Knife or Sword?

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  • čas přidán 9. 02. 2024
  • This is a surprisingly frequently asked question: How do you distinguish a long knife or dagger from a short sword (or saber, machete, etc)?
    Are there objective ways of drawing the line, like a specific blade length and/or a type of hilt / handle? Let's discuss it!
    The swords and dagger in this video:
    The Legionnaire (fantasy gladius) by Zombie Tools
    zombietools.net/collections/b...
    Shortsword VB Feder, Oakshott Type 14, I.33 from Purpleheart Armory (affiliate link)
    www.woodenswords.com/?Click=1799
    Adorian (messer) by Landsknecht Emporium (affiliate links)
    www.kultofathena.com/product/...
    www.kultofathena.com/product/...
    Pappenheimer rapier and custom parrying dagger ("main gauche") by Darkwood Armory
    rapiers.darkwoodarmory.com/pr...
    14th century medieval knight's rondel dagger by Tod Cutler (affiliate link)
    www.kultofathena.com/product/...
    Ewart Park bronze sword by Neil Burridge
    www.bronze-age-craft.com/swor...
    1860 light cavalry saber by LK Chen (affiliate link)
    www.kultofathena.com/product/...
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Komentáře • 860

  • @raydrexler5868
    @raydrexler5868 Před 3 měsíci +523

    A knife becomes a sword when you hand it to a hobbit

    • @knightjack
      @knightjack Před 3 měsíci +11

      👆

    • @kyle18934
      @kyle18934 Před 3 měsíci +17

      my hunting knife handle is a little to big for my hand, perfect or a little small for my dad, and massive for my mom.
      it's to bad we didn't see the Hobbits holding full sized swords in the movie. that would have been fun to see

    • @tomothybahamothy
      @tomothybahamothy Před 3 měsíci +3

      You really had that one locked and loaded

    • @guillaume4519
      @guillaume4519 Před 3 měsíci +3

      And he uses it like a sword

    • @ZeroXSEED
      @ZeroXSEED Před 3 měsíci +1

      Based

  • @umbranoctis4348
    @umbranoctis4348 Před 3 měsíci +97

    Can't believe he really chopped of his thumb for a little joke, then waited a few month for it to grow back to make the rest of the video. That's what I call determination.

    • @garethlamb6923
      @garethlamb6923 Před 3 měsíci +5

      He actually filmed the whole video first, then filmed the intro and cut off the thumb afterwards.
      The magic of editing.

    • @umbranoctis4348
      @umbranoctis4348 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@garethlamb6923 So what you're saying is that the thumb ended on... the cutting room floor? ;)

    • @manuelschurig2266
      @manuelschurig2266 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@garethlamb6923 ah yes, editing software... such cutting edge technology

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 Před 3 měsíci +369

    This is strangely one of those topics where we work better with ambiguity rather than clear definitions. We have a general but more or less accurate sense of when a weapon is a sword or a dagger, but the minute you lay down parameters then it breaks apart.

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Před 3 měsíci +22

      Strange that when it's about a tiny pocket knife or a large camp chopper, we comfortably call both of them "knife", despite the size and way of usage difference.

    • @inventiveowl395
      @inventiveowl395 Před 3 měsíci +25

      @@mrkiky "That's not a knoife. T h a t ' s a knoife."

    • @taylorfusher2997
      @taylorfusher2997 Před 3 měsíci +4

      To Skallagrim:
      Is the castles and fortresses in Elder Scrolls online historically accurate against battering rams?

    • @herbderbler1585
      @herbderbler1585 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I second this notion concerning firearms. Any time they start trying to lay down hard rules, it just ends up more ridiculous and confusing, not to mention causing legal trouble for everyone EXCEPT criminals who don't care how anyone defines anything.

    • @seidmadr2024
      @seidmadr2024 Před 3 měsíci +3

      "I know it when I see it."

  • @OlyFisher
    @OlyFisher Před 3 měsíci +54

    actually, the distinction between a dagger and a short sword is that a dagger deals 1d4 base damage, while a short sword deals 1d6 base damage
    (great vid btw, been binging your back catalogue and the increase in quality is amazing!)

    • @xPumaFangx
      @xPumaFangx Před 3 měsíci +2

      You cannot throw a short sword. And depending on what version you are playing there are more differences as well.

  • @davidcarter4877
    @davidcarter4877 Před 3 měsíci +222

    Gotta say, that transition at the beginning was smooth AF! Honestly the editing in the whole video is really on point!

    • @Skallagrim
      @Skallagrim  Před 3 měsíci +60

      Thanks!

    • @alexanderwhite298
      @alexanderwhite298 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Skallagrimyour face is long when your hair is down. A good way to classify an implement is to work as, what is its intended function. For example a sword is a weapon and not a tool to where a dagger is a tool that can be used as a weapon.

