HITCH | Tfue vs Faze, Nade vs NickMercs, OpTic vs Infinite | The Eavesdrop Podcast Ep. 30
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This week we sat down with Davis "Hitch" Edwards to discuss the lawsuit between Faze Clan and Turner "Tfue" Tenny as well as the past, present, and future of the OpTic Gaming brand.
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2:12 How did everything start?
3:35 Tfue vs Faze and Nickmercs with 100T, keeping serious things behind closed doors
8:30 How orgs influence players growth
10:45 Hecz and Hitch on the Tfue contract
13:08 Hitch on Banks
14:00 Hecz on who wrote/read the Tfue contract, what happens when a player blows up past an org
16:15 Why Hecz kept optic close knit, how outsiders understand Esports
21:50 Was Hecz surprised by Nickmercs video?
27:30 Hecz and Hitch on loyalty
30:00 How did the Optic problems start
30:30 Hitch on Hecz selling OpTic
33:30 Hecz on selling OpTic and looking for investors
34:00 OpTic vs Infinite
36:00 Hecz and Hitch on how moving to Frisco happened and what the original plan was
42:35 Hitch getting fired while in Chicago
50:00 Hecz on why he doesn't regret selling OpTic
52:00 Hitch and Hecz seeing the Infinite offices for the first time
57:00 Hecz on infinite over hiring
1:00:50 Hecz on why the offices couldn't work
1:03:00 Hecz on breaking culture
1:08:20 Hitch on slapping a logo on something and expecting it to grow
1:10:00 Hitch on the disrespect given to him at the offices
1:16:00 Hecz on why the offices didn't work
1:19:00 Hitch on resenting his job and his coworkers, why content didn't work
1:28:30 Hitch and Hecz on Aaron create getting fired
1:33:00 Hitch on his around the bar video
1:36:00 Hecz on infinite wanting to drop the call of duty team
1:41:00 Hecz on infinite trying to get rid of him
1:45:00 Dropping the Halo team
1:49:00 Hitch on the content team under infinite, how the disconnect between infinite and optic caused optic to crumble
1:56:00 Hecz on what's going to happen with infinite and optic and why happened with optic
2:01:00 Why OpTic was as big as it was
2:03:45 What now? - Hry
The last 20 minutes of this video is so heartbreaking man. Hecz, thank you. Growing up you have provided me with so much joy with this company. I’ll never forget it. #GreenWall forever
Austin Herzog Agreed
So did optic get bought out ?or are they still going to continue? I just dont have the time to watch or I would
Infernosaiyangaming nothing’s confirmed but you can just tell by the body language and the tone in their voices that it’s probably the end.
Should start new content org called 6050
@@iLLeag7e I will follow Hecz anywhere. Regardless if it's called Optic... I will watch and I will support.
#Heczwall
I'm just glad I was ever considered Hitch, #Greenwall
Marry me
Hector walks, we ALL walk. Point blank period.
Facts 100%
for real, grew up on optic. i still support them, but without hecz and the ogs, the org is nothing. optic is just a name.
💯
Hector isnt walking bro. Hes been doing it for a long time and its stressful. Im sure it was catching up to him and he need financial stability without half the work. Starting a new org would be starting from scratch. Im sure the energy and drive isnt the same as it was 10 years ago. Its called life.
TheAlmightyDante Lmfaoo funny looking back at this now
"Not even Tfue would sign that shit" I'm dead lol.
Future of Optic 34:14 upvote so other people can see.
Subscribe if you want to help a #Greenwall boy out.
its in the description
H3CZ is OpTic!!! He walks we ALL walk!!! #greenwall #H3zcwall
FACTS the GREENWALL stands together
@@baronvontourettes hes the reason OpTic is what it is and has been what it was moron, now fuck off back to your sad exsistance 👍
@@baronvontourettes You're obviously a COMPLETE MORON! The reason H3CZ sold Optic to the investors was because EVERY other major org was being bought by investors for massive sums of money. Those investors were looking to create super teams and would pay WAY more money than H3CZ could to steal his players and content creators from OpTic. By not selling he felt he was holding his team back from greater opportunities. It was supposed to be positive for both H3CZ AND OpTic Gaming to sell the company to provide more money, resources, and opportunities for everyone in OpTic. It just didn't turn out that way because Infinite.
