translations for subtitles
I'm shocked that nowadays I can't live the way I want without people being so noisy.
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I’m not against eating animals, we are omnivores, sure morals and whatever but we are naturally intended to eat animals… there are many nutrients that are extremely hard to get if you are not ingesting animal products
Which nutrients are those?
@@veganpowerlab St Luke’s hospital actually published an article titled “Research Shows Vegan Diet Leads to Nutritional Deficiencies, Health Problems; Plant-Forward Omnivorous Whole Foods Diet Is Healthier”
It states “Compared to the standard American diet of highly processed, low-fiber, high-calorie, sugary foods, vegan diets have some health advantages. However, researchers found that avoiding all animal foods may lead to nutritional deficiencies in vitamin B12, omega-3, calcium, zinc, iron, magnesium, and high-quality protein” for me Omega 3 is the big one.
I mean I’m not a doctor, and I don’t think you’re a doctor, but in this article Dr. James O’keef states “If you’re eating a strict vegan diet, it is very difficult to supplement enough of all of the nutrients and high-quality protein that you need”
Animals hunt and eat other animals, its nature, it’s not cruel, some animals are omnivores too, it would be nice to eliminate the cruelty aspect, but how? That cost would be so much.
But I mean just from a biological perspective we need to go out of our way and change who we are, and take supplements and eat massive amounts, just to avoid eating meat
When biologically it seems more logical, to just eat the meat
Having pets is purely for pleasure… pets don’t give consent to be pets, confined for our own enjoyment
YOURE NOT PRO ANIMAL IF YOU OWN PETS… hypocrites
Ban Slaughter
And breeding!
Better include yourself
Will never happen
Ban animal slavery!🥺🥺🥺🐮🐷🐔💔💔💔
@@NathanBlackberry well said Nataly
I animals don't want to be eaten why are they made of food?
You are also made of food.. should you be eaten?
@@veganpowerlab 🤣 Touche
Animals in the wild also..........
What about them?
Why is nonsense in my recommended? Why would I stop eating what I should eat? It is the way of the world. Stop acting like children and grow up.
Watch the video and you’ll learn why… it’s not about you or me, but about the sentient individual being exploited for optional products
@@veganpowerlab Every existing creature on the planet consumes another creature. Deer eat birds and rodents, birds eat fish etc... I don't intend to waste time on watching weak attempts of spreading 'Disney propaganda'.
p.s. steaks are not optional, but necessary
Show me evidence that it’s necessary to eat the flesh of a sentient individual
Nice young girl - I'm guessing a future vegan!!!