    • @kyle18934
      @kyle18934 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@alexanderwhite298 I really like that, but I have to add as long as it's a standard dagger and not specialized.
      a rondel dagger would be pretty bad to use as a knife. maybe it could be used for punching holes in leather or wood.

    • @alexanderwhite298
      @alexanderwhite298 Před 3 měsíci

      @@kyle18934 maybe it's a difference in the words that are used, because knife and dagger are used interchangeable and have the same definition. We could as a community petition to Webster to have more of a separation between what is a dagger and what is a knife, as well as the difference between a dagger and a sword.

    • @kyle18934
      @kyle18934 Před 3 měsíci

      @alexanderwhite298 I havnt thought about that. but I could see it. when I think of a dagger I think double edged, when a knife is single bladded. but there is a whole lot of grey area. like is a Kbar a knife or a dagger?
      thanks for the responce

  • @ihtfp01
    @ihtfp01 Před 3 měsíci +194

    Everybody wants an extra inch or two,
    but beyond a certain point,
    (different, depending on application)
    extra size is...
    counterproductive.

    • @raydrexler5868
      @raydrexler5868 Před 3 měsíci

      Heard

    • @P3x310
      @P3x310 Před 3 měsíci +15

      It's all fun and games until you trip over it...

    • @Ranstone
      @Ranstone Před 3 měsíci +8

      Here before someone makes a Type XVIIIc joke.

    • @Fuckyoubloodymoron
      @Fuckyoubloodymoron Před 3 měsíci

      I can't help myself, I Just love a Zweihänder. 😅

    • @PrinceAlhorian
      @PrinceAlhorian Před 3 měsíci +8

      It's not how long, but where you can poke it that matters

  • @SuperLemonfish
    @SuperLemonfish Před 3 měsíci +79

    id say length isn't the differentiator. its all about its functionality and design, intended/actual useage etc! im glad you mentioned it yourself! i think some knifes are also swords.

    • @williammeek4078
      @williammeek4078 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yes, i always defined them by designed use case.

    • @SingularityOrbit
      @SingularityOrbit Před 3 měsíci +7

      It really does sort of come down to whether the customer who commissioned the blade asked for a knife or a sword, and how they explained what they meant by that, doesn't it?
      Across over 5,000 years of history of swords as a concept, we've seen everything from a gladius to an estoc identified as a sword. It's such an abstract term, like defining a Lamborghini Countach and a Ford F-150 both as "automobiles." Or, heck, callling both a Nissan Leaf and a railroad dining car "cars." Nevermind what's a sword vs a dagger because there's always a more correct term one could use -- rondel dagger, main gauche, messer, smallsword, etc.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser Před 3 měsíci

      @@SingularityOrbit fundamental defintion seems to be 'pointy bit of metal, held by one end in the normal course of events, particularly optimised for combat against other humans, with no significant other use' all else seems variable.

    • @SingularityOrbit
      @SingularityOrbit Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@laurencefraser Sorry, I'm confused -- is that a definition for a stiletto dagger?
      (Excuse the not-quite-serious tone. It's just that actually trying to come up with a definition in cases like these is going to bring out the Diogenes in me every time.)
      Any sufficiently well-built sword or knife will have other use cases, ranging from trimming branches for firewood to poking holes in materials as part of constructing something. I really think it's not a matter of whether it has other uses. I think a sword is something intended to be used in a sword fighting system, regardless of which system or whether it has other possible uses. So the only functional definition is, "A blade designed to be used as the primary tool in a system of fencing." I'm not sure what else can be said -- but I'm sure there are plenty more Diogenes* out there to break my definition in short order.
      *Anybody know the plural form of Diogenes? Not that more than one at a time is a good idea for civil order.

    • @xMingan
      @xMingan Před 3 měsíci +1

      Clearly, Diogenusses.@@SingularityOrbit

  • @jonsku6662
    @jonsku6662 Před 3 měsíci +163

    Me modifying a boxcutter to have the guard of a saber: "Behold! A Sword!"

    • @P3x310
      @P3x310 Před 3 měsíci +29

      -You call that a sword? It doesn't even have a name!
      -It's name is Stanley!

    • @jonsku6662
      @jonsku6662 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@P3x310I don't know what you're referencing but I'd name my one the throngler

    • @jlan7844
      @jlan7844 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@jonsku6662 Stanley is a brand of boxcutter.

    • @P3x310
      @P3x310 Před 3 měsíci +10

      @@jlan7844 yes, and this joke was used in a silly little sketch that a friend showed me once and it had a poor peasant with an oversized box cutter trying to persuade an actual knight to duel him, much to the knight's amusement

    • @williammeek4078
      @williammeek4078 Před 3 měsíci +3

      You actually got the the heart of how i define sword vs a dagger.
      A dagger is a utility blade good at a lot of different things.
      A sword is a blade specialized for combat.

