Ian "Crimsix" Porter - Call of Duty Franchising, Players and Orgs | The Eavesdrop Podcast Ep. 11

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  • Ian "Crimsix" Porter-
    Twitter: / optic_crimsix
    Twitch: / crimsix
    CZcams: / crimsixian
    Instagram: ian.6?hl=en
    3:48 who are you day?
    4:23 Had Crim heard of H3CZ during Cod4
    5:31 Thoughts on Cod4 Remastered
    6:22 The myth of the tick
    7:37 Console vs PC
    9:06 Crimsix thoughts on RNG gameplay
    11:40 would the Optic Call of Duty team compete in Blackout
    12:46 thoughts on entertainers vs pro players in competition
    15:01 Call of duty promoting professional players on social media
    17:44 Equality vs equity in the Esports scene
    21:37 The Gentlemen’s agreement in Call of Duty
    23:35 Ian's thoughts on the Gentlemen’s Agreement
    25:02 Could players Break the gentleman's agreement during a tournament
    26:42 How the gentleman’s agreement changes the way the game plays
    28:25 Whitelisting the top players when a new game comes out
    31:25 how CWL could fix the current ruleset
    33:48 Game developers taking pro players advice when developing the game
    35:25 having a captains association amongst the call of duty pro teams
    37:15 What did Crimsix do as a kid
    38:35 Crimsix playing competitive soccer
    39:45 what was Crimsix first video game?
    41:00 What does Crimsix family think about him playing video games professionally
    42:02 Crimsix competitive halo days
    44:25 Crimsix playing competitive Battlefield to compete in a million dollar tournament that never happened
    47:02 what was Crimsix first team in Call of Duty
    49:00 Crimsix success early in call of duty
    52:00 Getting out metta'd in Call of Duty 4
    54:00 Crimsix being stuck in a contract
    57:45 Should organizations be able to have two teams
    59:20 could Hecz had done more to keep the dynasty team together? How did the team break up
    1:01:18 Taking advice from teammates
    1:04:01 Franchising in Call of Duty
    1:06:02 Vonderhaar racing
    1:07:23 How to make Franchising work competitively
    1:09:03 Fun fact about black ops 2 league play
    1:11:04 Factors that affect how pro players become pro
    1:12:21 how to get fans into competitive call of duty
    1:14:07 How advertising will affect Franchising success
    1:16:30 Organizations taking a percentage of prize money
    1:21:01 How taking a percentage of prize earnings affects players
    1:23:07 How to make an organization work financially
    1:25:50 Giving bonuses to players based on placings
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Komentáře • 680

  • @suminach
    @suminach Před 5 lety +751

    Hope we get to see Matt ( formal) just to hear him talk about his time with optic and his run with the dynasty, not just the break up but his whole cod story that’d be cool personally

    • @gianmarcotizzot8063
      @gianmarcotizzot8063 Před 5 lety +54

      Ain’t happening bud

    • @ethanroy9806
      @ethanroy9806 Před 5 lety +4

      didn't even have him on vision when it was announced. Just want anything from his pov

    • @jameshodson9999
      @jameshodson9999 Před 5 lety +30

      MrRoughGoose nah he’s gone dude. Guy was fucking pissed at optic and wants nothing to do with them anymore

    • @yjsit
      @yjsit Před 5 lety +1

      No thanks

    • @TheBirdManHQSubing
      @TheBirdManHQSubing Před 5 lety +5

      Formal is a little botch

  • @reesbeardshaw8051
    @reesbeardshaw8051 Před 5 lety +250

    Crimbot has been unplugged and set free

    • @Stubblur
      @Stubblur Před 5 lety +9

      they updated him... hes wireless now

  • @joeratcliffe2988
    @joeratcliffe2988 Před 5 lety +165

    Crimbot has knowledge, so vital for Optic!

  • @MoBryso
    @MoBryso Před 5 lety +17

    This was honestly my favorite Eavesdrop yet. I thought it was so interesting to here some bts of the cod scene more than we already know. Crim is such an awesome dude.

  • @Mossbergg
    @Mossbergg Před 5 lety +60

    i love how deep they go into this podcast, crims mentality is on another level to all other pros. i truly believe crim would be a pro in every esport he tried getting pro in basically

  • @JazzyAnt
    @JazzyAnt Před 5 lety +148

    Please get Karma on this podcast. He talks, but he’s pretty vague, I would love to see him actually go into detail with his answers. (Whatever the questions may be. idc)

  • @trev021889
    @trev021889 Před 5 lety +212

    Keep it up with these Hecz this is solid content..!!