@@Mott2 you just know this dipshit didn't even watch the podcast IT is just here to troll as IT has nothing better to do with IT'S life the fucking cretin.
BIG FACTS!!
My wife: I just wanna go to sleep
Me (under my breath in a hushed whisper): I got a date with hector and hitch anyways
Hitch got done dirty by J and Infinite, wow. The last year made me appreciate how much Hitch truly does for OpTic as a whole, he was the only one who could appear on a podcast to talk about this stuff mad respect to him and Hector. Regardless of what happens in the future the #GreenWall lives on.
Never clicked on something so fast in my life like Jesus Christ
Also the fans should fight as well to get hecz’s part back jay is now out the fans need to step in as well enough with this solo bull shit we need to stand together enough is a fucking enough
Same here
Facts
Can tell Hitch wears optic on his heart! genuinely one of the best people around Hecz
i feel like OpTic is a family, like an actual family. And that's why i love this team. #GreenWall forever
solitaryJT couldn’t be more true bro 👌🏻
Hector knows this and this is why he will keep him around (if Davis wants to of course)
Big S Davis always said The only way OpTic will be removed from his name is if hecz tells him too 😊
He aint shit
2:05:16 , This part really hurt to listen to and it was beautifully done by Hecz. OpTic is nothing without the people in it.
im a 26 year old long time greenwaller , i cried several times during this interview... last week of may 2019 everybody remember this shit when we back ontop #trusttheprocess #fuckinfinite
Man the ending of this brought me to legit tears. Thank you Hector and all for the past 10 years at least I’ve been along for this ride. I’ll keep going #GREENWALL never dies
ya that was rough
Never been more hyped to listen to an Eavesdrop
Ghost Green might have been hyped but after that it’s crushing to hear this stuff, literally my childhood...
This past month has been absolutely insane
brick by brick. we are the Greenwall. We are all bricks and hold this together. Hecz we got you in anything that you do. Above all. Thank you.
👍
Not the green wall anymore lol
Baba GaDoush The wall is still here. We don’t need the label.
KSPAT 2 💯
Watching all the ads all the way through in the hope Hecz gets enough ad renvue to help save optic
Gotta grab some snacks for this one
Swagg 🤝
Jay needs to take “OpTic” out of his name
Who is jay ?
Exactly
kawss fr
Jay IS Optic
Anyone know around what timestamp they talk about Jay?
"I want to give the fans a story that they signed up for" - Hitch (1:21:52)
We all love you Hitch, thank you for keeping the fans interest at heart always, you deserve better from this unfortunate situation.
Thanks guys. This one really hit home... Feel for you both and wish you the best on your next journey!
So jay is the biggest snake in optic
check his twitter, it's an AD after AD after AD, he really showed the kind of person he is
Landen Delormier in the world
Wow J snaked everybody.
Will Mundy facts man. That’s truly unfortunate to hear
what part was that
Who is j?
is he talking about old men of optic, optic j?
Optic J. The red head you’d see in the old visions hitch made.
Together We May Stand
Together We May Fall
Together, We Will Always Be, The GreenWall
Hecz… If Optic goes away you and Hitch really need to team up as content creators and keep helping eachother build and get that mill!
This was the greatest Podcast I have ever listened to.
Abdul Ahmed Facts
2 hours, fasten your seatbelts everyone lol. Should be a good listen.
Been part of #Greenwall before it was built back in 2009, and to see that in a decade HECZ has been loyal to not only the players but us fans as well is heartwarming.
Wish we could just go back to the HDPVR days was so much simpler.
RIP Optic “what is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger”
Bro I love Optic and I love the pro teams they have and also the content creators blah blah blah but make no bones about it peeps without big HECZ none of this ever happens. That Mexican 30 year old phenom is owed a massive thanks by the whole green wall and 100T because without hecz there ain’t a nade. That is the truth! ❤️
steve drake well said ♥️
I thought he was 19 wtf
I'm struggling to give this comment a like. Though it seems well. The race part makes no sense. Maybe I haven't listened to enough of the stream first and something comes up. But what does him being Mexican matter exactly?