  • @gaelangaudette9576
    @gaelangaudette9576 Před 3 měsíci +35

    I didn't forget to do all the stuff. Thanks for the reminder.

    • @galaxya40s95
      @galaxya40s95 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I never forget to do the stuff.
      But the reminder style got a LOL out of me, so well done, thanks and cheers. ❤

  • @Ortorin
    @Ortorin Před 3 měsíci +50

    Dude... I'm loving your newest vids. I think it's great you just keep up with discussing everything related to swords and medieval martial arts as it interests you and others. We are just curious people that want to learn something cool or obscure, think about new ideas or old ones in different ways, and hopefully be entertained along the way.
    Trust yourself to be good at what you are doing... because you are. Show us your interests, show us a mirror to our own curiosity. You are good at what you are doing, and you know a lot and are curious for more. It's all wonderfully entertaining.
    My main bit of advice or whatever: think of you channel as having different shows and make formats that fit your channel. There should be the history show, the sword show, the battles show, the Hema show, the medieval martial arts show... Split your interests and their parts into "shows" and then cut or bolster the shows that do better.
    I think breaking things down like that could really help organize your thoughts and get away of considering EVERYTHING failed.

    • @grimgorkeisenpelz9392
      @grimgorkeisenpelz9392 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I totally agree. I watch every video of yours because you are good at what you do.
      The themes are interesting. The science is solid. Your sense of humor is top-notch. The editing is great. Overall, for me, all your videos have a lot of value!

  • @spacepiratecaptainrush1237
    @spacepiratecaptainrush1237 Před 3 měsíci +51

    something I've always liked and hope never changes is that you never seemed to play into the rage game that youtube tends to promote (because it doesn't see any differance in what kind of engagement people get) for as long as I've followed you've been reasinable, well spoken and nuanced in your descussions of swords and how they are used.

  • @darkner2390
    @darkner2390 Před 3 měsíci +99

    Just like with polearms, daggers and swords are arbitrary names for sharp and/or pointy pieces of metal, attached to a hilt.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan Před 3 měsíci

      nothing arbitrary about it if you are in the know, its hollywood and the general clueless public who devalue originally well defined terms.

    • @xMingan
      @xMingan Před 3 měsíci

      I've never seen a polearm with a hilt, but I see your point

  • @ellorybockting
    @ellorybockting Před 3 měsíci +17

    I think you had a moment some time back that you struggled with something.
    But lately the videos are bouncing back with that skallagrim charm and entertaining editing that brought me in from the beginning.
    Have fun making these!
    We can tell.
    If I could see you make any video that I'd be interested in it would anything you think is fun, catches your real interest and enjoy making.

    • @Skallagrim
      @Skallagrim  Před 3 měsíci +5

      I wish it worked like that, but there have been so many videos about something I found fun and interesting that I made with a lot of enthusiasm but that totally underperformed and were left in the dust by the algorithm. I appreciate the sentiment though.

    • @Efreeti
      @Efreeti Před 3 měsíci +4

      Gotta second this fellow's comment and say you're on a roll lately with really good content.

  • @dantherpghero2885
    @dantherpghero2885 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Tod's Workshop built a sword sized dirk (swirk) for his video on this same topic. Highly recommend.

  • @Loki_Firegod
    @Loki_Firegod Před 3 měsíci +3

    I think the intended use is propably a better criterium. If it's meant for fighting (duelling, battle), it's propably a sword (Messer and Kriegsmesser would then fall into the sword category too). If it's utilitarian, it's a knife. If it's a personal defense and/or murder weapon (propably mainly for stabbing too) it's a dagger.
    That also makes it clear why the early medieval Seax is usually categorized both as a sword and a knife (although the hilt construction - in most cases, not all - is like a sword): the longer versions especially could be used in battle, but they were also quite handy as an everyday tool, even for chopping wood.
    We should also remember that many of these categorizations are a modern invention. "Back in the day", people had rather different views on at least some of these categories - and some words switched in meaning, too. In some nothern languages, the word "sax" (both old and modern German for "Seax", sometimes used for all manners of swords and knives) now means "scissors".
    EDIT: Spelling.

  • @andreasmuller4666
    @andreasmuller4666 Před 3 měsíci +8

    The more joking nature of your newer intros is fun to watch. That thumb joke was a good one. Keep it to about that level and amount, it´s really nice and gives your otherwise well informed vidoes a bit of lightheartednes and leavity.