  • @JMGAMERZ11
    @JMGAMERZ11 Před 5 lety +54

    Love the Bo2 talk, what a sneaky lad BigT was!

  • @Sh0ckTV
    @Sh0ckTV Před 5 lety +330

    What's up you West African Goblin Sharks?!?

  • @Delbzy
    @Delbzy Před 5 lety +91

    Hecz all rugged up and crim just wearing a shirt?
    Oh wait.. I just remembered robots have no feelings

  • @billjoe7036
    @billjoe7036 Před 5 lety +5

    “The rich get richer” is the same concept hecs was sort of arguing when talking about giving the top teams access to the game early. Giving the top teams early access would give them advantages over people who are up in coming and every year just keep creating this loop where aspiring players are just behind the curve.

  • @julianerlandson768
    @julianerlandson768 Před 5 lety +235

    You gotta get Shroud on your podcast!! Keep it up

    • @YaminAlom
      @YaminAlom Před 5 lety +8

      Julian Erlandson That is a must

    • @desimz267
      @desimz267 Před 5 lety +2

      Helllllll no!

    • @desimz267
      @desimz267 Před 5 lety +1

      v KEITH v I didn’t like but ok

    • @haisekia5500
      @haisekia5500 Před 5 lety

      We need shroud that would be lovely

    • @VoidBL
      @VoidBL Před 3 lety

      No OpTic fan knows what shroud is so no there isn't a need for it lmao

  • @LTStealthAIR
    @LTStealthAIR Před 5 lety

    This was super insightful on the background details of not only Crims history but the behind the scenes details between pro players and orgs and esports etc. Loved this.

  • @XxVULG3RxX
    @XxVULG3RxX Před 5 lety

    Been watching your vlogs for a LONG time and never have watched the podcasts. I can tell you I’ve messed up, this is awesome raw content that I can’t wait to watch more of. Keep it up HECZ!

  • @IDrag123
    @IDrag123 Před 5 lety +1

    Hecz doing it all, Podcasts, Running an Organization, Vlogging, Bringing Minecraft back with Syndicate, etc. So much respect!!

  • @Axonablex
    @Axonablex Před 5 lety

    Litetally the only podcast that keeps me tuning in every week! Keep it up hecz🔥

  • @Prodiggy23
    @Prodiggy23 Před 5 lety

    This might be my favorite work you've ever done, Hecz. Keep up the good work brother.

  • @daniel4815
    @daniel4815 Před 5 lety

    Loved that you guys got into the business side of esports and were actually willing to go into detail!

  • @Lordloss646
    @Lordloss646 Před 5 lety

    I love these Podcasts so much. You really get to know what players are thinking and feeling. Keep up the good Content Hector.

  • @DestinyYagami
    @DestinyYagami Před 5 lety

    Hecz keep these bangers coming !!! ive rewatched every Eavesdrop PD to date and its only getting better !!!

  • @Adrian-he5zs
    @Adrian-he5zs Před 5 lety +1

    Just great content man! Favorite podcast for sure

  • @123michaeljordan23
    @123michaeljordan23 Před 5 lety +158

    Have TJ & Dashy next week, as well as Clay as a guest on a 6050 episode.

    • @NexXttx
      @NexXttx Před 5 lety +1

      They weren't in that team House why would they be on the podcast if the podcast is litteraly about the old OpTic House

    • @Kuhhmolly
      @Kuhhmolly Před 5 lety

      Harris7123 why they weren’t part of the house

    • @jessepinkman2391
      @jessepinkman2391 Před 5 lety +2

      Kamahl Dailey tjhaly and dashy only joined optic this season so they wouldn’t be in the house and Clayster I believe was on another team but I’m not sure

    • @Ethan-pr1zh
      @Ethan-pr1zh Před 5 lety +24

      @@jessepinkman2391 You all have no clue how to fucking read. This guy is talking about 2 separate episodes. 1 episode with Dashy and Teej. And then another 6050 episode including Clay.

    • @Ethan-pr1zh
      @Ethan-pr1zh Před 5 lety +2

      @@Kuhhmolly You all have no clue how to fucking read. This guy is talking about 2 separate episodes. 1 episode with Dashy and Teej. And then another 6050 episode including Clay.