To me the word Mexican could've easily been left out and the comment means so much more. Rep greenwall. And even 100T no doubt. Not trying to diss anyone by any means
@@SlapDashR it's just something you understand if you've been around long enough
Vibes are intense😬 Let's show infinite and Immortal how much OpTic Gaming means to us! #Greenwall #OpticGamingMatters
Nah I want better content. Optic needs to go.
@@addingletters465 OpTic produces the best content
our “content creators” are definitely shit except for a few people. We have a lot of lazy people who are basically leeching off optic just because they’ve been there since the beginning. If they were on another org they would’ve been dropped without hesitation.
@@hencewurth That's true
@@hencewurth have you listened to this podcast? How in the hell do you honestly expect somebody to make quality content with what was going on. Mind you this is only 2 stories.
This episode was crazy. Thank god everything worked out in the end🙏🏽
Hey HECZ,
I just want you to know that what you did had a huge impact on me, and I'm sure a lot of others as well. To hear this unfold the way it did honestly brings tears to my eyes. I followed you for some time now and I have always looked forward to your videos, your spirit, and your love for the e-sports community. That logo might just be a logo but, to me, that logo is a symbol of people united for the same cause. That logo gave me and so many memories. I feel the love from this and I wasn't even a part of this journey or the stories that exist but, even though I wasn't a part of this, I want you to know that I love you and this brand that you created. If it wasn't for this vision so many people wouldn't be where they are. I honestly would pay you to be able to put OpTic in my tags. I can't speak for everyone here, and I really wish I could but, we love you and the people that made that logo what it is. Thank you HECZ!
Only 25 minutes in and I already know this is better than the GOT final!
I always wondered what happened to jay and why I never heard about him anymore
J. Flores Fuck J
sTn AnoMaLy you’re not wrong. Let the power and money get to him
What part of the video did they talk about Jay?
J is such a dumbass. Fuck him.
He works for Google. Hes been around since 05/06. Jeez he kinda did do them dirty but hes been an OG to the team so
Been in college for the last few years so I haven’t stayed in touch so much with all this and am kind of catching up. Been a fan for about a decade and can’t believe this all happened. Optic was a huge part of my life. Supported it for as long as I can remember and this is tough to watch. But, I understand business and how money and profit can cloud peoples’ judgment. Only those who truly love, support, and know what optic is should be the ones running it. I miss the optic trivia videos, vision, smooth comp. Straight gold mine that no one else could do. The people of optic and the personalities are untouched. You can tell just by one video that hitch produced how genuine the community really is compared to the current content. The old optic house, the scuf house, best times. All the new content is flopping compared to what we used to have. Anyway, just wanted to catch up and let the real optic fans (and Davis, Hector and everyone else) know they’ve got another supporter here. On to bigger and better (which they’ve already started but still). Love y’all, thank you for giving me such good laughs and memories over the years. Never forget. Here til the end 🙌
Been watching Hecz's content only for about 6 months, and loved every video and podcast and everything he has done... And even I felt this... Maaan... Much Love Hecz! You're a LEGEND!
So j was a snake basically
tahseem din when did they talk about J
@@sabi2752 the hole thing is about j being a snake and not tell hecz about the decision they were making
@@sabi2752 did you not listen to the same eavesdrop as everyone else?
@@gustavoespinosa7970 hector mentions several times. When they wanted to drop the cod team. When they wanted to change the jerseys and hitch talks about him when they are dealing with the whole content side of optic when aaron got fired.
Kxnshi you’re dumb
J did u dirty hecz . U built optic to what it is , While J left it , and as soon as he had the opportunity to take it back from u he did
Yah that bald bitch
Fuck him honestly I’d be fine if all the videos on everyone’s channels including the optic channel with him in it were taken down and never uploaded again. And that sucks because he’s in the one of the cod team winning champs.
To Hecz and OpTic.