  • @user-ve3rf8eh6b
    @user-ve3rf8eh6b Před 3 měsíci +7

    One of the things I miss seeing in your videos are the outtakes and various "silly-fun" incidents/interactions at the end of the video.
    I know it might not be a big/important/universally interesting thing, but I liked seeing those every now and again. Even if they are a reminder that "yes, videos are not made in a single cut".

    • @a_wild_Kirillian
      @a_wild_Kirillian Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah, I really crave more silly Skal shenanigans and miss those outtakes

  • @shkotayd9749
    @shkotayd9749 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think the algorithm is designed to move people around to different topics and creators.
    I often go from seeing long term subscriptions like yours to folks I have never seen before with 98 views, sports I have no interest in, and more, then eventually seeing my main interests again.
    We need to hit our “subscriptions” pages more, but YT makes it so easy to skip over those.

  • @robertusaugustus2003
    @robertusaugustus2003 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I legitimately jumped when your thumb went flying holy crap

  • @mrperson3885
    @mrperson3885 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I watch your videos very often and never have been turned away from any creative choices!

  • @BVasquezp
    @BVasquezp Před 3 měsíci +41

    My rule of limb:
    - Forearm length: Dagger
    - Whole arm length: Short sword
    - Whole leg length: Arming sword
    - Floor to waist length: Bastard sword
    - Floor to chest length: Two hander
    - Taller than the user: Great sword

    • @levymawakani1257
      @levymawakani1257 Před 3 měsíci +2

      What about dwarves ?

    • @magistermagus1211
      @magistermagus1211 Před 3 měsíci

      same way. its just that a longsword for a human is a greatsword for a dwarf.@@levymawakani1257

    • @skilletborne
      @skilletborne Před 3 měsíci +3

      I see where you're coming from, but I'd suggest reading up on all those terms
      Some of them aren't academic terms at all, most don't relate to overall weapon length, and those that do are pretty far from the actual sizes.
      For example, greatswords are mentioned in spanish, italian and german treatise as reaching the wielders chin rather than taller than themselves, and bastard swords are well accepted to be those with handles designed for both single and two handed use.

    • @raydrexler5868
      @raydrexler5868 Před 3 měsíci

      I’m 6’7”. Taller than the user: ridiculous

    • @BVasquezp
      @BVasquezp Před 3 měsíci

      @@skilletborne Just a personal opinion, I have done little to no research on it.

  • @foxymoronvideos3270
    @foxymoronvideos3270 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I've often thought about how to differentiate between knife/dagger and sword. So far I've only come up with one *possibility* that I'd like to float here: The ease of use in an ice-pick grip. Oddly specific, you might think, but in most knife/dagger designs the weapon can be used very effectively and efficiently in an ice-pick grip. Even more strongly curved daggers work well in that grip provided they have a sufficiently short blade. So then, theoretically, if a blade is not especially easy to use with the ice-pick grip, it becomes clissified as a sword.
    That's my thinking, at least. I don't expect anyone to agree with that, it's just something that came to mind when thinking about how swords and knives/daggers can be used. I mean it's pretty rare you'll ever see someone holding a Rapier or something like that in an ice-pick grip except in maybe anime or budget movies. At some point the blade design becomes too sub-optimal for that grip, and need to be used in hammer or handshake grip instead. Anyway, that's just my "two cents" that I wanted to float across.

  • @necroseus
    @necroseus Před 3 měsíci +2

    I have no idea what I'm talking about, but this is the thought that came to my mind:
    I would say that daggers and swords generally have different use cases. This applies especially when a dagger has a specialized blade that is unique from swords, and less so for knives which can be scaled up into swords.
    *What could classify is a sword from a knife is how its structure influences its use.*
    Knives are one handed and can be used to stab, and/or slash in close quarters. Before and during wrestling it is still used in roughly the same way.
    Swords are one or two handed weapons that can be used to slash and/or stab in mid to close quarters. Before wrestling and during wresting its efficacy and usage changes.
    *The easiest cases to eliminate:*
    - Any blade that supports two handed use is a sword, no matter blade length.
    - Any bladed weapon that has a blade design that is not seen in a sword form is a knife.
    Now we are on to the harder cases.
    Some knives and swords have identical (or highly similar) designs to one another.
    Parrying daggers to Smallswords and Rapiers. Messers and Sæxes to... bigger ones, lol. Etc.
    So, in these cases length is an unreliable metric.
    *How the usage concept addresses these:*
    - Any blade that that can be used effectively with little change to technique while wrestling is a knife
    - Any blade that is stabbing oriented that can be used in icepick grip reliably is a knife
    Am I on to something here or am I a goober? Please let me know of you can think of any exceptions to these rules :)!