  • @mdama9988
    @mdama9988 Před 5 lety +59

    As soon as Hecz said "have you ever heard of the myth" shit had me dying

    • @hershtv
      @hershtv Před 5 lety +2

      Mdama hey dama 😂

  • @erikchavez5008
    @erikchavez5008 Před 5 lety +1

    I’ve Never been into any type of podcast until now I’ve been loving these

  • @MaxZy_J13
    @MaxZy_J13 Před 5 lety +1

    Crim knows so much about cod!! He gives a perspective I haven’t seen or heard before in pro play

  • @deva1535
    @deva1535 Před 5 lety

    This was by far my favorite episode. Thanks fellas :)

  • @iZimmy
    @iZimmy Před 5 lety

    The analogy that Hecz uses to talk about equality and equity is actually genius. Sometimes he doesn’t get credit for how smart he is as a businessman because how goofy he likes to be. This is quality content and they truly address some amazing points about what direction esports should go as a whole to completely enhance its viewership and franchising is definitely one of them if done right. Great content plus always fun to see someone from the cod team in the video or on the eavesdrop. Thumbs up from me.

  • @Einherjerify
    @Einherjerify Před 5 lety +6

    Amazing job HECZ, and great transparency Ian. Worth millon subscriber.

  • @destroythehuman3380
    @destroythehuman3380 Před 5 lety

    Them time stamps in the description are good 👌 these podcasts are really good quality

  • @iLLeag7e
    @iLLeag7e Před 5 lety

    This was a great fucking episode Hecz. I for one am SO FUCKING GLAD you built the studio and that you are doing such great things there. 2019 is already lit as fuck and it isn't even here yet. Stay up man & thnx for the outstanding content!

  • @GeTMiXeDuP770
    @GeTMiXeDuP770 Před 5 lety

    I love that you added time highlights in the description 👌🏻

  • @nhilist5774
    @nhilist5774 Před 5 lety

    I love you guys for putting these on soundcloud

  • @_Sparkz_
    @_Sparkz_ Před 5 lety +2

    This podcast series is the best podcast out there!

  • @SSantmyre94
    @SSantmyre94 Před 5 lety

    Crim is a perfect person for these podcasts. Solid responses, topics that need addressing, and good opinions.

  • @sNiPeR95PwnZ
    @sNiPeR95PwnZ Před 4 lety

    Great Podcast to even watch and not only listen to. Ian's emotions travel a long way

  • @tonyfinster1
    @tonyfinster1 Před 5 lety

    Absolutely love these podcasts man keep it up

  • @imcoty
    @imcoty Před 5 lety +1

    didnt really plan on sitting and watching all of this, but here i am a half hour later still listening.
    great work boys, glad to hear your opinions.

  • @callumburns9378
    @callumburns9378 Před 5 lety +49

    LOOL BIGT WAS THE GOAT WITH THE PLAN

  • @hiigherr4136
    @hiigherr4136 Před 5 lety

    Good stuff man. Loving the content!

  • @mason7223
    @mason7223 Před 5 lety

    These are so good , keep it up

  • @connorheath542
    @connorheath542 Před 5 lety

    Loved the cod y’all because this game has been getting me back into actually grinding a game unlike some of the other recent cods

  • @neubyog260
    @neubyog260 Před 5 lety

    Love these podcasts! Keep up the good work

  • @Calebr34
    @Calebr34 Před 5 lety +1

    Hecz, This is the content I've been waiting for for 5 years from optic. You're making big moves. Fucking thank you. Sincerely, 25yo Phenom.

  • @mymiddleknee671
    @mymiddleknee671 Před 5 lety

    These get better and better every week

  • @tysononeill
    @tysononeill Před 5 lety

    Great listen. Love these!

  • @johnpzaccari
    @johnpzaccari Před 5 lety

    Great inside info on the pro gaming business! love these podcasts

  • @stephenrobertson6832
    @stephenrobertson6832 Před 5 lety +1

    There needs to be part 2’s to all these podcasts. You just know there’s so much more crim wanted to talk about. Awesome!

  • @phantomkarma5532
    @phantomkarma5532 Před 5 lety

    Man that intro and outro is just amazing

  • @sporadicmusings5822
    @sporadicmusings5822 Před 5 lety

    This was absolutely brilliant.