Been a loyal fan of OpTic since the start of Mw2 and i love the team, the org and what we are representing. We are a family, growing up with this org and Papa Hecz being in charge was some of the best years with content and videos with personality's we grew to love and appreciate. Not only did he bring us together with the players, but also behind the scenes stuff like events, the COD space and much more. We got to feel the emotions of the players and experience how they are as people and what they do for a living. He brought us in so we could experience what they do because some of us don't have the luxury of being a part of OpTic or becoming pro's. He brought us behind closed doors and made us a part of the ride like we were a part of OpTic in name. Im not a good content creator, i wish i was and i wish i was a part of OpTic. I might not be a part of OpTic in name like the Personalities we love like BigT, Scump, Hitch, Mike, Boze etc...but im sure as hell a part of OpTic in my hearth when i cheer for the teams, when i scream when we win, when i cry when we lose. To hear Hecz and Hitch talk about all the problems they had with Infinite i wish they would have been more vocal about it. I too was one of the fans frustrated about the Halo team being dropped, decisions happening and players being dropped left and right. I knew Corp was the major part, but i never heard any complaints behind the closed door, because we the fans got left out. I know we as fans might not have ''the right'' to know what is going on behind closed door, but being along side this Org for as long as i did and then experiencing the Blackout we did with Content, the creators not being happy and Hecz remaining silent. It felt like no one was fighting for them or us....but hearing that you guys did your best i wanna say thank you. The vision you guys had going into this ''Project'' would have been amazing and i can only imagine where we would have been. I hope OpTic survives and we can find a new start, a better start and start heading towards better times with what OpTic is all about, Family, Content and creating something we fans can love and stand behind like we always have. For as long as OpTic's heart is still beating, im still here
50:05 Yo Hitch. You, mike, boze, and nick got to give yourselves more credit than what you give yourselves. I know what you mean on how "we aren't the headliners of OpTic", but I believe a lot of people (not the majority) would love to see more you guys doing videos together or even solo. You each have your own following that's really tight with each and every one of you; and when you are all together the following is way bigger and the vibes are great between all of you. Much love and give yourselves more credit believe me you guys deserve it (even though some people say to you "oh those guys shouldn't be in OpTic, they don't do anything." They don't know that you all vibe with one another and sometimes nothing can beat or top that.)
They were without a doubt the best people when it came to vlog content, etc. Actual pro players have never been vlog types
Imagine thinking it was a good idea to drop the COD team lmao ok
Fucking idiots dont know that a trees Roots hold up the tree
They on crack
Been waiting for this for over a week!!
2 hours wasn't enough could of watched for much longer! thanks Hecz
Whatever happens Hecz i will be behind you and the boys 100%!! Optic is a state of mind....on to bigger and better brother! Much love!
Can I just say how much I love Proofy. I'm glad you guys mentioned him. He deserves lots of props. He is such a happy guy and it rubs off on you even through a screen. I just love good people. They're so rare. Love you guys too!
FACTS!!!!
So glad Hitch is on. I knew it would be a dual perspective like a regular convo
Since cod 4 ive been watching optic. Back when it was a "clan". 11 years with these guys, and it's almost crazy how bad I feel that its on the downfall because of someone that built it. I'll never forget any of the amazing moments, the heartbreak, the championships, the content, the visions, the houses, and the players. Thank you hector, Davis, and everyone of the squad and the greenwall for the years of content that you provided us for nothing. The days of lost sleep, the hours of constant grinding, the whole dynamic of the optic FAMILY. This org is more than a bunch of talking heads behind closed doors. Its a family. Thank you for everything Optic. We'll see you fudgin' later.
I’m going to sign in to all my accounts just to leave a like. We love optic. And we love you too. Thank you for everything you have given us!
Water in the eyes once Hecz pulled out the optic logo with the people that made optic optic. #Greenwall
22:25 100T vs NickMercs
Hecz's Optic was the superior org. Change my mind.
You can't.
Can't change a fact.
Been a faze fan since 2011 and that's still facts Faze didn't become the better org until optics fall
nadeshots optic*
RC Codes nadeshots optic is hecz optic
Best podcast by far so glad hecz decided to do this!! While I'm at work I always listen in and makes the day so much better!