  • @Dragowolf_Rising
    @Dragowolf_Rising Před 3 měsíci +5

    "It depends" and "context" are two things I'd love to hear in the same video if you take my meaning.
    That aside, I'm thoroughly enjoying the little bits of madness you put into your videos and your editing is looking great. Not so long ago, I was in a discussion about what is or isn't a dagger and somebody was saying a main gauche was a sword. I ultimately boiled it down to "intended use is the main criteria" with length and mass being strong weights toward one end of the scale or the other.

    • @angeljamais8541
      @angeljamais8541 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Second that!!!! Everything depends on context, historically ;)

    • @galaxya40s95
      @galaxya40s95 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah, do some sort of colab.
      I know they are hard to do.
      But they also help to explore the topic more so ....
      Live stream where you discuss a topic?
      Maybe one of those silly ones where you look at and judge some abominations?

  • @Jay-ql4gp
    @Jay-ql4gp Před 3 měsíci +17

    I've always loved the handles on the Swiss one.

  • @iDEATH
    @iDEATH Před 3 měsíci +1

    The end bit reminded me of something from Kurt Vonnegut's Breakfast of Champions: "...understand that there is no order in the world around us, that we must adapt ourselves to the requirements of chaos instead."
    That version loses the context (look it up), but it turns it into a succinctly Stoic bit of advice for general life.

  • @ub-4630
    @ub-4630 Před 3 měsíci +9

    You make good videos, Skally. I know that's not helpful but all I can say is, keep doing what you're doing and take it easy. Don't be too hard on yourself.
    We'll keep an eye out for some areas for constructive criticism.

  • @MilesLee-Rogers
    @MilesLee-Rogers Před 3 měsíci +4

    Ive been watching your content for so long. You and your videos have been a part of my life since I believe before I was even a teenager. Now I am an adult with a job that kinda sucks and doing all the BS adults have to do and still your content is top notch. You are a fantastic individual Skallagrim. Thank you so much for the literal decade of entertainment.

  • @TeeIeh
    @TeeIeh Před 3 měsíci

    I rewatched the beginning of this video several times where you quite deftly transitioned between weapons. I've been watching your content on and off for a decade or more now, and the quality has honestly never been better. I know you're working hard, and it shows. A lot of us are struggling in this wild era, but I promise that I will support you on patreon when I'm in a better spot. You've earned it. So much of your advice has translated into real life purchases for me. Thanks, Skal. Love ya, man. Keep up the good work.

  • @SKy_the_Thunder
    @SKy_the_Thunder Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like what The Dark Eye roleplaying system did for those gray areas. It has quite a number of different weapon skills that determine how well you fight with a certain type of weapon - but most weapons can be used with two or more skills. A particularly large knife will allow you to wield it either like a knife/dagger or like a one-handed sword. Same for a very short sword. Or halberds with either spear or polearm - short specimens may allow you to use the skill for two-handed axes as well...
    And you can always attempt using an adjacent skill at a small penalty, like how you typically default to longsword techniques for any two-handed sword types you're unfamiliar with.

  • @NewTroll
    @NewTroll Před 3 měsíci +1

    Educational content is always #1. How weapons are used, where they come from, fantasy misconceptions, that sort of thing. That was the height of the channel for me. The cutting tests were nice, but only when they were informative and not just reviews. This video was like a breath of fresh air (especially since you added some edits and seem more enthusiastic).

  • @Efreeti
    @Efreeti Před 3 měsíci +1

    This whole question gives me a lot of "Large boulder the size of a small boulder" vibes. I just think there's overlaps, and that's fine.

  • @skipmage
    @skipmage Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think you need to give yourself a break. Look how much better your videos are now than when you first started.
    What has always attracted us is your sincerity, passion and humility. Stay blessed Skall

  • @yowza234
    @yowza234 Před 3 měsíci +1

    ngl that thumb bit was clearly fake but was so effective at eliciting a response that even i whinged a little inside lol

  • @danieltaylor5231
    @danieltaylor5231 Před 3 měsíci

    I really like how the lighting gives you an Excalibur style green effect on the blades at times.

  • @italuxx2370
    @italuxx2370 Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve been watching you for at least 10 yrs, and this is your best video so far.
    Feels very sincere and loved the “It Depends” segment
    Keep it up

  • @darthblade2016
    @darthblade2016 Před 3 měsíci

    I love the content u put out for us @skallagrim ! The editing has been spot on lately and I always enjoy ur sense of realism and humor. There are times when my life gets crazy and I can't consume every video u make, but every time I come back, ur videos make me smile and I get an different perspective on things. Thanks for being awesome and I will continue trying to watch more regularly.

  • @arthasmenethil8871
    @arthasmenethil8871 Před 2 měsíci

    You're doing a great Job Skall, so glad to still see you after all these years as you are the one you got me into the hobby.