  • @Ryan-From-The-Uk
    @Ryan-From-The-Uk Před 5 lety

    loving the podcasts hecz bro

  • @neverstop9731
    @neverstop9731 Před 5 lety

    Legit the only podcast I watch. Shits FIRE.

  • @Tundra0128
    @Tundra0128 Před 5 lety +6

    crim staring into the camera like its the office lmfao

  • @e1luk
    @e1luk Před 5 lety +2

    51:40 big T low key savage with the select fire lmao

  • @stan9737
    @stan9737 Před 5 lety

    I enjoyed the hell out of this! Love from PKA

  • @trueborn7323
    @trueborn7323 Před 5 lety

    Love these podcasts!

  • @anthonytorro7554
    @anthonytorro7554 Před 5 lety

    Favorite one so far

  • @ScooterCentral952
    @ScooterCentral952 Před 5 lety

    I Interviewed Crimsix for Gfinity in I think 2014. He was streaming at the time and I was so nervous. He was one of the nicest guys I've spoken to throughout my career and made me feel super welcome. Top lad.

  • @daveysweigard
    @daveysweigard Před 5 lety +1

    “At the end of the day they’re the devs, we’re just the players.” Damn that was actually really smart and humble I respect the shit out of him saying that. I feel like a lot of players, including us and not just pros, think we know everything and criticize the devs too much when we’re not taking all factors into account

  • @JoeCarterbaseball
    @JoeCarterbaseball Před 5 lety

    The whole organization's taking percentages of the prize pool is a question ive wanted answered for a long time. Thanks for evaluating crim an hector

  • @eliaszmroz7943
    @eliaszmroz7943 Před 5 lety

    BRING THE REST OF THE OPTIC COD TEAM AS WELL! I enjoy those podcast so much!

  • @samgardner4667
    @samgardner4667 Před 5 lety

    I actually dug the “business of eSports” discussion in this one. Nice insight

  • @LordDexter
    @LordDexter Před 5 lety

    Best one so far!!

  • @wegoodmoney
    @wegoodmoney Před 5 lety

    The amount of knowledge of the game and behind the scenes that were spoke about in this episode are worth more than money.

  • @MrJordanc14
    @MrJordanc14 Před 5 lety

    One of the best podcasts imo.

  • @parsaerfanian9054
    @parsaerfanian9054 Před 5 lety

    I'm the type of youtube viewer that streamers hate because I just watch videos and leave but you my friend have got a sub and notifacations turned on. This is one of the best series on youtube by far. Crim scump and the rest of the gang have got em for a while tho ;)

  • @FoxyGrandpa1
    @FoxyGrandpa1 Před 5 lety +3

    Final Boss is one of the greatest team names in eSports history.

  • @KingPhatCock
    @KingPhatCock Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing podcast.

  • @ThatManWolfie
    @ThatManWolfie Před 5 lety

    Loved this podcast

  • @isaacmainous7001
    @isaacmainous7001 Před 5 lety

    At the end of the day, it was another great podcast.

  • @sartyy2069
    @sartyy2069 Před 4 lety

    I’m super addicted to these podcasts

  • @mahdiibrahim6901
    @mahdiibrahim6901 Před 5 lety

    its lit first here eavesdrop is the best podcast straight up

  • @Tino364
    @Tino364 Před 5 lety

    This was so interesting to watch

  • @ImBexio
    @ImBexio Před 5 lety

    These podcasts are next level

  • @gonzoreal
    @gonzoreal Před 5 lety

    Love the podcast 🥳

  • @IntoItDesigns
    @IntoItDesigns Před 5 lety

    Becoming my favorite podcast

  • @langthegang8677
    @langthegang8677 Před 5 lety +4

    ACHES, Dashy, TJ, Merk, Maven and Formal if he agrees are all needed during Vegas next week.

  • @ItzViprr
    @ItzViprr Před 5 lety

    Great episode

  • @Dziukens
    @Dziukens Před 5 lety

    Great episode! :)

  • @pm1503
    @pm1503 Před 5 lety

    Love this podcast.

  • @abc-qv1pe
    @abc-qv1pe Před 5 lety

    Great podcast boys.