This is the best Eavesdrop podcast you guys have done. Thank you
This video makes everything so much clearer. The fact that nobody took shots at H3cz when they left was a sign this was going on. Jay is an A$$ IMO
I’m speechless. So much to take in. Thank you for lifting the lid on a lot of stuff that you’ve been sitting on for so long
Wow. This is what we needed. Thanks to both for sharing.
Let’s be clear, the whole situation of Hecz saying “if you drop the COD team I’m leaving... and everyone else will leave”
........ if Optic gets dissolved..... the literal same thing will happen. Sell to Hecz, or lose. Bottom line like it or not. #GreenWall
Things are different this time... Immortals do not really care about the fan following i feel like.. they just want their league spot . Infinite on the other hand are just dissolving i think and just want to sell... That is how i see the situation for the most part.
Nikos Mapas Yea good point. They don’t really care about former fans. One thing I foresee happening is Immortals LoL team being absolutely torched by the green wall for quite some time.
@@Guavvaisgood999 If that does happen, I hope Nade tells his LOL players to demolish Immortals in every match they play against them. Play dirty even, if possible
The 5th King nade’s LoL team was 10th place last split
@@ImThe5thKing that wouldn't really be fair to the LOL team. You're going to hurt the current Optic LOL players more than Immortals by having everyone flame and destroy them if the buy out happens
Easily one of the greatest podcast episodes I've heard. Honest, genuine, and passionate. I was so unaware of the issues that pertained to their situations. Hecz and Optic did what was true to themselves and true to their brand. Love it, more of an Optic fan than ever before now.
This was awesome, glad you take it off your chest, and for letting us know what is happenning... Ty
Everyone wanted and needed this conversation to go down!
I refuse to see the team I grew up watching die infront of me. If the Mets or Yankees weee closing the fans would do whatever it takes.
Hecz if you see this would it be possible for us the fans to help you with the funding?
Go fund me or buying a new merch or anything.
We are the Green Walll
I don’t know if hecz saw this but I hope he finds a way for the fans to support the cause
Christopher DeGroat please take my money Hecz🙏
Doesn't seem like money is the issue. He has a bid for the company but they wont sell to him for whatever reason ;-;
They’re being racist towards hecz
Funding maybe works for some thousand dollars. But we‘re talking about hundred millions here. So it probably wouldn’t help much. Maybe worth the try tho
The one dislike is a ceo for immortals.
Its probably OpTic J
Fuck J he aint deserving to have OpTic in his name
Ian Chiu who is Jay?
Immortals will probably just take the LoL spot and say hey yall good.
@@GamingUproar we can only hope
I swear, I’ve never met HECZ or Hitch but I would give anything to have these guys in my corner in any of my times of need.
Deep man! Keep at it boys! Hitch is great one of the best episodes for sure makes me feel more ingrained in the green wall
All 2 hours of this podcast are amazing! I havent finished it i just know it
1:04:00 I literally paused and had to take a breather.. WOW
I feel you, i had to come str8 to the comments after that one .. definitely aught me off guard
TheAvenger732 Same bro Jesus
Lol i did the same like what facepalm
I was wondering what this comment was about til I got to that point.. wtf
I dont say this a lot but I just lost full
Honestly I almost cried during this it got real deep and it reminded me of good and bad things but was also so interesting,I love both of you, you guys are amazing, Hitch needs to be back on one of the podcasts, this was a good one good luck
Hecz this is some real quality content, I really loved hearing all of what was said. Man I feel old watching optic for so long, kinda part of my life, it made me want to be better at cod seeing predator and dtreats and hutch. Y'all will forever be apart of my life and in my memories. I'm with you with whatever you do my man
Thank you for everything you've given us, the fans. #greenwall
u got me at "Tfue would not even sign this" lmao
2:06:45 Hitch face hits me in the feels. Greenwall till I die 💚
I wish I could convey to you HECZ through this CZcams comment how much of an impact you and your vision has had on me in my life. You have taught me so many morals and life lessons that I take with me through my young adult life. I am so sorry things didn't turn out they way you would of liked but for sure you and everyone grew stronger for the better.