  • @joshkappers5530
    @joshkappers5530 Před 3 měsíci

    I really appreciate it that when you say "it depends" you give further context that allows us to make our own opinions on where we might draw the line. A lot of the times when I look up questions like this, especially on like quora for example, the "experts" just say it depends, and they leave you with absolutely nothing to hang your hat on; so you're no better off than if you didn't ask the question.

  • @user-re1hy6if7d
    @user-re1hy6if7d Před 3 měsíci

    I enjoy your channel, especially your sense of humor. Deadly weapons can lead to strictly serious lectures. You make things fun and interesting and I learn from that. Carry on!

  • @PoweredbyApathy
    @PoweredbyApathy Před 3 měsíci +1

    Keep doing what you think is fun Skall , it shows through when your enjoying yourself and getting your geek on .

  • @reaperwithnoname
    @reaperwithnoname Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great editing on this one. Love the little musical bit at the end. Reminds me of that glorious short you did that track.

  • @gills5842
    @gills5842 Před 3 měsíci

    I really love your videos lately! The editing is one thing, as well as the pacing. Keep it up brother

  • @mx.notyourbusiness8693
    @mx.notyourbusiness8693 Před měsícem

    I bursted out laughing when Skallagrim cut off their thumb, what the heck 😆 Love those small gags

  • @ryancastner6200
    @ryancastner6200 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Long time subscriber, but fell off regularly watching vids. Today was the first time a video of yours popped up on the top of my feed in a long time. Enjoyed it thanks

  • @IamZeus1100
    @IamZeus1100 Před 3 měsíci

    That little stabbing montage at the end for a few seconds to the music was hilarious

  • @nielr6922
    @nielr6922 Před 3 měsíci

    I really appreciate your videos! Hopefully this CZcams situation will improve because your videos have always been insightful, entertaining even the simple ones, where you just talk about stuff.

  • @MisterCynic18
    @MisterCynic18 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Skalllagrim: I T D E P E N D S...
    Matt Easton: ...O N T H E C O N T E X T

    • @titanscerw
      @titanscerw Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly this went through my mind :)

  • @companioneevee4454
    @companioneevee4454 Před 3 měsíci

    Started watching you recently when my husband introduced me to your videos. The content is really interesting and I've really enjoyed watching!

  • @samuelferrell9257
    @samuelferrell9257 Před 3 měsíci +1

    "That's not a knife, this is a knife."
    "No, actually it's a sword!"

    • @arthilas_
      @arthilas_ Před 2 měsíci

      "...but THIS is a knife!" *proceeds to pull out an even bigger Kriegsmesser.*

  • @richarddaugherty8583
    @richarddaugherty8583 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Loved it! "Reality doesn't conform to your preconceived notions!" That is a bit of actual wisdom!

  • @mrpolskija
    @mrpolskija Před 3 měsíci +1

    I like your content. I think you've been nailing it lately more times than not.

  • @Rodclutcher
    @Rodclutcher Před 3 měsíci

    You’re doing a great job Skall. Love your Edits!!

  • @56sketch
    @56sketch Před 3 měsíci +2

    I usually go by intended use and what techniques work with it. Generally speaking you can use montante techniques with a longsword but it's not designed for them and are less practical and the same can be said in reverse.
    P.S I really like the editing youve been doing recently!

  • @CreepyMF
    @CreepyMF Před 3 měsíci

    Been awhile since a sword review, maybe its just me that forgot about recent ones. I do appreciate all the content that comes from this amazing channel. I actually have no idea how to improve this channel just that you keep it coming and maybe something will click and the algorithm will promote the hell out of this channel. Looking forward to the next one as always.

  • @crazyzorimonkey1
    @crazyzorimonkey1 Před 3 měsíci

    Reminds me of that scene from Castlevania where two characters are about to begin dueling and one essentially says something like, "My long knife against your short sword."
    I chuckled when I first heard it. "Let me point out that our blade lengths are in the same ballpark before we begin!"

  • @LarryGarfieldCrell
    @LarryGarfieldCrell Před 3 měsíci +2

    IIRC, Metatron did a similar video a whole back and landed in the forearm length heuristic. Reasonable, even if there are edge cases.

  • @forrestcavin1802
    @forrestcavin1802 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Always good to see a new video from ya!!!

  • @AlbertaGeek
    @AlbertaGeek Před 3 měsíci +1

    That's a lot of stuff I never thought of before - thanks!

  • @VaguelySynthetic
    @VaguelySynthetic Před 3 měsíci +7

    9 seconds ago? Hell yeah. Lookin forward to it, Skal

  • @namelessbeast4868
    @namelessbeast4868 Před 3 měsíci

    I really enjoy your videos. They are informative and easy to understand. It's such a shame that you aren't getting the view numbers you deserve, man.