  • @KyraaaaaanHD
    @KyraaaaaanHD Před 5 lety +9

    24:37 - WHAT DID CRIM SAY?! "PRETTY MUCH WE'RE PLAYING THE UH" *CUT*

  • @wesleynaude5726
    @wesleynaude5726 Před 5 lety

    Loved it!!!

  • @aowisbeast
    @aowisbeast Před 5 lety +2

    Crim with the ya every second when listening to hecz was killing me

  • @bluwarrior30
    @bluwarrior30 Před 5 lety

    i feel you so hard on the baseball arm Crim, i played 1st base for 14 years straight, fall ball too. if i don't stretch for a good 5-8 minutes before throwing anything hard, it stings.

  • @Tableofsyndicates705
    @Tableofsyndicates705 Před 5 lety

    @69:08 Talking about how to make a competitive environment where you can scout good players for franchising, Ian drops the bomb I think needs to be heard. Give me FRAckINg Halo2 match ranking for PUBS. That shit was fun and that shit was fair for the most part. Sure you had groups that would power drop their account just to pub stomp now and then but for the most part, the pubs were able to show who was good and who wasn't. Especially when you got to the actual competitive groups. He talks about str8rippin' dude was probably the FIRST person ever to montage and get "famous" on youtube. I gained a lot of respect for Ian and Optic in general from this interview.

  • @imz286
    @imz286 Před 5 lety +34

    Crimthicc lookin real good these days no homo.

  • @dchambers23
    @dchambers23 Před 5 lety +12

    There needs to be a “Players Association” that the devs work hand in hand with to make competitive. Devs don’t know what comp players want or what breaks the game from a competitive standpoint. No one knows more than the players.

    • @uncores5122
      @uncores5122 Před 5 lety +3

      doophie The thing is they did ask pros but they brought out a bunch of morons who are too young to understand. Like kenny was out there and don’t get me wrong he’s a beast but i’d way rather crim be making comp rules.

    • @dchambers23
      @dchambers23 Před 5 lety

      Uncores * this was before the game released though. I mean have a dedicated group of reputable pros throughout the year making these decisions.

    • @ramp622
      @ramp622 Před 5 lety +1

      I agree with that, but youd be surprised how many pros have awful ideas. Like they are great at the game but their ideas are dogshit. Like in fortnite a lot of pros suggest such outlandish things that would ruin the game in my opinion. Even crimsix could suggest something that would benefit him personally but overall would be a bad move. Its a hard thing to do. My opinion, is bring in the team that made league play for bo2. Problem 100% solved.

  • @bilalghaffar1678
    @bilalghaffar1678 Před 5 lety +1

    1:29 felt like 10min great podcast

  • @RG_LoneWolfe
    @RG_LoneWolfe Před 5 lety +4

    This interview made me like crim even more. I didn't know he also tried to compete in BF3. Kinda sad that battlefield esports never took off. It's constantly on and off.

  • @jetkeesee682
    @jetkeesee682 Před 5 lety

    2 very smart and caring guys right here. Need more like them in this world

  • @Tropicool
    @Tropicool Před 5 lety +4

    CrimBOT! BREHEHEHEHEHE. Dude brought up Heaven and Earth from H3! What an OG!

  • @chadmartin9364
    @chadmartin9364 Před 5 lety

    We need this

  • @mshadster
    @mshadster Před 5 lety

    I'd love to have another podcast talking more about the background of what goes into owning/running an org, like salary, contracts, etc.

  • @ramp622
    @ramp622 Před 5 lety +2

    For me personally. Anyone that was on that complexity god squad will go down as legends in my book. Their run was insane.

  • @McKeanKyle
    @McKeanKyle Před 5 lety

    Crim is such a good guest on the podcast he talks to the point I wish he would do more in the fun stuff OpTic does.

  • @Lawn-Stewards
    @Lawn-Stewards Před 5 lety

    Personally I thought this was a top 3 podcast. Very informational and crim provided a lot of insight into the bubble of COD.

  • @ianor2304
    @ianor2304 Před rokem

    This is a good podcast. Crim’s a better guest than host and better in a 1-on-1 chat, he’s so calm here.

  • @jGasQ
    @jGasQ Před 5 lety

    Good move getting the podcast on Stitcher. Where ill be listening from when im not able to watch

  • @sens4lyfe671
    @sens4lyfe671 Před 5 lety

    TWO GOATS

  • @DareToShine
    @DareToShine Před 5 lety

    Ssbm always comin in clutch. Much love to crim!