As for you hitch, I remember the first day it was announced you were joining optic and had no idea who you were and then I remember watching your first edit on vision and how masterful it was. So proud to see how far you have come, you bleed green now and I see how much optic means to you its beautiful.
Love you guys
I felt this in a serious way. Been following OG for years and this video hits me right in the feels. The man, the myth, the legend that is Hecz, and the amazing Hitch who provided the story for us in the Greenwall discussing what could soon be a thing of the past... All I can say is that the Greenwall is behind you all and will never stop supporting you! Much love. Let's go Optic!
Damn I was hoping at some point Hecz would announce he retained OpTic
Richard Engroff I fell off did he sell it at one point or something?
D Tx he sold majority ownership to infinite like last year
Wavy Trino Not to sure
damn J really did OpTic dirty... especially Hecz wow. It be your own bruh
Man I was shocked, speechless and emotional listening to the behind the scenes stuff between OpTic and Infinite. I been following EVERYTHING OpTic since Ghosts and all I can say is the #Greenwall will always be behind those that started it. ALWAYS! Hecz, after this chapter in OpTic’s story ends, your true boys and all of US will walk whatever path you choose. Believeee that!!
I go where you go Hecz, you’ve created so many memories for us all to enjoy. Greenwall forever man💚
when you got up to grab the figurines and picture, the emotions hit
That hit home.
I teared up not gonna lie
Hope everything works out for you Hecz, imo for whatever it means your a great guy
So much respect for how you conduct yourself and your business both Hecz and Hitch. Been a long time fan of Optic and hope the very best from here on out. Hecz for President 2020
Hecz you and OpTic have done so much for me personally. Allowed me to get into competitive Call of Duty and get better overall at it. Hecz you personally when you said everyone should upload content to CZcams has given me the spark to start my own channel. Thank you and all of the OGs for everything.
Hecz, you’re the man! Straight hustler and you KNOW what the people wanna see and hear! Keep bringing the awesome content & can’t wait for 1 mil!
Man sad to hear about J.. Loyalty is a dying virtue
I was skipping around. What happened to J?
@@Himthaniel He worked with the Infinite guys and kinda gave up the Optic culture for the "new" Optic that Infinite wanted without ever talking to Hecz about it.
Great episode from both of you. I respected the brutal honesty in the video. Loyalty is a very rare trait.
Thank you hecz for the memories you have blessed us to grow up with. All through high school I got to experience an online culture and family that no one and I mean no one and no other generation will experience. Thank you hecz, thank you for building OpTic to what it is and introducing us to these amazing creators/players/personalities. We love you. We love you all. We are the Greenwall. 💚
We’re with YOU no matter what, I got goosebumps watching this at the end. The Green Wall will never fall 🙌🏼
Am I the only one making a new doordash account just to support Hecz and use his code
Damn that was a heavy podcast. Hope things wil go right man.
Great podcast, so open about whats been going on from your views. Top stuff, lets hope it goes well from here
So good to finally hear the truth/an explanation of everything that went down. An absolutely quality listen.
Always knew J is a weasel.
He looks like a weasel physically and literally
Always
Get it trending #FuckJay
What did j do?
What he do?
I’ll always love the Greenwall and this team!! Love you guys!
Damn looking back at this video 2 years later and seeing all that has happened is crazy.
Hecz and hitch I love yall and all of optic best of luck with all of this. I hope it all goes well #GREENWALL
Get mixwell in the podcast!!!
Can't imagine eSports/gaming without OpTic
im glad to be apart of the greenwall... we believe in you hecz were all rooting for you
Just finished it, I don't have any idea what's going to happen but Thank you hecz for making my childhood. Greenwall will stand w you wherever you go and wherever everyone stands up.
This the best podcast of 2019
The amount of times i got the chills while watching this... This is part of my childhood growing up loving video games and the Dynasty OG built in Cod i love the Green wall
Another beautiful great podcast love it hecz been optic since day one