  • @CMBlessing81
    @CMBlessing81 Před 3 měsíci

    This is a question that always fascinated me. Thank you for discussing it

  • @robbytru8710
    @robbytru8710 Před 3 měsíci

    “Parrying sword” needs to be a thing. Would like to see some concept drawings.

  • @aaronsmith4940
    @aaronsmith4940 Před 3 měsíci

    You are getting better mate, keeping the comedy in it is great, facts and laughs are a good combo

  • @osirisatot19
    @osirisatot19 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I had this argument on a stream for Mortal Kombat 1. The character Ashrah has a Kris which is usually considered a dagger, but I argue its a sword because of the extreme length of hers and the way she fights with it is how you would use a sword.

  • @Joshuazx
    @Joshuazx Před 3 měsíci +1

    A knife has a handle that fits in the hand and a blade that fits in the opponent without sticking out the back.

  • @michaelcooksey4695
    @michaelcooksey4695 Před 3 měsíci

    Need more of these videos, feels like it's been awhile since you posted a genuine mixture of facts and unhinged entertainment lol

  • @cosmiclive4437
    @cosmiclive4437 Před 3 měsíci +3

    A thought crossed my mind that looking what the balancing lends itself to could be an indicator. Swords, even rapiers will lend themself much more to chopping into something compared to a dagger, which will be more nimble and allow better point control.

    • @thomasfplm
      @thomasfplm Před 3 měsíci +1

      You'd have a hard time chopping with an estoc.
      And I think that there are swords that are more nimble than a heavy kukri.

  • @weswolever7477
    @weswolever7477 Před 3 měsíci

    I had a tai chi instructor say once that to be a teacher, all you had to do was answer all questions regarding a technique was “yes and no” and “more or less”. Sounds like the discussion on length of pointy things

  • @SuperOtter13
    @SuperOtter13 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent points in this presentation. Thanks again Skal

  • @zacktipate9343
    @zacktipate9343 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Really difficult to grow a channel without a team of editors. Praise to Skall for also staying consistent with his content.

  • @johnfisher7757
    @johnfisher7757 Před 2 měsíci

    Very interesting video, I've often thought about this topic. Thank you Skall 😊

  • @michaelking8483
    @michaelking8483 Před 3 měsíci

    We’re always here for you Skall, I’d love to see unboxing videos and sword reviews,again, and maybe perhaps content akin to 2013-2015 you

  • @mrvandal131
    @mrvandal131 Před 3 měsíci

    Loved this video. Edits made it more engaging, and they weren't over the top or abnoxious

  • @stonedwizard0420
    @stonedwizard0420 Před 3 měsíci

    This strangely reminds me of the coastline paradox, and how the more accurately you try to measure the exact distance of any given coastline, the closer to infinity the resulting number is.

  • @trikepilot101
    @trikepilot101 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Some more blur for the lines: a tulwar has disks that force a hammer grip, an estoc has a triangular blade and Wilkinson patent tang is the full width of the grip. So basically call anything whatever you want. Nice view-thing, Skal.

  • @alexandercross9081
    @alexandercross9081 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Less than 3 thumb lengths, dagger, more than 3 swords, lengths as determined based on weapons intended weilder, ex. Sting is a dagger because it was made for an elf, even though for Bilbo and Frodo, it was more of a short sword length.

  • @DH-xw6jp
    @DH-xw6jp Před 3 měsíci

    I've always considered "from elbow to closed fist" the separation between knife/dagger and sword.

  • @angeljamais8541
    @angeljamais8541 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you, Skall!!! Brilliant video, thoroughly enjoyed

  • @rossewing8006
    @rossewing8006 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Skall, I’ve been watching your content for a few years now and think what you do is great. Your channel is a perfect blend of historical learning practical fun and in general an all round good channel. Thank you for all the work you put in for us lot to enjoy. I would subscribe to your patreon but regrettably my financial situation won’t allow me at the moment. Thanks again 👍

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel Před 3 měsíci

    The definition is akshully quite simple, and it all comes down to usage: a sword is a bladed weapon used as a sword, whereas a dagger (or knife) is used as a dagger. Happy to help clear that up!

  • @QuantumRangerPower
    @QuantumRangerPower Před 3 měsíci

    This was a good one, quick and informative.

  • @GonzoTehGreat
    @GonzoTehGreat Před 2 měsíci

    Challenge accepted!
    To me, REACH is the relevant property of a sword, (instead of length) so a dagger/knife _becomes_ a sword when:
    (1) You can repeatedly and reliably strike your opponent OUTSIDE of grapple/clinch range.
    (2) Reverse grip is disadvantageous (due to losing reach, less power via leverage, inferior balance etc.)
    Some other possible ways to distinguish a sword (from a dagger/knife):
    - You can make effective cuts and thrusts using a handshake (vs a dagger) grip
    - You can use it effectively with a shield

  • @Leo-iq9or
    @Leo-iq9or Před 3 měsíci +1

    i came across this same definition problem when i wanted to make my own LARPing system,
    having ti define catagories of weapons precisely,
    but the only logical difference i could think of is...
    Kives/Daggers:
    while able to stab and slash like a sword,
    swords also have enough length, weight or heft to also chop into a body like target,
    and i mean chop not slice,
    just a flat in to blade edge straight strike as most knives/daggers seem poor at this type of attack.
    but after that i never gave it too much more thought.

  • @RockingRavine
    @RockingRavine Před 3 měsíci

    The discussion is overall rather simple: it depends. However, having visuals of examples (both in pictures and IRL) helps a lot with the perspective. That's cool.

  • @svesnimajmun2731
    @svesnimajmun2731 Před 3 měsíci

    I think function should be the metric.
    A dagger is a handy, stabby side arm that is not too long to be used in an ice pick grip. This does risk excluding many a parrying dagger, but they are a special kind of thier own anyways.
    The reason why I included the icepick grip as important is because that is the way to hold a dagger when grappling. Yes, a standard grip is perfectly usable, but there isna reason why a lot of knife attacks are done with that grip, it is a very instictive and powerfull way to stab and is more space efficient, which is important when being in an unfriendly, hostile even, hug.

  • @Nightkrowler
    @Nightkrowler Před 3 měsíci

    2:30 - a good example is in "The Hobbit" (Book) where Bilbo picks up "Sting" for the first time and it sais something like "it was merely a pocket knife to a troll but for a Hobbit it could serve as a sword"

  • @williamford8566
    @williamford8566 Před 3 měsíci

    Love your videos Skal. You present things in an enjoyable way with a common sense approach. WRT the current topic, I believe another commentor stated it, but I reiterate, I think functionally may be a better way to distinguish between knife/dagger and sword. There will still be overlap though.

  • @Oruta563
    @Oruta563 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I agree, it's more of the feeling when you wield it

  • @KoaStudio
    @KoaStudio Před 3 měsíci +3

    that thumb slice gag was hilarious. legit caught me off guard haha

  • @chenoaholdstock3507
    @chenoaholdstock3507 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'd define the difference as "when the blade is too long to comfortably prepare food/vegetables"
    Not because all knives are kitchen knives, but because if it's too long to cut a potato (like a normal person, not a freaking target, and you know it) it's no longer a "small" knife

  • @blkhwk1321
    @blkhwk1321 Před 3 měsíci

    As far as recommendations, it's a bit hard. I like all the stuff you do. Maybe a few more just standard weapon reviews. That's how I found you, and ive been here ever since. Thanks for all the years of fun btw ❤ it's like "come for the reviews, stay for the you"

  • @tomothybahamothy
    @tomothybahamothy Před 3 měsíci

    Love you Skall, I'm about to buy my first sword and you are definitely a large part of the reason why

  • @aaronamour6101
    @aaronamour6101 Před 3 měsíci

    Very interesting video. Thank you, Skall.

  • @DaxterL
    @DaxterL Před 3 měsíci

    "Is this is a sword or a knife?"
    "I identify it as sabre fluid"

  • @Bigsolrac
    @Bigsolrac Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would say what defines it is the way it handles, if you can do more of sweeping arcing attacks is a sword, if not is a knife regardless of naming conventions, so a messer is a sword not a knife in my interpretation.

  • @josku5
    @josku5 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would say the way the weapon is used could be a categorizing factor. When you think about how a sword is used, a dagger most often than not will not be wielded as such. Maybe someone could try to slash with a dagger/only stab with a sword (in icepick grip no less) but that’s kinda redundant imo.

  • @MrTwrule
    @MrTwrule Před 3 měsíci +1

    The best I can think of is understanding them relative to how the individual tends to wield them. If something is more comfortable relative to my body to wield 'in the ways one wields a dagger/knife', it's that for me. The same with a sword.
    In other words, while the only difference linguistically between sword and dagger is that a dagger specifically has a 'short' blade, the blade only becomes significantly 'short' or 'long' for the wielder when their style of wielding it would change on account of the length. That's going to be highly relative to the body of the wielder, and that's fine; we don't need an 'objective' measure.

  • @a.szabados9720
    @a.szabados9720 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for this video, good to know I'm not the only one who thinks that people tend to overclassify, or want to define things too precisely, when in reality not everything is crystal clear, especially in history.

  • @EnraiChannel
    @EnraiChannel Před 3 měsíci +1

    Your videos have been great as always. I especially like rants and other videos like this one, but I do miss the videos where you took fantasy weapons and make them "realistic". Well, I guess there were only few of those, but I really enjoyed them.